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Dave Fields  
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 More options May 19 1992, 9:46 am
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: d...@teradata.com (Dave Fields)
Date: 19 May 92 19:46:42 GMT
Local: Tues, May 19 1992 3:46 pm
Subject: CMLL Lucha Libre Results
Results from CMLL card broadcast from Arena Coliseo, Mexico City, D.F.
over Galavision on Sunday, May 17, 1992.

Popularity Ratings: No ratings this week.

News: Luis Barajas, "El Faraon," is back. Veteran CMLL watchers will
remember Faraon's brilliant bloodfest with Pirata Morgan about a
year-and-a-half ago. I've not seen him since, and assumed he had
retired. Well, he's back... and a welcome addition to the CMLL talent
roster.

Kendo Nagasaki is also back, probably scouting talent for SWS. It was
sort of amusing to watch him work with El Ultimo Dragon, considering
that Nagasaki's last identity in a major US federation was The Dragon
Master in WCW. People may remember that Nagasaki was responsible for
bringing Keiji Muto to the USA for the first time (as Super Black
Ninja). If Hitoshi Oi is reading this, maybe he can tell us why
Nagasaki is back in Mexico. Hitoshi, are you out there?

First Match: Guerrero de la Muerte (masked - Mexico), Supremo I (masked
- Mexico), and Supremo II (masked - Mexico) (heels) vs. El Gran Apache
(Mexico), America (masked - Mexico), and Solar II (masked - Mexico);
Roberto Rangel and Pepe Casas (referees); faces win 2/3 falls.

Translations: Guerrero de la Muerte=Death Warrior.

This was the first time I've ever seen El Gran Apache (The Great
Apache), and I was very impressed by his acrobatics. He can't be more
than about 5'2" or so, but he's a real worker.

First Fall: Apache walks the top rope unassisted, then jumps to the
floor - just an example of this guy's balancing act! Later, he pins
Supremo II.

Second Fall: Supremo II pins Solar II after a suplex.

Third Fall: Solar II pins Supremo I with a Frankensteiner. This fall
also featured several wild planchas from Apache and America. America's
leap was aided by Solar II, who boosted him WAY over the top rope in
his suicide plancha.

Second Match:

La Tigresa (masked - Mexico), La Diabolica (masked - Mexico), and
Martha Villalobos (Mexico) (heels) vs. Xochitl Hamada (Mexico), Cynthia
Moreno (Mexico), and Lady Apache (Mexico) (faces); Pepe Casas and
Rafael Almaya (referees); faces win 2/3 falls.

First Fall: Moreno pins Villalobos with the assistance of Hamada and
Lady Apache. Cynthia had begun to execute a sunset flip on the gigantic
Martha, but as the fat one was about to sit down on her, Hamada and
Apache hit her with a double clothesline, thus completing the flip.

Second Fall: Martha pins all 3 tecnicas with a 747 from the second
rope.

Third Fall: Apache pins Villalobos with a bridge after Martha was
simultaneously drop kicked from the top rope by Moreno and Apache.

Third Match:

El Gran Markus, Jr. (masked - Mexico), El Angel Blanco, Jr. (masked -
Mexico), and El Felino (masked - Mexico) (heels) vs. Ringo Mendoza
(Mexico), El Faraon (Mexico), and Ciclon Ramirez (masked - Mexico);
Roberto Rangel and Pepe Casas (referees); faces win 2/3 falls.

Translation: El Faraon=The Pharaoh (Barajas doesn't do an Egyptian
gimmick - I have NO idea why he's called Faraon).

This is the first time I've seen Gran Markus for many a moon - at least
8 months. Has he been in the UWA?

First Fall: Mendoza pins Angel Blanco.

Second Fall: Angel Blanco pins Mendoza with a 747 from the top rope.

Third Fall: Ramirez nails Felino right in the center of the ring with a
great Frankensteiner. It was only in this fall that Faraon began to
unwind a little bit. Look for some great action from this guy in coming
weeks.

After the match, Felino screams about wanting the title (Mexican
welterweight) and mask of Ciclon Ramirez. Ramirez says first he'll
wrestle a mask vs. mask match, then they'll see about the title shot.

Fourth Match:

La Fiera (Mexico), Kendo Nagasaki (Japan), and Blue Panther (masked -
Mexico) (heels) vs. Apolo Dantes (Mexico), Ultimo Dragon (masked -
Japan), and Atlantis (masked - Mexico); Roberto Rangel and Rafael
Almaya (referees); faces win 2/3 falls.

Nagasaki looks positively huge next to these guys. Herb says Asai is
supposed to weigh about 200 lbs., but I'd be surprised if he weighs 180
lbs.

First Fall: Dantes pins Blue Panther with a bridge.

Second Fall: Kendo Nagasaki pins Atlantis.

Third Fall: Blue Panther slugs Atlantis right in the balls directly in
front of Roberto Rangel - DQ!

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Dominic Macika  
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 More options May 19 1992, 9:23 pm
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From: bm...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dominic Macika)
Date: 20 May 92 08:31:15 GMT
Local: Wed, May 20 1992 4:31 am
Subject: Re: CMLL Lucha Libre Results

In a previous article, d...@teradata.com (Dave Fields) says:

>Kendo Nagasaki is also back, probably scouting talent for SWS. It was
>sort of amusing to watch him work with El Ultimo Dragon, considering
>that Nagasaki's last identity in a major US federation was The Dragon
>Master in WCW. People may remember that Nagasaki was responsible for
>bringing Keiji Muto to the USA for the first time (as Super Black
>Ninja). If Hitoshi Oi is reading this, maybe he can tell us why
>Nagasaki is back in Mexico. Hitoshi, are you out there?

Ummm, someone help me here.  I thought Muto originally worked in the states
as the White Ninja in Florida ~1985.  Did he work as SBN before this? Or
am I wrong?  Also, wasn't Muto the Super Ninja with Larry Zybysko in AWA?

BTW: Who was Mr. Go who worked with Zybysko prior to Super Ninja?  Am I
correct in my guess that Mr. Go was the same person that worked as Super
Ninja in Bill Watts' UWF?
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Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan  
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 More options May 20 1992, 1:05 pm
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From: fs...@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan)
Date: 21 May 92 00:58:56 GMT
Local: Wed, May 20 1992 8:58 pm
Subject: Re: CMLL Lucha Libre Results
In article <1992May20.083115.20...@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, bm...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dominic Macika) writes...

>In a previous article, d...@teradata.com (Dave Fields) says:

>>Kendo Nagasaki is also back, probably scouting talent for SWS. It was
>>sort of amusing to watch him work with El Ultimo Dragon, considering
>>that Nagasaki's last identity in a major US federation was The Dragon
>>Master in WCW. People may remember that Nagasaki was responsible for
>>bringing Keiji Muto to the USA for the first time (as Super Black
>>Ninja). If Hitoshi Oi is reading this, maybe he can tell us why
>>Nagasaki is back in Mexico. Hitoshi, are you out there?

Before I make this comment, I should preface this by saying that in no
way am I attempting to imply that what I'm going to say here is
specifically directed towards Hitoshi Oi.

Okay, got that out of the way.  Based on some recent traffic in
soc.culture.japan, apparently there has been some controversy regarding
*.jp users posting to groups outside of fj.*.  Some isolationism exists,
and it is not improbable to see *.jp users get into trouble with their
supervisors for posting to non-*.fj groups.  So this may explain why we
do not see postings from Japan in here, aside from the obvious problem
with the language barrier.

>Ummm, someone help me here.  I thought Muto originally worked in the states
>as the White Ninja in Florida ~1985.  Did he work as SBN before this? Or
>am I wrong?  Also, wasn't Muto the Super Ninja with Larry Zybysko in AWA?

>BTW: Who was Mr. Go who worked with Zybysko prior to Super Ninja?  Am I
>correct in my guess that Mr. Go was the same person that worked as Super
>Ninja in Bill Watts' UWF?

Keiji Muto was the White Ninja in Florida, and later became Super Black
Ninja, I believe starting in Puerto Rico around 1987.  Larry Zbyszko's
Ninja and Mr. Go were the same person, Ryuma Go, a prelim wrestler for
All Japan.  He may have even been the UWF Ninja, but I really don't
remember anymore.  The UWF Ninja was originally supposed to be Kengo
Kimura, but I guess he didn't agree to it, even though he was in the
U.S. at that time.

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Dominic Macika  
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 More options May 20 1992, 3:06 pm
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From: bm...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dominic Macika)
Date: 21 May 92 02:17:58 GMT
Local: Wed, May 20 1992 10:17 pm
Subject: Super Ninja/Mr. Go (was: Re: CMLL Lucha Libre Results)

In a previous article, fs...@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan) says:

Odd, I remember Super Ninja being bigger than Mr. Go.  The UWF Ninja
was wrestling at the same time as the AWA Ninja, so I doubt they were
the same.  I think the fact that Mr. Go disappeared and soon thereafter
the UWF Ninja appeared helped feed my theory that they were indeed the same.
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