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Dave Worley "Racer X"

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Oct 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/5/97
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Todd,

I too spend ALOT of time on lake Lewisville (West lake park in Lake Dallas).

Years ago I used to put in at Stewarts Creek but will never return due to
many near misses from the highly congested and drunken boat traffic
coming in and out of the marina there.

You might try Hidden Cove which is a few miles from there, it is relatively
quiet and out of the main traffic pattern.

Dave Worley "Racer X"

Todd Hammock wrote in message <343953...@ti.com>...
>This is a story about stupidity I want to share with the group, but
>thankfully not mine. If you want to only read about the naive GP1200
>owner, then skip to the bottom. If you want to read about mostly
>traditional boaters doing their best impressions of an idiot, read on.
>Thank God the world does not require human intelligence in order to
>rotate, because if it did, based on what I have been seeing lately, it
>would have finally stopped this weekend.
>


JeffC 1474

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Oct 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/6/97
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All the boaters I've seen in my limited experience seemed to know what they
were doing. The only thing that's bothered me is that when I ride alone and
moor my PWC to get my car, a boater who thought his boat was more important
than me used my lane to launch his boat and I had to wait for him.

Harry Krause

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Oct 6, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/6/97
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Todd Hammock wrote:

> This is a story about stupidity I want to share with the group, but
> thankfully not mine.

> ../ here comes an older couple , late fifties to early sixties,
> with a new style Dodge Ram pick-up and a very expensive and new 6 series
> Ranger bass boat. He got into the boat and she started backing him down
> into the water. I looked up and saw that he had a nice big Merc engine,
> either a 115 or a 175, I did not look that close. The boat proceeds to
> float off the trailer and start drifting toward mine. He starts
> scrambling to get the engine started, and gets it started out of the
> water. He got the engine down and took off out of the No Wake zone
> around the ramp. I thought “what a way to kill the water pump
> impeller. Maybe he will replace it over the winter, but what happened
> next leads me to doubt it. I looked up again to see the older woman on
> the dock with the bass boat speeding toward her. All of the sudden the
> boat comes to an immediate stop about six feet from the dock. Remember,
> the lake is down. I thought he would get out and push the boat off of
> the bottom, and I would go over and help him. I put my screw driver
> down and turn to head over there, when all of the sudden that big Merc
> starts screaming and begging for its life. The water is churning up
> behind the boat dark with mud, and the old man is rocking side to side.
> Finally that big Merc pulls the boat off of the bottom and the old man
> is hauling ass backwards. He kills the engine, raises it up, inspects
> the bottom which is caked with mud so bad you can hardly make out the SS
> prop. What make this stupidity worth writing about is not the fact that
> he lowered that engine, started it up, and went over to pick up the
> older lady at the end of the dock, and then nails the throttle without
> even wiping the mud from the cooling water intakes, but the fact that
> the other end of the 20 foot dock is resting on the mud in plain view.
> I guess a $35k boat does not mean as much to him as my $6k Raider means
> to me. I would not even think about doing that to my boat. I would
> have killed the engine when I felt the bottom, and had it back over to
> the ramp so I could clean the cooling intake before I got mud in my
> motor. I think that the millions of PWC hating fishermen just had one
> defect and join the ranks of the d.f. (as Harry pointed out), stupid,
> idiotic, “jetskiers”, without him even having to acquire a PWC.

Actually, he had just traded in his PWC on that Ranger. Old habits die hard.

> (After changing the jets and going to work at my wife’s store for a
> while, eating, walking the Labs, I arrive back at the ramp at
> approximately 5:00 PM. I back my Raider into the water and get out to
> set the low speed screws again. I looked around and saw about 10 PWC, a
> couple of pleasure boats, one boat tied to the wet end of the dock,
> and a SCARAB type boat idling out to the center of the finger (the
> portion of the lake Between Office Branch and Stewart Creek). I only
> wish that Harry Krause and that Ariosa guy could have been with me. The
> SCARAB type boat goes WOT and the roar of the through the transom
> exhaust was deafening. I could not hear any of the PWC out in the
> finger, hell I could barely hear my engine running right beside me.
> This is no open header jet boat that Harry hammers on, this is one of
> his beloved traditional power boats with through the transom exhaust
> that is louder than all of the boats on the water combined. Then I see
> this 36 inch tired, lift kitted Z71 pick-up backing a triple axle
> trailer down the ramp.

I would have had a talk with the guy and then called the Florida Marine
Patrol and given it his numbers. Loud exhausts are not tolerated in NE
Florida waters. Period. There's no reason for the boat to be loud enough to
be offensive. The guy probably has a small dick.

> Here comes the SCARAB type boat doing about 30 MPH through the No Wake
> zone homing in on that trailer as a laser guided missile. Strike One,
> speeding thorough a No Wake zone -- only d.f. jetskiers do that!

Another former PWC'er, no doubt...

> I look up the ramp to where the twin engine SCARAB parked, and too my
> amazement I see what I believe is this guy pissing right beside his boat,
> right out in the middle of the
> park. Lets see, shorts open, hands on hips, short round tubular thing
> squirting a yellow stream. I am a male, so I can authoritatively say,
> check - pissing. Strike Three, another traditional boater has defected
> from the all knowing, never cause any problems, traditional boater
> crowd to join the ranks of the d.f. stupid, idiotic “jetskiers”. What
> makes this stupidity even more noteworthy is the fact that a
> Port-A-Potti was only 15 feet from him.

When yy gotta go...

>

> For a guy with a short pecker, he sure had big balls to piss in a public
> park where the Police make patrols. I would have gone to the
> Port-A-Potti, and as a last
> resort, gone into the water.

Uh...just how big were they?

> At this point, I would like to ask a question. Is this typical of
> traditional boaters around the country, or did I just have a lucky day?

You were just lucky.

Great reportage, Todd. I enjoyed reading all of it.

Ğrew

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Oct 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/7/97
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Todd Hammock wrote:
(SNIP A GREAT POST)
> Regards,
>
> Todd Hammock

Hmmm...
Reminds me of the time I was waiting in line at the ramp. The line was
probably 6 or 7 vehicles deep.... I was prepped and ready to launch
(most courteous boaters take care of all the "prep" *before* they back
down the ramp, ya know ;) ) Anyway, there was DumbA$$, trying to back
his Wellcraft off the trailer. He had his motor down, and was
revving...trying to back the boat off the trailer while the family was
pulling the bow rope. Ten minutes.... no avail. More revving, more
pulling. They were becoming very embarrassed with the big audience that
had amassed. All of us in line were watching in sheer amazement as they
attempted to get the boat off the trailer.... Even the pickup was
rocking back and forth as the motor revved..... VRRROOOMM...VVROOMMM....
Mud stirring up, wakes blowing all over... VVRROOMMM!!
Finally, anticipating a VERY long day at the ramp, I walked up to the
guy and told him to unhook his stern strap.

-Drew

Harry Krause

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Oct 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/7/97
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Đrew wrote:

My favorite took place at the Mayport boat ramp near the mouth of the St.
John's River in N. Jacksonville.

Two PWC'in' buddies had their third buddy back down a dual-PWC trailer.
Apparently the contest was to see who could trailer his PWC first.

So, they both came tearing into the ramp area, apparently forgetting or
perhaps unaware of the fact that on an outgoing tide, the current is
sometimes more than six knots laterally. The PWC on the right slammed into
the PWC on the left just before they both reached the trailer bunks.
The PWC on the left then slammed into the side of a professional fishing
guide's Hewes skiff, knocking the PWC'er right off his boat and into the
Hewes. The guide jumped off the dock, into his skiff and lifted the PWC'er
off the deck of his craft by the back of the kid's lifejacket. For a moment
or two, I thought the guide was going to rip the PWC'er's head right off,
but bad sense prevailed, and he put the kid down. I was disappointed,
because I figured the blood and guts would have made a nice chum slick.

The impact put a dent into the Hewes' rubrail, and a crack into the hull of
the PWC.

From what I could see, the guide got all the license information from the
kid, who looked about 20 to me. I think he was planning to call the PWC'er's
dad. I doubt if that would have done any good.

Phantom

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Oct 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/7/97
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Hey Harry,
Why don't we all be grown up about this and openly
admit that there are both PWCers "and" boat/yacht
operators that lack a brain mechanism assembly? If
we worked together (it is possible) then we could rid
the waterways of both. Why do we always have to
bash each other? There are good & bad in both areas!
I've been a boat owner and hated the 'ol stand-ups
(I am dating myself) that came too damn close to the
boat just to jump the wakes, now I own several PWC
(sit downs & please spare me) and I have seen the
boaters and yachts acting like they have never been
on the water....it goes both ways!
"Together there is little we can not do in a host of
cooperative ventures. But, divided there is little we
can do for we dare not meet any powerful challenge
and split asunder." My apologies to JFK
Phantom <rhin...@mindspring.com


On Tue, 07 Oct 1997 11:17:14 -0400, Harry Krause <hkr...@gate.net>
wrote:

Larry KN4IM

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Oct 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/7/97
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Đrew <afo...@infi.net> wrote:

> Finally, anticipating a VERY long day at the ramp, I walked up to the
>guy and told him to unhook his stern strap.
>
>-Drew

Hee hee....I watched a 300hp Black Max pull a boat off a trailer into
the Tailrace Canal in Moncks Corner, SC. Too bad he didn't unhook it
from the big geared winch. That big monster motor pulled the trailer
and a nearly brand new Ford F-150 "Lightning" custom red pickup RIGHT
INTO THE RIVER! Amazing power those big V-something outboards....(c;

As the truck was running, underwater, because his wife driving it
JUMPED FOR HER LIFE when "Big Dummy" gunned the Black Max in reverse
at WFO, there wasn't a question of driving it home. We heard
something underwater kind of "explode", probably a connecting rod on
the huge V8 in "Big Dummy's" Lightning.

Er, ah, I forgot to mention the unhappy ending.....As wifey didn't
bother with the emergency brake when she "jumped ship", the
truck/trailer STILL CONNECTED to the bow of the big Allison race boat
slid down into DEEPER WATER "Big Dummy" also had to swim ashore! The
FANTASTICLY MADE geared winch FLAWLESSLY pulled the bow of "Big
Dummy's" Allison underwater up to about even with the back seat. The
Black Max, now completely out of the water sticking straight up, was
lucky enough to stall running sideways above the gas tanks....It was
about 12' in the air from the boat's floatation fighting against the
weight of the truck/trailer on the bottom of the canal...and the 4-5
knot current trying to pull it to the sea.....

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Several people snapped
"rememberance pictures" of it to show friends and family....(c;

Idiots......
Larry....What? No Yamaha GrossPig1200 slams??!! I must be sick!


Stevo

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Oct 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/8/97
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This is why people , especially old folk, sit at the ramp for hours. Their
not waiting for Sinatra, no, no. There's always something going amuck and
the show is supplied by both pwc and conventional boaters. We really
should understand each other much better as our similarities by far
outnumber our differences.
Stevo

Larry KN4IM <kn...@mindspring.com> wrote in article
<343abd4e...@news.mindspring.com>...

rm...@cdc.gov

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Oct 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/8/97
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In article <01bcd389$395e6880$dd3f...@steves-workgrp.nassau.cv.net>,

"Stevo" <sda...@nassau.cv.net> wrote:
>
> This is why people , especially old folk, sit at the ramp for hours. Their
> not waiting for Sinatra, no, no. There's always something going amuck and
> the show is supplied by both pwc and conventional boaters. We really
> should understand each other much better as our similarities by far
> outnumber our differences.
> Stevo
>

My most *memorable* launch ramp story was in San Diego Bay at Shelter
Island launch ramp. I was waiting for my wife (nature called) and was
watching this brand new Dodge V-8 Ramcharger back this HUGE brand new
cabin cruiser into the bay. The elderly man got out of the truck and
climbed onto the bow of his new boat. After about 5 minutes of trying to
unhook his bow rope from the trailer, I walked into the chest deep water
and unhooked it for him. He got behind the wheel, started the twin V-8
inboards, and promptly went FULL THROTTLE backwards towards the dock
lined with fishermen/boaters/jetskiers. Luckily, the roar of the huge
engines warned everyone, who scattered like cockroaches and most dove
into the water. I used my X-2 to pull 3 people to the ramp one at a time
as the boat ended up with it's stern up on the dock with the engines
still going wide open. After giving my statement to the Harbor Patrol, I
went out and jumped waves till dark :>) Ray (if ure sittin....ure
butt-skiing) Hinton

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