Somax Power Hip Trainer

[Invisaman75]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q28S9R4K9Fs

Has anyone used, tried or have an opinion of the "somax power hip trainer"? See link above.

I am looking to increase distance. I heard club head speed needs to increase and the real way is to do that is is with hip speed.

Thanks!

[somaxper...@gmail.com]

Plenty of reviews on Amazon.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:33:55 -0700 (PDT), somaxper...@gmail.com
wrote:

There's no doubt that increasing your hip turn will give you greater
swing speed and distance. I've been working with my pro on just that.
There's a lot of doubt about spending $275 plus shipping on something
that you don't need to do to increase the hip turn though.

[la...@pivotforpower.com]

Also, a good teaching pro knows what causes what in the golf swing. Often (in fact mostly) what we want to do is a result of something that must occur earlier in the motion or even at setup. As Hogan correctly said, the golf swing is a "cascade" of moves that must occur in sequence. If an early setup or foundation move doesn't happen correctly, then the sequence won't happen.

So the teachers focus on grip, setup, takeaway from the very first few inches. If those are wrong, a good swing is impossible-- or worse yet, requires a complex set of compensations. Thus the ubiquitous "wood" when we get everything right a few times-- but "worked only one day" when the next time we play it all falls apart.

The hips must lead the shoulders, but what triggers the hips? There is no doubt that a backswing that puts us in the correct top position will make a correct downswing possible, if not trigger it. Lessons are the shortcut if you want to play well soon.

Larry

[la...@pivotforpower.com]

On Friday, June 15, 2012 7:59:04 AM UTC-7, Invisaman75 wrote:

The answer is to hit it like older touring pros do. They take it up, then lay it off flatter than the original swing plane, shift, then swing through. The layoff move sets their wrists and engages their arms for the late release that accounts for 30-50 more yards with the same effort.

Ask a teaching pro to teach you to lay it off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKKOLfAnGKQ

Larry

[Alan Baker]

In article <1ea7f173-bca4-4361...@googlegroups.com>,

Why is it that whatever your pro is trying to get you to do at the
moment is always the answer for...

...EVERY SINGLE QUESTION ABOUT THE GOLF SWING...

...can you explain that?

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

[David Laville]

This is only half true. You do get more clubhead speed by increasing
your hip speed because you develop more angular speed. But you also
get clubhead speed from the uncocking of your right elbow, the
uncocking of your left wrist, the rotation of the clubhead around your
left hand and your left arm over-taking your left shoulder.

The problem I see with the Somax is injury for some people. I am not
a very flexible person and I have injured myself more trying to get
more and faster hip speed than any sport I have ever played. If a
person like me was to use the Somax I would probably injure myself.
For you it may work.

[la...@pivotforpower.com]

Hi David,

There is a very good reason no teaching pro uses a training aid.

The golf swing is about solid fundamentals of grip, setup, takeaway to reach a good top position. PERIOD!

But get to a correct top position and you will swing it down on plane and hit it as far as anyone your age can.

Every good teacher has you "take it up and stop," so he can show you where you should be. There is no training aid that gets you there. A live teacher helps you memorize that position and makes you memorize how you got there. Then if you are diligent, you go to the range and work to ingrain that. It really isn't rocket science.

But 99% of amateurs never reach anything like a correct top position. They struggle and invent compensations and play "soldier golf" by hitting it sideways from OB fence to deep rough, find it, hit it again, and finally get it up and in.

Larry

[Alan Baker]

In article <91ebd390-f78b-4bd9...@googlegroups.com>,

"la...@pivotforpower.com" <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 4:55:44 PM UTC-7, David Laville wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:59:04 -0700 (PDT), Invisaman75
> > <invis...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q28S9R4K9Fs
> > >
> > >Has anyone used, tried or have an opinion of the "somax power hip
> > >trainer"? See link above.
> > >
> > >I am looking to increase distance. I heard club head speed needs to
> > >increase and the real way is to do that is is with hip speed.
> >
> > This is only half true. You do get more clubhead speed by increasing
> > your hip speed because you develop more angular speed. But you also
> > get clubhead speed from the uncocking of your right elbow, the
> > uncocking of your left wrist, the rotation of the clubhead around your
> > left hand and your left arm over-taking your left shoulder.
> >
> > The problem I see with the Somax is injury for some people. I am not
> > a very flexible person and I have injured myself more trying to get
> > more and faster hip speed than any sport I have ever played. If a
> > person like me was to use the Somax I would probably injure myself.
> > For you it may work.
>
> Hi David,
>
> There is a very good reason no teaching pro uses a training aid.

And at one point, there was--according to you--a very good reason no
good teach pro used video, so...

>
> The golf swing is about solid fundamentals of grip, setup, takeaway to reach
> a good top position. PERIOD!
>
> But get to a correct top position and you will swing it down on plane and hit
> it as far as anyone your age can.

Utter nonsense.

>
> Every good teacher has you "take it up and stop," so he can show you where
> you should be. There is no training aid that gets you there. A live teacher
> helps you memorize that position and makes you memorize how you got there.
> Then if you are diligent, you go to the range and work to ingrain that. It
> really isn't rocket science.
>
> But 99% of amateurs never reach anything like a correct top position. They
> struggle and invent compensations and play "soldier golf" by hitting it
> sideways from OB fence to deep rough, find it, hit it again, and finally get
> it up and in.

You literally have no clue how real golf is played.