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dene

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Dec 17, 2007, 3:57:26 AM12/17/07
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I no sooner end my response to Baker and boom, he's posting his. I've seen
this time and again. I can just picture him in his mum's basement, glued to
usenet.

I laughed and then decided to completely ignore his responses. Ya
know....give him the nomen treatment.

Then I started thinking things through. With Ken gone, Larry rarely
posting, how is Baker going to continue his schtick of picking stupid
fights. Undoubtably, I'm in his crosshairs and if I play along, I'm going
to be wasting time in ridiculous pissing matches with a silver spoon ski bum
who cannot admit to anything obvious. More pertinent, what does he bring to
the table in terms of golf or life in general? He's made one interesting
thread about stack and tilt. That's it!!!! Rest have been Larry and Ken
threads, ad nauseum.

Time for action. I recalled some advice Phlum gave me about an server
called news.individual.net out of Germany. I googled it up, paid my 10
Euros ($15) and now I'm off Google Groups for good.

First one plonked. Alan Baker. Next one...Dave Jones, aka nomen. You
think I'd plonk Tex but truth be told, he's entertaining, even downright
funny, and I like his politics. So Tex stays. Al and not-so-brave-dave
goes.

I feel great. Nice to have control of my NG again.

-Greg


John van der Pflum

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Dec 17, 2007, 9:47:47 AM12/17/07
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:57:26 -0800, "dene" <de...@remove.ipns.com>
wrote:

Good move.

I'm sure you will find RSG much more pleasant. I have a few people
plonked but without exception they are either worthless posters (like
Laura Bush Murdered, Miss Anne Thrope, etc) or the truly anonymous
people, i.e. not just people who use a handle to hide their private
lives. I also plonk without exception the political threads.

I tend to keep a lot of the flame wars because honestly I find them
quite funny at times.

Plonking, used when necessary, has made RSG quite enjoyable for me.
--
jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

Bobby Knight

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Dec 17, 2007, 9:59:31 AM12/17/07
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:47:47 -0500, John van der Pflum
<nowhammy...@bite.org> wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:57:26 -0800, "dene" <de...@remove.ipns.com>
>wrote:

>>Time for action. I recalled some advice Phlum gave me about an server


>>called news.individual.net out of Germany. I googled it up, paid my 10
>>Euros ($15) and now I'm off Google Groups for good.
>>
>>First one plonked. Alan Baker. Next one...Dave Jones, aka nomen. You
>>think I'd plonk Tex but truth be told, he's entertaining, even downright
>>funny, and I like his politics. So Tex stays. Al and not-so-brave-dave
>>goes.
>>
>>I feel great. Nice to have control of my NG again.
>>
>>-Greg
>
>Good move.
>
>I'm sure you will find RSG much more pleasant. I have a few people
>plonked but without exception they are either worthless posters (like
>Laura Bush Murdered, Miss Anne Thrope, etc) or the truly anonymous
>people, i.e. not just people who use a handle to hide their private
>lives. I also plonk without exception the political threads.
>
>I tend to keep a lot of the flame wars because honestly I find them
>quite funny at times.
>
>Plonking, used when necessary, has made RSG quite enjoyable for me.

Me too. But wasn't it Greg who called me a coward for kill filing
him? I guess he thinks that of himself now.
--
___,
\o
|
/ \
.
"Someone likes every shot"!
bk

John van der Pflum

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Dec 17, 2007, 10:23:47 AM12/17/07
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:59:31 GMT, Bobby Knight <bkn...@conramp.net>
wrote:

People change. Do you still hold true to everything you've ever said?
--
jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

Bobby Knight

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Dec 17, 2007, 10:37:42 AM12/17/07
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:23:47 -0500, John van der Pflum
<nowhammy...@bite.org> wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:59:31 GMT, Bobby Knight <bkn...@conramp.net>
>wrote:

>>>Plonking, used when necessary, has made RSG quite enjoyable for me.

>>
>>Me too. But wasn't it Greg who called me a coward for kill filing
>>him? I guess he thinks that of himself now.
>
>People change. Do you still hold true to everything you've ever said?

Yes, I hold true to my beliefs. What I say is what I mean, and you
know that. When someone makes obvious statements that show their
hypocrisy... that isn't changing. Greg just did this, and you know
that too.

John van der Pflum

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Dec 17, 2007, 10:49:39 AM12/17/07
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:37:42 GMT, Bobby Knight <bkn...@conramp.net>
wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:23:47 -0500, John van der Pflum
><nowhammy...@bite.org> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:59:31 GMT, Bobby Knight <bkn...@conramp.net>
>>wrote:
>
>>>>Plonking, used when necessary, has made RSG quite enjoyable for me.
>>>
>>>Me too. But wasn't it Greg who called me a coward for kill filing
>>>him? I guess he thinks that of himself now.
>>
>>People change. Do you still hold true to everything you've ever said?
>
>Yes, I hold true to my beliefs. What I say is what I mean, and you
>know that. When someone makes obvious statements that show their
>hypocrisy... that isn't changing. Greg just did this, and you know
>that too.

I hold true to my beliefs too but they change and sometimes
dramatically. Some would consider that hypocrisy. I would call it
"self-awareness"[1] and "being able to listen to other points of
view." I don't think there is anything wrong with changing one's
mind. Isn't that what the exchange of ideas is all about?

[1] ... if that is even a word. I'm good at making up words.
--
jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

Bobby Knight

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Dec 17, 2007, 10:59:47 AM12/17/07
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:49:39 -0500, John van der Pflum
<nowhammy...@bite.org> wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:37:42 GMT, Bobby Knight <bkn...@conramp.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:23:47 -0500, John van der Pflum
>><nowhammy...@bite.org> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:59:31 GMT, Bobby Knight <bkn...@conramp.net>
>>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>Plonking, used when necessary, has made RSG quite enjoyable for me.
>>>>
>>>>Me too. But wasn't it Greg who called me a coward for kill filing
>>>>him? I guess he thinks that of himself now.
>>>
>>>People change. Do you still hold true to everything you've ever said?
>>
>>Yes, I hold true to my beliefs. What I say is what I mean, and you
>>know that. When someone makes obvious statements that show their
>>hypocrisy... that isn't changing. Greg just did this, and you know
>>that too.
>
>I hold true to my beliefs too but they change and sometimes
>dramatically. Some would consider that hypocrisy. I would call it
>"self-awareness"[1] and "being able to listen to other points of
>view." I don't think there is anything wrong with changing one's
>mind. Isn't that what the exchange of ideas is all about?
>
>[1] ... if that is even a word. I'm good at making up words.

Are you kidding? Please don't even suggest that Greg has become
"self-aware" and changed his mind about my kill filing him, or that he
will stop the skulking. Ain't happening.

Tex

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Dec 17, 2007, 11:02:18 AM12/17/07
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On Dec 17, 2:57 am, "dene" <d...@remove.ipns.com> wrote:
> You
> think I'd plonk Tex but truth be told, he's entertaining, even downright
> funny, and I like his politics. So Tex stays.

This must be a fake post. :)

Tex

John van der Pflum

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Dec 17, 2007, 11:23:07 AM12/17/07
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:59:47 GMT, Bobby Knight <bkn...@conramp.net>
wrote:

So, once one has taken a position on an issue it shall never change?

If that is the case I'm in big trouble. I said many times I would
never allow distance measuring devices at RSG-Cincinnati and then a
couple of years ago I allowed them.

The USGA is in big trouble for changing the Rules of Golf.
--
jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

Elmo

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Dec 17, 2007, 11:28:46 AM12/17/07
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You plonked MAT? Horrors! I block thread titles (and some worthless
posters). Regretfully, if anyone discusses a golf course in Iran or
Iraq, with a guitar, in Walmart, etc., I'll miss it completely.

--
Joe =o)
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Bobby Knight

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Dec 17, 2007, 11:39:40 AM12/17/07
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:23:07 -0500, John van der Pflum
<nowhammy...@bite.org> wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:59:47 GMT, Bobby Knight <bkn...@conramp.net>
>wrote:

>>Are you kidding? Please don't even suggest that Greg has become


>>"self-aware" and changed his mind about my kill filing him, or that he
>>will stop the skulking. Ain't happening.
>
>So, once one has taken a position on an issue it shall never change?
>

OK. When I'm told by him that I wasn't a coward for kill filing him,
fine. Think that'll happen John?

John van der Pflum

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Dec 17, 2007, 11:50:27 AM12/17/07
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:39:40 GMT, Bobby Knight <bkn...@conramp.net>
wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:23:07 -0500, John van der Pflum
><nowhammy...@bite.org> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:59:47 GMT, Bobby Knight <bkn...@conramp.net>
>>wrote:
>
>>>Are you kidding? Please don't even suggest that Greg has become
>>>"self-aware" and changed his mind about my kill filing him, or that he
>>>will stop the skulking. Ain't happening.
>>
>>So, once one has taken a position on an issue it shall never change?
>>
>OK. When I'm told by him that I wasn't a coward for kill filing him,
>fine. Think that'll happen John?

There's always hope.
--
jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

dene

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Dec 17, 2007, 12:59:05 PM12/17/07
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"John van der Pflum" <nowhammy...@bite.org> wrote in message
news:i2adm3972pvdr957g...@4ax.com...

> >OK. When I'm told by him that I wasn't a coward for kill filing him,
> >fine. Think that'll happen John?
>
> There's always hope.

Sorry that I'm a little late to this one. BK is not a coward for plonking
me, if indeed he has. He's a coward for taking pot shots at me (see above)
while hiding behind a kill file. Big difference.

I assure you that my plonks will be thoroughly ignored, both ways.

Finally....you are absolutely right about self awareness. My views on a
variety of subjects have evolved through the years. It's called growth.
Those minds who haven't entertained a new thought in years have trouble with
that concept. The worse being extreme fundamentalist in religious circles.
They have life figured out and you're damned if you do adhere to it.

Me---->most of my beliefs are subject to review.

-Greg


dene

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Dec 17, 2007, 1:02:24 PM12/17/07
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"Tex" <markte...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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See...that made me laugh. More soup for you.

-Greg


Alan Baker

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Dec 17, 2007, 1:09:55 PM12/17/07
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In article <5smrjqF...@mid.individual.net>,
"dene" <de...@remove.ipns.com> wrote:

> I no sooner end my response to Baker and boom, he's posting his. I've seen
> this time and again. I can just picture him in his mum's basement, glued to
> usenet.

You need to stick to a story. Am I a silver spoon ski bum, or am I in my
mum's basement?

As for when I posted my response, it got posted when I read yours, which
was after I came home from dinner with my aunt, which was after I played
hockey.

>
> I laughed and then decided to completely ignore his responses. Ya
> know....give him the nomen treatment.
>
> Then I started thinking things through. With Ken gone, Larry rarely
> posting, how is Baker going to continue his schtick of picking stupid
> fights. Undoubtably, I'm in his crosshairs and if I play along, I'm going
> to be wasting time in ridiculous pissing matches with a silver spoon ski bum
> who cannot admit to anything obvious. More pertinent, what does he bring to
> the table in terms of golf or life in general? He's made one interesting
> thread about stack and tilt. That's it!!!! Rest have been Larry and Ken
> threads, ad nauseum.

"Crosshairs"? Please. You picked this fight. You called me a liar.

>
> Time for action. I recalled some advice Phlum gave me about an server
> called news.individual.net out of Germany. I googled it up, paid my 10
> Euros ($15) and now I'm off Google Groups for good.
>
> First one plonked. Alan Baker. Next one...Dave Jones, aka nomen. You
> think I'd plonk Tex but truth be told, he's entertaining, even downright
> funny, and I like his politics. So Tex stays. Al and not-so-brave-dave
> goes.
>
> I feel great. Nice to have control of my NG again.

And the very first thing you've done is to take potshots at me from
behind your kill filter...

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

Gordo

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Dec 17, 2007, 7:10:01 PM12/17/07
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"dene" <de...@remove.ipns.com> wrote in message
news:5smrjqF...@mid.individual.net...

I've judiciously used the kill file since I started reading from OE again.
Just put an imbecile in there this weekend and am enjoying RSG much more.
Like JDvP, I use it only when truly necessary. You'll enjoy this much more,
but now watch the guys who you've said that you've killfiled try to get you
to answer them! The games are starting.
>
>
>


dene

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Dec 17, 2007, 7:35:57 PM12/17/07
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"Gordo" <gol...@gmal.com> wrote in message
news:RhE9j.98$a52...@newsfe07.lga...

> I've judiciously used the kill file since I started reading from OE again.
> Just put an imbecile in there this weekend and am enjoying RSG much more.
> Like JDvP, I use it only when truly necessary. You'll enjoy this much
more,
> but now watch the guys who you've said that you've killfiled try to get
you
> to answer them! The games are starting.

Oh the games have begun. Al has used two anoms. and e-mail, trying to
bypass the plonk and engage me in a pissing match. Truth be told, I abhor
plonking, but Al is way OTT. He's certifiable. I should have done this
months ago.

-Greg

George Orwell

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Dec 17, 2007, 9:14:00 PM12/17/07
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In article <i2adm3972pvdr957g...@4ax.com>

John van der Pflum <nowhammy...@bite.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:39:40 GMT, Bobby Knight <bkn...@conramp.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:23:07 -0500, John van der Pflum
> ><nowhammy...@bite.org> wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:59:47 GMT, Bobby Knight <bkn...@conramp.net>
> >>wrote:
> >
> >>>Are you kidding? Please don't even suggest that Greg has become
> >>>"self-aware" and changed his mind about my kill filing him, or that he
> >>>will stop the skulking. Ain't happening.
> >>
> >>So, once one has taken a position on an issue it shall never change?
> >>
> >OK. When I'm told by him that I wasn't a coward for kill filing him,
> >fine. Think that'll happen John?
>
> There's always hope.
> --
> jvdp
> http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

yada yada yada....picky picky picky. Bunch of Yentas watching "The View" in their spare time. No wonder you can't even walk 18 holes.


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Dec 18, 2007, 12:37:01 AM12/18/07
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dene

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Dec 18, 2007, 1:39:39 AM12/18/07
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Make that 3 attempts through anoms.

Kinda sad.

-Greg

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Gordo

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"dene" <de...@remove.ipns.com> wrote in message
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> Make that 3 attempts through anoms.
>
> Kinda sad.
>
> -Greg

Yeah, I agree with that.


Tom Yost

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Dec 18, 2007, 2:43:44 PM12/18/07
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:47:47 -0500, John van der Pflum
<nowhammy...@bite.org> wrote:


>
>Plonking, used when necessary, has made RSG quite enjoyable for me.
>

John van der Pflonk

John van der Pflum

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Dec 18, 2007, 3:44:44 PM12/18/07
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Dude -- you need a hobby. Seriously. You need responding back to
every one of my posts.
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jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

Tom Yost

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Dec 18, 2007, 4:12:30 PM12/18/07
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:44:44 -0500, John van der Pflum
<nowhammy...@bite.org> wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:43:44 -0700, Tom Yost <t...@nospamme.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:47:47 -0500, John van der Pflum
>><nowhammy...@bite.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Plonking, used when necessary, has made RSG quite enjoyable for me.
>>>
>>
>>John van der Pflonk
>
>Dude -- you need a hobby. Seriously. You need responding back to
>every one of my posts.

This _is_ my hobby. Please don't Pflonk me.

Tom

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