Does anyone have any information about an indoor racing tour in Europe. I've heard mention of it but I don't know what it is about. Does it actually take place in a stadium? How popular is it? I've never seen coverage of such an event in "Jet Sports" and they usually have a feature or two about international racing in every issue. Any thoughts on this?
I have also heard of a similar tour in Japan.
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>Does anyone have any information about an indoor racing tour in Europe. I've >heard mention of it but I don't know what it is about. Does it actually take >place in a stadium? How popular is it? I've never seen coverage of such an >event in "Jet Sports" and they usually have a feature or two about >international racing in every issue. Any thoughts on this?
>I have also heard of a similar tour in Japan.
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On Mon, 29 Mar 1999 18:44:05 GMT, barracuda...@my-dejanews.com wrote: >Does anyone have any information about an indoor racing tour in Europe. I've >heard mention of it but I don't know what it is about. Does it actually take >place in a stadium? How popular is it? I've never seen coverage of such an >event in "Jet Sports" and they usually have a feature or two about >international racing in every issue. Any thoughts on this?
Sounds like what they used to do with the old Roman era. They would flood the unit and have mock naval battles in the arena. It's hard to imagine with what little tech they had back then that they were able to design, pump, filter, drain, and maintain entire water supplies and then have it ready for land/ground combat and such within a few days. Rather like filling up a football stadium with dirt for supercross but on a much deeper level.
> They have one at Bercys in France 3rd of April. It is invitation race. It is > indoor stadium same place where they have > Supercrosses.
> barracuda...@my-dejanews.com kirjoitti viestissä > <7dohlj$kp...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>... > >Does anyone have any information about an indoor racing tour in Europe. I've > >heard mention of it but I don't know what it is about. Does it actually take > >place in a stadium? How popular is it? I've never seen coverage of such an > >event in "Jet Sports" and they usually have a feature or two about > >international racing in every issue. Any thoughts on this?
> >I have also heard of a similar tour in Japan.
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It's not the first time that there's an indoor race in Bercy. If I remember good, back in 1990, the event was already held there with Jacobs, Fishetti, and even Rius... Every year they even organize a windsurf event in Bercy with giant air blower... In the past Stadium events were held in Paris (Bercy), Lyon (France),and Barcelona in Spain but no tour. Bercy this year will be a "one-shot". They announce Mac, Fish, Rius, Paturel, and many other US riders. I'll keep you informed about the results.
Rexven wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 1999 18:44:05 GMT, barracuda...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >Does anyone have any information about an indoor racing tour in Europe. I've > >heard mention of it but I don't know what it is about. Does it actually take > >place in a stadium? How popular is it? I've never seen coverage of such an > >event in "Jet Sports" and they usually have a feature or two about > >international racing in every issue. Any thoughts on this?
> Sounds like what they used to do with the old Roman era. They would > flood the unit and have mock naval battles in the arena. It's hard to > imagine with what little tech they had back then that they were able > to design, pump, filter, drain, and maintain entire water supplies and > then have it ready for land/ground combat and such within a few days. > Rather like filling up a football stadium with dirt for supercross but > on a much deeper level.
The indoor race starts this saturday 03. April in Paris/Bercy France at 8 pm (cet). There is a freestyle show with Rick Roy and stand up and runabout pro motos. I think they will show it in tv (eurosport). Bye Thomas
In article <19990330003142.26413.00002...@ng61.aol.com>, tomka...@aol.com (Tomka111) wrote:
> The indoor race starts this saturday 03. April in Paris/Bercy France at 8 pm > (cet). There is a freestyle show with Rick Roy and stand up and runabout pro > motos. I think they will show it in tv (eurosport). Bye Thomas
If any one has pictures of this event after it occurs please post them.
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>> The indoor race starts this saturday 03. April in Paris/Bercy France at 8 >pm >> (cet). There is a freestyle show with Rick Roy and stand up and runabout >pro >> motos. I think they will show it in tv (eurosport). Bye Thomas
>If any one has pictures of this event after it occurs please post them.
I sure hope the I.J.S.B.A and its key officials are in France checking out this weekends indoor event. This is exactly the type of promotional event that the I.J.S.B.A needs to add to the National Tour in order to push pwc enthusiasts/ competitors into the mainstream marketplace. Just compare how popular motocross was in america 20yrs ago prior to "Supercross"? It was among avid moto fans but not very marketable to the public. Today in 1999 there is more than one supercross series with more entries and riders nationwide than it can handle. Lots of television coverage too!!!! These european promoters are the best at putting on a show and bringing in the crowds = $$$$$. (ie; Paris Supercross) I just wish we could gain some positive knowledge from this Indoor event...in europe.. and bring it back to our country and make it work for the U.S.A. market. Anyone have any comments please feel free to add them. thks.
>I sure hope the I.J.S.B.A and its key officials are in France checking
>out this weekends indoor event.
It would seem a prudent action, which must surely indicate that they will not be in attendance. Perhaps they will send the Int'l guy Bjork or D'ork or B'onery (whatever) and he can tell all how fabulous it is, thereby making it impossible for the americans to do it. - ask him, he'll tell you.
The fist Indoor in Bercy was good but the Promoters lost a lot of money. Jet Sport is not so popular as in the US here in Europe. (I saw Sea-Doo ads on TV when I got in California: I've never see a watercraft brand making advertissment on TV in Europe....) At this time there was only stand-up. And every racer that took part to an indoor can say you how small is the course. It make it very difficult to race. My wife raced in the Barcelona Indoor and said it was like a lottery. This time they will bring Runabouts on the line: I'm really curious to see such boats racing in indoor... I'll keep the ng informed. I will not go there but I've read it will be broadcasted live on the Eurosport channel.
> I sure hope the I.J.S.B.A and its key officials are in France checking > out this weekends indoor event. > This is exactly the type of promotional event that the I.J.S.B.A > needs to add to the National Tour in order to push pwc enthusiasts/ competitors > into the mainstream marketplace. > Just compare how popular motocross was in america 20yrs ago prior to > "Supercross"? It was among avid moto fans but not very marketable to the > public. > Today in 1999 there is more than one supercross series with more > entries and riders nationwide than it can handle. Lots of television coverage > too!!!! > These european promoters are the best at putting on a show and > bringing in the crowds = $$$$$. (ie; Paris Supercross) > I just wish we could gain some positive knowledge from this Indoor > event...in europe.. and bring it back to our country and make it work for the > U.S.A. market. > Anyone have any comments please feel free to add them. thks.
Bill, I agree with the sentiment that more off events like this need to be incorporated into a venue. An indoor tour would be killer, or moreso having an 8 stop closed course tour and allow racers to get external points from another event, say indoor or a jump off. It might work kind of like slalom does in closed course. The national champion would earn the points off the tour and say points from 2 "alternative events" that way if you did 2 indoor and won 2 you would have some extra points, but another competitor who did the same in a surf contest would acheive the same points. In practical use, this may be a terrible idea, but I think conceptually there is some good theory in it. Frazier
You can look to the IJSBA again for dropping the ball on indoor events. A few years ago a promoter from out West tried to start a indoor series and the IJSBA made it very difficult for him to the extent that he lost so much money that he gave up the project. The IJSBA seems to be working against us more than anything.
Bbeach737 wrote: > >> The indoor race starts this saturday 03. April in Paris/Bercy France at 8 > >pm > >> (cet). There is a freestyle show with Rick Roy and stand up and runabout > >pro > >> motos. I think they will show it in tv (eurosport). Bye Thomas
> >If any one has pictures of this event after it occurs please post them.
> I sure hope the I.J.S.B.A and its key officials are in France checking > out this weekends indoor event. > This is exactly the type of promotional event that the I.J.S.B.A > needs to add to the National Tour in order to push pwc enthusiasts/ competitors > into the mainstream marketplace. > Just compare how popular motocross was in america 20yrs ago prior to > "Supercross"? It was among avid moto fans but not very marketable to the > public. > Today in 1999 there is more than one supercross series with more > entries and riders nationwide than it can handle. Lots of television coverage > too!!!! > These european promoters are the best at putting on a show and > bringing in the crowds = $$$$$. (ie; Paris Supercross) > I just wish we could gain some positive knowledge from this Indoor > event...in europe.. and bring it back to our country and make it work for the > U.S.A. market. > Anyone have any comments please feel free to add them. thks.
The sad thing is that there was an indoor event scheduled at the Astrodome last year which failed to materialize. I believe the promotor blamed the IJSBA and lack of OEM support.
In article <3703AA98.8E1CF...@tnn.com>, Gary Bolton <bol...@tnn.com> wrote:
> You can look to the IJSBA again for dropping the ball on indoor events. A few > years ago a promoter from out West tried to start a indoor series and the IJSBA > made it very difficult for him to the extent that he lost so much money that he > gave up the project. The IJSBA seems to be working against us more than anything.
> Gary
> Bbeach737 wrote:
> > >> The indoor race starts this saturday 03. April in Paris/Bercy France at 8 > > >pm > > >> (cet). There is a freestyle show with Rick Roy and stand up and runabout > > >pro > > >> motos. I think they will show it in tv (eurosport). Bye Thomas
> > >If any one has pictures of this event after it occurs please post them.
> > I sure hope the I.J.S.B.A and its key officials are in France checking > > out this weekends indoor event. > > This is exactly the type of promotional event that the I.J.S.B.A > > needs to add to the National Tour in order to push pwc enthusiasts/ competitors > > into the mainstream marketplace. > > Just compare how popular motocross was in america 20yrs ago prior to > > "Supercross"? It was among avid moto fans but not very marketable to the > > public. > > Today in 1999 there is more than one supercross series with more > > entries and riders nationwide than it can handle. Lots of television coverage > > too!!!! > > These european promoters are the best at putting on a show and > > bringing in the crowds = $$$$$. (ie; Paris Supercross) > > I just wish we could gain some positive knowledge from this Indoor > > event...in europe.. and bring it back to our country and make it work for the > > U.S.A. market. > > Anyone have any comments please feel free to add them. thks.
> > Bill
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> The sad thing is that there was an indoor event scheduled at the Astrodome > last year which failed to materialize. I believe the promotor blamed the > IJSBA and lack of OEM support.
> In article <3703AA98.8E1CF...@tnn.com>, > Gary Bolton <bol...@tnn.com> wrote: > > Bill,
> > You can look to the IJSBA again for dropping the ball on indoor events. A few > > years ago a promoter from out West tried to start a indoor series and the > IJSBA > > made it very difficult for him to the extent that he lost so much money that > he > > gave up the project. The IJSBA seems to be working against us more than > anything.
> > Gary
> > Bbeach737 wrote:
> > > >> The indoor race starts this saturday 03. April in Paris/Bercy France at 8 > > > >pm > > > >> (cet). There is a freestyle show with Rick Roy and stand up and runabout > > > >pro > > > >> motos. I think they will show it in tv (eurosport). Bye Thomas
> > > >If any one has pictures of this event after it occurs please post them.
> > > I sure hope the I.J.S.B.A and its key officials are in France > checking > > > out this weekends indoor event. > > > This is exactly the type of promotional event that the I.J.S.B.A > > > needs to add to the National Tour in order to push pwc enthusiasts/ > competitors > > > into the mainstream marketplace. > > > Just compare how popular motocross was in america 20yrs ago prior > to > > > "Supercross"? It was among avid moto fans but not very marketable to the > > > public. > > > Today in 1999 there is more than one supercross series with more > > > entries and riders nationwide than it can handle. Lots of television > coverage > > > too!!!! > > > These european promoters are the best at putting on a show and > > > bringing in the crowds = $$$$$. (ie; Paris Supercross) > > > I just wish we could gain some positive knowledge from this > Indoor > > > event...in europe.. and bring it back to our country and make it work for > the > > > U.S.A. market. > > > Anyone have any comments please feel free to add them. thks.
> > > Bill
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No it failed because the engineers for the Astrodome didn't like the thought of water over the electrics in the basement. The small pool was kinda flimsy. If they had hauled dirt in to reinforce the walls of the pool, it might have gone off with out a hitch. It needed to be bigger too.
Indoor racing was very close to being a reality here in the US however we could not put more than two manufactures behind the effort. We did have a reasonable sum of outside advertising to pay our way but not enough.
Myself and Jon Simpson both lost money on the deal and it did not even produce a race. It appears that I will never get my money back but that's racing, I guess. Big Red had promised to abandon the IJSBA and support our efforts from the Press release Fax that I still have in my drawer but that never fully happened either.
> The fist Indoor in Bercy was good but the Promoters lost a lot of money. Jet Sport > is not so popular as in the US here in Europe. (I saw Sea-Doo ads on TV when I got > in California: I've never see a watercraft brand making advertissment on TV in > Europe....) > At this time there was only stand-up. And every racer that took part to an indoor > can say you how small is the course. It make it very difficult to race. My wife > raced in the Barcelona Indoor and said it was like a lottery. > This time they will bring Runabouts on the line: I'm really curious to see such > boats racing in indoor... I'll keep the ng informed. > I will not go there but I've read it will be broadcasted live on the Eurosport > channel.
> > I sure hope the I.J.S.B.A and its key officials are in France checking > > out this weekends indoor event. > > This is exactly the type of promotional event that the I.J.S.B.A > > needs to add to the National Tour in order to push pwc enthusiasts/ competitors > > into the mainstream marketplace. > > Just compare how popular motocross was in america 20yrs ago prior to > > "Supercross"? It was among avid moto fans but not very marketable to the > > public. > > Today in 1999 there is more than one supercross series with more > > entries and riders nationwide than it can handle. Lots of television coverage > > too!!!! > > These european promoters are the best at putting on a show and > > bringing in the crowds = $$$$$. (ie; Paris Supercross) > > I just wish we could gain some positive knowledge from this Indoor > > event...in europe.. and bring it back to our country and make it work for the > > U.S.A. market. > > Anyone have any comments please feel free to add them. thks.
Actually the lack of support from the manufactures did us in the worst. Think about the #1 manufacture for sales in the US is... Got it. Sea-Doo wanted nothing to do with us because they have there own happy place in the Manufacture run IJSBA.
I have not renewed my membership in the IJSBA since I found out all the dirt as a result of trying to do this indoor venture.
I was to be the media relations coordinator and as part of that job stream the audio portion of the races out on the internet. Would have been nice, but as they say you can't loose money forever and stick with something.
Did the IJSBA Drop the ball on this? ABSOLUTELY. We were going to run the event under a new and distinct banner of our own design. The APBA was not much help although theirs was 5 times that of the IJSBA.
Deal me out... I've already written off the $9,000 dollars that I lost. Mike Steinmetz
barracuda...@my-dejanews.com wrote in article <7e0e63$j6...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> The sad thing is that there was an indoor event scheduled at the Astrodome > last year which failed to materialize. I believe the promotor blamed the > IJSBA and lack of OEM support.
> In article <3703AA98.8E1CF...@tnn.com>, > Gary Bolton <bol...@tnn.com> wrote: > > Bill,
> > You can look to the IJSBA again for dropping the ball on indoor events. A few > > years ago a promoter from out West tried to start a indoor series and the > IJSBA > > made it very difficult for him to the extent that he lost so much money that > he > > gave up the project. The IJSBA seems to be working against us more than > anything.
> > Gary
> > Bbeach737 wrote:
> > > >> The indoor race starts this saturday 03. April in Paris/Bercy France at 8 > > > >pm > > > >> (cet). There is a freestyle show with Rick Roy and stand up and runabout > > > >pro > > > >> motos. I think they will show it in tv (eurosport). Bye Thomas
> > > >If any one has pictures of this event after it occurs please post them.
> > > I sure hope the I.J.S.B.A and its key officials are in France > checking > > > out this weekends indoor event. > > > This is exactly the type of promotional event that the I.J.S.B.A > > > needs to add to the National Tour in order to push pwc enthusiasts/ > competitors > > > into the mainstream marketplace. > > > Just compare how popular motocross was in america 20yrs ago prior > to > > > "Supercross"? It was among avid moto fans but not very marketable to the > > > public. > > > Today in 1999 there is more than one supercross series with more > > > entries and riders nationwide than it can handle. Lots of television > coverage > > > too!!!! > > > These european promoters are the best at putting on a show and > > > bringing in the crowds = $$$$$. (ie; Paris Supercross) > > > I just wish we could gain some positive knowledge from this > Indoor > > > event...in europe.. and bring it back to our country and make it work for > the > > > U.S.A. market. > > > Anyone have any comments please feel free to add them. thks.
> > > Bill
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Wrong. The engineers had approved the plan to bring in enough dirt to make a pool the entire size of the Astrodome floor. The pool would have been lined with 80 mill plastic that they use in landfills to cover up freshly graded areas. This system was water proof and would have been made on site to each location that we traveled to. The neat thing is the material was reusable. We could have cut it back into the 10 foot wide strips it came in and hall it off to the next race.
We completely scrapped the portable pool idea after going to Canada and watching the indoor boat show they had a few years back in a concrete tank.
Just thought you'd like to know.
Mike Steinmetz
jetski junkies <Perry211*NOSP...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article <3703FD14.2...@ix.netcom.com>...
> > The sad thing is that there was an indoor event scheduled at the Astrodome > > last year which failed to materialize. I believe the promotor blamed the > > IJSBA and lack of OEM support.
> > In article <3703AA98.8E1CF...@tnn.com>, > > Gary Bolton <bol...@tnn.com> wrote: > > > Bill,
> > > You can look to the IJSBA again for dropping the ball on indoor events. A few > > > years ago a promoter from out West tried to start a indoor series and the > > IJSBA > > > made it very difficult for him to the extent that he lost so much money that > > he > > > gave up the project. The IJSBA seems to be working against us more than > > anything.
> > > Gary
> > > Bbeach737 wrote:
> > > > >> The indoor race starts this saturday 03. April in Paris/Bercy France at 8 > > > > >pm > > > > >> (cet). There is a freestyle show with Rick Roy and stand up and runabout > > > > >pro > > > > >> motos. I think they will show it in tv (eurosport). Bye Thomas
> > > > >If any one has pictures of this event after it occurs please post them.
> > > > I sure hope the I.J.S.B.A and its key officials are in France > > checking > > > > out this weekends indoor event. > > > > This is exactly the type of promotional event that the I.J.S.B.A > > > > needs to add to the National Tour in order to push pwc enthusiasts/ > > competitors > > > > into the mainstream marketplace. > > > > Just compare how popular motocross was in america 20yrs ago prior > > to > > > > "Supercross"? It was among avid moto fans but not very marketable to the > > > > public. > > > > Today in 1999 there is more than one supercross series with more > > > > entries and riders nationwide than it can handle. Lots of television > > coverage > > > > too!!!! > > > > These european promoters are the best at putting on a show and > > > > bringing in the crowds = $$$$$. (ie; Paris Supercross) > > > > I just wish we could gain some positive knowledge from this > > Indoor > > > > event...in europe.. and bring it back to our country and make it work for > > the > > > > U.S.A. market. > > > > Anyone have any comments please feel free to add them. thks.
> > > > Bill
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> No it failed because the engineers for the Astrodome didn't like the > thought of water over the electrics in the basement. The small pool was > kinda flimsy. If they had hauled dirt in to reinforce the walls of the > pool, it might have gone off with out a hitch. It needed to be bigger > too.
> Wrong. The engineers had approved the plan to bring in enough dirt to > make a pool the entire size of the Astrodome floor. The pool would have > been > lined with 80 mill plastic that they use in landfills to cover up freshly > graded areas. This system was water proof and would have been made > on site to each location that we traveled to. The neat thing is the > material > was reusable. We could have cut it back into the 10 foot wide strips it > came in and hall it off to the next race.
> We completely scrapped the portable pool idea after going to Canada and > watching the indoor boat show they had a few years back in a concrete > tank.
> Just thought you'd like to know.
> Mike Steinmetz
> jetski junkies <Perry211*NOSP...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article > <3703FD14.2...@ix.netcom.com>... > > barracuda...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> > > The sad thing is that there was an indoor event scheduled at the > Astrodome > > > last year which failed to materialize. I believe the promotor blamed > the > > > IJSBA and lack of OEM support.
> > > In article <3703AA98.8E1CF...@tnn.com>, > > > Gary Bolton <bol...@tnn.com> wrote: > > > > Bill,
> > > > You can look to the IJSBA again for dropping the ball on indoor > events. A few > > > > years ago a promoter from out West tried to start a indoor series and > the > > > IJSBA > > > > made it very difficult for him to the extent that he lost so much > money that > > > he > > > > gave up the project. The IJSBA seems to be working against us more > than > > > anything.
> > > > Gary
> > > > Bbeach737 wrote:
> > > > > >> The indoor race starts this saturday 03. April in Paris/Bercy > France at 8 > > > > > >pm > > > > > >> (cet). There is a freestyle show with Rick Roy and stand up and > runabout > > > > > >pro > > > > > >> motos. I think they will show it in tv (eurosport). Bye Thomas
> > > > > >If any one has pictures of this event after it occurs please post > them.
> > > > > I sure hope the I.J.S.B.A and its key officials are in > France > > > checking > > > > > out this weekends indoor event. > > > > > This is exactly the type of promotional event that the > I.J.S.B.A > > > > > needs to add to the National Tour in order to push pwc enthusiasts/ > > > competitors > > > > > into the mainstream marketplace. > > > > > Just compare how popular motocross was in america 20yrs > ago prior > > > to > > > > > "Supercross"? It was among avid moto fans but not very marketable > to the > > > > > public. > > > > > Today in 1999 there is more than one supercross series > with more > > > > > entries and riders nationwide than it can handle. Lots of > television > > > coverage > > > > > too!!!! > > > > > These european promoters are the best at putting on a > show and > > > > > bringing in the crowds = $$$$$. (ie; Paris Supercross) > > > > > I just wish we could gain some positive knowledge from > this > > > Indoor > > > > > event...in europe.. and bring it back to our country and make it > work for > > > the > > > > > U.S.A. market. > > > > > Anyone have any comments please feel free to add them. > thks.
> > > > > Bill
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> > No it failed because the engineers for the Astrodome didn't like the > > thought of water over the electrics in the basement. The small pool was > > kinda flimsy. If they had hauled dirt in to reinforce the walls of the > > pool, it might have gone off with out a hitch. It needed to be bigger > > too.
> > Perry
Then why was there no dirt at the Astrodome site around the pool? Just a metal fence looking thing.
> You are confusing these folks with the guy from California. Totally different > concepts on how to build the pool.
> Dave
> jetski junkies wrote:
> > Mike Steinmetz wrote:
> > > Perry,
> > > Wrong. The engineers had approved the plan to bring in enough dirt to > > > make a pool the entire size of the Astrodome floor. The pool would have > > > been > > > lined with 80 mill plastic that they use in landfills to cover up freshly > > > graded areas. This system was water proof and would have been made > > > on site to each location that we traveled to. The neat thing is the > > > material > > > was reusable. We could have cut it back into the 10 foot wide strips it > > > came in and hall it off to the next race.
> > > We completely scrapped the portable pool idea after going to Canada and > > > watching the indoor boat show they had a few years back in a concrete > > > tank.
> > > Just thought you'd like to know.
> > > Mike Steinmetz
> > > jetski junkies <Perry211*NOSP...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article > > > <3703FD14.2...@ix.netcom.com>... > > > > barracuda...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> > > > > The sad thing is that there was an indoor event scheduled at the > > > Astrodome > > > > > last year which failed to materialize. I believe the promotor blamed > > > the > > > > > IJSBA and lack of OEM support.
> > > > > > You can look to the IJSBA again for dropping the ball on indoor > > > events. A few > > > > > > years ago a promoter from out West tried to start a indoor series and > > > the > > > > > IJSBA > > > > > > made it very difficult for him to the extent that he lost so much > > > money that > > > > > he > > > > > > gave up the project. The IJSBA seems to be working against us more > > > than > > > > > anything.
> > > > > > Gary
> > > > > > Bbeach737 wrote:
> > > > > > > >> The indoor race starts this saturday 03. April in Paris/Bercy > > > France at 8 > > > > > > > >pm > > > > > > > >> (cet). There is a freestyle show with Rick Roy and stand up and > > > runabout > > > > > > > >pro > > > > > > > >> motos. I think they will show it in tv (eurosport). Bye Thomas
> > > > > > > >If any one has pictures of this event after it occurs please post > > > them.
> > > > > > > I sure hope the I.J.S.B.A and its key officials are in > > > France > > > > > checking > > > > > > > out this weekends indoor event. > > > > > > > This is exactly the type of promotional event that the > > > I.J.S.B.A > > > > > > > needs to add to the National Tour in order to push pwc enthusiasts/ > > > > > competitors > > > > > > > into the mainstream marketplace. > > > > > > > Just compare how popular motocross was in america 20yrs > > > ago prior > > > > > to > > > > > > > "Supercross"? It was among avid moto fans but not very marketable > > > to the > > > > > > > public. > > > > > > > Today in 1999 there is more than one supercross series > > > with more > > > > > > > entries and riders nationwide than it can handle. Lots of > > > television > > > > > coverage > > > > > > > too!!!! > > > > > > > These european promoters are the best at putting on a > > > show and > > > > > > > bringing in the crowds = $$$$$. (ie; Paris Supercross) > > > > > > > I just wish we could gain some positive knowledge from > > > this > > > > > Indoor > > > > > > > event...in europe.. and bring it back to our country and make it > > > work for > > > > > the > > > > > > > U.S.A. market. > > > > > > > Anyone have any comments please feel free to add them. > > > thks.
> > > > > > > Bill
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> > > > No it failed because the engineers for the Astrodome didn't like the > > > > thought of water over the electrics in the basement. The small pool was > > > > kinda flimsy. If they had hauled dirt in to reinforce the walls of the > > > > pool, it might have gone off with out a hitch. It needed to be bigger > > > > too.
> > > > Perry
> > Then why was there no dirt at the Astrodome site around the pool? Just a > > metal fence looking thing.
> > Perry
> -- > David B. Thomas (jetsk...@bellsouth.net) > Blew-By-You Personal Watercraft Services > 11605 Hwy 19 Norwood, LA 70761 > (225) 629-5621
OOoooops! I thought it was the same race promoter.. Made us freeze in the Astrodome parking lot.
> Perry, > I believe you are referring to the event that was tried several years ago by > Dan Sherbondy, it had the metal or aluminum framed perimeter.
> Mike Steinmetz was working with a different gentleman just this past year. > Their production did not get built at the'dome as did Sherbondy's which was > cancelled at the last second.
jetski junkies wrote in message <37045FF4.7...@ix.netcom.com>... >CT John90 wrote:
>> Perry, >> I believe you are referring to the event that was tried several years ago by >> Dan Sherbondy, it had the metal or aluminum framed perimeter.
>> Mike Steinmetz was working with a different gentleman just this past year. >> Their production did not get built at the'dome as did Sherbondy's which was >> cancelled at the last second.
>> Regards, >> John
>Yes I was confused...Thought it was the same guy.
MTa6963783 wrote in message <19990401232355.01976.00001...@ng61.aol.com>... > I raced in the pool in toronto and its wild how a fairly big pool gets small >while flying around on a SS runabout.Really it should be just a ski thing.It >was realy fun although confining. Nic Wallis
> > Wrong. The engineers had approved the plan to bring in enough dirt to > > make a pool the entire size of the Astrodome floor. The pool would have > > been > > lined with 80 mill plastic that they use in landfills to cover up freshly > > graded areas. This system was water proof and would have been made > > on site to each location that we traveled to. The neat thing is the > > material > > was reusable. We could have cut it back into the 10 foot wide strips it > > came in and hall it off to the next race.
> > We completely scrapped the portable pool idea after going to Canada and > > watching the indoor boat show they had a few years back in a concrete > > tank.
> > Just thought you'd like to know.
> > Mike Steinmetz
> > jetski junkies <Perry211*NOSP...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article > > <3703FD14.2...@ix.netcom.com>... > > > barracuda...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> > > > The sad thing is that there was an indoor event scheduled at the > > Astrodome > > > > last year which failed to materialize. I believe the promotor blamed > > the > > > > IJSBA and lack of OEM support.
> > > > > You can look to the IJSBA again for dropping the ball on indoor > > events. A few > > > > > years ago a promoter from out West tried to start a indoor series and > > the > > > > IJSBA > > > > > made it very difficult for him to the extent that he lost so much > > money that > > > > he > > > > > gave up the project. The IJSBA seems to be working against us more > > than > > > > anything.
> > > > > Gary
> > > > > Bbeach737 wrote:
> > > > > > >> The indoor race starts this saturday 03. April in Paris/Bercy > > France at 8 > > > > > > >pm > > > > > > >> (cet). There is a freestyle show with Rick Roy and stand up and > > runabout > > > > > > >pro > > > > > > >> motos. I think they will show it in tv (eurosport). Bye Thomas
> > > > > > >If any one has pictures of this event after it occurs please post > > them.
> > > > > > I sure hope the I.J.S.B.A and its key officials are in > > France > > > > checking > > > > > > out this weekends indoor event. > > > > > > This is exactly the type of promotional event that the > > I.J.S.B.A > > > > > > needs to add to the National Tour in order to push pwc enthusiasts/ > > > > competitors > > > > > > into the mainstream marketplace. > > > > > > Just compare how popular motocross was in america 20yrs > > ago prior > > > > to > > > > > > "Supercross"? It was among avid moto fans but not very marketable > > to the > > > > > > public. > > > > > > Today in 1999 there is more than one supercross series > > with more > > > > > > entries and riders nationwide than it can handle. Lots of > > television > > > > coverage > > > > > > too!!!! > > > > > > These european promoters are the best at putting on a > > show and > > > > > > bringing in the crowds = $$$$$. (ie; Paris Supercross) > > > > > > I just wish we could gain some positive knowledge from > > this > > > > Indoor > > > > > > event...in europe.. and bring it back to our country and make it > > work for > > > > the > > > > > > U.S.A. market. > > > > > > Anyone have any comments please feel free to add them. > > thks.
> > > > > > Bill
> > > > -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- > > > > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
> > > No it failed because the engineers for the Astrodome didn't like the > > > thought of water over the electrics in the basement. The small pool was > > > kinda flimsy. If they had hauled dirt in to reinforce the walls of the > > > pool, it might have gone off with out a hitch. It needed to be bigger > > > too.
> > > Perry
> Then why was there no dirt at the Astrodome site around the pool? Just a > metal fence looking thing.
> Perry
-- David B. Thomas (jetsk...@bellsouth.net) Blew-By-You Personal Watercraft Services 11605 Hwy 19 Norwood, LA 70761 (225) 629-5621
Perry, I believe you are referring to the event that was tried several years ago by Dan Sherbondy, it had the metal or aluminum framed perimeter.
Mike Steinmetz was working with a different gentleman just this past year. Their production did not get built at the'dome as did Sherbondy's which was cancelled at the last second.
I raced in the pool in toronto and its wild how a fairly big pool gets small while flying around on a SS runabout.Really it should be just a ski thing.It was realy fun although confining. Nic Wallis
