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kenpitts
Apr 2, 2012, 4:00:07 PM4/2/12
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Should we really be surprised? The intent was to incite racial
tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest of
their bias.
http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
Ken
tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest of
their bias.
http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
Ken
Alan Baker
Apr 2, 2012, 4:55:55 PM4/2/12
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In article
<db42f78b-3830-4ab2...@s7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Yup.
NBC shouldn't have done that.
Next.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
<db42f78b-3830-4ab2...@s7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
NBC shouldn't have done that.
Next.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
Moderate
Apr 2, 2012, 5:25:34 PM4/2/12
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bkn...@conramp.net
Apr 2, 2012, 6:43:17 PM4/2/12
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On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 13:00:07 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken....@gmail.com>
wrote:
Unfortunately Ken I'm beginning to see the bias in you that others
have tried to point out. Please don't send me another personal email.
wrote:
have tried to point out. Please don't send me another personal email.
kenpitts
Apr 2, 2012, 6:49:38 PM4/2/12
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On Apr 2, 5:43 pm, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 13:00:07 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
actually said?
Ken
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 13:00:07 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Should we really be surprised? The intent was to incite racial
> >tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest of
> >their bias.
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
>
> >Ken
>
> Unfortunately Ken I'm beginning to see the bias in you that others
> have tried to point out. Please don't send me another personal email.
Whatever. Did you read what NBC reported versus what Zimmerman
>
> >Should we really be surprised? The intent was to incite racial
> >tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest of
> >their bias.
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
>
> >Ken
>
> Unfortunately Ken I'm beginning to see the bias in you that others
> have tried to point out. Please don't send me another personal email.
actually said?
Ken
Alan Baker
Apr 2, 2012, 7:01:53 PM4/2/12
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In article
<293a77e5-c55d-4703...@z5g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
See, folks: that's Ken's respect for other people in a nutshell.
"Whatever."
<293a77e5-c55d-4703...@z5g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
"Whatever."
kenpitts
Apr 2, 2012, 7:23:26 PM4/2/12
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On Apr 2, 6:01 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> In article
> <293a77e5-c55d-4703-878c-d98ff824a...@z5g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
Baker. What goes around comes around. Bobby has been treating me
unfairly for some time now. I won't miss him in the least. I thought
he was my friend. I was wrong. I thought Bellomy was my friend. I was
wrong. You and Bobby have a great time together bashing me. You have
never treated me fairly. So back you go in to your box.
Keep it up and I will report you to Vancouver PD. The letter is
written and ready.
Ken
> In article
> <293a77e5-c55d-4703-878c-d98ff824a...@z5g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
unfairly for some time now. I won't miss him in the least. I thought
he was my friend. I was wrong. I thought Bellomy was my friend. I was
wrong. You and Bobby have a great time together bashing me. You have
never treated me fairly. So back you go in to your box.
Keep it up and I will report you to Vancouver PD. The letter is
written and ready.
Ken
Alan Baker
Apr 2, 2012, 7:28:31 PM4/2/12
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In article
<c3d2d759-3b16-4b0f...@h20g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
I've treated you with all the respect and fairness you give others, Ken.
:-)
>
> Keep it up and I will report you to Vancouver PD. The letter is
> written and ready.
>
> Ken
Keep what up, Ken: calling you out for a jackass on a newsgroup?
<c3d2d759-3b16-4b0f...@h20g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
:-)
>
> Keep it up and I will report you to Vancouver PD. The letter is
> written and ready.
>
> Ken
bkn...@conramp.net
Apr 2, 2012, 7:38:19 PM4/2/12
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On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:23:26 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken....@gmail.com>
wrote:
How have I treated you unfairly? I tried to make peace between you
and Bellomy but he would have none of it. Not my fault.
Where have I ever bashed you? I do see that you are very biased, but
that doesn't make you a bad person. There are a lot of people who
have no problem with blacks that they know. My parents were in that
group. However they had that bias about "them".. those with whom they
didn't have a personal connection. I find that to be a regular
occurrence.
Sorry that you feel that you've been bashed, but that is patently
untrue.
wrote:
and Bellomy but he would have none of it. Not my fault.
Where have I ever bashed you? I do see that you are very biased, but
that doesn't make you a bad person. There are a lot of people who
have no problem with blacks that they know. My parents were in that
group. However they had that bias about "them".. those with whom they
didn't have a personal connection. I find that to be a regular
occurrence.
Sorry that you feel that you've been bashed, but that is patently
untrue.
Alan Baker
Apr 2, 2012, 7:40:13 PM4/2/12
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In article <gfdkn79mbrsue6tov...@4ax.com>,
"bashing"...
bkn...@conramp.net wrote:
> >> > > Unfortunately Ken I'm beginning to see the bias in you that others
> >> > > have tried to point out. Please don't send me another personal email.
> >>
> >> > Whatever. Did you read what NBC reported versus what Zimmerman
> >> > actually said?
> >>
> >> > Ken
> >>
> >> See, folks: that's Ken's respect for other people in a nutshell.
> >>
> >> "Whatever."
> >>
> >
> >> > > Unfortunately Ken I'm beginning to see the bias in you that others
> >> > > have tried to point out. Please don't send me another personal email.
> >>
> >> > Whatever. Did you read what NBC reported versus what Zimmerman
> >> > actually said?
> >>
> >> > Ken
> >>
> >> See, folks: that's Ken's respect for other people in a nutshell.
> >>
> >> "Whatever."
> >>
> >
> >Baker. What goes around comes around. Bobby has been treating me
> >unfairly for some time now. I won't miss him in the least. I thought
> >he was my friend. I was wrong. I thought Bellomy was my friend. I was
> >wrong. You and Bobby have a great time together bashing me. You have
> >never treated me fairly. So back you go in to your box.
> >
> >Keep it up and I will report you to Vancouver PD. The letter is
> >written and ready.
> >
> >Ken
> How have I treated you unfairly? I tried to make peace between you
> and Bellomy but he would have none of it. Not my fault.
>
> Where have I ever bashed you? I do see that you are very biased, but
> that doesn't make you a bad person. There are a lot of people who
> have no problem with blacks that they know. My parents were in that
> group. However they had that bias about "them".. those with whom they
> didn't have a personal connection. I find that to be a regular
> occurrence.
>
> Sorry that you feel that you've been bashed, but that is patently
> untrue.
Ken considers honest disagreement and fair criticism of his behaviour as
> >unfairly for some time now. I won't miss him in the least. I thought
> >he was my friend. I was wrong. I thought Bellomy was my friend. I was
> >wrong. You and Bobby have a great time together bashing me. You have
> >never treated me fairly. So back you go in to your box.
> >
> >Keep it up and I will report you to Vancouver PD. The letter is
> >written and ready.
> >
> >Ken
> How have I treated you unfairly? I tried to make peace between you
> and Bellomy but he would have none of it. Not my fault.
>
> Where have I ever bashed you? I do see that you are very biased, but
> that doesn't make you a bad person. There are a lot of people who
> have no problem with blacks that they know. My parents were in that
> group. However they had that bias about "them".. those with whom they
> didn't have a personal connection. I find that to be a regular
> occurrence.
>
> Sorry that you feel that you've been bashed, but that is patently
> untrue.
"bashing"...
kenpitts
Apr 2, 2012, 7:42:17 PM4/2/12
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On Apr 2, 6:38 pm, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:23:26 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
I am not pleased nor am I amused that you are willing to throw me over
the side over this or any other issue.
If you don't think I am a "bad person", why do you want to cut off all
contact with me?
Ken
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:23:26 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
the side over this or any other issue.
If you don't think I am a "bad person", why do you want to cut off all
contact with me?
Ken
Alan Baker
Apr 2, 2012, 7:46:47 PM4/2/12
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In article
<b0e096f6-8b72-4cbd...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
And pretty much everyone here is not pleased nor are they amused by your
willingness to keep whining about Tiger, but that's never stopped you,
has it?
Oh, wait! You promised you'd stop and then you reneged, didn't you?
:-)
>
> If you don't think I am a "bad person", why do you want to cut off all
> contact with me?
He doesn't need to justify his reasons to you, Ken.
Just like I was not going to accept your apology in a private email when
you should have made it here, Bobby gets to decide whether or not he
wants to receive any emails from you.
But you can't stand that, can you? You start whining any time anyone
makes decisions for themselves which you expect to be allowed to make
for yourself, don't you?
:-)
<b0e096f6-8b72-4cbd...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
willingness to keep whining about Tiger, but that's never stopped you,
has it?
Oh, wait! You promised you'd stop and then you reneged, didn't you?
:-)
>
> If you don't think I am a "bad person", why do you want to cut off all
> contact with me?
Just like I was not going to accept your apology in a private email when
you should have made it here, Bobby gets to decide whether or not he
wants to receive any emails from you.
But you can't stand that, can you? You start whining any time anyone
makes decisions for themselves which you expect to be allowed to make
for yourself, don't you?
:-)
kenpitts
Apr 2, 2012, 7:53:51 PM4/2/12
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On Apr 2, 6:38 pm, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:23:26 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
Bobby, notice when Baker senses one drop of my blood in the water, he
has to follow me around and respond to every single post I make. This
is what you are choosing. A certifiable maniac who has trashed several
forums versus someone you actually have known for years and someone
who has been a guest in your club. I have to admit that I am
disappointed, but if he seems more worthwhile, go for it.
Ken
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:23:26 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
has to follow me around and respond to every single post I make. This
is what you are choosing. A certifiable maniac who has trashed several
forums versus someone you actually have known for years and someone
who has been a guest in your club. I have to admit that I am
disappointed, but if he seems more worthwhile, go for it.
Ken
Alan Baker
Apr 2, 2012, 8:01:52 PM4/2/12
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In article
<1281075b-3a1c-453b...@n19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Nope. Not every post, Ken: just the ones where you make a jackass of
yourself...
...oh, wait: yes, every one.
> is what you are choosing. A certifiable maniac who has trashed several
> forums versus someone you actually have known for years and someone
> who has been a guest in your club. I have to admit that I am
> disappointed, but if he seems more worthwhile, go for it.
LOL
And this is another example of your selfish act, Ken. Bobby has said
several times that he has me killfiled...
...but for you to have learned that, you'd actually have to pay
attention to someone other than yourself, wouldn't you?
<1281075b-3a1c-453b...@n19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
yourself...
...oh, wait: yes, every one.
> is what you are choosing. A certifiable maniac who has trashed several
> forums versus someone you actually have known for years and someone
> who has been a guest in your club. I have to admit that I am
> disappointed, but if he seems more worthwhile, go for it.
And this is another example of your selfish act, Ken. Bobby has said
several times that he has me killfiled...
...but for you to have learned that, you'd actually have to pay
attention to someone other than yourself, wouldn't you?
BAR
Apr 2, 2012, 8:07:46 PM4/2/12
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In article <oqakn7t6qm1r6e35c...@4ax.com>,
bkn...@conramp.net says...
Ken is going to jump on the pity pot now.
bkn...@conramp.net says...
kenpitts
Apr 2, 2012, 8:09:48 PM4/2/12
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On Apr 2, 7:07 pm, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> In article <oqakn7t6qm1r6e35cqem8fc3mek18nr...@4ax.com>,
> bkni...@conramp.net says...
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 13:00:07 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
Ken
> In article <oqakn7t6qm1r6e35cqem8fc3mek18nr...@4ax.com>,
> bkni...@conramp.net says...
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 13:00:07 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >Should we really be surprised? The intent was to incite racial
> > >tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest of
> > >their bias.
>
> > >http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
>
> > >Ken
>
> > Unfortunately Ken I'm beginning to see the bias in you that others
> > have tried to point out. Please don't send me another personal email.
>
> Ken is going to jump on the pity pot now.
ESAD. I am going to vacate this hate fest and watch the NCAA Finals.
>
> > >Should we really be surprised? The intent was to incite racial
> > >tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest of
> > >their bias.
>
> > >http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
>
> > >Ken
>
> > Unfortunately Ken I'm beginning to see the bias in you that others
> > have tried to point out. Please don't send me another personal email.
>
> Ken is going to jump on the pity pot now.
Ken
bkn...@conramp.net
Apr 2, 2012, 8:15:19 PM4/2/12
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On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:42:17 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken....@gmail.com>
So the fact that we disagree bugs you? It doesn't bother me. It
doesn't make either of us right.
you is how badly others treat you. As I said, I did what you asked of
me and it didn't go anywhere. Sorry about that.
doesn't make either of us right.
>
>If you don't think I am a "bad person", why do you want to cut off all
>contact with me?
>
I'm tired of the" poor little old me" stuff Ken. All I've heard from
>If you don't think I am a "bad person", why do you want to cut off all
>contact with me?
>
you is how badly others treat you. As I said, I did what you asked of
me and it didn't go anywhere. Sorry about that.
bkn...@conramp.net
Apr 2, 2012, 8:30:37 PM4/2/12
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On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:53:51 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken....@gmail.com>
wrote:
>Bobby, notice when Baker senses one drop of my blood in the water, he
>has to follow me around and respond to every single post I make. This
>is what you are choosing. A certifiable maniac who has trashed several
>forums versus someone you actually have known for years and someone
>who has been a guest in your club. I have to admit that I am
>disappointed, but if he seems more worthwhile, go for it.
>
>Ken
You can't be serious. I can't be made responsible for anything that
others do or say. I don't even see Alan's posts. All I'm choosing
is to not be involved with the situations in which you find yourself.
So there's no "going for it", whatever you think "it" might be.
wrote:
>Bobby, notice when Baker senses one drop of my blood in the water, he
>has to follow me around and respond to every single post I make. This
>is what you are choosing. A certifiable maniac who has trashed several
>forums versus someone you actually have known for years and someone
>who has been a guest in your club. I have to admit that I am
>disappointed, but if he seems more worthwhile, go for it.
>
>Ken
others do or say. I don't even see Alan's posts. All I'm choosing
is to not be involved with the situations in which you find yourself.
So there's no "going for it", whatever you think "it" might be.
kenpitts
Apr 2, 2012, 9:33:07 PM4/2/12
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On Apr 2, 7:30 pm, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:53:51 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
I would never throw you under the bus like this. I think this is
another case of me being treated unfairly.
Ken
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:53:51 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
another case of me being treated unfairly.
Ken
Alan Baker
Apr 2, 2012, 9:34:49 PM4/2/12
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bkn...@conramp.net
Apr 2, 2012, 9:39:37 PM4/2/12
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On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:33:07 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken....@gmail.com>
wrote:
You have a serious problem Ken. Where in the world do you get the
idea that I've thrown you under the bus? How are you being treated
unfairly by me? Point out one instance of me bashing you, or drop
this silliness.
wrote:
idea that I've thrown you under the bus? How are you being treated
unfairly by me? Point out one instance of me bashing you, or drop
this silliness.
Alan Baker
Apr 2, 2012, 9:51:39 PM4/2/12
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In article <o2lkn7h0rmlsoe01g...@4ax.com>,
There!
You said "silliness", therefore you think Ken is being "silly"...
...therefore in Ken logic, you are bashing him!
You said "silliness", therefore you think Ken is being "silly"...
...therefore in Ken logic, you are bashing him!
kenpitts
Apr 2, 2012, 10:10:22 PM4/2/12
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On Apr 2, 8:39 pm, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:33:07 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
You can't be serious. You call me biased, giving Randy Brown and
Dalecki and all the rest license to say "I told you so.". You would
not say that is throwing me under the bus? Then, I'm not even enough
of a person to contact you by email? That is not throwing me under the
bus?
You always take every other side in every disagreement. You have
called me a right wing extremist. The truth is that I am a mainstream
conservative and I have never seen you take any side but the liberal
one. You have damaged me in a big way tonight. Of course, it never
matters when I am the one who sustains the damage.
I am very disappointed.
Ken
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 18:33:07 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
Dalecki and all the rest license to say "I told you so.". You would
not say that is throwing me under the bus? Then, I'm not even enough
of a person to contact you by email? That is not throwing me under the
bus?
You always take every other side in every disagreement. You have
called me a right wing extremist. The truth is that I am a mainstream
conservative and I have never seen you take any side but the liberal
one. You have damaged me in a big way tonight. Of course, it never
matters when I am the one who sustains the damage.
I am very disappointed.
Ken
Alan Baker
Apr 2, 2012, 10:13:51 PM4/2/12
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In article
<a1b5e72b-4240-42aa...@h9g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
He gave you his honest opinion. Perhaps when a whole bunch of people you
claim "used to be your friends" are all telling you the same thing, it
behooves you to see if perhaps there is a grain of truth to what they
have to say.
>
> You always take every other side in every disagreement. You have
> called me a right wing extremist. The truth is that I am a mainstream
> conservative and I have never seen you take any side but the liberal
> one. You have damaged me in a big way tonight. Of course, it never
> matters when I am the one who sustains the damage.
You haven't been damaged at all, Ken. You're just a big whiney child.
>
> I am very disappointed.
Grow up.
<a1b5e72b-4240-42aa...@h9g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
claim "used to be your friends" are all telling you the same thing, it
behooves you to see if perhaps there is a grain of truth to what they
have to say.
>
> You always take every other side in every disagreement. You have
> called me a right wing extremist. The truth is that I am a mainstream
> conservative and I have never seen you take any side but the liberal
> one. You have damaged me in a big way tonight. Of course, it never
> matters when I am the one who sustains the damage.
>
> I am very disappointed.
Grow up.
kenpitts
Apr 2, 2012, 10:18:23 PM4/2/12
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Alan Baker
Apr 2, 2012, 10:19:12 PM4/2/12
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Carbon
Apr 2, 2012, 10:33:19 PM4/2/12
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On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 21:25:34 +0000, Moderate wrote:
> kenpitts <ken....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Should we really be surprised? The intent was to incite racial
>> tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest
>> of their bias.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
>
> kenpitts <ken....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Should we really be surprised? The intent was to incite racial
>> tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest
>> of their bias.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
>
> I see this type of reporting everyday from network media.
Yes. The death panels hysteria is another example.
kenpitts
Apr 2, 2012, 10:34:43 PM4/2/12
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Ken
Carbon
Apr 2, 2012, 10:36:31 PM4/2/12
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On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 16:23:26 -0700, kenpitts wrote:
> On Apr 2, 6:01 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>
>> See, folks: that's Ken's respect for other people in a nutshell.
>>
>> "Whatever."
>
> On Apr 2, 6:01 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>
>> See, folks: that's Ken's respect for other people in a nutshell.
>>
>> "Whatever."
>
> Baker. What goes around comes around. Bobby has been treating me
> unfairly for some time now. I won't miss him in the least. I thought
> he was my friend. I was wrong. I thought Bellomy was my friend. I was
> wrong. You and Bobby have a great time together bashing me. You have
> never treated me fairly. So back you go in to your box.
Whereas what people are really sick of is your endless complaining that
> unfairly for some time now. I won't miss him in the least. I thought
> he was my friend. I was wrong. I thought Bellomy was my friend. I was
> wrong. You and Bobby have a great time together bashing me. You have
> never treated me fairly. So back you go in to your box.
everyone is treating you unfairly. Perhaps if you stopped doing that
your relationship with the rest of the planet would be less contentious.
> Keep it up and I will report you to Vancouver PD. The letter is
> written and ready.
Carbon
Apr 2, 2012, 10:47:47 PM4/2/12
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On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 17:09:48 -0700, kenpitts wrote:
> On Apr 2, 7:07 pm, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
>> In article <oqakn7t6qm1r6e35cqem8fc3mek18nr...@4ax.com>,
>> bkni...@conramp.net says...
>>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 13:00:07 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts
>>> <ken.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Should we really be surprised? The intent was to incite racial
>>>> tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest
>>>> of their bias.
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
>>>
> On Apr 2, 7:07 pm, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
>> In article <oqakn7t6qm1r6e35cqem8fc3mek18nr...@4ax.com>,
>> bkni...@conramp.net says...
>>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 13:00:07 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts
>>> <ken.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Should we really be surprised? The intent was to incite racial
>>>> tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest
>>>> of their bias.
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
>>>
>>> Unfortunately Ken I'm beginning to see the bias in you that others
>>> have tried to point out. Please don't send me another personal
>>> email.
>>
>> Ken is going to jump on the pity pot now.
>
> ESAD. I am going to vacate this hate fest and watch the NCAA Finals.
Do these little tantrums of yours ever make you feel like a hypocrite?
>>> have tried to point out. Please don't send me another personal
>>> email.
>>
>> Ken is going to jump on the pity pot now.
>
> ESAD. I am going to vacate this hate fest and watch the NCAA Finals.
Carbon
Apr 2, 2012, 10:50:48 PM4/2/12
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panel campaign, and why?
kenpitts
Apr 2, 2012, 10:55:31 PM4/2/12
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Columbia and Harvard? His mother was on welfare. His academic records
are sealed up as tight as they can be. Yet Obama wants Romney to
reveal all his financials. You talk about a hypocrite!
Ken
Carbon
Apr 2, 2012, 11:16:48 PM4/2/12
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wasn't rich and a legacy admission like most shitty students that got
into college *cough*Wubya*cough*. It's almost as if, having no other
choice, he must have been a good student.
kenpitts
Apr 2, 2012, 11:45:34 PM4/2/12
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W earned an MBA at Harvard. He had a higher GPA than John Kerry at
Yale. W earned his wings as a fighter pilot. They don't give any of
those away, no matter who your daddy is.
Ken
Alan Baker
Apr 3, 2012, 1:10:09 AM4/3/12
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In article
<10e02374-14ab-4399...@v1g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
They don't give away law degrees at Harvard either.
<10e02374-14ab-4399...@v1g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
BAR
Apr 3, 2012, 7:39:23 AM4/3/12
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In article <a1b5e72b-4240-42aa-a7ac-
2b32b5...@h9g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, ken....@gmail.com says...
You sound like a girl. Always looking for the approval and acceptance of
others. Always needing to be validated and valued.
2b32b5...@h9g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, ken....@gmail.com says...
others. Always needing to be validated and valued.
BAR
Apr 3, 2012, 7:40:23 AM4/3/12
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In article <pan.2012.04...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>,
nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
If you can't run with the big dogs then you should stay on the porch.
nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
BAR
Apr 3, 2012, 7:41:14 AM4/3/12
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In article <24c88c2d-abf6-4889-a85d-92c5e3bd4d46
@n19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, ken....@gmail.com says...
He attended as "Barry Sotero" the foreign student.
@n19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, ken....@gmail.com says...
BAR
Apr 3, 2012, 7:44:34 AM4/3/12
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In article <10e02374-14ab-4399-a64c-6afd52db6530
@v1g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, ken....@gmail.com says...
John McCain graduated 895 out of 899 at the US Naval Academy and he was
able to get a slot in pilot school. He also forgot to return with 4
aircraft. It seems that he really didn't earn his wings.
@v1g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, ken....@gmail.com says...
able to get a slot in pilot school. He also forgot to return with 4
aircraft. It seems that he really didn't earn his wings.
Horva...@net.net
Apr 3, 2012, 8:04:35 AM4/3/12
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On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 07:41:14 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote this
crap:
>> Have you ever wondered how Obama was able to attend Pepperdine,
>> Columbia and Harvard? His mother was on welfare. His academic records
>> are sealed up as tight as they can be. Yet Obama wants Romney to
>> reveal all his financials. You talk about a hypocrite!
>>
>> Ken
>
>He attended as "Barry Sotero" the foreign student.
You can do that when you are born in Kenya. None of us Americans
could get away with that.
Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares.
crap:
>> Have you ever wondered how Obama was able to attend Pepperdine,
>> Columbia and Harvard? His mother was on welfare. His academic records
>> are sealed up as tight as they can be. Yet Obama wants Romney to
>> reveal all his financials. You talk about a hypocrite!
>>
>> Ken
>
>He attended as "Barry Sotero" the foreign student.
could get away with that.
Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares.
Horva...@net.net
Apr 3, 2012, 8:11:24 AM4/3/12
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On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 07:44:34 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote this
crap:
>
must earn the ability to fly. I know that however much money I pay, I
will never be a pilot. I have great respect for anyone who flies.
Especially those who fly jets.
crap:
>
>John McCain graduated 895 out of 899 at the US Naval Academy and he was
>able to get a slot in pilot school. He also forgot to return with 4
>aircraft. It seems that he really didn't earn his wings.
You *must* be joking. Seriously, I am taking flying lessons. You
>able to get a slot in pilot school. He also forgot to return with 4
>aircraft. It seems that he really didn't earn his wings.
must earn the ability to fly. I know that however much money I pay, I
will never be a pilot. I have great respect for anyone who flies.
Especially those who fly jets.
Frank Ketchum
Apr 3, 2012, 9:11:19 AM4/3/12
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"kenpitts" <ken....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:db42f78b-3830-4ab2...@s7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
surrounding this particular story."
Yet there are still some clowns who still can't see the bias in the
mainstream media.
news:db42f78b-3830-4ab2...@s7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> Should we really be surprised? The intent was to incite racial
> tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest of
> their bias.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
>
"We have launched an internal investigation into the editorial process
> tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest of
> their bias.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
>
surrounding this particular story."
Yet there are still some clowns who still can't see the bias in the
mainstream media.
Frank Ketchum
Apr 3, 2012, 9:21:12 AM4/3/12
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news:5c12c6d4-3443-47be...@x17g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
going on here is people know that all it takes to piss you off is to needle
you for awhile and you will explode.
On Apr 2, 7:07 pm, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> In article <oqakn7t6qm1r6e35cqem8fc3mek18nr...@4ax.com>,
> bkni...@conramp.net says...
>
>
>
> In article <oqakn7t6qm1r6e35cqem8fc3mek18nr...@4ax.com>,
> bkni...@conramp.net says...
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 13:00:07 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >Should we really be surprised? The intent was to incite racial
> > >tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest of
> > >their bias.
>
> > >http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
>
> > >Ken
> > wrote:
>
> > >Should we really be surprised? The intent was to incite racial
> > >tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest of
> > >their bias.
>
> > >http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
>
>
> > Unfortunately Ken I'm beginning to see the bias in you that others
> > have tried to point out. Please don't send me another personal email.
>
> Ken is going to jump on the pity pot now.
>
> ESAD. I am going to vacate this hate fest and watch the NCAA Finals.
>
Ken, you are getting picked on because you are acting childish. What's
> > Unfortunately Ken I'm beginning to see the bias in you that others
> > have tried to point out. Please don't send me another personal email.
>
> Ken is going to jump on the pity pot now.
>
> ESAD. I am going to vacate this hate fest and watch the NCAA Finals.
>
going on here is people know that all it takes to piss you off is to needle
you for awhile and you will explode.
bkn...@conramp.net
Apr 3, 2012, 1:12:25 PM4/3/12
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On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 19:10:22 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken....@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> >> You can't be serious. I can't be made responsible for anything that
>> >> others do or say. I don't even see Alan's posts. All I'm choosing
>> >> is to not be involved with the situations in which you find yourself.
>>
>> >> So there's no "going for it", whatever you think "it" might be.
>>
>> >I would never throw you under the bus like this. I think this is
>> >another case of me being treated unfairly.
>>
>> >Ken
>>
>> You have a serious problem Ken. Where in the world do you get the
>> idea that I've thrown you under the bus? How are you being treated
>> unfairly by me? Point out one instance of me bashing you, or drop
>> this silliness.
>
>You can't be serious. You call me biased, giving Randy Brown and
>Dalecki and all the rest license to say "I told you so.". You would
>not say that is throwing me under the bus? Then, I'm not even enough
>of a person to contact you by email? That is not throwing me under the
>bus?
You call me biased Ken. So what?
Dalecki and Randy haven't posted regularly here for about 5 years.
Do you really think that I, or anyone else here, has the power to
"give license" for others to state what they think? Why am I to blame
for your problem with Bellomy? I even tried to work that out for you.
I asked that you not email me because it's always the same...someone
is being unfair to you. What could I do about it? You emailed me
anyway.
Why are there so many people being unfair to you? Dalecki, Randy,
others that you don't name. Carbon, Alan, Bert and more that have
been critical of your obsession with Tiger Woods? Are you attributing
all of that to me too? Why did that 15 year old kick the crap out of
you? I guess I gave him license too.
what a disagreement is, two people that don't agree. I do think you
are a right wing extremist...and so what? I have close friends who
feel the same way as you.
>
>I am very disappointed.
You're very mixed up.
What are you expecting of me? Am I to rush to your defense when you
make others upset with you? Hell, in my 17 years here I've had plenty
of arguments and never saw you come to my aid....and didn't expect it.
We all make our beds here. No one is responsible for another.
Man up and realize that you don't have to apologize for what you
think, and that no one else is responsible for the responses you get
because of it.
wrote:
>> >> You can't be serious. I can't be made responsible for anything that
>> >> others do or say. I don't even see Alan's posts. All I'm choosing
>> >> is to not be involved with the situations in which you find yourself.
>>
>> >> So there's no "going for it", whatever you think "it" might be.
>>
>> >I would never throw you under the bus like this. I think this is
>> >another case of me being treated unfairly.
>>
>> >Ken
>>
>> You have a serious problem Ken. Where in the world do you get the
>> idea that I've thrown you under the bus? How are you being treated
>> unfairly by me? Point out one instance of me bashing you, or drop
>> this silliness.
>
>You can't be serious. You call me biased, giving Randy Brown and
>Dalecki and all the rest license to say "I told you so.". You would
>not say that is throwing me under the bus? Then, I'm not even enough
>of a person to contact you by email? That is not throwing me under the
>bus?
Dalecki and Randy haven't posted regularly here for about 5 years.
Do you really think that I, or anyone else here, has the power to
"give license" for others to state what they think? Why am I to blame
for your problem with Bellomy? I even tried to work that out for you.
I asked that you not email me because it's always the same...someone
is being unfair to you. What could I do about it? You emailed me
anyway.
Why are there so many people being unfair to you? Dalecki, Randy,
others that you don't name. Carbon, Alan, Bert and more that have
been critical of your obsession with Tiger Woods? Are you attributing
all of that to me too? Why did that 15 year old kick the crap out of
you? I guess I gave him license too.
>
>You always take every other side in every disagreement. You have
>called me a right wing extremist. The truth is that I am a mainstream
>conservative and I have never seen you take any side but the liberal
>one. You have damaged me in a big way tonight. Of course, it never
>matters when I am the one who sustains the damage.
You always take the other side in every disagreement you have. That's
>You always take every other side in every disagreement. You have
>called me a right wing extremist. The truth is that I am a mainstream
>conservative and I have never seen you take any side but the liberal
>one. You have damaged me in a big way tonight. Of course, it never
>matters when I am the one who sustains the damage.
what a disagreement is, two people that don't agree. I do think you
are a right wing extremist...and so what? I have close friends who
feel the same way as you.
>
>I am very disappointed.
You're very mixed up.
What are you expecting of me? Am I to rush to your defense when you
make others upset with you? Hell, in my 17 years here I've had plenty
of arguments and never saw you come to my aid....and didn't expect it.
We all make our beds here. No one is responsible for another.
Man up and realize that you don't have to apologize for what you
think, and that no one else is responsible for the responses you get
because of it.
BAR
Apr 3, 2012, 5:23:15 PM4/3/12
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In article <trpln7dlutem5flha...@4ax.com>, Horvath1758
@net.net says...
I know three people who were in the same class as McCain at the Naval
Academy. One was, my best friend's father, who was never less than 3 on
the promotion list for the USMC. One who I was related to. The last one
was another friend's father. None of them had anything good to say about
John McCain.
@net.net says...
Academy. One was, my best friend's father, who was never less than 3 on
the promotion list for the USMC. One who I was related to. The last one
was another friend's father. None of them had anything good to say about
John McCain.
Carbon
Apr 3, 2012, 6:26:39 PM4/3/12
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that everyone knew was never going to see action.
Wubya was a legacy admission and too crappy a student to get into the
law school. Even with those lowered expectations, he did not thrive.
“I don’t remember all the students in detail unless I’m prompted by
something,” Tsurumi said in a telephone interview Wednesday. “But I
always remember two types of students. One is the very excellent
student, the type as a professor you feel honored to be working with.
Someone with strong social values, compassion and intellect — the very
rare person you never forget. And then you remember students like George
Bush, those who are totally the opposite.”
http://www.salon.com/2004/09/16/tsurumi/
Carbon
Apr 3, 2012, 6:28:25 PM4/3/12
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Horva...@net.net
Apr 3, 2012, 7:07:18 PM4/3/12
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On Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:23:15 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote this
crap:
>>
All seriousness aside. I know three people who visited Kenya. None
of them have anything good to say about Obama.
crap:
>>
>> You *must* be joking. Seriously, I am taking flying lessons. You
>> must earn the ability to fly. I know that however much money I pay, I
>> will never be a pilot. I have great respect for anyone who flies.
>> Especially those who fly jets.
>>
>> Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares.
>
>I know three people who were in the same class as McCain at the Naval
>Academy. One was, my best friend's father, who was never less than 3 on
>the promotion list for the USMC. One who I was related to. The last one
>was another friend's father. None of them had anything good to say about
>John McCain.
So what? Did they fly jets?
>> must earn the ability to fly. I know that however much money I pay, I
>> will never be a pilot. I have great respect for anyone who flies.
>> Especially those who fly jets.
>>
>> Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares.
>
>I know three people who were in the same class as McCain at the Naval
>Academy. One was, my best friend's father, who was never less than 3 on
>the promotion list for the USMC. One who I was related to. The last one
>was another friend's father. None of them had anything good to say about
>John McCain.
All seriousness aside. I know three people who visited Kenya. None
of them have anything good to say about Obama.
kenpitts
Apr 3, 2012, 7:05:49 PM4/3/12
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On Apr 3, 8:11 am, "Frank Ketchum" <nos...@thanksanyway.com> wrote:
> "kenpitts" <ken.p...@gmail.com> wrote in message
problem.
Ken
> "kenpitts" <ken.p...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:db42f78b-3830-4ab2...@s7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Should we really be surprised? The intent was to incite racial
> > tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest of
> > their bias.
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
>
> "We have launched an internal investigation into the editorial process
> surrounding this particular story."
>
>
It takes something this obvious to get them to admit there might be a
> news:db42f78b-3830-4ab2...@s7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Should we really be surprised? The intent was to incite racial
> > tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest of
> > their bias.
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
>
> "We have launched an internal investigation into the editorial process
> surrounding this particular story."
>
>
problem.
Ken
Moderate
Apr 3, 2012, 7:12:21 PM4/3/12
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Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:45:34 -0700, kenpitts wrote:
>>
>> W earned an MBA at Harvard. He had a higher GPA than John Kerry at
>> Yale. W earned his wings as a fighter pilot. They don't give any of
>> those away, no matter who your daddy is.
>
> Actually they do. Even better, the rich kids got to train on aircraft
> that everyone knew was never going to see action.
What kind of person perpetuates lies about President Bush's service while
> On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:45:34 -0700, kenpitts wrote:
>>
>> W earned an MBA at Harvard. He had a higher GPA than John Kerry at
>> Yale. W earned his wings as a fighter pilot. They don't give any of
>> those away, no matter who your daddy is.
>
> Actually they do. Even better, the rich kids got to train on aircraft
> that everyone knew was never going to see action.
ignoring the factual draft dodging of Clinton?
Ans: Every Liberal I ever encountered.
kenpitts
Apr 3, 2012, 7:14:08 PM4/3/12
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On Apr 3, 12:12 pm, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 19:10:22 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
I have defended you plenty of times. Figures that you don't remember.
Supervised Karate class with multiple black belts in charge. I was
holding a football blocking dummy for this kid to practice his side
kick. I was a neophyte and he was a brown belt. I was astounded at the
force he could deliver.
What do I expect? I expect to not be thrown over the side by people
who I thought were friends. You, Bellomy. To this day, I don't know
what I did to set him off like that. Here's that word. I think it is
unfair for him to do what he has done without at least telling me in a
straightforward way what I was supposed to have done. And I expect a
person who I thought was a friend to not pull the plug on personal
communication. Clearly what I think and feel doesn't matter to either
of you.
Ken
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012 19:10:22 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
Supervised Karate class with multiple black belts in charge. I was
holding a football blocking dummy for this kid to practice his side
kick. I was a neophyte and he was a brown belt. I was astounded at the
force he could deliver.
What do I expect? I expect to not be thrown over the side by people
who I thought were friends. You, Bellomy. To this day, I don't know
what I did to set him off like that. Here's that word. I think it is
unfair for him to do what he has done without at least telling me in a
straightforward way what I was supposed to have done. And I expect a
person who I thought was a friend to not pull the plug on personal
communication. Clearly what I think and feel doesn't matter to either
of you.
Ken
kenpitts
Apr 3, 2012, 8:56:23 PM4/3/12
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> @v1g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, ken.p...@gmail.com says...
Cite. It is really sickening the way you trivialize his service.
John McCain rose to the rank of captain (same as full colonel) in the
US Navy after being tortured for years at the hands of sadistic
Communists. He was on hot ready on the flight line of the Forrestal as
that disastrous fire broke out killing many of my colleagues (I was
Navy also during the VietNam conflict) as they fought the fire. Like
him or not he has devoted his entire adult life to service of our
country. We need more like John McCain and fewer like BHO.
Additionally, 895 of 899 is no disgrace at Annapolis or West Point or
the Air Force Academy. You have to be nominated by your Congressman to
even start there day one. These young men and women are the best of
the best that our country has to offer.
Ken
John McCain rose to the rank of captain (same as full colonel) in the
US Navy after being tortured for years at the hands of sadistic
Communists. He was on hot ready on the flight line of the Forrestal as
that disastrous fire broke out killing many of my colleagues (I was
Navy also during the VietNam conflict) as they fought the fire. Like
him or not he has devoted his entire adult life to service of our
country. We need more like John McCain and fewer like BHO.
Additionally, 895 of 899 is no disgrace at Annapolis or West Point or
the Air Force Academy. You have to be nominated by your Congressman to
even start there day one. These young men and women are the best of
the best that our country has to offer.
Ken
kenpitts
Apr 3, 2012, 9:06:37 PM4/3/12
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Tell me about the nature of your service. I thought so.
Ken
Alan Baker
Apr 3, 2012, 10:17:32 PM4/3/12
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In article <803379684355187156.34...@news.aioe.org>,
What lie? Bush was trained (when he actually showed up) on a pure
interceptor that was already being phased out. It was not the kind of
plane that was ever going to go to Vietnam.
interceptor that was already being phased out. It was not the kind of
plane that was ever going to go to Vietnam.
Carbon
Apr 3, 2012, 10:40:43 PM4/3/12
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avoid it. Just like your hero, Deadeye Dick Cheney, and millions of
other Americans.
Here. Educate yourself. http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/felon.asp
Moderate
Apr 4, 2012, 6:38:08 AM4/4/12
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deferment. His actions were criminal. Your cite confirms it.
Moderate
Apr 4, 2012, 6:44:04 AM4/4/12
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Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> wrote:
> In article <803379684355187156.34...@news.aioe.org>,
> Moderate <nos...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
>> Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:45:34 -0700, kenpitts wrote:
>>>>
>>>> W earned an MBA at Harvard. He had a higher GPA than John Kerry at
>>>> Yale. W earned his wings as a fighter pilot. They don't give any of
>>>> those away, no matter who your daddy is.
>>>
>>> Actually they do. Even better, the rich kids got to train on aircraft
>>> that everyone knew was never going to see action.
>>
>> What kind of person perpetuates lies about President Bush's service while
>> ignoring the factual draft dodging of Clinton?
>>
>> Ans: Every Liberal I ever encountered.
>
> What lie? Bush was trained (when he actually showed up) on a pure
> interceptor that was already being phased out. It was not the kind of
> plane that was ever going to go to Vietnam.
As usual you have no idea what you are talking about. Sad, but funny.
> In article <803379684355187156.34...@news.aioe.org>,
> Moderate <nos...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
>> Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:45:34 -0700, kenpitts wrote:
>>>>
>>>> W earned an MBA at Harvard. He had a higher GPA than John Kerry at
>>>> Yale. W earned his wings as a fighter pilot. They don't give any of
>>>> those away, no matter who your daddy is.
>>>
>>> Actually they do. Even better, the rich kids got to train on aircraft
>>> that everyone knew was never going to see action.
>>
>> What kind of person perpetuates lies about President Bush's service while
>> ignoring the factual draft dodging of Clinton?
>>
>> Ans: Every Liberal I ever encountered.
>
> What lie? Bush was trained (when he actually showed up) on a pure
> interceptor that was already being phased out. It was not the kind of
> plane that was ever going to go to Vietnam.
BAR
Apr 4, 2012, 7:50:39 AM4/4/12
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Irish Mike
Apr 4, 2012, 9:36:22 AM4/4/12
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On Apr 2 2012 5:00 PM, kenpitts wrote:
> Should we really be surprised? The intent was to incite racial
> tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest of
> their bias.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
>
> Ken
> Should we really be surprised? The intent was to incite racial
> tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest of
> their bias.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
>
Nothing surprising about this. It's like ABC releasing a video clip of
Zimmerman being arrested and announcing that there was no indication of
him being injured. Then a few days later ABC released a "digitally
enhanced" version of the same video. It clearly showed a gash on the back
of Zimmerman's head. Which is consistent with Zimmerman's account of the
situation.
This whole case stinks of political correctness and the efforts of
professional racists like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.
Irish Mike
"It's not God bless America, it's God damn America!" Jeremiah Wright,
Obama's mentor and spiritual leader for more than 20 years.
________________________________________________________________________
Carbon
Apr 4, 2012, 9:48:12 AM4/4/12
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what you're arguing about. Start with this paragraph here:
"That Bill Clinton went to great lengths to avoid the Vietnam-era draft,
that he used political connections to obtain special favors, and that he
made promises and commitments which he later failed to honor, are all
beyond dispute. However, the timeline quoted above jumps the tracks when
it labels Clinton a "felon," because none of his actions, no matter how
unethical or morally reprehensible, were illegal. When Clinton agreed in
July of 1969 to enter the advanced ROTC program at the University of
Arkansas, his draft board rescinded his induction notice and
reclassified him with a reservist's deferment. That he later changed his
mind in October 1969 and opted to forego the ROTC program and be
reclassified 1-A did not constitute a "failure to report" or make him
"AWOL," because he was not due to begin ROTC training until the summer
of 1970, and he had the ROTC director's permission to return to England
in the meanwhile. At the time of his 1-A re-classification in October
1969 the previous induction notice was no longer in effect, and he was
not subsequently re-drafted."
Alan Baker
Apr 4, 2012, 12:15:04 PM4/4/12
to
In article <1224902539355228896.7...@news.aioe.org>,
I know precisely what I'm talking about.
The F-106 Delta Dagger was designed for the sole role of high altitude
interception of strategic bombers. As such, it was never going to be
deployed in Vietnam.
The F-106 Delta Dagger was designed for the sole role of high altitude
interception of strategic bombers. As such, it was never going to be
deployed in Vietnam.
Alan Baker
Apr 4, 2012, 12:16:45 PM4/4/12
to
In article <mbvt49x...@app-01.ezprovider.com>,
As I've pointed out before: gashes don't come and go as a person's head
turns in the light; shadows do.
If Zimmerman had actually had a gash as big as that appeared to be it
would have had a dressing on it.
>
> This whole case stinks of political correctness and the efforts of
> professional racists like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.
>
> Irish Mike
>
> "It's not God bless America, it's God damn America!" Jeremiah Wright,
> Obama's mentor and spiritual leader for more than 20 years.
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
"Irish Mike" <ad7...@webnntp.invalid> wrote:
> On Apr 2 2012 5:00 PM, kenpitts wrote:
>
> > Should we really be surprised? The intent was to incite racial
> > tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest of
> > their bias.
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
> >
> > Ken
>
> Nothing surprising about this. It's like ABC releasing a video clip of
> Zimmerman being arrested and announcing that there was no indication of
> him being injured. Then a few days later ABC released a "digitally
> enhanced" version of the same video. It clearly showed a gash on the back
> of Zimmerman's head. Which is consistent with Zimmerman's account of the
> situation.
It "clearly" showed no such thing.
> On Apr 2 2012 5:00 PM, kenpitts wrote:
>
> > Should we really be surprised? The intent was to incite racial
> > tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest of
> > their bias.
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
> >
> > Ken
>
> Nothing surprising about this. It's like ABC releasing a video clip of
> Zimmerman being arrested and announcing that there was no indication of
> him being injured. Then a few days later ABC released a "digitally
> enhanced" version of the same video. It clearly showed a gash on the back
> of Zimmerman's head. Which is consistent with Zimmerman's account of the
> situation.
As I've pointed out before: gashes don't come and go as a person's head
turns in the light; shadows do.
If Zimmerman had actually had a gash as big as that appeared to be it
would have had a dressing on it.
>
> This whole case stinks of political correctness and the efforts of
> professional racists like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.
>
> Irish Mike
>
> "It's not God bless America, it's God damn America!" Jeremiah Wright,
> Obama's mentor and spiritual leader for more than 20 years.
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
la...@pivotforpower.com
Apr 4, 2012, 12:45:34 PM4/4/12
to
On Wednesday, April 4, 2012 9:15:04 AM UTC-7, Alan Baker wrote:
> In article <1224902539355228896.7...@news.aioe.org>,
> Moderate <nos...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
> > Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> wrote:
> > > In article <803379684355187156.34...@news.aioe.org>,
> > > Moderate <nos...@nomail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > >>> On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:45:34 -0700, kenpitts wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> W earned an MBA at Harvard. He had a higher GPA than John Kerry at
> > >>>> Yale. W earned his wings as a fighter pilot. They don't give any of
> > >>>> those away, no matter who your daddy is.
> > >>>
> > >>> Actually they do. Even better, the rich kids got to train on aircraft
> > >>> that everyone knew was never going to see action.
> > >>
> > >> What kind of person perpetuates lies about President Bush's service while
> > >> ignoring the factual draft dodging of Clinton?
> > >>
> > >> Ans: Every Liberal I ever encountered.
> > >
> > > What lie? Bush was trained (when he actually showed up) on a pure
> > > interceptor that was already being phased out. It was not the kind of
> > > plane that was ever going to go to Vietnam.
> >
> > As usual you have no idea what you are talking about. Sad, but funny.
>
> I know precisely what I'm talking about.
>
> The F-106 Delta Dagger was designed for the sole role of high altitude
> interception of strategic bombers. As such, it was never going to be
> deployed in Vietnam.
>
GW Bush flew 500+ hourse in the F-102, the most dangerous of the Air Force's fighter jets at the time. It required the pilot to be very very alert especially during low and slow maneuvers because it would suddenly stall andspin in. That aircraft killed a lot of good pilots. GW Bush was a very good pilot.
> In article <1224902539355228896.7...@news.aioe.org>,
> Moderate <nos...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
> > Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> wrote:
> > > In article <803379684355187156.34...@news.aioe.org>,
> > > Moderate <nos...@nomail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > >>> On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:45:34 -0700, kenpitts wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> W earned an MBA at Harvard. He had a higher GPA than John Kerry at
> > >>>> Yale. W earned his wings as a fighter pilot. They don't give any of
> > >>>> those away, no matter who your daddy is.
> > >>>
> > >>> Actually they do. Even better, the rich kids got to train on aircraft
> > >>> that everyone knew was never going to see action.
> > >>
> > >> What kind of person perpetuates lies about President Bush's service while
> > >> ignoring the factual draft dodging of Clinton?
> > >>
> > >> Ans: Every Liberal I ever encountered.
> > >
> > > What lie? Bush was trained (when he actually showed up) on a pure
> > > interceptor that was already being phased out. It was not the kind of
> > > plane that was ever going to go to Vietnam.
> >
> > As usual you have no idea what you are talking about. Sad, but funny.
>
> I know precisely what I'm talking about.
>
> The F-106 Delta Dagger was designed for the sole role of high altitude
> interception of strategic bombers. As such, it was never going to be
> deployed in Vietnam.
>
Larry
Alan Baker
Apr 4, 2012, 3:03:28 PM4/4/12
to
In article
<3054516.119.1333557934923.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbcwr2>,
:-)
> especially during low and slow maneuvers because it would suddenly stall
> andspin in. That aircraft killed a lot of good pilots. GW Bush was a very
> good pilot.
The fact that Bush wasn't killed doesn't mean he was a good pilot.
The worst driver I've ever known is still alive today.
<3054516.119.1333557934923.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbcwr2>,
"la...@pivotforpower.com" <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
> > > >>>> W earned an MBA at Harvard. He had a higher GPA than John Kerry at
> > > >>>> Yale. W earned his wings as a fighter pilot. They don't give any of
> > > >>>> those away, no matter who your daddy is.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Actually they do. Even better, the rich kids got to train on aircraft
> > > >>> that everyone knew was never going to see action.
> > > >>
> > > >> What kind of person perpetuates lies about President Bush's service
> > > >> while
> > > >> ignoring the factual draft dodging of Clinton?
> > > >>
> > > >> Ans: Every Liberal I ever encountered.
> > > >
> > > > What lie? Bush was trained (when he actually showed up) on a pure
> > > > interceptor that was already being phased out. It was not the kind of
> > > > plane that was ever going to go to Vietnam.
> > >
> > > As usual you have no idea what you are talking about. Sad, but funny.
> >
> > I know precisely what I'm talking about.
> >
> > The F-106 Delta Dagger was designed for the sole role of high altitude
> > interception of strategic bombers. As such, it was never going to be
> > deployed in Vietnam.
> >
> GW Bush flew 500+ hourse in the F-102, the most dangerous of the Air Force's
> fighter jets at the time. It required the pilot to be very very alert
336 hours, actually. But what's one more Larry exaggeration?
> > > >>>> W earned an MBA at Harvard. He had a higher GPA than John Kerry at
> > > >>>> Yale. W earned his wings as a fighter pilot. They don't give any of
> > > >>>> those away, no matter who your daddy is.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Actually they do. Even better, the rich kids got to train on aircraft
> > > >>> that everyone knew was never going to see action.
> > > >>
> > > >> What kind of person perpetuates lies about President Bush's service
> > > >> while
> > > >> ignoring the factual draft dodging of Clinton?
> > > >>
> > > >> Ans: Every Liberal I ever encountered.
> > > >
> > > > What lie? Bush was trained (when he actually showed up) on a pure
> > > > interceptor that was already being phased out. It was not the kind of
> > > > plane that was ever going to go to Vietnam.
> > >
> > > As usual you have no idea what you are talking about. Sad, but funny.
> >
> > I know precisely what I'm talking about.
> >
> > The F-106 Delta Dagger was designed for the sole role of high altitude
> > interception of strategic bombers. As such, it was never going to be
> > deployed in Vietnam.
> >
> GW Bush flew 500+ hourse in the F-102, the most dangerous of the Air Force's
> fighter jets at the time. It required the pilot to be very very alert
:-)
> especially during low and slow maneuvers because it would suddenly stall
> andspin in. That aircraft killed a lot of good pilots. GW Bush was a very
> good pilot.
The worst driver I've ever known is still alive today.
Alan Baker
Apr 4, 2012, 3:08:12 PM4/4/12
to
In article
<3b415aae-233d-4264...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
doesn't matter to you.
:-)
<3b415aae-233d-4264...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
kenpitts <ken....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Man up and realize that you don't have to apologize for what you
> > think, and that no one else is responsible for the responses you get
> > because of it.
>
> I have defended you plenty of times. Figures that you don't remember.
>
> Supervised Karate class with multiple black belts in charge. I was
> holding a football blocking dummy for this kid to practice his side
> kick. I was a neophyte and he was a brown belt. I was astounded at the
> force he could deliver.
>
> What do I expect? I expect to not be thrown over the side by people
> who I thought were friends. You, Bellomy. To this day, I don't know
> what I did to set him off like that. Here's that word. I think it is
> unfair for him to do what he has done without at least telling me in a
> straightforward way what I was supposed to have done. And I expect a
> person who I thought was a friend to not pull the plug on personal
> communication. Clearly what I think and feel doesn't matter to either
> of you.
Which is only appropriate because clearly what others think and feel
> > Man up and realize that you don't have to apologize for what you
> > think, and that no one else is responsible for the responses you get
> > because of it.
>
> I have defended you plenty of times. Figures that you don't remember.
>
> Supervised Karate class with multiple black belts in charge. I was
> holding a football blocking dummy for this kid to practice his side
> kick. I was a neophyte and he was a brown belt. I was astounded at the
> force he could deliver.
>
> What do I expect? I expect to not be thrown over the side by people
> who I thought were friends. You, Bellomy. To this day, I don't know
> what I did to set him off like that. Here's that word. I think it is
> unfair for him to do what he has done without at least telling me in a
> straightforward way what I was supposed to have done. And I expect a
> person who I thought was a friend to not pull the plug on personal
> communication. Clearly what I think and feel doesn't matter to either
> of you.
doesn't matter to you.
:-)
Alan Baker
Apr 4, 2012, 3:15:21 PM4/4/12
to
In article
<c91897d2-a5ac-4516...@y13g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
"McCain graduated from the Naval Academy in June 1958; he was fifth from
the bottom in class rank, 894th out of 899.[39]"
The "[39]" is a reference to:
"Timberg, The Nightingale's Song, pp. 3135."
"McCain's mishaps in the cockpit
Three early crashes drew Navy scrutiny. A review of his record reveals a
cocky flier, prone to test the limits.
John McCain was training in his AD-6 Skyraider on an overcast Texas
morning in 1960 when he slammed into Corpus Christi Bay and sheared the
skin off his plane's wings.
McCain recounted the accident decades later in his autobiography. "The
engine quit while I was practicing landings," he wrote. But an
investigation board at the Naval Aviation Safety Center found no
evidence of engine failure.
The 23-year-old junior lieutenant wasn't paying attention and erred in
using "a power setting too low to maintain level flight in a turn,"
investigators concluded."
<http://articles.latimes.com/2008/oct/06/nation/na-aviator6>
The article goes on:
"The crash was one of three early in McCain's aviation career in which
his flying skills and judgment were faulted or questioned by Navy
officials.
In his most serious lapse, McCain was "clowning" around in a Skyraider
over southern Spain about December 1961 and flew into electrical wires,
causing a blackout, according to McCain's own account as well as those
of naval officers and enlistees aboard the carrier Intrepid. In another
incident, in 1965, McCain crashed a T-2 trainer jet in Virginia."
>
> John McCain rose to the rank of captain (same as full colonel) in the
> US Navy after being tortured for years at the hands of sadistic
> Communists. He was on hot ready on the flight line of the Forrestal as
> that disastrous fire broke out killing many of my colleagues (I was
> Navy also during the VietNam conflict) as they fought the fire. Like
> him or not he has devoted his entire adult life to service of our
> country. We need more like John McCain and fewer like BHO.
>
> Additionally, 895 of 899 is no disgrace at Annapolis or West Point or
> the Air Force Academy. You have to be nominated by your Congressman to
> even start there day one. These young men and women are the best of
> the best that our country has to offer.
You are so full of it.
<c91897d2-a5ac-4516...@y13g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
the bottom in class rank, 894th out of 899.[39]"
The "[39]" is a reference to:
"Timberg, The Nightingale's Song, pp. 3135."
"McCain's mishaps in the cockpit
Three early crashes drew Navy scrutiny. A review of his record reveals a
cocky flier, prone to test the limits.
John McCain was training in his AD-6 Skyraider on an overcast Texas
morning in 1960 when he slammed into Corpus Christi Bay and sheared the
skin off his plane's wings.
McCain recounted the accident decades later in his autobiography. "The
engine quit while I was practicing landings," he wrote. But an
investigation board at the Naval Aviation Safety Center found no
evidence of engine failure.
The 23-year-old junior lieutenant wasn't paying attention and erred in
using "a power setting too low to maintain level flight in a turn,"
investigators concluded."
<http://articles.latimes.com/2008/oct/06/nation/na-aviator6>
The article goes on:
"The crash was one of three early in McCain's aviation career in which
his flying skills and judgment were faulted or questioned by Navy
officials.
In his most serious lapse, McCain was "clowning" around in a Skyraider
over southern Spain about December 1961 and flew into electrical wires,
causing a blackout, according to McCain's own account as well as those
of naval officers and enlistees aboard the carrier Intrepid. In another
incident, in 1965, McCain crashed a T-2 trainer jet in Virginia."
>
> John McCain rose to the rank of captain (same as full colonel) in the
> US Navy after being tortured for years at the hands of sadistic
> Communists. He was on hot ready on the flight line of the Forrestal as
> that disastrous fire broke out killing many of my colleagues (I was
> Navy also during the VietNam conflict) as they fought the fire. Like
> him or not he has devoted his entire adult life to service of our
> country. We need more like John McCain and fewer like BHO.
>
> Additionally, 895 of 899 is no disgrace at Annapolis or West Point or
> the Air Force Academy. You have to be nominated by your Congressman to
> even start there day one. These young men and women are the best of
> the best that our country has to offer.
Alan Baker
Apr 4, 2012, 3:20:34 PM4/4/12
to
In article
<d5696556-54ff-44fd...@w5g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
> > something,˛ Tsurumi said in a telephone interview Wednesday. łBut I
changes his words?
Does it also change his words to CNN:
'A business school professor who taught George W. Bush at Harvard
University in the early 1970s says the future president told him that
family friends had pulled strings to get him into the Texas Air National
Guard.
Yoshi Tsurumi, in his first on-camera interview on the subject, told CNN
that Bush confided in him during an after-class hallway conversation
during the 1973-74 school year.
"He admitted to me that to avoid the Vietnam draft, he had his dad -- he
said 'Dad's friends' -- skip him through the long waiting list to get
him into the Texas National Guard," Tsurumi said. "He thought that was a
smart thing to do."'
<http://articles.cnn.com/2004-09-13/politics/bush.professor_1_george-w-bu
sh-president-bush-communications-director-dan-bartlett?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS>
And I guess that Harvard's own newspaper must change a man's words, too:
'Tsurumi‹now a professor of international business at Baruch College in
the City University of New York‹said he remembers the future president
as scoring in the bottom 10 percent of students in the class.
Thirty years after teaching the class, Tsurumi said the twenty-something
Bush's statements and behavior‹"always very shallow"‹still stand out in
his mind.
"Whenever [Bush] just bumped into me, he had some flippant statement to
make," said Tsurumi when reached at his home in Scarsdale, N.Y. "The
comments he made were revealing of his prejudice."
The White House did not reply to requests for comment on Bush's time at
HBS.
Tsurumi said he particularly recalls Bush's right-wing extremism at the
time, which he said was reflected in off-hand comments equating the New
Deal of the 1930s with socialism and the corporation-regulating
Securities and Exchange Commission with "an enemy of capitalism."
"I vividly remember that he made a comment saying that people are poor
because they're lazy," Tsurumi said.
Tsurumi also said Bush displayed a sense of arrogance about his
prominent family, including his father, former U.S. President George
H.W. Bush.
"[George W. Bush] didn't stand out as the most promising student,
but...he made it sure we understood how well he was connected," Tsurumi
said. "He wasn't bashful about how he was being pushed upward by Dad's
connections."
Tsurumi said that the younger Bush boasted that his father's political
string-pulling had gotten him to the top of the waiting list for the
Texas National Guard instead of serving in Vietnam.'
>
> Tell me about the nature of your service. I thought so.
Because only people who've served in the military can be honest, Ken?
<d5696556-54ff-44fd...@w5g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
kenpitts <ken....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 3, 5:26 pm, Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:45:34 -0700, kenpitts wrote:
> > > On Apr 2, 10:16 pm, Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > >> On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 19:55:31 -0700, kenpitts wrote:
> >
> > >>> Have you ever wondered how Obama was able to attend Pepperdine,
> > >>> Columbia and Harvard? His mother was on welfare. His academic
> > >>> records are sealed up as tight as they can be. Yet Obama wants
> > >>> Romney to reveal all his financials. You talk about a hypocrite!
> >
> > >> Well hell Ken, how do you think he got into those schools? He clearly
> > >> wasn't rich and a legacy admission like most shitty students that got
> > >> into college *cough*Wubya*cough*. It's almost as if, having no other
> > >> choice, he must have been a good student.
> >
> > > Misuse of scholarship for foreign student.
> >
> > > W earned an MBA at Harvard. He had a higher GPA than John Kerry at
> > > Yale. W earned his wings as a fighter pilot. They don't give any of
> > > those away, no matter who your daddy is.
> >
> > Actually they do. Even better, the rich kids got to train on aircraft
> > that everyone knew was never going to see action.
> >
> > Wubya was a legacy admission and too crappy a student to get into the
> > law school. Even with those lowered expectations, he did not thrive.
> >
> > łI donąt remember all the students in detail unless Iąm prompted by
> On Apr 3, 5:26 pm, Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:45:34 -0700, kenpitts wrote:
> > > On Apr 2, 10:16 pm, Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > >> On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 19:55:31 -0700, kenpitts wrote:
> >
> > >>> Have you ever wondered how Obama was able to attend Pepperdine,
> > >>> Columbia and Harvard? His mother was on welfare. His academic
> > >>> records are sealed up as tight as they can be. Yet Obama wants
> > >>> Romney to reveal all his financials. You talk about a hypocrite!
> >
> > >> Well hell Ken, how do you think he got into those schools? He clearly
> > >> wasn't rich and a legacy admission like most shitty students that got
> > >> into college *cough*Wubya*cough*. It's almost as if, having no other
> > >> choice, he must have been a good student.
> >
> > > Misuse of scholarship for foreign student.
> >
> > > W earned an MBA at Harvard. He had a higher GPA than John Kerry at
> > > Yale. W earned his wings as a fighter pilot. They don't give any of
> > > those away, no matter who your daddy is.
> >
> > Actually they do. Even better, the rich kids got to train on aircraft
> > that everyone knew was never going to see action.
> >
> > Wubya was a legacy admission and too crappy a student to get into the
> > law school. Even with those lowered expectations, he did not thrive.
> >
> > something,˛ Tsurumi said in a telephone interview Wednesday. łBut I
> > always remember two types of students. One is the very excellent
> > student, the type as a professor you feel honored to be working with.
> > Someone with strong social values, compassion and intellect ‹ the very
> > rare person you never forget. And then you remember students like George
> > Bush, those who are totally the opposite.˛
> >
> > http://www.salon.com/2004/09/16/tsurumi/
>
> Salon? LOL!
You think that the fact that the man happened to be quoted by Salon.com
> > student, the type as a professor you feel honored to be working with.
> > Someone with strong social values, compassion and intellect ‹ the very
> > rare person you never forget. And then you remember students like George
> > Bush, those who are totally the opposite.˛
> >
> > http://www.salon.com/2004/09/16/tsurumi/
>
> Salon? LOL!
changes his words?
Does it also change his words to CNN:
'A business school professor who taught George W. Bush at Harvard
University in the early 1970s says the future president told him that
family friends had pulled strings to get him into the Texas Air National
Guard.
Yoshi Tsurumi, in his first on-camera interview on the subject, told CNN
that Bush confided in him during an after-class hallway conversation
during the 1973-74 school year.
"He admitted to me that to avoid the Vietnam draft, he had his dad -- he
said 'Dad's friends' -- skip him through the long waiting list to get
him into the Texas National Guard," Tsurumi said. "He thought that was a
smart thing to do."'
<http://articles.cnn.com/2004-09-13/politics/bush.professor_1_george-w-bu
sh-president-bush-communications-director-dan-bartlett?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS>
And I guess that Harvard's own newspaper must change a man's words, too:
'Tsurumi‹now a professor of international business at Baruch College in
the City University of New York‹said he remembers the future president
as scoring in the bottom 10 percent of students in the class.
Thirty years after teaching the class, Tsurumi said the twenty-something
Bush's statements and behavior‹"always very shallow"‹still stand out in
his mind.
"Whenever [Bush] just bumped into me, he had some flippant statement to
make," said Tsurumi when reached at his home in Scarsdale, N.Y. "The
comments he made were revealing of his prejudice."
The White House did not reply to requests for comment on Bush's time at
HBS.
Tsurumi said he particularly recalls Bush's right-wing extremism at the
time, which he said was reflected in off-hand comments equating the New
Deal of the 1930s with socialism and the corporation-regulating
Securities and Exchange Commission with "an enemy of capitalism."
"I vividly remember that he made a comment saying that people are poor
because they're lazy," Tsurumi said.
Tsurumi also said Bush displayed a sense of arrogance about his
prominent family, including his father, former U.S. President George
H.W. Bush.
"[George W. Bush] didn't stand out as the most promising student,
but...he made it sure we understood how well he was connected," Tsurumi
said. "He wasn't bashful about how he was being pushed upward by Dad's
connections."
Tsurumi said that the younger Bush boasted that his father's political
string-pulling had gotten him to the top of the waiting list for the
Texas National Guard instead of serving in Vietnam.'
>
> Tell me about the nature of your service. I thought so.
Carbon
Apr 4, 2012, 6:44:56 PM4/4/12
to
Carbon
Apr 4, 2012, 6:59:39 PM4/4/12
to
couldn't get by on their own merit, strings were pulled.
BAR
Apr 4, 2012, 7:21:06 PM4/4/12
to
get a slot in aviation, he went surface, problem with his eyes. Usually
the aviation slots are consumed by the time they get to 150 in class
standing.
My cousin who graduated in '07, 2007, and was in the brigade command his
first class year graduated in the top 50 and he got aviation. He is
flying F/A-18 E's now for the USMC along with his brother who is doing
the same but, did go to the USNA. Legacy only goes so far.
BAR
Apr 4, 2012, 7:21:46 PM4/4/12
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> On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 18:06:37 -0700, kenpitts wrote:
> > On Apr 3, 5:26 pm, Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:45:34 -0700, kenpitts wrote:
> >>> On Apr 2, 10:16 pm, Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 19:55:31 -0700, kenpitts wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Have you ever wondered how Obama was able to attend Pepperdine,
> >>>>> Columbia and Harvard? His mother was on welfare. His academic
> >>>>> records are sealed up as tight as they can be. Yet Obama wants
> >>>>> Romney to reveal all his financials. You talk about a hypocrite!
> >>>>
> >>>> Well hell Ken, how do you think he got into those schools? He
> >>>> clearly wasn't rich and a legacy admission like most shitty
> >>>> students that got into college *cough*Wubya*cough*. It's almost as
> >>>> if, having no other choice, he must have been a good student.
> >>>
> >>> Misuse of scholarship for foreign student.
> >>>
> >>> W earned an MBA at Harvard. He had a higher GPA than John Kerry at
> >>> Yale. W earned his wings as a fighter pilot. They don't give any of
> >>> those away, no matter who your daddy is.
> >>
> >> Actually they do. Even better, the rich kids got to train on aircraft
> >> that everyone knew was never going to see action.
> >>
> >> Wubya was a legacy admission and too crappy a student to get into the
> >> law school. Even with those lowered expectations, he did not thrive.
> >>
> >> ?I don?t remember all the students in detail unless I?m prompted by
> > On Apr 3, 5:26 pm, Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:45:34 -0700, kenpitts wrote:
> >>> On Apr 2, 10:16 pm, Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 19:55:31 -0700, kenpitts wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Have you ever wondered how Obama was able to attend Pepperdine,
> >>>>> Columbia and Harvard? His mother was on welfare. His academic
> >>>>> records are sealed up as tight as they can be. Yet Obama wants
> >>>>> Romney to reveal all his financials. You talk about a hypocrite!
> >>>>
> >>>> Well hell Ken, how do you think he got into those schools? He
> >>>> clearly wasn't rich and a legacy admission like most shitty
> >>>> students that got into college *cough*Wubya*cough*. It's almost as
> >>>> if, having no other choice, he must have been a good student.
> >>>
> >>> Misuse of scholarship for foreign student.
> >>>
> >>> W earned an MBA at Harvard. He had a higher GPA than John Kerry at
> >>> Yale. W earned his wings as a fighter pilot. They don't give any of
> >>> those away, no matter who your daddy is.
> >>
> >> Actually they do. Even better, the rich kids got to train on aircraft
> >> that everyone knew was never going to see action.
> >>
> >> Wubya was a legacy admission and too crappy a student to get into the
> >> law school. Even with those lowered expectations, he did not thrive.
> >>
> >> something,? Tsurumi said in a telephone interview Wednesday. ?But I
> >> always remember two types of students. One is the very excellent
> >> student, the type as a professor you feel honored to be working with.
> >> Someone with strong social values, compassion and intellect ? the
> >> student, the type as a professor you feel honored to be working with.
> >> very rare person you never forget. And then you remember students
> >> like George Bush, those who are totally the opposite.?
> >>
> >> http://www.salon.com/2004/09/16/tsurumi/
> >
> > Salon? LOL!
> >
> > Tell me about the nature of your service. I thought so.
>
> You're funny.
You are pitiful.
> >> http://www.salon.com/2004/09/16/tsurumi/
> >
> > Salon? LOL!
> >
> > Tell me about the nature of your service. I thought so.
>
> You're funny.
BAR
Apr 4, 2012, 7:25:17 PM4/4/12
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Canadian Forces. Why?
I signed up for the Selective Service when I had to and I enlisted in
the USMCR and received an honorable discharge after the completion of my
contract.
Moderate
Apr 4, 2012, 8:22:37 PM4/4/12
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Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net> wrote:
> In article <1224902539355228896.7...@news.aioe.org>,
> Moderate <nos...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
>> As usual you have no idea what you are talking about. Sad, but funny.
>
> I know precisely what I'm talking about.
>
> The F-106 Delta Dagger was designed for the sole role of high altitude
> interception of strategic bombers. As such, it was never going to be
> deployed in Vietnam.
President Bush flew a F-102. It was used in Vietnam. Thanks for another
> In article <1224902539355228896.7...@news.aioe.org>,
> Moderate <nos...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
>> As usual you have no idea what you are talking about. Sad, but funny.
>
> I know precisely what I'm talking about.
>
> The F-106 Delta Dagger was designed for the sole role of high altitude
> interception of strategic bombers. As such, it was never going to be
> deployed in Vietnam.
laugh.
Howard Brazee
Apr 4, 2012, 9:47:39 PM4/4/12
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On 04 Apr 2012 22:59:39 GMT, Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>
wrote:
>His daddy was an admiral. As was the case with many rich kids who
>couldn't get by on their own merit, strings were pulled.
Yep. I will say that his troubles flying don't mean anything about
his ability to govern - but there's no way he would have succeeded as
an aviator without family connections.
And GWB's (unique in my experience) choice to not grab all of the
flying hours he could in the reserves had nothing to do with his
qualifications to be President.
I wouldn't want a president who hasn't experienced some kinds of screw
ups in his or her youth. I don't want a president who is confident
that he can't screw up again.
--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
- James Madison
wrote:
>His daddy was an admiral. As was the case with many rich kids who
>couldn't get by on their own merit, strings were pulled.
his ability to govern - but there's no way he would have succeeded as
an aviator without family connections.
And GWB's (unique in my experience) choice to not grab all of the
flying hours he could in the reserves had nothing to do with his
qualifications to be President.
I wouldn't want a president who hasn't experienced some kinds of screw
ups in his or her youth. I don't want a president who is confident
that he can't screw up again.
--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
- James Madison
Alan Baker
Apr 4, 2012, 11:02:16 PM4/4/12
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In article <537402130355277853.43...@news.aioe.org>,
"Operations with both the F-102A and TF-102A two-seater (which was used
in a Forward Air Control role because its two seats and 2.75 in/70 mm
rockets offered good versatility for the mission) in Vietnam until 1968
when all F-102 aircraft were sent back to the United States."
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_F-102_Delta_Dagger>
"In May 1968, Bush was commissioned into the Texas Air National
Guard.[30] After two years of active-duty service while training,[31] he
was assigned to Houston, flying Convair F-102s with the 147th
Reconnaissance Wing out of Ellington Field Joint Reserve Base.[30][32]"
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush#Texas_Air_National_Guard>
Thanks for playing.
in a Forward Air Control role because its two seats and 2.75 in/70 mm
rockets offered good versatility for the mission) in Vietnam until 1968
when all F-102 aircraft were sent back to the United States."
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_F-102_Delta_Dagger>
"In May 1968, Bush was commissioned into the Texas Air National
Guard.[30] After two years of active-duty service while training,[31] he
was assigned to Houston, flying Convair F-102s with the 147th
Reconnaissance Wing out of Ellington Field Joint Reserve Base.[30][32]"
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush#Texas_Air_National_Guard>
Thanks for playing.
MNMikeW
Apr 5, 2012, 11:40:26 AM4/5/12
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kenpitts wrote:
> Should we really be surprised? The intent was to incite racial
> tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest of
> their bias.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
>
> Ken
> Should we really be surprised? The intent was to incite racial
> tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest of
> their bias.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
>
What media bias? LOL!
MNMikeW
Apr 5, 2012, 11:50:24 AM4/5/12
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Alan Baker wrote:
> In article
> <db42f78b-3830-4ab2...@s7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> In article
> kenpitts<ken....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Should we really be surprised? The intent was to incite racial
>> tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest of
>> their bias.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
>>
>> Ken
>
> Yup.
>
>> Should we really be surprised? The intent was to incite racial
>> tensions. This will eventually be swept under the rug with the rest of
>> their bias.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/c3nzxg2
>>
>> Ken
>
>
> NBC shouldn't have done that.
>
> Next.
>
What, no boycotts? nobody's head on a stick? No firings? No calls to the
FCC? Oh, that's right, it wasn't Fox or Rush that did it.
Carbon
Apr 5, 2012, 9:21:26 PM4/5/12
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kenpitts
Apr 5, 2012, 10:17:51 PM4/5/12
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On Apr 5, 8:21 pm, Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:02:16 -0700, Alan Baker wrote:
> > In article <537402130355277853.438447nospam-nomail....@news.aioe.org>,
> On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:02:16 -0700, Alan Baker wrote:
> > Moderate <nos...@nomail.com> wrote:
> >> Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> >>> In article
> >>> <1224902539355228896.776592nospam-nomail....@news.aioe.org>,
> >>> Moderate <nos...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> As usual you have no idea what you are talking about. Sad, but
> >>>> funny.
>
> >>> I know precisely what I'm talking about.
>
> >>> The F-106 Delta Dagger was designed for the sole role of high
> >>> altitude interception of strategic bombers. As such, it was never
> >>> going to be deployed in Vietnam.
>
> >> President Bush flew a F-102. It was used in Vietnam. Thanks for
> >> another laugh.
>
> > "Operations with both the F-102A and TF-102A two-seater (which was
> > used in a Forward Air Control role because its two seats and 2.75
> > in/70 mm rockets offered good versatility for the mission) in Vietnam
> > until 1968 when all F-102 aircraft were sent back to the United
> > States."
>
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_F-102_Delta_Dagger>
>
> > "In May 1968, Bush was commissioned into the Texas Air National
> > Guard.[30] After two years of active-duty service while training,[31]
> > he was assigned to Houston, flying Convair F-102s with the 147th
> > Reconnaissance Wing out of Ellington Field Joint Reserve
> > Base.[30][32]"
>
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush#Texas_Air_National_Guard>
>
> > Thanks for playing.
>
> Well Immoderate, are you going to be man enough to admit you were wrong?
Nothing positive can ever be said about W with you leftists.
>
> >>>> As usual you have no idea what you are talking about. Sad, but
> >>>> funny.
>
> >>> I know precisely what I'm talking about.
>
> >>> The F-106 Delta Dagger was designed for the sole role of high
> >>> altitude interception of strategic bombers. As such, it was never
> >>> going to be deployed in Vietnam.
>
> >> President Bush flew a F-102. It was used in Vietnam. Thanks for
> >> another laugh.
>
> > "Operations with both the F-102A and TF-102A two-seater (which was
> > used in a Forward Air Control role because its two seats and 2.75
> > in/70 mm rockets offered good versatility for the mission) in Vietnam
> > until 1968 when all F-102 aircraft were sent back to the United
> > States."
>
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_F-102_Delta_Dagger>
>
> > "In May 1968, Bush was commissioned into the Texas Air National
> > Guard.[30] After two years of active-duty service while training,[31]
> > he was assigned to Houston, flying Convair F-102s with the 147th
> > Reconnaissance Wing out of Ellington Field Joint Reserve
> > Base.[30][32]"
>
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush#Texas_Air_National_Guard>
>
> > Thanks for playing.
>
> Well Immoderate, are you going to be man enough to admit you were wrong?
Ken
Moderate
Apr 5, 2012, 11:27:13 PM4/5/12
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know which aircraft the President flew. He also omitted the fact that Bush
volunteered for service in Vietnam and was denied. So no I won't lie and
say I was wrong.
Alan Baker
Apr 6, 2012, 12:10:59 AM4/6/12
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In article
<4365ea0b-587e-48f8...@b2g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
This isn't about positive or negative, Ken.
This is about the fact, that George W. Bush got himself flying an
aircraft that was already withdrawn from service in Vietnam before he
was even done training.
<4365ea0b-587e-48f8...@b2g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
This is about the fact, that George W. Bush got himself flying an
aircraft that was already withdrawn from service in Vietnam before he
was even done training.
Alan Baker
Apr 6, 2012, 12:11:46 AM4/6/12
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In article <87202546355375283.24...@news.aioe.org>,
Yes... ...I mixed up the F-102 Delta Dart with the actually somewhat
successful aircraft that replaced it: the F-106 Delta Dagger.
<yawn>
successful aircraft that replaced it: the F-106 Delta Dagger.
<yawn>
Horva...@net.net
Apr 6, 2012, 8:30:37 AM4/6/12
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 19:17:51 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken....@gmail.com>
wrote this crap:
>Nothing positive can ever be said about W with you leftists.
>
>Ken
Do YOU have a degree from Yale and Harvard? Do YOU fly jets and can
land them on an aircraft carrier? Do you even have a high school
degree and a driver's license?
Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares.
wrote this crap:
>Nothing positive can ever be said about W with you leftists.
>
>Ken
land them on an aircraft carrier? Do you even have a high school
degree and a driver's license?
Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares.
Horva...@net.net
Apr 6, 2012, 8:33:08 AM4/6/12
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On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 21:10:59 -0700, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
wrote this crap:
>
>This is about the fact, that George W. Bush got himself flying an
>aircraft that was already withdrawn from service in Vietnam before he
>was even done training.
That's what they were flying in the Texas National Guard at the time.
wrote this crap:
>
>This is about the fact, that George W. Bush got himself flying an
>aircraft that was already withdrawn from service in Vietnam before he
>was even done training.
John B.
Apr 6, 2012, 11:10:19 AM4/6/12
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On Apr 6, 8:30 am, Horvath1...@net.net wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 19:17:51 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
carrier.
> On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 19:17:51 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
> wrote this crap:
>
> >Nothing positive can ever be said about W with you leftists.
>
> >Ken
>
> Do YOU have a degree from Yale and Harvard? Do YOU fly jets and can
> land them on an aircraft carrier? Do you even have a high school
> degree and a driver's license?
>
> Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares.
ANG pilots are not in the Navy and don't learn to land planes on a
>
> >Nothing positive can ever be said about W with you leftists.
>
> >Ken
>
> Do YOU have a degree from Yale and Harvard? Do YOU fly jets and can
> land them on an aircraft carrier? Do you even have a high school
> degree and a driver's license?
>
> Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares.
carrier.
Horva...@net.net
Apr 6, 2012, 3:43:24 PM4/6/12
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On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 08:10:19 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
<john...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:
>On Apr 6, 8:30 am, Horvath1...@net.net wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 19:17:51 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
>> wrote this crap:
>>
>> >Nothing positive can ever be said about W with you leftists.
>>
>> >Ken
>>
>> Do YOU have a degree from Yale and Harvard? Do YOU fly jets and can
>> land them on an aircraft carrier? Do you even have a high school
>> degree and a driver's license?
>>
and land it on an aircraft carrier. There's nothing he can't do.
<john...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:
>On Apr 6, 8:30 am, Horvath1...@net.net wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 19:17:51 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
>> wrote this crap:
>>
>> >Nothing positive can ever be said about W with you leftists.
>>
>> >Ken
>>
>> Do YOU have a degree from Yale and Harvard? Do YOU fly jets and can
>> land them on an aircraft carrier? Do you even have a high school
>> degree and a driver's license?
>>
>ANG pilots are not in the Navy and don't learn to land planes on a
>carrier.
That's true. However I saw President George W. Bush fly a Navy jet
>carrier.
and land it on an aircraft carrier. There's nothing he can't do.
Lloyd
Apr 6, 2012, 3:57:27 PM4/6/12
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In article <alhun75e33j2p5h3t...@4ax.com>,
Which jet would that be and when?
Here's what he did that I found :
President Bush made a landing aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln Thursday,
arriving in the co-pilot's seat of a Navy S-3B Viking after making two
fly-bys of the carrier.
Here's the WIKI link to it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Mission_Accomplished_speech
Note that while he did 'land' on the deck, he wasn't piloting the plane.
Just a passenger.
Here's what he did that I found :
President Bush made a landing aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln Thursday,
arriving in the co-pilot's seat of a Navy S-3B Viking after making two
fly-bys of the carrier.
Here's the WIKI link to it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Mission_Accomplished_speech
Note that while he did 'land' on the deck, he wasn't piloting the plane.
Just a passenger.
Carbon
Apr 6, 2012, 7:05:52 PM4/6/12
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Vietnam when Bush graduated flight school and flew the required number
of hours to qualify for combat?
kenpitts
Apr 7, 2012, 9:46:12 AM4/7/12
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On Apr 6, 7:30 am, Horvath1...@net.net wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 19:17:51 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
cat-calls about him being dumb. He is anything but. They don't hand
out MBA's from Harvard without doing the required work, I don't care
who your daddy is. W's legacy was only at Yale and getting admitted as
a freshman is certainly a long shot from earning a degree. BTW, he
graduated from Yale with a higher GPA than John Kerry who never
suffers from these accusations about his intelligence. And it is
absolutely ridiculous to think the Bush family was planning to keep W
out of hostile action based on what planes the Texas National Guard
may have been using at the time. The Texas Guard could have been re-
equipped with F4's on a moment's notice without the Bushes having any
idea. And of course, earning wings on any fighter is a huge
accomplishment.
The only things I question. Was the F102 ever used for carrier
service? And did Guard pilots ever land on carriers? I thought it was
only Navy and Marines. BTW - I was an electronics tech on the Oriskany
CVA34. I have a basis to ask these questions.
Ken
> On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 19:17:51 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com>
> wrote this crap:
>
> >Nothing positive can ever be said about W with you leftists.
>
> >Ken
>
> Do YOU have a degree from Yale and Harvard? Do YOU fly jets and can
> land them on an aircraft carrier? Do you even have a high school
> degree and a driver's license?
>
> Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares.
You're responding to the wrong guy, horvath. I defend W against these
>
> >Nothing positive can ever be said about W with you leftists.
>
> >Ken
>
> Do YOU have a degree from Yale and Harvard? Do YOU fly jets and can
> land them on an aircraft carrier? Do you even have a high school
> degree and a driver's license?
>
> Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares.
cat-calls about him being dumb. He is anything but. They don't hand
out MBA's from Harvard without doing the required work, I don't care
who your daddy is. W's legacy was only at Yale and getting admitted as
a freshman is certainly a long shot from earning a degree. BTW, he
graduated from Yale with a higher GPA than John Kerry who never
suffers from these accusations about his intelligence. And it is
absolutely ridiculous to think the Bush family was planning to keep W
out of hostile action based on what planes the Texas National Guard
may have been using at the time. The Texas Guard could have been re-
equipped with F4's on a moment's notice without the Bushes having any
idea. And of course, earning wings on any fighter is a huge
accomplishment.
The only things I question. Was the F102 ever used for carrier
service? And did Guard pilots ever land on carriers? I thought it was
only Navy and Marines. BTW - I was an electronics tech on the Oriskany
CVA34. I have a basis to ask these questions.
Ken
Lloyd
Apr 7, 2012, 9:55:13 AM4/7/12
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In article
<5946f64a-9eae-4307...@v1g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Ah, the Oriskany! I remember her well. I was with VF-111, the
Sundowners in those days. They were flying F8's at the time. I
remember one of the Admirals really liked them and used to have a line
on the bottom of any of the message traffic that said :
" If you're out of F8's, you're out of fighters! "
I don't remember any Guard planes ever doing carrier landings, although
there were some Army pilots that did some carrier take-offs during WW2
as you might remember.
Horvath is referring to Bush riding in the co-pilot seat of an S3 and
landing on the Lincoln.
<5946f64a-9eae-4307...@v1g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Sundowners in those days. They were flying F8's at the time. I
remember one of the Admirals really liked them and used to have a line
on the bottom of any of the message traffic that said :
" If you're out of F8's, you're out of fighters! "
I don't remember any Guard planes ever doing carrier landings, although
there were some Army pilots that did some carrier take-offs during WW2
as you might remember.
Horvath is referring to Bush riding in the co-pilot seat of an S3 and
landing on the Lincoln.
kenpitts
Apr 7, 2012, 9:56:59 AM4/7/12
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His business history. Everything. Why can we not find out anything at
all about our current president? Could it be the information is so
damaging that his presidency would be immediately scuttled? How would
it look if we found out he used scholarships for foreign students at
Peperdine, Columbia and Harvard?
Ken
kenpitts
Apr 7, 2012, 10:16:59 AM4/7/12
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On Apr 7, 8:55 am, Lloyd <lloydpars...@me.com> wrote:
> In article
> <5946f64a-9eae-4307-9c05-71201670d...@v1g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Officer or enlisted?
Ken
> In article
> <5946f64a-9eae-4307-9c05-71201670d...@v1g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Ken
BAR
Apr 7, 2012, 10:36:27 AM4/7/12
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In article <0db6e357-cd7e-41b1-a4fb-
6989c6...@x17g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, ken....@gmail.com says...
Does it matter?
Officers get the glory while the troops get the shit.
6989c6...@x17g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, ken....@gmail.com says...
Officers get the glory while the troops get the shit.
Lloyd
Apr 7, 2012, 10:38:41 AM4/7/12
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In article
<0db6e357-cd7e-41b1...@x17g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
Enlisted. I was an ATR2 and ATR1 during my time with VF-111. I believe
that was '66 & '67.
<0db6e357-cd7e-41b1...@x17g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
that was '66 & '67.
kenpitts
Apr 7, 2012, 10:44:12 AM4/7/12
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> <0db6e357-cd7e-41b1-a4fb-6989c6ef2...@x17g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
We did similar work. I was ETR3 and also worked on crypto equipment.
Ken
Ken
kenpitts
Apr 7, 2012, 10:45:50 AM4/7/12
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On Apr 7, 9:36 am, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> In article <0db6e357-cd7e-41b1-a4fb-
> 6989c6ef2...@x17g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, ken.p...@gmail.com says...
Just curious. The culture is that I would look silly to ask him his
rate if he was an officer. He answered just like I thought he would.
He was an aviation electronics tech second class and first class.
Ken
> In article <0db6e357-cd7e-41b1-a4fb-
> 6989c6ef2...@x17g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, ken.p...@gmail.com says...
rate if he was an officer. He answered just like I thought he would.
He was an aviation electronics tech second class and first class.
Ken
Lloyd
Apr 7, 2012, 10:47:53 AM4/7/12
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In article
<7eb1733e-e11a-4fe0...@h20g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
Yep, similar. Even though I was radar trained, I didn't work on radar
equipment until much later in my career. Mostly Com/Nav equipment until
I transferred from the squadron to a newly formed missile repair
facility at NavMag Subic Bay, and then as an instructor with a missile
repair/handling school for a number of years in Jacksonville, FL.
<7eb1733e-e11a-4fe0...@h20g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
equipment until much later in my career. Mostly Com/Nav equipment until
I transferred from the squadron to a newly formed missile repair
facility at NavMag Subic Bay, and then as an instructor with a missile
repair/handling school for a number of years in Jacksonville, FL.
kenpitts
Apr 7, 2012, 10:56:37 AM4/7/12
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Mitchells taking off from carriers out of the Bay Area.
Ken
Lloyd
Apr 7, 2012, 10:59:01 AM4/7/12
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Yeah, I remember the flailing around about rank, rate and ratings from
some time ago. :)
I think the ratings got a bit of changing since you and I were in. I
think the aviation electronics ones are all rolled into AV (avionics)
now. I'm not sure, as I don't keep up.
My youngest daughter now has over 20 years in the Navy and is a YNC, her
husband also has more than 20 years and is an ABCS. She's on shore duty
in Norfolk, he's on a gator freighter out of there too.
I don't believe we have any officers in my family tree, or at least none
that I'm aware of. My granddad was Navy for some time, no one knows how
much time or exactly when. My dad is retired Navy, as am I.
Lots of military career types in my family in both the Navy and the
Army. One uncle was an E9 in the Army when he retired and was the
command sergeant at Presidio when he retired.
<76ef9602-426c-4ec6...@m13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
some time ago. :)
I think the ratings got a bit of changing since you and I were in. I
think the aviation electronics ones are all rolled into AV (avionics)
now. I'm not sure, as I don't keep up.
My youngest daughter now has over 20 years in the Navy and is a YNC, her
husband also has more than 20 years and is an ABCS. She's on shore duty
in Norfolk, he's on a gator freighter out of there too.
I don't believe we have any officers in my family tree, or at least none
that I'm aware of. My granddad was Navy for some time, no one knows how
much time or exactly when. My dad is retired Navy, as am I.
Lots of military career types in my family in both the Navy and the
Army. One uncle was an E9 in the Army when he retired and was the
command sergeant at Presidio when he retired.
Lloyd
Apr 7, 2012, 11:02:08 AM4/7/12
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Yep, that's what I was referring to. A truly one-way trip by some very
brave people. I never met Jimmy Doolittle, but my aunt worked for his
brother, Tommy, even dated him in his last few years.
<927ba1eb-c8f4-4f0c...@r9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
brave people. I never met Jimmy Doolittle, but my aunt worked for his
brother, Tommy, even dated him in his last few years.
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