Indoor Racing
barrac...@my-dejanews.com
heard mention of it but I don't know what it is about. Does it actually take
place in a stadium? How popular is it? I've never seen coverage of such an
event in "Jet Sports" and they usually have a feature or two about
international racing in every issue. Any thoughts on this?
I have also heard of a similar tour in Japan.
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finland
indoor stadium same place where they have
Supercrosses.
barrac...@my-dejanews.com kirjoitti viestissä
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Rexven
>Does anyone have any information about an indoor racing tour in Europe. I've
>heard mention of it but I don't know what it is about. Does it actually take
>place in a stadium? How popular is it? I've never seen coverage of such an
>event in "Jet Sports" and they usually have a feature or two about
>international racing in every issue. Any thoughts on this?
Sounds like what they used to do with the old Roman era. They would
flood the unit and have mock naval battles in the arena. It's hard to
imagine with what little tech they had back then that they were able
to design, pump, filter, drain, and maintain entire water supplies and
then have it ready for land/ground combat and such within a few days.
Rather like filling up a football stadium with dirt for supercross but
on a much deeper level.
</end history 101> :)
barrac...@my-dejanews.com
the USA.
In article <BxQL2.275$lm3...@read2.inet.fi>,
"finland" <jari....@pp.inet.fi> wrote:
> They have one at Bercys in France 3rd of April. It is invitation race. It is
> indoor stadium same place where they have
> Supercrosses.
>
> barrac...@my-dejanews.com kirjoitti viestissä
> <7dohlj$kp6$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> >Does anyone have any information about an indoor racing tour in Europe. I've
> >heard mention of it but I don't know what it is about. Does it actually take
> >place in a stadium? How popular is it? I've never seen coverage of such an
> >event in "Jet Sports" and they usually have a feature or two about
> >international racing in every issue. Any thoughts on this?
> >
Tony Ernst
good, back in 1990, the event was already held there with Jacobs, Fishetti, and
even Rius... Every year they even organize a windsurf event in Bercy with giant
air blower...
In the past Stadium events were held in Paris (Bercy), Lyon (France),and
Barcelona in Spain but no tour.
Bercy this year will be a "one-shot". They announce Mac, Fish, Rius, Paturel,
and many other US riders.
I'll keep you informed about the results.
Rexven wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Mar 1999 18:44:05 GMT, barrac...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> >Does anyone have any information about an indoor racing tour in Europe. I've
> >heard mention of it but I don't know what it is about. Does it actually take
> >place in a stadium? How popular is it? I've never seen coverage of such an
> >event in "Jet Sports" and they usually have a feature or two about
> >international racing in every issue. Any thoughts on this?
>
Tomka111
(cet). There is a freestyle show with Rick Roy and stand up and runabout pro
motos. I think they will show it in tv (eurosport). Bye Thomas
barrac...@my-dejanews.com
If any one has pictures of this event after it occurs please post them.
Bbeach737
>pm
>> (cet). There is a freestyle show with Rick Roy and stand up and runabout
>pro
>> motos. I think they will show it in tv (eurosport). Bye Thomas
>>
>
>If any one has pictures of this event after it occurs please post them.
>
>
I sure hope the I.J.S.B.A and its key officials are in France checking
out this weekends indoor event.
This is exactly the type of promotional event that the I.J.S.B.A
needs to add to the National Tour in order to push pwc enthusiasts/ competitors
into the mainstream marketplace.
Just compare how popular motocross was in america 20yrs ago prior to
"Supercross"? It was among avid moto fans but not very marketable to the
public.
Today in 1999 there is more than one supercross series with more
entries and riders nationwide than it can handle. Lots of television coverage
too!!!!
These european promoters are the best at putting on a show and
bringing in the crowds = $$$$$. (ie; Paris Supercross)
I just wish we could gain some positive knowledge from this Indoor
event...in europe.. and bring it back to our country and make it work for the
U.S.A. market.
Anyone have any comments please feel free to add them. thks.
Bill
Scrnr
>I sure hope the I.J.S.B.A and its key officials are in France checking
>out this weekends indoor event.
It would seem a prudent action, which must surely indicate that they will not
be in attendance. Perhaps they will send the Int'l guy Bjork or D'ork or
B'onery (whatever) and he can tell all how fabulous it is, thereby making it
impossible for the americans to do it. - ask him, he'll tell you.
Tony Ernst
is not so popular as in the US here in Europe. (I saw Sea-Doo ads on TV when I got
in California: I've never see a watercraft brand making advertissment on TV in
Europe....)
At this time there was only stand-up. And every racer that took part to an indoor
can say you how small is the course. It make it very difficult to race. My wife
raced in the Barcelona Indoor and said it was like a lottery.
This time they will bring Runabouts on the line: I'm really curious to see such
boats racing in indoor... I'll keep the ng informed.
I will not go there but I've read it will be broadcasted live on the Eurosport
channel.
>
>
> I sure hope the I.J.S.B.A and its key officials are in France checking
> out this weekends indoor event.
PWCFRAZIER
I agree with the sentiment that more off events like this need to be
incorporated into a venue. An indoor tour would be killer, or moreso having an
8 stop closed course tour and allow racers to get external points from another
event, say indoor or a jump off. It might work kind of like slalom does in
closed course. The national champion would earn the points off the tour and say
points from 2 "alternative events" that way if you did 2 indoor and won 2 you
would have some extra points, but another competitor who did the same in a surf
contest would acheive the same points.
In practical use, this may be a terrible idea, but I think conceptually there
is some good theory in it.
Frazier
Gary Bolton
You can look to the IJSBA again for dropping the ball on indoor events. A few
years ago a promoter from out West tried to start a indoor series and the IJSBA
made it very difficult for him to the extent that he lost so much money that he
gave up the project. The IJSBA seems to be working against us more than anything.
Gary
Bbeach737 wrote:
> >> The indoor race starts this saturday 03. April in Paris/Bercy France at 8
> >pm
> >> (cet). There is a freestyle show with Rick Roy and stand up and runabout
> >pro
> >> motos. I think they will show it in tv (eurosport). Bye Thomas
> >>
> >
> >If any one has pictures of this event after it occurs please post them.
> >
> >
>
barrac...@my-dejanews.com
last year which failed to materialize. I believe the promotor blamed the
IJSBA and lack of OEM support.
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jetski junkies
No it failed because the engineers for the Astrodome didn't like the
thought of water over the electrics in the basement. The small pool was
kinda flimsy. If they had hauled dirt in to reinforce the walls of the
pool, it might have gone off with out a hitch. It needed to be bigger
too.
Perry
Mike Steinmetz
could not put more than two manufactures behind the effort. We did have
a reasonable sum of outside advertising to pay our way but not enough.
Myself and Jon Simpson both lost money on the deal and it did not even
produce a race. It appears that I will never get my money back but that's
racing, I guess. Big Red had promised to abandon the IJSBA and support
our efforts from the Press release Fax that I still have in my drawer but
that
never fully happened either.
Oh well,
Mike Steinmetz
http://www.calweb.com/~h2ocrazy
Tony Ernst <nic...@skynet.be> wrote in article
<370332D0...@skynet.be>...
> The fist Indoor in Bercy was good but the Promoters lost a lot of money.
Jet Sport
> is not so popular as in the US here in Europe. (I saw Sea-Doo ads on TV
when I got
> in California: I've never see a watercraft brand making advertissment on
TV in
> Europe....)
> At this time there was only stand-up. And every racer that took part to
an indoor
> can say you how small is the course. It make it very difficult to race.
My wife
> raced in the Barcelona Indoor and said it was like a lottery.
> This time they will bring Runabouts on the line: I'm really curious to
see such
> boats racing in indoor... I'll keep the ng informed.
> I will not go there but I've read it will be broadcasted live on the
Eurosport
> channel.
>
> >
> >
Mike Steinmetz
Think about the #1 manufacture for sales in the US is... Got it. Sea-Doo
wanted nothing to do with us because they have there own happy place
in the Manufacture run IJSBA.
I have not renewed my membership in the IJSBA since I found out all
the dirt as a result of trying to do this indoor venture.
I was to be the media relations coordinator and as part of that job stream
the audio portion of the races out on the internet. Would have been nice,
but as they say you can't loose money forever and stick with something.
Did the IJSBA Drop the ball on this? ABSOLUTELY. We were going to run
the event under a new and distinct banner of our own design. The APBA
was not much help although theirs was 5 times that of the IJSBA.
Deal me out... I've already written off the $9,000 dollars that I lost.
Mike Steinmetz
barrac...@my-dejanews.com wrote in article
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Mike Steinmetz
Wrong. The engineers had approved the plan to bring in enough dirt to
make a pool the entire size of the Astrodome floor. The pool would have
been
lined with 80 mill plastic that they use in landfills to cover up freshly
graded areas. This system was water proof and would have been made
on site to each location that we traveled to. The neat thing is the
material
was reusable. We could have cut it back into the 10 foot wide strips it
came in and hall it off to the next race.
We completely scrapped the portable pool idea after going to Canada and
watching the indoor boat show they had a few years back in a concrete
tank.
Just thought you'd like to know.
Mike Steinmetz
jetski junkies <Perry211*NOSPAM*@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
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jetski junkies
Then why was there no dirt at the Astrodome site around the pool? Just a
metal fence looking thing.
Perry
jetski junkies
>
> Perry,
>
> You are confusing these folks with the guy from California. Totally different
> concepts on how to build the pool.
>
> Dave
> David B. Thomas (jets...@bellsouth.net)
> Blew-By-You Personal Watercraft Services
> 11605 Hwy 19 Norwood, LA 70761
> (225) 629-5621
OOoooops! I thought it was the same race promoter.. Made us freeze in
the Astrodome parking lot.
Perry
jetski junkies
>
> Perry,
> I believe you are referring to the event that was tried several years ago by
> Dan Sherbondy, it had the metal or aluminum framed perimeter.
>
> Mike Steinmetz was working with a different gentleman just this past year.
> Their production did not get built at the'dome as did Sherbondy's which was
> cancelled at the last second.
>
> Regards,
> John
Yes I was confused...Thought it was the same guy.
Perry
Bill O'Neal
It's ok, All three of them have last names starting with an S :)
Bill O'Neal
WCM
P.S. Sherbondy's nick name was "Sherbondo". When he raced, He ran into
everthing on the racetrack except the announcer !
True story.
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Bill O'Neal
The "pool" at Long Beach in 1995 (another Sherbobdy promotion) was tiny.
But, of all the races that we did, it was the most fun of all.
My wife was so pumped up after the race, she couldn't sleep all night. The
fans were screaming and the girls loved it !
Indoor racing is fun.
Bill O'Neal
WCM
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MTa6963783 wrote in message <19990401232355...@ng61.aol.com>...
> I raced in the pool in toronto and its wild how a fairly big pool gets
small
>while flying around on a SS runabout.Really it should be just a ski
thing.It
>was realy fun although confining. Nic Wallis
David B. Thomas
CT John90
MTa6963783
MTa6963783
invited (experts only) had cabin fever big time!We would of raced in a puddle
if we had to.We didnt get invited back because the boat show promoters thought
we were to agresive for indoors.I had nt even scratched the surface of being
agressive and they thought we were nuts.Oh well. Nic Wallis
SHARK DADDY
barrac...@my-dejanews.com
I am really sorry for you and Jon Simpson. I think you guys had a great
concept that would do wonders for this sport. I hope you take another shot at
it in the near future. I will do whatever I can as an IJSBA member to help
change their thinking. Best of luck. I hope you recoup that $9000 somehow.
In article <01be7ca4$14437ac0$0100a8c0@mainframe>,
"Mike Steinmetz" <h2oc...@calweb.com> wrote:
> Actually the lack of support from the manufactures did us in the worst.
> Think about the #1 manufacture for sales in the US is... Got it. Sea-Doo
> wanted nothing to do with us because they have there own happy place
> in the Manufacture run IJSBA.
>
> I have not renewed my membership in the IJSBA since I found out all
> the dirt as a result of trying to do this indoor venture.
>
> I was to be the media relations coordinator and as part of that job stream
> the audio portion of the races out on the internet. Would have been nice,
> but as they say you can't loose money forever and stick with something.
>
> Did the IJSBA Drop the ball on this? ABSOLUTELY. We were going to run
> the event under a new and distinct banner of our own design. The APBA
> was not much help although theirs was 5 times that of the IJSBA.
>
> Deal me out... I've already written off the $9,000 dollars that I lost.
> Mike Steinmetz
>
> barrac...@my-dejanews.com wrote in article
> <7e0e63$j62$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
Mike Steinmetz
Different group.
Mike
Mike Steinmetz
an active
business just not activated. I am still in communications with John about
the funds
in dispute but that should be resolved as soon as either of us finds Mr.
Simpson.
Thank you for the offers of support in this venture, I am sure that it may
take off
someday, I just don't have a clue as to when.
Mike Steinmetz
barrac...@my-dejanews.com wrote in article
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Mario Westerhuis
seen indoor : It's a great show for the winters !!!
I wish they go on a tour with indoor : races mixed with free-style !
I'm waiting for the summer now : but if there would be shows / race's like this
...... I think it would be a succes during the
winterseason overhere in Holland and the rest of Europe and a treat for the
Jet-Ski fans.
gr. Mario
"Member Dutch P.W.C. Federation ( N.W.S.F.)
Bill O'Neal schreef:
> Nic,
> The "pool" at Long Beach in 1995 (another Sherbobdy promotion) was tiny.
> But, of all the races that we did, it was the most fun of all.
>
> My wife was so pumped up after the race, she couldn't sleep all night. The
> fans were screaming and the girls loved it !
>
> Indoor racing is fun.
>
> Bill O'Neal
> WCM
>
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