OT: Gerrymandering at its worst and most obvious:

[Alan Baker]

'Ohio's clever gerrymandering - the act of drawing congressional
district lines for political gain - goes beyond chasing like-minded voters.

In some cases it also involves balancing the size of the districts by
carefully assigning areas with thousands of adults who have no say at
the ballot box.

Ninety-one percent of Ohio's prison inmates are in Republican districts,
usually far from where they lived before being imprisoned, according to
a cleveland.com analysis based on October prison counts.

Felons in Ohio cannot vote while they are serving their time, but they
are important pieces of the gerrymandering puzzle. Prisoners help boost
rural Ohio's influence in Congress'

<http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2017/10/prisons_are_important_pieces_i.html>

'Perhaps there is no better example than a corner of Republican Rep. Jim
Jordan's 4th congressional district.

Jordan, from Urbana west of Columbus, represents a district that weaves
from near the Indiana border to Elyria. The most unusual spot may be a
hook-shaped area in eastern Lorain County.

The hook mostly includes Grafton, the eastern portion of which consists
of some fields plus 3,350 state prison inmates, as illustrated below.'

[-hh]

How about the deliberate destruction of evidence in an election fraud lawsuit?

"A server and its backups, believed to be key to a pending federal
lawsuit filed against Georgia election officials, was thoroughly
deleted according to e-mails recently released under a public records
request.

Georgia previously came under heavy scrutiny after a researcher
discovered significant problems with his home state’s voting system.
A lawsuit soon followed in state court, asking the court to annul
the results of the June 20 special election for Congress and to
prevent Georgia’s existing computer-based voting system from being
used again. The case, Curling v. Kemp, was filed in Fulton County
Superior Court on July 3."

<https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/10/days-after-activists-sued-georgias-election-server-was-wiped-clean/>


-hh

[Alan Baker]

On 2017-10-31 1:40 PM, Moderate wrote:
> -hh <recscub...@huntzinger.com> Wrote in message:

>>
>>
>> How about the deliberate destruction of evidence in an election fraud lawsuit?
>

> Or Congressional subpeona.
>
> This does have a smell to it, but why no outrage when Hillary does it?
>

When did she do that?

If she did it, why didn't a Republican-majority committee advance any
charges against her?

[MNMikeW]

Moderate wrote:
> -hh<recscub...@huntzinger.com> Wrote in message:
>>
>>

>> How about the deliberate destruction of evidence in an election fraud lawsuit?
>

> Or Congressional subpeona.
>
> This does have a smell to it, but why no outrage when Hillary does it?

Yes deleting emails, smashing Blackberrys with a hammer is normal
practice when under an investigation if your a Dem.

[Alan Baker]

On 2017-10-31 2:55 PM, Moderate wrote:
> MNMikeW <mnmi...@aol.com> Wrote in message:

> Papadopoulos did the same thing Hillary did. Lied to investigators
> (Congressional Committee).

What a shame you can't prove that...

>
> Nothing to see here.
>

[Alan Baker]

On 2017-10-31 3:06 PM, Moderate wrote:
> Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> Wrote in message:

> https://youtu.be/pG4P5_nON4Q
>

Clinton said that there was nothing MARKED classified, and the rebuttal
discussed whether there was classified information in her emails, not
whether they were marked classified.

No lie there.


The second supposed lie was her answering about WHAT SHE KNEW AT THE TIME.

No lie there.


Third, Clinton said her lawyers "went through every single email", and
the question that was asked was whether her lawyers "read" every email.
Not the same thing. You can determine that an email with the subject
"Happy Birthday, Mom" from her daughter doesn't contain classified
information without reading it from top to bottom.

No lie there.

See, doofus: that's ACTUAL REBUTTAL.

[B...@onramp.net]

On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 14:55:53 -0700, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
wrote:

The difference is that one is a mistake and the other led to a guilty
plea.
>
>>
>> Nothing to see here.
>>

[Alan Baker]

I'll go farther than that:

The Republicans doing the questioning of Comey lied about what Clinton
had said.

[MNMikeW]

Yes, typical liberal double standard. A Dem lies to investigators, a
"mistake". LOL!!

[Alan Baker]

What about all the lies you've excused from members of Trump's
administration in their filings, Mikey?

[B...@onramp.net]

More of the oracle's insight. You have no proof that she lied.
Besides as was pointed out, in that instance there is never punishment
but allowing alteration of the papers.