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Moderate

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Feb 21, 2017, 11:55:52 AM2/21/17
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"Welcome to Trumpton" <trum...@maiIsorter.co.uk> Wrote in message:
> https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/21/british-muslim-teacher-taken-off-us-bound-flight-i-was-treated-like-a-criminal
>
> --
> Most people believe there is truth and there are lies. “Alternative
> facts” are lies.
>

This isn't racism.
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Bob...@onramp.net

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Feb 21, 2017, 12:09:44 PM2/21/17
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 10:55:49 -0600 (CST), Moderate <nos...@nomail.com>
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LOL. You're really something. Get help.

Moderate

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Feb 21, 2017, 12:28:11 PM2/21/17
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Bob...@Onramp.net Wrote in message:
This is racism:

"Are you going to work in those fields? I don't know
> if you have children or grandchildren, but if so would they? Nope,
> we've come to depend on such minorities to be that working class."
>
> -BK

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John B.

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Feb 21, 2017, 12:34:03 PM2/21/17
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No, it's Islamophobia, which you share.

michae...@gmail.com

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Feb 21, 2017, 12:56:58 PM2/21/17
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Perhaps when the Ragheads blow up a mall, you and your family will be shopping there.

Bob...@onramp.net

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Feb 21, 2017, 12:58:21 PM2/21/17
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 11:28:08 -0600 (CST), Moderate <nos...@nomail.com>

Bob...@onramp.net

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Feb 21, 2017, 12:59:47 PM2/21/17
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 11:28:08 -0600 (CST), Moderate <nos...@nomail.com>
Not in the least. It's just true.

Moderate

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Feb 21, 2017, 6:07:15 PM2/21/17
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It is true for you.
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Bob...@onramp.net

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Feb 21, 2017, 8:19:14 PM2/21/17
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 17:07:11 -0600 (CST), Moderate <nos...@nomail.com>
wrote:

>Bob...@Onramp.net Wrote in message:
>> On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 11:28:08 -0600 (CST), Moderate <nos...@nomail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>This is racism:
>>>
>>> "Are you going to work in those fields? I don't know
>>>> if you have children or grandchildren, but if so would they? Nope,
>>>> we've come to depend on such minorities to be that working class."
>>>>
>>>> -BK
>>
>> Not in the least. It's just true.
>>
>
>It is true for you.

You can't face a fact, so fuck off.

Moderate

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Feb 22, 2017, 6:13:19 AM2/22/17
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Bob...@Onramp.net Wrote in message:
>.
>
> You can't face a fact, so fuck off.
>

Racist.
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David Laville

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Feb 28, 2017, 4:59:25 PM2/28/17
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You democrats didn't consider slavery to be racism back than either.


David Laville

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Feb 28, 2017, 4:59:38 PM2/28/17
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 17:38:10 +0000 (UTC), "Welcome to Trumpton"
<trum...@maiIsorter.co.uk> wrote:
>Congratulations; parrots need to beware their jobs with you on the case.
>
>...or can you answer the implied open question and demonstrate you are
>not just a bird brain?
>
>Please don't shit on my shoulder.

He did answer the question and correctly. Religion is not a race so
it wasn't racism.

The only bird brain is the one who made an ass of himself exposing his
ignorance.

David Laville

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Feb 28, 2017, 4:59:47 PM2/28/17
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Actually the person needing help is the one who thinks religion and
race are the same thing.....

David Laville

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Feb 28, 2017, 4:59:58 PM2/28/17
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 16:46:03 +0000 (UTC), "Welcome to Trumpton"
<trum...@maiIsorter.co.uk> wrote:

>https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/21/british-muslim-teacher-taken-off-us-bound-flight-i-was-treated-like-a-criminal

It's not racism. All you had to do was read the first paragraph;

"A young British Muslim teacher escorted off a New York-bound flight
by US officials in front of the school party he was helping lead has
spoken of his concerns that he was targeted simply because of his
religion".

Religion is not a race so it can't be racism.

Bob...@onramp.net

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Feb 28, 2017, 5:37:19 PM2/28/17
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I wasn't alive during slavery. Learn to spell.

John B.

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Feb 28, 2017, 5:40:16 PM2/28/17
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We democrats weren't born back then.

Alan Baker

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Feb 28, 2017, 5:56:49 PM2/28/17
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And they were able to tell what his religion was...

...how?

Carbon

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Feb 28, 2017, 7:53:03 PM2/28/17
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On 02/28/2017 05:40 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 4:59:25 PM UTC-5, David Laville wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 11:59:47 -0600, Bob...@Onramp.net wrote:
>>> On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 11:28:08 -0600 (CST), Moderate <nos...@nomail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Bob...@Onramp.net Wrote in message:
>>>>> On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 10:55:49 -0600 (CST), Moderate
>>>>> <nos...@nomail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This isn't racism.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL. You're really something. Get help.
>>>>
>>>> This is racism:
>>>>
>>>>> "Are you going to work in those fields? I don't know if you have
>>>>> children or grandchildren, but if so would they? Nope, we've come
>>>>> to depend on such minorities to be that working class."
>>>
>>> Not in the least. It's just true.
>>
>> You democrats didn't consider slavery to be racism back than either.
>
> We democrats weren't born back then.

The far right likes to cling to the canard that because most southern
racists were Democrats 50 years go, they must all be Democrats now as
well. This ignores the factual reality that most southern whites are now
Republican. They left the Democratic party over issues like desegregating
the military, the schools, etc. This applies particularly to the racists.
It is a fact that the KKK endorsed Trump for president. So did an army of
neo-Nazis, skinheads and other such bottom-feeders.

It would be a nice surprise if we got some honesty from the far right
about this, but it will never happen. They just repeat this same stupid
crap every time the subject comes up.

Bob...@onramp.net

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Feb 28, 2017, 8:26:10 PM2/28/17
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Mainly from two simple-minded pricks that don't know any better.
Ultra-Right is incurable.

Moderate

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Mar 1, 2017, 6:26:10 AM3/1/17
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Bob...@Onramp.net Wrote in message:
Mostly from the racists statements and actions of you two liberals.

You and Carbon have repeatedly said minorities should be doing the
low paying unskilled work.
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recscub...@huntzinger.com

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Mar 1, 2017, 8:59:50 AM3/1/17
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Still trying to gaslight there, Moderate?


> You and Carbon have repeatedly said minorities should be
> doing the low paying unskilled work.

"should be"? Cite please.

FYI, do note that simply reporting on what is ... is not an
endorsement of that reality.

The reality is that there's a lot of minorities which haven't
been able to get citizenship who are consequently making a
living in the USA's cash economy, typically in jobs where
the pay is lower ... but the key question to this is if the
lower effective pay is because it is an unskilled laborer
position that isn't worth paying more for, or if it is because
these positions are able to offer less pay because illegals
lack status to negotiate for higher pay.

In simplest terms, certain US industries don't want the
illegal immigrant "problem" to be solved because for them,
the status quo allows for them to provide substantially lower
labor compensation costs.

Case in point:

<http://www.nytimes.com/1998/06/14/nyregion/after-15-years-in-court-workers-lawsuit-against-trump-faces-yet-another-delay.html>


-hh

Alan Baker

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Mar 1, 2017, 11:41:37 AM3/1/17
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On 2017-02-28 1:59 PM, David Laville wrote:
Deciding what religion he must have by looking at his race is...

Alan Baker

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Mar 1, 2017, 12:13:10 PM3/1/17
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On 2017-03-01 9:05 AM, Bigbird wrote:
> A singularly unintelligent response. That you repeated it only makes it
> worse.
>
> Google "cultural racism".
>
> Just because you choose to cling to defininiton of racism so that it
> excludes you does not change the fact that you are a racist.
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-considine/muslims-are-not-a-race_b_8591660.html
>

Well said...

...and thanks for outing yourself.

Moderate

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Mar 1, 2017, 1:00:19 PM3/1/17
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"Bigbird" <Bigbird.us...@Gmail.com> Wrote in message:
> David Laville wrote:
>>
>> Religion is not a race so it can't be racism.
>
> A singularly unintelligent response. That you repeated it only makes it
> worse.
>
> Google "cultural racism".
>
> Just because you choose to cling to defininiton of racism so that it
> excludes you does not change the fact that you are a racist.
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-considine/muslims-are-not-a-race_b_8591660.html
>
>

Look up racism in a dictionary and stop inventing non-issues to
fit your narcissistic agenda.
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Bob...@onramp.net

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Mar 1, 2017, 1:35:46 PM3/1/17
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On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 05:26:07 -0600 (CST), Moderate <nos...@nomail.com>
wrote:
I'll give you the benefit of a doubt by saying that you're just not
smart enough to see that we have NEVER said that. Or, you just exist
to lie.

Bob...@onramp.net

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Mar 1, 2017, 1:41:38 PM3/1/17
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On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 05:59:47 -0800 (PST),
recscub...@huntzinger.com wrote:

>On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 6:26:10 AM UTC-5, Moderate wrote:
>> Bob...@Onramp.net Wrote in message:
>> > On Tue, 28 Feb 2017 19:53:00 -0500, Carbon
>> > <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>The far right likes to cling to the canard that because most southern
>> >>racists were Democrats 50 years go, they must all be Democrats now as
>> >>well. This ignores the factual reality that most southern whites are now
>> >>Republican. They left the Democratic party over issues like desegregating
>> >>the military, the schools, etc. This applies particularly to the racists.
>> >>It is a fact that the KKK endorsed Trump for president. So did an army of
>> >>neo-Nazis, skinheads and other such bottom-feeders.
>> >>
>> >>It would be a nice surprise if we got some honesty from the far right
>> >>about this, but it will never happen. They just repeat this same stupid
>> >>crap every time the subject comes up.
>> >
>> > Mainly from two simple-minded pricks that don't know any better.
>> > Ultra-Right is incurable.
>>
>> Mostly from the racists statements and actions of you two liberals.
>
>Still trying to gaslight there, Moderate?

That, and everything following will be over Moderate's comprehension
level.

recscub...@huntzinger.com

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Mar 1, 2017, 1:56:30 PM3/1/17
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This is lame excuse, for there is no singular word in the English
language for religious intolerance that's akin to how racism is
for racial intolerance.

And given how there are some generalities of correlation between
various ethnic/racial groups and their choice of religion, to
use 'racism' as the analog for its religious component isn't
exactly wrong.


-hh

Bob...@onramp.net

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Mar 1, 2017, 2:01:46 PM3/1/17
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On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 12:00:03 -0600 (CST), Moderate <nos...@nomail.com>
wrote:
IRONY

noun

noun: irony

the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally
signifies the opposite.

Moderate

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Mar 1, 2017, 2:26:47 PM3/1/17
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You both said it repeatedly.
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Bob...@onramp.net

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Mar 1, 2017, 2:39:52 PM3/1/17
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On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 13:26:43 -0600 (CST), Moderate <nos...@nomail.com>
OK Liar, try to prove that either of us said that "minorities should
be doing the low paying unskilled work". You won't because you can't.
It never happened, proving once again that you're an inveterate,
compulsive liar and a low-life maggot.

Carbon

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Mar 1, 2017, 4:36:14 PM3/1/17
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Mostly he's a liar but he's too stupid to be any good at it. He has a
permanent home in my killfile with all the other crackpots and trolls.

Moderate

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Mar 1, 2017, 4:59:46 PM3/1/17
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You provided the proof in your posts. Now you want to lie about it.
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Moderate

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Mar 1, 2017, 5:01:30 PM3/1/17
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Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> Wrote in message:

>
> He has a
> permanent home in my killfile with all the other people I owe money to.
>

Fixed your post.
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recscub...@huntzinger.com

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Mar 1, 2017, 5:11:37 PM3/1/17
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But if this "proof" is that obvious, you should be able to cite
several examples.

As I have said before -- are you trying to dodge? -- is that merely
reporting the facts of what is ... does not logically constitute
an endorsement of the same.


-hh

Bob...@onramp.net

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On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 15:59:43 -0600 (CST), Moderate <nos...@nomail.com>
wrote:

>Bob...@Onramp.net Wrote in message:
>> On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 13:26:43 -0600 (CST), Moderate <nos...@nomail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>You both said it repeatedly.
>>
>> OK Liar, try to prove that either of us said that "minorities should
>> be doing the low paying unskilled work". You won't because you can't.
>> It never happened, proving once again that you're an inveterate,
>> compulsive liar and a low-life maggot.
>>
>
>You provided the proof in your posts. Now you want to lie about it.

Just show one maggot. Not happening.

Bob...@onramp.net

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Mar 1, 2017, 5:39:17 PM3/1/17
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On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 16:01:27 -0600 (CST), Moderate <nos...@nomail.com>
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Idiot, responding to someone that kill filed you. Shows your IQ.

Carbon

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Mar 1, 2017, 6:30:50 PM3/1/17
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This cretin isn't worth your time.

Moderate

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Mar 1, 2017, 6:43:12 PM3/1/17
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Bob...@Onramp.net Wrote in message:
> On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 15:59:43 -0600 (CST), Moderate <nos...@nomail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>You provided the proof in your posts. Now you want to lie about it.
>
> Just show one maggot. Not happening.
>

I did.
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Moderate

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Bob...@Onramp.net Wrote in message:
Like when you kill filed me and replied to my posts.
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Bob...@onramp.net

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On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 17:43:07 -0600 (CST), Moderate <nos...@nomail.com>
wrote:

>Bob...@Onramp.net Wrote in message:
>> On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 15:59:43 -0600 (CST), Moderate <nos...@nomail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>You provided the proof in your posts. Now you want to lie about it.
>>
>> Just show one maggot. Not happening.
>>
>
>I did.

Liar.

Bob...@onramp.net

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Mar 1, 2017, 6:54:48 PM3/1/17
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On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 17:44:49 -0600 (CST), Moderate <nos...@nomail.com>
wrote:

>Bob...@Onramp.net Wrote in message:
>> On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 16:01:27 -0600 (CST), Moderate <nos...@nomail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> Wrote in message:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> He has a
>>>> permanent home in my killfile with all the other people I owe money to.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Fixed your post.
>>
>> Idiot, responding to someone that kill filed you. Shows your IQ.
>>
>
>Like when you kill filed me and replied to my posts.

Only to responses from others, but you're to stupid to figure that
out.
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