Ryan Answers Two of the Charges.

KenPitts

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Sep 1, 2012, 9:21:58 PM9/1/12

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In 2008 Obama promised the plant would be open for 100 years. He gets elected and the plant is closed solid. If he can give large pieces of GM to the UAW by fiat, seems like he could open the doors on the plant in question.

Ken

Alan Baker

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Sep 1, 2012, 10:32:13 PM9/1/12

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In article <483dee75-4443-4992...@googlegroups.com>,
KenPitts <ken....@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.ijreview.com/2012/09/14667-unaired-unedited-paul-ryan-responds-to-d

> emocrats-charge-he-lied-during-rnc-speech/
>
> In 2008 Obama promised the plant would be open for 100 years. He gets elected
> and the plant is closed solid. If he can give large pieces of GM to the UAW
> by fiat, seems like he could open the doors on the plant in question.
>
> Ken

Have you got a quote for that 100 year promise, Ken?

The plant was "closed solid" for all intents and purposes before he was
elected, Ken.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

Kommienezuspadt

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Sep 1, 2012, 10:36:57 PM9/1/12

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"Alan Baker" wrote in message
news:alangbaker-8B4A3...@news.shawcable.net...

In article <483dee75-4443-4992...@googlegroups.com>,
KenPitts <ken....@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.ijreview.com/2012/09/14667-unaired-unedited-paul-ryan-responds-to-d
> emocrats-charge-he-lied-during-rnc-speech/
>
> In 2008 Obama promised the plant would be open for 100 years. He gets
> elected
> and the plant is closed solid. If he can give large pieces of GM to the
> UAW
> by fiat, seems like he could open the doors on the plant in question.
>
> Ken

Have you got a quote for that 100 year promise, Ken?

The plant was "closed solid" for all intents and purposes before he was
elected, Ken.

===================

Ryan lied about his time in a marathon -- I would bet he cheats at golf ---
but -- do we really need to know more about him after the marathon lie?

===================

KenPitts

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Sep 1, 2012, 10:42:51 PM9/1/12

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On Saturday, September 1, 2012 9:37:01 PM UTC-5, Kommienezuspadt wrote:
> "Alan Baker" wrote in message
>
> news:alangbaker-8B4A3...@news.shawcable.net...
>
>
>
> In article <483dee75-4443-4992...@googlegroups.com>,
>
> KenPitts <ken....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > http://www.ijreview.com/2012/09/14667-unaired-unedited-paul-ryan-responds-to-d
>
> > emocrats-charge-he-lied-during-rnc-speech/
>
> >
>
> > In 2008 Obama promised the plant would be open for 100 years. He gets
>
> > elected
>
> > and the plant is closed solid. If he can give large pieces of GM to the
>
> > UAW
>
> > by fiat, seems like he could open the doors on the plant in question.
>
> >
>
> > Ken
>
>
>
> Have you got a quote for that 100 year promise, Ken?
>
>
>
> The plant was "closed solid" for all intents and purposes before he was
>
> elected, Ken.
>
>
>
> ===================
>
>
>
> Ryan lied about his time in a marathon -- I would bet he cheats at golf ---
>
> but -- do we really need to know more about him after the marathon lie?
>
>
>
> ===================
>

I'd vote for Alec Baldwin and Michael Moore over what we have now.

How about Obama being an admitted coke user? You're OK with that?

Ken

Alan Baker

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Sep 1, 2012, 10:45:39 PM9/1/12

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In article <69707301-ad69-41eb...@googlegroups.com>,

Yup.

Lots of people used drug in their youths and have since grown up to be
completely responsible individuals. I'd rather have leader who admits
his past indiscretions over one who had them but lies about it.

Do you know Ryan didn't use cocaine? How: because he told you so? Well
we already know he's willing to lie about even small things, so how do
you believe him about larger things (if you think they really are
larger)?

KenPitts

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Sep 1, 2012, 10:55:14 PM9/1/12

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That was easy. I guess USA today is lying too.

Leftists are so much into being literal. The problem is that Obama promised the plant would be open for 100 yrs if the govt "helped". Doesn't matter if it was already closed when he took office. If he can give large pieces of GM to the UAW by fiat, he could open the doors on that plant.

Ken

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2012/08/fact-checking-ryans-claim-on-obama-gm-/1#.UD7XtJHAHjM

Alan Baker

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Sep 1, 2012, 10:57:58 PM9/1/12

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In article <514f9180-c649-4832...@googlegroups.com>,

You mean where it says this:

"What Ryan left out of the narrative: the detail that the plant stopped
production in December 2008, before Obama took office."

IOW, USA Today agrees with the basic truth that the plant stopped
production when the 1200 people were laid off.

You're not only a fanatic, Ken, you're also just not very good at
checking your facts.

KenPitts

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Sep 1, 2012, 11:02:12 PM9/1/12

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From the article:

"Obama did speak at the plant in February 2008, telling workers who had already faced layoffs that "if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years.""

Not only is Baker a worthless troll and a psychopath stalker, he apparently is unable to read standard English.

Ken

Alan Baker

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Sep 1, 2012, 11:09:23 PM9/1/12

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In article <32d8a24d-6de3-4f5a...@googlegroups.com>,

And the government wasn't there to assist them, because the plant closed
before Obama took office.

>
> Not only is Baker a worthless troll and a psychopath stalker, he apparently
> is unable to read standard English.

LOL

The lie Ryan told is that the plant closed after Obama had taken office,
when it did not. The plant closed and laid off 1200 line workers in
December 2008, and 57 workers finishing a contract with Isuzu and thus
working a few more months don't change that. If they do, then the plant
is still open today because of the care-taking staff employed there.

Kommienezuspadt

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Sep 1, 2012, 11:25:04 PM9/1/12

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=== nah --- I didn't think you'd want to take that one on --

Carbon

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Sep 1, 2012, 11:43:34 PM9/1/12

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On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 19:42:51 -0700, KenPitts wrote:

> How about Obama being an admitted coke user? You're OK with that?

Is that better than lying about it, like Bush and Clinton did?

KenPitts

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Sep 1, 2012, 11:45:14 PM9/1/12

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Cite your proof that W did anything worse than the famous DWI.

Roger Clinton ratted Slick out in the biography Partners in Power.

Ken

Alan Baker

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Sep 1, 2012, 11:49:59 PM9/1/12

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In article <44bd8682-b10f-448e...@googlegroups.com>,

KenPitts <ken....@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, September 1, 2012 10:43:35 PM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:
> > On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 19:42:51 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > How about Obama being an admitted coke user? You're OK with that?
> >
> >
> >
> > Is that better than lying about it, like Bush and Clinton did?
>
> Cite your proof that W did anything worse than the famous DWI.

So you really believe that a well-known partier such as Dubya never used
drugs?

LOL

>
> Roger Clinton ratted Slick out in the biography Partners in Power.
>
> Ken

Carbon

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Sep 1, 2012, 11:57:50 PM9/1/12

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On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 20:45:14 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
> On Saturday, September 1, 2012 10:43:35 PM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:
>> On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 19:42:51 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
>>
>>> How about Obama being an admitted coke user? You're OK with that?
>>
>> Is that better than lying about it, like Bush and Clinton did?
>
> Cite your proof that W did anything worse than the famous DWI.

"But you gotta understand, I want to be president, I want to lead. I
want to set -- Do you want your little kid to say, 'Hey daddy, President
Bush tried marijuana, I think I will?' " he said.

In a segment of the tapes played on ABC's "Good Morning America," Bush
says the same holds true for questions about cocaine use, which have
dogged him since the 2000 election.

"The cocaine thing, let me tell you my strategy on that," Bush said on
the tape. "Rather than saying no ... I think it's time for someone to
draw the line and look people in the eye and say, you know, 'I'm not
going to participate in ugly rumors about me and blame my opponent,' and
hold the line."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/02/21/bush.tapes/index.html

So he admits to marijuana. He has a strategy for dancing around the coke
issue. Be honest for once: if he had never done coke he would never have
had a "strategy".

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 9:59:03 AM9/2/12

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He didn't admit to either.

Ken

Carbon

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Sep 2, 2012, 11:37:05 AM9/2/12

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Per his stated strategy for ducking the issue.

http://goo.gl/zxOXu

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 11:40:06 AM9/2/12

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So, it's a big deal if W used drugs. But it is ignored that Obama was a routine pot smoker and that he used cocaine when he could "afford it". What a huge double standard in our media.

Ken

Carbon

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Sep 2, 2012, 11:55:04 AM9/2/12

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It's not the drugs. It's the lying (Clinton) and the endless tap-dancing
in order to avoid lying (Bush). How can you not see that?

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 11:56:00 AM9/2/12

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So, in your world of fantasy, it is not a big deal that POTUS is an admitted felon?

Ken

Carbon

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Sep 2, 2012, 12:01:01 PM9/2/12

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Earth to Ken: The last three Presidents at least have all used cocaine.
Only one of them has been honest about it.

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 12:05:58 PM9/2/12

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Provide your proof about W. All you have so far is speculation and extrapolation. The normal province of leftists like you.

So, you are saying Bush41 and Reagan used? You're crazier than I thought.

Go ahead and throw your vote away on the coke head Islamist. Florida is going with Romney.

Ken

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 12:20:51 PM9/2/12

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On Saturday, September 1, 2012 8:21:58 PM UTC-5, KenPitts wrote:

Regarding the Marathon time. Ryan has admitted his mis-statement. Was it intentional and a case of self-aggrandizement? Only Ryan knows for sure.

What else do you leftist lemmings have for us?

If this is the worst you have, then you have nothing. It is less than nothing when compared with felony possession of a controlled substance.

Ken

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/80554.html

Hollis2

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Sep 2, 2012, 12:25:40 PM9/2/12

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At the time Obama took office, the plant was still open. What's more, the
government, thanks to the bailout, was a majority owner of GM at the time.
If the government was there to assist them, they could have retooled the
plant and kept it open as Obama had said. Obama did not come through for
these GM workers. When the main production line was shut down is
irrelevant because after Obama took office, he could have made GM retool
the plant and start up a new production line as he promised.

Carbon

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Sep 2, 2012, 12:32:29 PM9/2/12

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I am saying Obama, Wubya and Clinton all used cocaine, yes. I don't have
evidence for Clinton, but trying to find someone of that generation who
didn't at least try it is like trying to find someone who didn't try
sex.

Wubya wouldn't have had a "strategy" for dealing with the cocaine
question if he had never tried it. He would simply have said he had
never used it. Has this somehow not occurred to you?

Carbon

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Sep 2, 2012, 12:33:48 PM9/2/12

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On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:20:51 -0700, KenPitts wrote:

> Regarding the Marathon time. Ryan has admitted his mis-statement. Was
> it intentional and a case of self-aggrandizement? Only Ryan knows for
> sure.

It wasn't a "mis-statement." It was a lie.

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 12:35:27 PM9/2/12

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We have Roger Clinton's first hand account of using with Slick from Partners in Power. More than we have for W.

I never tried hard drugs. I am in the same age group as W.

Ken

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 12:37:38 PM9/2/12

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Exactly. For 100 years. If he could give large parts of GM to the UAW, he could make good on this promise regarding one plant. Large SUVs still sell pretty well. And that was what this plant was about.

Ken

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 12:42:05 PM9/2/12

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Only Ryan knows for sure. You certainly don't know. I would be nervous as a whore in church under those klieg lights. I can certainly understand any uncorrected mis-statement in that realm.

I can even understand Obama speaking about "57 states". I'm sure you spin that one like crazy. Forgiveness for the Socialist Islamist, but none for the conservative. That is how you leftist lemmings roll.

Ken

William Clark

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Sep 2, 2012, 1:06:24 PM9/2/12

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In article <pan.2012.09...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>,

Agreed - anyone who has run a marathon knows EXACTLY what their time
was. It is indelibly etched onto your psyche :-)

William Clark

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Sep 2, 2012, 1:08:16 PM9/2/12

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In article <4tdch9x...@news.ezprovider.com>,

No, the plant had stopped operating during the Bush era. Calling a
skeleton staff of 57 maintenance people keeping a plant "open" is a lie
straight from the Ryan lexicon.

Carbon

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Sep 2, 2012, 1:21:02 PM9/2/12

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On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:42:05 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
> On Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:33:49 AM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:
>> On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:20:51 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
>>
>>> Regarding the Marathon time. Ryan has admitted his mis-statement.
>>> Was it intentional and a case of self-aggrandizement? Only Ryan
>>> knows for sure.
>>
>> It wasn't a "mis-statement." It was a lie.
>
> Only Ryan knows for sure. You certainly don't know.

Bullshit. I've run in marathons. After 26.2 miles you know your damned
time. He lied.

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:05:51 PM9/2/12

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Only Ryan knows for sure. You are so quick to attack because of the blackness of your leftist heart. No comment on Obama and the "57 states" deal? I'm sure you have all kinds of excuses.

Ken

Alan Baker

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:08:56 PM9/2/12

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In article <e6f27b2f-8885-41af...@googlegroups.com>,

Not if the felony is drug use, no. According to the common law, it
shouldn't be a crime, much less a felony.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia

Alan Baker

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:09:50 PM9/2/12

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In article <1d507610-38a6-49e4...@googlegroups.com>,

So have you used marijuana?

Alan Baker

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:11:09 PM9/2/12

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In article <4tdch9x...@news.ezprovider.com>,
"Hollis2" <a3a...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:

Again: if accept the position that "still open" means "some people still
working there", then it is "still open" today.

He never promised anyone that he would MAKE anyone do anything.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia

Alan Baker

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:12:01 PM9/2/12

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In article <clark-B73B38....@news.eternal-september.org>,

To be fair, they weren't just maintenance people. They were line workers
filling a contract with Isuzu for small to medium trucks.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:15:14 PM9/2/12

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On Saturday, September 1, 2012 8:21:58 PM UTC-5, KenPitts wrote:
> http://www.ijreview.com/2012/09/14667-unaired-unedited-paul-ryan-responds-to-democrats-charge-he-lied-during-rnc-speech/
>
>
>
> In 2008 Obama promised the plant would be open for 100 years. He gets elected and the plant is closed solid. If he can give large pieces of GM to the UAW by fiat, seems like he could open the doors on the plant in question.
>
>
>
> Ken

Here is one state where possession of any amount of cocaine is a felony. Obama has admitted he is a felon.

http://www.richardhornsby.com/crimes/drugs/possession-of-cocaine.html

Ken

Lloyd

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:15:23 PM9/2/12

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In article <alangbaker-1F473...@news.shawcable.net>,

Uh, you are both off on a tangent.

'felon' is a legal term. You cannot be a felon until you are convicted
of a felony.

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:17:00 PM9/2/12

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Obama has admitted to an act (possession of cocaine) that could get him convicted of a felony. Is that what we want to have as POTUS?

http://www.richardhornsby.com/crimes/drugs/possession-of-cocaine.html

Ken

Carbon

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:23:31 PM9/2/12

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On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 11:17:00 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
> On Sunday, September 2, 2012 1:15:24 PM UTC-5, Lloyd wrote:
>> In article <alangbaker-1F473...@news.shawcable.net>,
>> Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> wrote:
>>> In article <e6f27b2f-8885-41af...@googlegroups.com>,
>>> KenPitts <ken....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, in your world of fantasy, it is not a big deal that POTUS is an
>>>> admitted felon?
>>>

>>> Not if the felony is drug use, no. According to the common law, it
>>> shouldn't be a crime, much less a felony.
>>
>> Uh, you are both off on a tangent.
>>
>> 'felon' is a legal term. You cannot be a felon until you are
>> convicted of a felony.
>
> Obama has admitted to an act (possession of cocaine) that could get
> him convicted of a felony. Is that what we want to have as POTUS?
>
> http://www.richardhornsby.com/crimes/drugs/possession-of-cocaine.html

So you concede then that Obama is not an admitted felon... right?

Lloyd

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:25:07 PM9/2/12

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In article <743ca220-3db1-4741...@googlegroups.com>,

woulda, coulda, shoulda - all means nothing! He isn't a felon.

As to who I want for President, well I'm not happy with either pick
these days, but there is that old 'devil you know' idea running around
in my head.

As to what someone did in their youth, who gives a rat's ass? That's
why we have a youth, to get the stupid shit out of the way! :)

But I know you'll just bring up some more self-righteous crap. And for
all those posts you've made over the last few days. All I can say is
I'm glad my life is not so boring that I have nothing better to do than
look for the cheap shots.

One of the big reasons we have such pathetic people running for many
offices is all this 'look up their asses' attitude when looking at them.
As if the looker or posters that follow them have led such perfect
lives. Perfect assholes is more like it.

Lloyd

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:25:38 PM9/2/12

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In article <e85279ad-6063-4b07...@googlegroups.com>,

No dumbass, he isn't a felon.

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:29:08 PM9/2/12

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I admit that Obama admitted he did something (had cocaine in his possession) that could get him convicted of a felony. It appears that Obama could do anything and you would be OK with it.

How about bowing and scraping to Saudi crooks? Is that OK with you? There are pictures. That right there should be enough for him to have to resign. But not with lemmings like you.

Ken

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:31:27 PM9/2/12

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Liberals chase after W all the time about his supposed use of cocaine. I guess you have a problem there also. Obama admitted his usage and possession. Not what I want as POTUS. Obama was never in charge of anything going in. He still is one ridiculous mistake after another. He needs to be outta here.

Ken

Carbon

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:37:15 PM9/2/12

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On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 11:05:51 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
> On Sunday, September 2, 2012 12:21:03 PM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:
>> On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:42:05 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
>>> On Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:33:49 AM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:20:51 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Regarding the Marathon time. Ryan has admitted his mis-statement.
>>>>> Was it intentional and a case of self-aggrandizement? Only Ryan
>>>>> knows for sure.
>>>>
>>>> It wasn't a "mis-statement." It was a lie.
>>>
>>> Only Ryan knows for sure. You certainly don't know.
>>
>> Bullshit. I've run in marathons. After 26.2 miles you know your
>> damned time. He lied.
>
> Only Ryan knows for sure.

Everybody knows. You obviously have not done much distance running. In a
marathon, the miles slide past and the whole time you're in this tunnel,
mentally computing your time per mile and expected finish time.
Everybody does it. There's not much else to do, except run.

There is NO FUCKING WAY Ryan forgot his time. None. Zero. He lied.

"H[ugh] H[ewitt]: Are you still running?

P[aul] R[yan]: Yeah, I hurt a disc in my back, so I don't run marathons
anymore. I just run ten miles or yes.

HH: But you did run marathons at some point?

PR: Yeah, but I can't do it anymore, because my back is just not that
great.

HH: I've just gotta ask, what's your personal best?

PR: Under three, high twos. I had a two hour and fifty-something.

http://goo.gl/IYpeM

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:37:20 PM9/2/12

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Obama's too busy playing golf to reach out to the families of fallen SEALs. W never failed to comfort these people in their time of loss. A real CinC. BTW, Obama hasn't been to Louisiana yet. W was ripped for the nature of his response. Another free pass for Obama from our media and the fellow travelers on the left.

Ken

http://dustinstockton.com/2012/08/obama-send-autopenned-form-letters-to-families-of-fallen-seals-in-between-rounds-of-golf/

Carbon

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:40:30 PM9/2/12

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On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 11:15:14 -0700, KenPitts wrote:

> Here is one state where possession of any amount of cocaine is a
> felony. Obama has admitted he is a felon.

If Obama had been convicted of cocaine possession, then he would be a
felon. Otherwise he is just one of the millions of Americans who have
used drugs recreationally who did not get caught. Including, I'm
guessing, you.

Carbon

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:42:31 PM9/2/12

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On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 11:29:08 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
> On Sunday, September 2, 2012 1:23:32 PM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:
>> On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 11:17:00 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
>>> On Sunday, September 2, 2012 1:15:24 PM UTC-5, Lloyd wrote:
>>>> In article <alangbaker-1F473...@news.shawcable.net>,
>>>> Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> wrote:
>>>>> In article
>>>>> <e6f27b2f-8885-41af...@googlegroups.com>, KenPitts
>>>>> <ken....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So, in your world of fantasy, it is not a big deal that POTUS is
>>>>>> an admitted felon?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not if the felony is drug use, no. According to the common law, it
>>>>> shouldn't be a crime, much less a felony.
>>>>
>>>> Uh, you are both off on a tangent.
>>>>
>>>> 'felon' is a legal term. You cannot be a felon until you are
>>>> convicted of a felony.
>>>
>>> Obama has admitted to an act (possession of cocaine) that could get
>>> him convicted of a felony. Is that what we want to have as POTUS?
>>>
>>> http://www.richardhornsby.com/crimes/drugs/possession-of-cocaine.html
>>
>> So you concede then that Obama is not an admitted felon... right?
>
> I admit that Obama admitted he did something (had cocaine in his
> possession) that could get him convicted of a felony.

So you were wrong to claim Obama was an admitted felon... right?

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:43:10 PM9/2/12

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Wrong guy here. I'm sure you are a user since you are so ready to make excuses.

Ken

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:44:21 PM9/2/12

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No, that is not right.

Ken

Carbon

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:45:57 PM9/2/12

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You're now saying you've never once tried drugs. Are you sure about
that?

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:46:36 PM9/2/12

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So, you have nothing to say about Obama and his remark about there being 57 states in the US? He was probably high when he said it. Right?

Ken

Carbon

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:48:26 PM9/2/12

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Ken. He can't be a felon because he was never convicted of anything. You
fucked up and you can't bring yourself to admit it.

KenPitts

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I didn't f anything up. I am not a lawyer. Obama admitted he did something that would get him convicted of a felony. You attack me to deflect blame from your dear leader. He is so outta here. Time for the adults to give it a try.

What about Obama's comment about "57 states"? Let's see you tap dance around that.

Ken

Carbon

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:52:32 PM9/2/12

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What does that have to do with your bogus claim that Obama is an
admitted felon?

Carbon

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:55:26 PM9/2/12

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Does that make him an admitted felon? Yes or no.

KenPitts

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You're splitting hairs. The important thing is that Obama admitted that he has been and probably still is a cocaine user. Possession of any amount of cocaine is a felony. Clearly Hussein could do anything and you would be OK with it.

You would attack me on anything. I am a good person and you are a worthless piece of shit just like Alan Baker.

Ken

John B.

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:56:37 PM9/2/12

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On Sep 1, 10:55 pm, KenPitts <ken.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, September 1, 2012 8:21:58 PM UTC-5, KenPitts wrote:

> >http://www.ijreview.com/2012/09/14667-unaired-unedited-paul-ryan-resp...

>
> > In 2008 Obama promised the plant would be open for 100 years. He gets elected and the plant is closed solid. If he can give large pieces of GM to the UAW by fiat, seems like he could open the doors on the plant in question.
>
> > Ken
>

> That was easy. I guess USA today is lying too.
>

> Leftists are so much into being literal. The problem is that Obama promised the plant would be open for 100 yrs if the govt "helped". Doesn't matter if it was already closed when he took office. If he can give large pieces of GM to the UAW by fiat, he could open the doors on that plant.
>
> Ken
>
> http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2012/08/fact-...

That's called a prediction, not a promise. Too bad you're not smart
enough to understand the difference.

John B.

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:58:50 PM9/2/12

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On Sep 2, 9:59 am, KenPitts <ken.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, September 1, 2012 10:57:50 PM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:
> > On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 20:45:14 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
>
> > > On Saturday, September 1, 2012 10:43:35 PM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:
>
> > >> On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 19:42:51 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
>
> > >>> How about Obama being an admitted coke user? You're OK with that?
>
> > >> Is that better than lying about it, like Bush and Clinton did?
>
> > > Cite your proof that W did anything worse than the famous DWI.
>
> > "But you gotta understand, I want to be president, I want to lead. I
>
> > want to set -- Do you want your little kid to say, 'Hey daddy, President
>
> > Bush tried marijuana, I think I will?' " he said.
>
> > In a segment of the tapes played on ABC's "Good Morning America," Bush
>
> > says the same holds true for questions about cocaine use, which have
>
> > dogged him since the 2000 election.
>
> > "The cocaine thing, let me tell you my strategy on that," Bush said on
>
> > the tape. "Rather than saying no ... I think it's time for someone to
>
> > draw the line and look people in the eye and say, you know, 'I'm not
>
> > going to participate in ugly rumors about me and blame my opponent,' and
>
> > hold the line."
>
> >http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/02/21/bush.tapes/index.html
>
> > So he admits to marijuana. He has a strategy for dancing around the coke
>
> > issue. Be honest for once: if he had never done coke he would never have
>
> > had a "strategy".
>
> He didn't admit to either.
>

> Ken

If he had never used cocaine, he would have said he never used cocaine.

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 2:58:52 PM9/2/12

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I'm smarter than 100 of you.

Ken

John B.

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Sep 2, 2012, 3:05:58 PM9/2/12

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On Sep 2, 2:05 pm, KenPitts <ken.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, September 2, 2012 12:21:03 PM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:
> > On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:42:05 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
>
> > > On Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:33:49 AM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:
>
> > >> On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:20:51 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
>
> > >>> Regarding the Marathon time. Ryan has admitted his mis-statement.
>
> > >>> Was it intentional and a case of self-aggrandizement? Only Ryan
>
> > >>> knows for sure.
>
> > >> It wasn't a "mis-statement." It was a lie.
>
> > > Only Ryan knows for sure. You certainly don't know.
>
> > Bullshit. I've run in marathons. After 26.2 miles you know your damned
>
> > time. He lied.
>

> Only Ryan knows for sure. You are so quick to attack because of the blackness of your leftist heart. No comment on Obama and the "57 states" deal? I'm sure you have all kinds of excuses.
>
> Ken

Wrong (just like everything else you say). The organizers of the
marathon he ran have finishing times for all runners. The NY Marathon
results for all runners are printed in the NY Times. I've run two
marathons and I know exactly what my times were. Ryan finished in four
hours-plus and said he ran a sub-3 hour marathon. He lied. Period.

Carbon

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Sep 2, 2012, 3:08:03 PM9/2/12

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Look. Just stop. An admitted felon is someone who admits to having been
convicted of a felony. Since Obama was never convicted of a felony, he
cannot possibly be an admitted felon.

QED.

Alan Baker

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Sep 2, 2012, 3:52:18 PM9/2/12

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In article <04f9db0f-fc33-42fe...@googlegroups.com>,

You've never used any recreational drug, Ken?

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

Alan Baker

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Sep 2, 2012, 3:52:46 PM9/2/12

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In article <pan.2012.09...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>,

Funny that he wrote in another post that he'd never tried "hard drugs"...

Alan Baker

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Sep 2, 2012, 3:54:01 PM9/2/12

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In article <adb9f95a-5de8-4d6b...@googlegroups.com>,

Bowing to another head of state should be cause for concern of any kind?

1. Way to deflect from the topic at hand one more level.

2. You really need to get some help with your obsessions.

Alan Baker

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Sep 2, 2012, 3:55:03 PM9/2/12

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In article <cf89968b-1b9a-40f4...@googlegroups.com>,

What does this make... ...the third, fourth deflection?

Ryan was and is a liar, Ken.

Alan Baker

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Sep 2, 2012, 3:56:13 PM9/2/12

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In article <c2f69c79-4b74-477f...@googlegroups.com>,

Wait a sec! Another deflection and hidden lie:

Where has Obama "admitted that he [] probably still is a cocaine user",
Ken?

>
> You would attack me on anything. I am a good person and you are a worthless
> piece of shit just like Alan Baker.

A good person who calls others "worthless piece of shit" of course.

:-)

Alan Baker

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Sep 2, 2012, 3:57:44 PM9/2/12

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In article <74bc4dbe-cbe9-4e92...@googlegroups.com>,

How deflections does this make now: 5... ...6...

...or have you just lost count completely?

Alan Baker

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Sep 2, 2012, 3:59:13 PM9/2/12

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In article
<dbc3d92a-30d9-4926...@u19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,

Yup.

Instead it was all tap dancing:

"I would pass a Clinton test", "I would pass a [?] test".

All those say is that he claims he hadn't used in 15 years.

Carbon

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Sep 2, 2012, 4:12:24 PM9/2/12

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On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 11:29:08 -0700, KenPitts wrote:

> How about bowing and scraping to Saudi crooks? Is that OK with you?
> There are pictures.

Do you mean these pictures?

http://goo.gl/GJacD

Alan Baker

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Sep 2, 2012, 4:26:57 PM9/2/12

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In article <pan.2012.09...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>,
Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

Dubya was kissing Suadi crooks!?!??? Say it isn't so!

Was he slipping them a little tongue do you think? Please tell me it was
only in the mouth.

;-)

kommienezuspadt

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Sep 2, 2012, 5:35:16 PM9/2/12

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"KenPitts" wrote in message
news:743ca220-3db1-4741...@googlegroups.com...

On Sunday, September 2, 2012 1:15:24 PM UTC-5, Lloyd wrote:
> In article <alangbaker-1F473...@news.shawcable.net>,
>
> Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article <e6f27b2f-8885-41af...@googlegroups.com>,
>
> > KenPitts <ken....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > On Sunday, September 2, 2012 10:55:05 AM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:
>
> > > > On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 08:40:06 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
>
> > > >
>

> > > > > On Sunday, September 2, 2012 10:37:05 AM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:

> > > > >> Per his stated strategy for ducking the issue.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > >>
>
> > > >
>
> > > > >> http://goo.gl/zxOXu
>
> > > >
>
> > > > >
>
> > > >
>
> > > > > So, it's a big deal if W used drugs. But it is ignored that Obama
> > > > > was
>
> > > >
>
> > > > > a routine pot smoker and that he used cocaine when he could
> > > > > "afford
>
> > > >
>
> > > > > it". What a huge double standard in our media.
>
> > > >
>
> > > >
>
> > > >
>
> > > > It's not the drugs. It's the lying (Clinton) and the endless
> > > > tap-dancing
>
> > > >
>
> > > > in order to avoid lying (Bush). How can you not see that?
>
> > >
>
> > > So, in your world of fantasy, it is not a big deal that POTUS is an
>
> > > admitted
>
> > > felon?
>
> > >
>
> > > Ken
>
> >
>
> > Not if the felony is drug use, no. According to the common law, it
>
> > shouldn't be a crime, much less a felony.
>
>
>
> Uh, you are both off on a tangent.
>
>
>
> 'felon' is a legal term. You cannot be a felon until you are convicted
>
> of a felony.

Obama has admitted to an act (possession of cocaine) that could get him
convicted of a felony. Is that what we want to have as POTUS?

http://www.richardhornsby.com/crimes/drugs/possession-of-cocaine.html

Ken

====

but you will support someone so ingrained with lies that he even lies about
his flipping marathon time & then lies when he tries to answer being called
about the lie.

kommienezuspadt

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"KenPitts" wrote in message
news:b3c4167c-de85-4f23...@googlegroups.com...

====

the adults that lie about their time in a marathon? Get real ----

====

What about Obama's comment about "57 states"? Let's see you tap dance around
that.

===

Try to see how many votes that slip will get you

Ken

kommienezuspadt

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Sep 2, 2012, 5:40:42 PM9/2/12

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"Alan Baker" wrote in message
news:alangbaker-AF58D...@news.shawcable.net...

===

Ken has very little to work with --- kind of sad to see him try to deflect
that Ryan is so desperate to make up stuff like his time in a marathon.

===

bkn...@conramp.net

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Sep 2, 2012, 5:48:25 PM9/2/12

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On 02 Sep 2012 19:08:03 GMT, Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>

Carbon,
Why in the world do you keep responding to the same regurgitated crap
that Ken writes? The mainstay of his information toay is National
Revue and Twitchy, both loaded with shit that no one buys except the
lame brains like him. There's no way that you can shake him with
logic or truth, he's dead set in passing on bullshit like the "57
states" mistake and something that Obama did over thirty years ago.
He's in a state of permanent confusion and you aren't going to get him
to admit to it.

Kill file the toady.

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 5:59:13 PM9/2/12

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Only Ryan knows what went into that statement. You and Carbon certainly do not.

I would vote for anyone ahead of Obama and Biden. Barbra Streisand, Michael Moore, Alec Baldwin. Roseanne Barr. Is she still running?

Ken

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 6:00:07 PM9/2/12

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No, numbskull. Obama. Those kisses on the cheek are standard polite greeting in their culture. My father in law does it all the time with me. Was W bowing from the waist like Hussein. Once he is out of office, he can bow all he wants. As POTUS, it is a disgrace.

Ken

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=obama+bowing+to+saudi+king&qpvt=obama+bowing+to+saudi+king&FORM=IGRE

KenPitts

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Grandpa Bobby attacking me and calling me names again. What a surprise.

Ken

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 6:08:45 PM9/2/12

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On Sunday, September 2, 2012 4:35:18 PM UTC-5, kommienezuspadt wrote:

How about Obama admitting to felony possession and use of cocaine? It was in one of his autobiographies. You probably have no problem with that. How about Obama not releasing his academic records? I think there are real problems there. But you get all worked up over this mis-statement of Ryan's time in a marathon. Is that all you have? Then you don't have much.

Also, Romney has given so much of his time and his money. Obama and Biden have given next to nothing. Yet who gets portrayed as selfish and hateful?

http://moneyland.time.com/2012/01/26/give-romney-a-break-his-charitable-giving-offsets-his-low-tax-rate/

Ken

Alan Baker

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Sep 2, 2012, 6:19:25 PM9/2/12

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In article <142b32fc-8801-4909...@googlegroups.com>,

You call people names all the time, Ken.

Just another example of your "one rule for thee and another for me"
hypocrisy.

Alan Baker

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Sep 2, 2012, 6:21:24 PM9/2/12

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In article <d3fc51c1-bee9-4419...@googlegroups.com>,

" Grandpa [Ken] attacking [someone] and calling [someone] names again.
What a surprise."

Carbon

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Sep 2, 2012, 7:16:14 PM9/2/12

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I know all that. I find the contortions amusing.

Carbon

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Sep 2, 2012, 7:25:45 PM9/2/12

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On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 15:00:07 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
> On Sunday, September 2, 2012 3:12:25 PM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:
>> On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 11:29:08 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
>>
>> > How about bowing and scraping to Saudi crooks? Is that OK with you?
>> > There are pictures.
>>
>> Do you mean these pictures?
>>
>>
>> http://goo.gl/GJacD
>
> No, numbskull. Obama. Those kisses on the cheek are standard polite
> greeting in their culture. My father in law does it all the time with
> me. Was W bowing from the waist like Hussein. Once he is out of
> office, he can bow all he wants. As POTUS, it is a disgrace.

So smooching and holding hands is A-OK if you're a Republican but bowing
is a disgrace if you're a Democrat. I gotta tell you that's a little bit
confusing. Anyway, you seem to be a self-styled expert on such matters.
What is the etiquette on tongue action?

bkn...@conramp.net

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Sep 2, 2012, 7:26:16 PM9/2/12

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On 02 Sep 2012 23:16:14 GMT, Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>
wrote:

H
J He actually thinks that he's making points. Sad in a way. Notice
that he's out there alone with all of this latest BS.

Carbon

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Sep 2, 2012, 7:34:16 PM9/2/12

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Wrong again. Here is what Ryan said when asked about his personal best
time:

PR: Under three, high twos. I had a two hour and fifty-something.

This isn't just a slip. It was a lie.

Carbon

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Sep 2, 2012, 7:53:20 PM9/2/12

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On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 18:26:16 -0500, bknight wrote:
> On 02 Sep 2012 23:16:14 GMT, Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>
> wrote:
>> On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 16:48:25 -0500, bknight wrote:
>>
>>> Carbon, Why in the world do you keep responding to the same
>>> regurgitated crap that Ken writes? The mainstay of his information
>>> toay is National Revue and Twitchy, both loaded with shit that no
>>> one buys except the lame brains like him. There's no way that you
>>> can shake him with logic or truth, he's dead set in passing on
>>> bullshit like the "57 states" mistake and something that Obama did
>>> over thirty years ago. He's in a state of permanent confusion and
>>> you aren't going to get him to admit to it.
>>
>> I know all that. I find the contortions amusing.
>

> He actually thinks that he's making points. Sad in a way. Notice
> that he's out there alone with all of this latest BS.

The loons never seem to realize they're the ones with the problem...

http://goo.gl/BxVXj

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 7:55:20 PM9/2/12

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You can tongue my big fat butt.

Has nothing to do with party. I know about this because I married into the culture. I didn't care for W being so cozy with these clowns either. But at least this is normal behavior. This bowing from the waist is shocking in any culture. You would defend Obama no matter what he does. He could be like Jerry Sandusky and you're be bleating that pedophilia is normal and i am a racist for raising objections.

POTUS should never bow to any foreign leader. Obama usually has nose way in the air. I guess he brings that out for Bebe Netanyahu.

Ken

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 7:59:12 PM9/2/12

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More off target slander. I would never lift a finger to any woman.

Obama is toast. Reagan was 9 points down at this juncture in 1980 and he cleaned up on Carter. Since you are so confident, how about another $100 on the election? It will give you some time to save your lunch money.

Ken

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 8:10:55 PM9/2/12

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Only Ryan knows if it was a lie or if he engaged his mouth before his brain. His mistake was not correcting it immediately. Maybe just completing the marathon at all was what was important to him.

Clinton regularly lied about his ability at golf. All the time. But, a leftist gets free passes on this kind of stuff. I read an account of one of his rounds. He was claiming an 82. Someone who was there said it was more like 100. Mulligans all over the place.

Is this all you have? You want to continue with trillion dollar deficits over one slip of the tongue?

Ken

Alan Baker

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Sep 2, 2012, 8:18:19 PM9/2/12

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In article <18d4f5d8-1edb-49f8...@googlegroups.com>,

For a guy who claims to be "married into the culture", it's hilarious to
learn you don't know that a bow is part of a normal arab greeting: the
salaam.

<http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_another_name_for_an_Arabic_bow>

>
> POTUS should never bow to any foreign leader. Obama usually has nose way in
> the air. I guess he brings that out for Bebe Netanyahu.

Ah, that lovely American humility.

Alan Baker

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Sep 2, 2012, 8:19:14 PM9/2/12

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In article <69cb0f00-54ee-41ad...@googlegroups.com>,

But you're completely willing to believe whatever lie he tells, right
Ken?

Alan Baker

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Sep 2, 2012, 8:27:45 PM9/2/12

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In article <473837e9-63d8-4484...@googlegroups.com>,

KenPitts <ken....@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, September 2, 2012 6:53:20 PM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:
> > On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 18:26:16 -0500, bknight wrote:
> >
> > > On 02 Sep 2012 23:16:14 GMT, Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>
> >
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >> On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 16:48:25 -0500, bknight wrote:
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>> Carbon, Why in the world do you keep responding to the same
> >
> > >>> regurgitated crap that Ken writes? The mainstay of his information
> >
> > >>> toay is National Revue and Twitchy, both loaded with shit that no
> >
> > >>> one buys except the lame brains like him. There's no way that you
> >
> > >>> can shake him with logic or truth, he's dead set in passing on
> >
> > >>> bullshit like the "57 states" mistake and something that Obama did
> >
> > >>> over thirty years ago. He's in a state of permanent confusion and
> >
> > >>> you aren't going to get him to admit to it.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >> I know all that. I find the contortions amusing.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > He actually thinks that he's making points. Sad in a way. Notice
> >
> > > that he's out there alone with all of this latest BS.
> >
> >
> >
> > The loons never seem to realize they're the ones with the problem...
> >
> >
> >
> > http://goo.gl/BxVXj
>
> More off target slander. I would never lift a finger to any woman.

I see, when you call out bad behaviour and call it "typical liberal",
that's fine--even though there are people here you claim are liberals...

...but when someone does the same to you, that's "off target slander".

Here's some absolutely on-target truth: you're a hypocrite and the worst
whiner I've ever seen. You love to dish it out, but you cry like a
little child when you get anything back; no matter how obliquely.

:-)

Alan Baker

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Sep 2, 2012, 8:28:47 PM9/2/12

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In article <e85279ad-6063-4b07...@googlegroups.com>,
KenPitts <ken....@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, September 1, 2012 8:21:58 PM UTC-5, KenPitts wrote:
> > http://www.ijreview.com/2012/09/14667-unaired-unedited-paul-ryan-responds-to
> > -democrats-charge-he-lied-during-rnc-speech/
> >
> >
> >
> > In 2008 Obama promised the plant would be open for 100 years. He gets
> > elected and the plant is closed solid. If he can give large pieces of GM to
> > the UAW by fiat, seems like he could open the doors on the plant in
> > question.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ken
>
> Here is one state where possession of any amount of cocaine is a felony.
> Obama has admitted he is a felon.
>
> http://www.richardhornsby.com/crimes/drugs/possession-of-cocaine.html
>
> Ken

And was Obama in that state when he used cocaine?

Oooh, logic.

Now cry about how mean I'm being by pointing out that you don't have any.

Alan Baker

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Sep 2, 2012, 8:32:25 PM9/2/12

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In article <c7c75b35-bb4d-49f5...@googlegroups.com>,
KenPitts <ken....@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, September 2, 2012 12:21:03 PM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:
> > On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:42:05 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
> >
> > > On Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:33:49 AM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:
> >
> > >> On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:20:51 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >>> Regarding the Marathon time. Ryan has admitted his mis-statement.
> >
> > >>> Was it intentional and a case of self-aggrandizement? Only Ryan
> >
> > >>> knows for sure.
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >> It wasn't a "mis-statement." It was a lie.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Only Ryan knows for sure. You certainly don't know.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bullshit. I've run in marathons. After 26.2 miles you know your damned
> >
> > time. He lied.
>
> Only Ryan knows for sure. You are so quick to attack because of the blackness
> of your leftist heart. No comment on Obama and the "57 states" deal? I'm sure
> you have all kinds of excuses.

"More off target slander"...

Carbon

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Sep 2, 2012, 8:39:13 PM9/2/12

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On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 17:10:55 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
> On Sunday, September 2, 2012 6:34:18 PM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:
>> On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 14:59:13 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
>>> On Sunday, September 2, 2012 4:35:18 PM UTC-5, kommienezuspadt
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> but you will support someone so ingrained with lies that he even
>>>> lies about his flipping marathon time & then lies when he tries to
>>>> answer being called about the lie.
>>>
>>> Only Ryan knows what went into that statement. You and Carbon
>>> certainly do not.
>>
>> Wrong again. Here is what Ryan said when asked about his personal
>> best time:
>>
>> PR: Under three, high twos. I had a two hour and fifty-something.
>>
>> This isn't just a slip. It was a lie.
>
> Only Ryan knows if it was a lie or if he engaged his mouth before his
> brain.

Bullshit. This wasn't just a slip. It was two sentences. He lied.

I've run in marathons. You do not. Forget. Your time.

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 8:44:51 PM9/2/12

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So. Marathon man. You want that second $100 bet? I'm thinking you can talk it but not walk it. Ball is in your court.

Ken

KenPitts

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Sep 2, 2012, 8:58:40 PM9/2/12

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I'm going to hit balls. I'll look for my answer when I get back. I'll take Romney for $100, big mouth. Maybe you need to ask your wife for permission.

Ken

Alan Baker

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Sep 2, 2012, 8:59:41 PM9/2/12

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In article <6c58765d-d6a8-4202...@googlegroups.com>,

KenPitts <ken....@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > Only Ryan knows if it was a lie or if he engaged his mouth before his
> >
> > > brain.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bullshit. This wasn't just a slip. It was two sentences. He lied.
> >
> >
> >
> > I've run in marathons. You do not. Forget. Your time.
>
> So. Marathon man. You want that second $100 bet? I'm thinking you can talk it
> but not walk it. Ball is in your court.
>
> Ken

And when pressed...

Ken changes the subject!

Carbon

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Sep 2, 2012, 9:14:31 PM9/2/12

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> I'm going to hit balls. I'll look for my answer when I get back. I'll
> take Romney for $100, big mouth. Maybe you need to ask your wife for
> permission.

I'm glad you've finally given up trying to defend Ryan's lie. You
weren't doing a very good job of it anyway.

Hollis2

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Sep 2, 2012, 9:52:13 PM9/2/12

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On Sep 2 2012 2:40 PM, Carbon wrote:

> On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 11:15:14 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
>
> > Here is one state where possession of any amount of cocaine is a
> > felony. Obama has admitted he is a felon.
>

> If Obama had been convicted of cocaine possession, then he would be a
> felon. Otherwise he is just one of the millions of Americans who have
> used drugs recreationally who did not get caught. Including, I'm
> guessing, you.

Possession of cocaine is a crime. I don't know the specific requirements
for felony possession of cocaine in Hawaii at the time Obama used drugs,
or if he met those requirements. If he did, then he was committing a
felony. The fact that you didn't get caught, doesn't mean that you didn't
commit a crime.

That being said, its' a non-issue in my book.