>> Not according to his explanation. His "mistake" was in rounding off.
>> AN HOUR? You don't round off time by the hour in a marathon.
>>> It is a moot point anyway. In a comparison to Biden, Ryan is a
>>> Saint.
>> Possibly, but that's an opinion.
> Hypocrisy rules with you leftists.
Well. Let us document the stupid.
Another blanket generalization, "you leftists," is so broad that it
cannot possibly be true. You will argue about that, but of course you
are unable to grasp the innate foolishness of your argument.
And then there is the hypocrisy. You're giving a pass to some clown who
flat lied about the times he ran in marathons. Oh sorry, it was only one
marathon, and the time was 4+ hours--a time more appropriate for little
old ladies than your lying Adonis.
For the record, I cannot stand Joe Biden. That being said, this new
douchebag is no improvement.
>> Here's a few of Obama's mistakes according to Romney and Ryan's
>> record on them:
>> 1. Ryan voted for $700 billion TARP bailout 2. Ryan voted for the
>> auto industry bailout 3. Ryan voted for Medicare Part D 4. Ryan
>> voted for the highway bill that included the Bridge to Nowhere 5.
>> Ryan asked for stimulus funds for his constituents
>> Not to mention his Marathon time and the BS about Obama's cutting
>> Medicare Advantage, which should be in the Republican agenda.
> Obama is a verified liar. He voted for Tarp. Bought the Auto industry.
> Blew a trillion on nothing, Obama signed the Bill for the bridge to
> nowhere.
Why is it you never whine about all the Republicans who supported these
programs? For example, Paul Ryan.
>>>>> Really? Racist statements are OK for the VP?
>>>> Of course not. Lies are ok for the VP?
>>>> It's you who is a hypocrite.
>>> Biden is a race baiting buffoon.
>> Ryan is a two-faced liar.
>> Here's a few of Obama's mistakes according to Romney and Ryan's record
>> on them:
>> 1. Ryan voted for $700 billion TARP bailout
>> 2. Ryan voted for the auto industry bailout
>> 3. Ryan voted for Medicare Part D
>> 4. Ryan voted for the highway bill that included the Bridge to
>> Nowhere
>> 5. Ryan asked for stimulus funds for his constituents
>> Not to mention his Marathon time and the BS about Obama's cutting
>> Medicare Advantage, which should be in the Republican agenda.
>Obama is a verified liar. He voted for Tarp. Bought the Auto industry. Blew
>a trillion on nothing, Obama signed the Bill for the bridge to nowhere.
Well nutbag, what does it mean that the person running against the
Obama ticket helped him achieve all those awful things?
Can you say hypocrite? You should be able to, it's your personality.
:-)
> > > So he admits to marijuana. He has a strategy for dancing around the coke
> > > issue. Be honest for once: if he had never done coke he would never have
> > > had a "strategy".
> > He didn't admit to either.
> > Ken
> If he had never used cocaine, he would have said he never used cocaine.
I agree with John. If W never used cocaine, I assume he would have said
so. Personally, I don't blame him for not answering the question. Why
would someone admit to being a felon if he didn't have to.
The difference between W and Obama is that I have to assume that Bush is a
felon, but I know that Obama is a felon.
>>>> Nope, doesn't do that at all. To be a felon, you must be
>>>> convicted.
>>> OK, he admitted he committed a felony. Just sweep that under the
>>> rug.
>> No, he admitted (I understand--I've never looked into it) that he
>> used drugs. That doesn't make him a felon - with all the judicial
>> punishments that apply - unless he has been convicted.
>> Maybe we should have a show of hands of drug users past, present, and
>> future, in RSG. :-)
> You never looked into it?!? But you are OK making concrete
> conclusions. Nice.
Before you get headed down the wrong path again: Don is saying he never
investigated Obama's admission that he used drugs, including cocaine.
However if Obama's story is factual, he is still not a felon because he
has never been convicted of a felony.
>> Obama is a verified liar. He voted for Tarp. Bought the Auto industry. Blew
>> a trillion on nothing, Obama signed the Bill for the bridge to nowhere.
> Well nutbag, what does it mean that the person running against the
> Obama ticket helped him achieve all those awful things?
> Can you say hypocrite? You should be able to, it's your personality.
> :-)
Just pointing out that Obama is worse than the Repblican VP.
>>> Obama is a verified liar. He voted for Tarp. Bought the Auto
>>> industry. Blew a trillion on nothing, Obama signed the Bill for the
>>> bridge to nowhere.
>> Well nutbag, what does it mean that the person running against the
>> Obama ticket helped him achieve all those awful things?
>> Can you say hypocrite? You should be able to, it's your personality.
>> :-)
> Just pointing out that Obama is worse than the Repblican VP.
How can that be if Ryan voted for all those same programs?
>> You never looked into it?!? But you are OK making concrete
>> conclusions. Nice.
> Before you get headed down the wrong path again: Don is saying he never
> investigated Obama's admission that he used drugs, including cocaine.
> However if Obama's story is factual, he is still not a felon because he
> has never been convicted of a felony.
As usual you are still on the wrong path. Obama governs like a coke head.
>>> You never looked into it?!? But you are OK making concrete
>>> conclusions. Nice.
>> Before you get headed down the wrong path again: Don is saying he
>> never investigated Obama's admission that he used drugs, including
>> cocaine. However if Obama's story is factual, he is still not a
>> felon because he has never been convicted of a felony.
> As usual you are still on the wrong path. Obama governs like a coke
> head.
> >>>> Nope, doesn't do that at all. To be a felon, you must be
> >>>> convicted.
> >>> OK, he admitted he committed a felony. Just sweep that under the
> >>> rug.
> >> No, he admitted (I understand--I've never looked into it) that he
> >> used drugs. That doesn't make him a felon - with all the judicial
> >> punishments that apply - unless he has been convicted.
> >> Maybe we should have a show of hands of drug users past, present, and
> >> future, in RSG. :-)
> > You never looked into it?!? But you are OK making concrete
> > conclusions. Nice.
> Before you get headed down the wrong path again: Don is saying he never
> investigated Obama's admission that he used drugs, including cocaine.
> However if Obama's story is factual, he is still not a felon because he
> has never been convicted of a felony.
Wrong.
felon: "An individual who commits a crime of a serious nature, such as
Burglary or murder. A person who commits a felony.
West's Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2. Copyright 2008 The Gale
Group, Inc. All rights reserved."
>>> Obama is a verified liar. He voted for Tarp. Bought the Auto industry. Blew
>>> a trillion on nothing, Obama signed the Bill for the bridge to nowhere.
>> Well nutbag, what does it mean that the person running against the
>> Obama ticket helped him achieve all those awful things?
>> Can you say hypocrite? You should be able to, it's your personality.
>> :-)
>Just pointing out that Obama is worse than the Repblican VP.
Just pointing out an opinion, and yours is biased and doesn't mean
much.
>> >>>> Nope, doesn't do that at all. To be a felon, you must be
>> >>>> convicted.
>> >>> OK, he admitted he committed a felony. Just sweep that under the
>> >>> rug.
>> >> No, he admitted (I understand--I've never looked into it) that he
>> >> used drugs. That doesn't make him a felon - with all the judicial
>> >> punishments that apply - unless he has been convicted.
>> >> Maybe we should have a show of hands of drug users past, present, and
>> >> future, in RSG. :-)
>> > You never looked into it?!? But you are OK making concrete
>> > conclusions. Nice.
>> Before you get headed down the wrong path again: Don is saying he never
>> investigated Obama's admission that he used drugs, including cocaine.
>> However if Obama's story is factual, he is still not a felon because he
>> has never been convicted of a felony.
>Wrong.
>felon: "An individual who commits a crime of a serious nature, such as
>Burglary or murder. A person who commits a felony.
>West's Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2. Copyright 2008 The Gale
>Group, Inc. All rights reserved."
> > On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 11:46:36 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
> > > On Sunday, September 2, 2012 1:42:31 PM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:
> > >> On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 11:29:08 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
> > >>> On Sunday, September 2, 2012 1:23:32 PM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:
> > >>>> On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 11:17:00 -0700, KenPitts wrote:
> > >>>>> On Sunday, September 2, 2012 1:15:24 PM UTC-5, Lloyd wrote:
> > >>>>>> In article <alangbaker-1F4731.11085602092...@news.shawcable.net>,
> > >>>>>> Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> In article
> > >>>>>>> <e6f27b2f-8885-41af-9443-ba6f0514687d@googlegroups.com>,
> > >>>>>>> KenPitts <ken.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> So, in your world of fantasy, it is not a big deal that POTUS
> > >>>>>>>> is an admitted felon?
> > >>>>>>> Not if the felony is drug use, no. According to the common law,
> > >>>>>>> it shouldn't be a crime, much less a felony.
> > >>>>>> Uh, you are both off on a tangent.
> > >>>>>> 'felon' is a legal term. You cannot be a felon until you are
> > >>>>>> convicted of a felony.
> > >>>>> Obama has admitted to an act (possession of cocaine) that could
> > >>>>> get him convicted of a felony. Is that what we want to have as
> > >>>>> POTUS?
> > >>>> So you concede then that Obama is not an admitted felon... right?
> > >>> I admit that Obama admitted he did something (had cocaine in his
> > >>> possession) that could get him convicted of a felony.
> > >> So you were wrong to claim Obama was an admitted felon... right?
> > > So, you have nothing to say about Obama and his remark about there
> > > being 57 states in the US? He was probably high when he said it.
> > > Right?
> > What does that have to do with your bogus claim that Obama is an
> > admitted felon?
> Not bogus at all.
> Hawaii Cocaine Laws
> Code Section 329-14, et seq.; 712-1240, et seq.
> Possession 1/8-1 oz.: Class B felony; 1 oz. or more: Class A felony;
> Subsequent offense: Class A or B felony based on quantity
> Sale Any amount: Class B felony; 1/8 oz. or more, or any amount to a
> minor: Class A felony
> Possession of any amount of cocaine is a felony in Hawaii. That makes
> Obama an admitted felon. No doubt about it.
No. You just quoted something that says possession of "1. oz or more" is a felony. Hence less than an ounce is not.
-- Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
> >> Nope, doesn't do that at all. To be a felon, you must be convicted.
> >OK, he admitted he committed a felony. Just sweep that under the rug.
> No, he admitted (I understand--I've never looked into it) that he used
> drugs. That doesn't make him a felon - with all the judicial
> punishments that apply - unless he has been convicted.
> Maybe we should have a show of hands of drug users past, present, and
> future, in RSG. :-)
I've tried cocaine (wasn't thrilled; never bothered to try it again), magic mushrooms (meh), and I've smoked marijuana, but don't anymore, because I just don't like it.
I'm already happy enough.
:-)
-- Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
> > >> Nope, doesn't do that at all. To be a felon, you must be convicted.
> > >OK, he admitted he committed a felony. Just sweep that under the rug.
> > No, he admitted (I understand--I've never looked into it) that he used
> > drugs. That doesn't make him a felon - with all the judicial
> > punishments that apply - unless he has been convicted.
> > Maybe we should have a show of hands of drug users past, present, and
> > future, in RSG. :-)
> > -- > > Don Kirkman
> > dons...@charter.net
> Actually Obama admitted to using "blow" when he could afford it (his
> words). I have no doubt that this meant he used cocaine. In Hawaii,
> possession of cocaine, in any amount, is a felony. Therefore Obama
> admitted to committing a felony, which makes him a felon.
You are incorrect. Possession of an ounce or more is a felony in Hawaii.
-- Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
>>>> Nope, doesn't do that at all. To be a felon, you must be convicted.
>>> OK, he admitted he committed a felony. Just sweep that under the rug.
>> No, he admitted (I understand--I've never looked into it) that he used
>> drugs. That doesn't make him a felon - with all the judicial
>> punishments that apply - unless he has been convicted.
>> Maybe we should have a show of hands of drug users past, present, and
>> future, in RSG. :-)
>You never looked into it?!? But you are OK making concrete conclusions. >Nice.
Unless everyone else is lying he did admit it. There was no need for
me to research that independently. Actually, I have your own
statements that he did; can I trust that you were telling the truth?
Having settled that, we can get back to the legal definition of a
felon, which you and others have a hard time accepting, apparently.
-- Don Kirkman
dons...@charter.net
> >> Here's a few of Obama's mistakes according to Romney and Ryan's
> >> record on them:
> >> 1. Ryan voted for $700 billion TARP bailout 2. Ryan voted for the
> >> auto industry bailout 3. Ryan voted for Medicare Part D 4. Ryan
> >> voted for the highway bill that included the Bridge to Nowhere 5.
> >> Ryan asked for stimulus funds for his constituents
> >> Not to mention his Marathon time and the BS about Obama's cutting
> >> Medicare Advantage, which should be in the Republican agenda.
> > Obama is a verified liar. He voted for Tarp. Bought the Auto industry.
> > Blew a trillion on nothing, Obama signed the Bill for the bridge to
> > nowhere.
> Why is it you never whine about all the Republicans who supported these
> programs? For example, Paul Ryan.
> >>>> Nope, doesn't do that at all. To be a felon, you must be
> >>>> convicted.
> >>> OK, he admitted he committed a felony. Just sweep that under the
> >>> rug.
> >> No, he admitted (I understand--I've never looked into it) that he
> >> used drugs. That doesn't make him a felon - with all the judicial
> >> punishments that apply - unless he has been convicted.
> >> Maybe we should have a show of hands of drug users past, present, and
> >> future, in RSG. :-)
> > You never looked into it?!? But you are OK making concrete
> > conclusions. Nice.
> Before you get headed down the wrong path again: Don is saying he never
> investigated Obama's admission that he used drugs, including cocaine.
> However if Obama's story is factual, he is still not a felon because he
> has never been convicted of a felony.
Don is a weasel, ask him to define "investigation."
> > > You could find dozens of examples like this about Obama and Biden and leftists like carbon would not be concerned at all. With the left, these standards only apply to anyone who dares to challenge the Democrats at the polls. This morning, I am reminded of what happened to Sen Trent Lott from Mississippi when he was trying to brighten the 100th birthday of Sen Strom Thurmond of South Carolina. The same people who ran Lott out of town on a rail have no problem with the fact that Sen Robert Byrd of West Virginia is an actual former member of the KKK. He is even known about town as Sheets. If Byrd was a Republican, he could not get elected dog catcher. Hypocrites.
> > > FWIW, I think there are similar problems in Hussein's academic records that will not be released. I think the problems are with the financing that he utilized to attend Occidental, Columbia and Harvard while his mother was a welfare recipient.
> > > Happy Empty Chair Day!
> > > Ken
> > Strom Thurmond was an avowed segregationist although not a member of
> > the Klan (as far as I know). He was elected again and again as a
> > Republican, so your argument is, as usual, inane.
> He was also a Democrat when he was an active segregationist. A Democrat like George Wallace and Orville Faubus. Look them up.
> Should a 100 year old man who has dedicated his whole life to public service be shunned? Is that what you are saying? All I am saying is that Trent Lott should not have been treated the way he was when he was only trying to be nice to a 100 year old man on his birthday? If that is insane then I guess I am insane.
> See, you're doing it. You let Byrd slide yet you lash out at Thurmond.
> Ken
I didn't lash out at anybody. I was only pointing out your hypocrisy.
But arguing with you is like arguing with a 6-year-old.
> > > What Biden did was disgraceful and he paid a price for it. Moreover,
> > > democrats didn't defend him. If Paul Ryan shot someone in the head and
> > > 20 people said they saw him do it, some people here would say they
> > > were all lying liberals.
> > Wrong again. If he did that, bring charges and his days as a politician would be over.
> > These things that people like carbon is bleating about are nits. They all lie and they all say things that are not true. Two different things. Ryan has owned up to what he said about the Marathon. The others (like the GM plant) are matters of opinion. We conservatives love Paul Ryan. Let the chips fall where they may.
> > Ken
> One more time. Only Ryan knows if what he said about his time in the Marathon is a lie. A lie is a falsehood with intent of deception told when the person knows it is false.
> Ken
I know that what he said about his marathon time was a lie. He said he
ran a sub-three-hour marathon when in fact he ran it in over four
hours. No one who has ever run a marathon (I've run two) could make a
mistake of that magnitude. The difference between the time he claimed
and the time he ran is huge.
> > > > > On Sunday, September 2, 2012 9:06:24 PM UTC-5, la...@pivotforpower.com
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, September 2, 2012 9:33:49 AM UTC-7, Carbon wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:20:51 -0700, KenPitts wrote: > Regarding the
> > > > > > > Marathon time. Ryan has admitted his mis-statement. Was > it
> > > intentional
> > > > > > > and a case of self-aggrandizement? Only Ryan knows for > sure. It
> > > wasn't
> > > > > > > a "mis-statement." It was a lie.
> > > > > > More importantly, today the editorial page of the San Diego
> > > Union-Tribute
> > > > > > predicted a landslide victory for Romney. I suspect Wall Street is
> > > already
> > > > > > pricing that into stocks and bonds.
> > > > > > It is over except for the election. Get used to saying "president
> > > Romney"
> > > > > > Larry
> > > > > Obama is an admitted felony drug user and these lemmings are worried
> about
> > > > > how fast Ryan thinks he ran a foot race. Our economy is headed down the
> > > > > toilet with Hussein in charge and they are worried about that crap.
> > > Amazing.
> > > > No one is concerned with how fast he ran it, Ken. But why aren't you
> > > > concerned that the man to whom you want to give the reins of power lies
> > > > so easily?
> > > > --
> > > > Alan Baker
> > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > > > "If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
> > > > to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
> > > > sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
> > > Of course, you must be even more concerned about Joe Biden who borrowed a
> > > life history from a British politician and tried to pass it off as his own.
> > > "Biden lifted Kinnock's precise turns of phrase and his sequences of
> > > ideas—a degree of plagiarism that would qualify any student for failure,
> > > if not expulsion from school. But the even greater sin was to borrow
> > > biographical facts from Kinnock that, although true about Kinnock, didn't
> > > apply to Biden. Unlike Kinnock, Biden wasn't the first person in his
> > > family history to attend college, as he asserted; nor were his ancestors
> > > coal miners, as he claimed when he used Kinnock's words. Once exposed,
> > > Biden's campaign team managed to come up with a great-grandfather who had
> > > been a mining engineer, but he hardly fit the candidate's description of
> > > one who "would come up [from the mines] after 12 hours and play football."
> > > At any rate, Biden had delivered his offending remarks with an
> > > introduction that clearly implied he had come up with them himself and
> > > that they pertained to his own life."
> > What Biden did was disgraceful and he paid a price for it. Moreover,
> > democrats didn't defend him. If Paul Ryan shot someone in the head and
> > 20 people said they saw him do it, some people here would say they
> > were all lying liberals.
> Fair enough. But it's a bit disingenuous for someone to imply that Ryan
> is not fit to be VP when the sitting VP has told lies much more extensive
> than lying about his marathon time. There's something not right in
> Biden's head.
>>> In 2008 Obama promised the plant would be open for 100 years. He gets elected and the plant is closed solid. If he can give large pieces of GM to the UAW by fiat, seems like he could open the doors on the plant in question.
>>> Ken
>> That was easy. I guess USA today is lying too.
>> Leftists are so much into being literal. The problem is that Obama promised the plant would be open for 100 yrs if the govt "helped". Doesn't matter if it was already closed when he took office. If he can give large pieces of GM to the UAW by fiat, he could open the doors on that plant.
> "Obama did speak at the plant in February 2008, telling workers who had already faced layoffs that "if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years.""
> Not only is Baker a worthless troll and a psychopath stalker, he apparently is unable to read standard English.
> Ken
That plant was not closed in 2008. April 2009. Currently in standby mode.
>>>>> In 2008 Obama promised the plant would be open for 100 years. He gets
>>>>> elected and the plant is closed solid. If he can give large pieces of
> GM
>>>>> to the UAW by fiat, seems like he could open the doors on the plant in
>>>>> question.
>>>>> Ken
>>>> That was easy. I guess USA today is lying too.
>>>> Leftists are so much into being literal. The problem is that Obama
> promised
>>>> the plant would be open for 100 yrs if the govt "helped". Doesn't matter
> if
>>>> it was already closed when he took office. If he can give large pieces
> of
>>>> GM to the UAW by fiat, he could open the doors on that plant.
>>> "Obama did speak at the plant in February 2008, telling workers who had
>>> already faced layoffs that "if our government is there to support you, and
>>> give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that
>>> this plant will be here for another hundred years.""
>> And the government wasn't there to assist them, because the plant closed
>> before Obama took office.
>>> Not only is Baker a worthless troll and a psychopath stalker, he
> apparently
>>> is unable to read standard English.
>> LOL
>> The lie Ryan told is that the plant closed after Obama had taken office,
>> when it did not. The plant closed and laid off 1200 line workers in
>> December 2008, and 57 workers finishing a contract with Isuzu and thus
>> working a few more months don't change that. If they do, then the plant
>> is still open today because of the care-taking staff employed there.
>> --
>> Alan Baker
>> Vancouver, British Columbia
> At the time Obama took office, the plant was still open. What's more, the
> government, thanks to the bailout, was a majority owner of GM at the time.
> If the government was there to assist them, they could have retooled the
> plant and kept it open as Obama had said. Obama did not come through for
> these GM workers. When the main production line was shut down is
> irrelevant because after Obama took office, he could have made GM retool
> the plant and start up a new production line as he promised.
There were still workers doing a job there. It was OPEN period.
>>>>>> In 2008 Obama promised the plant would be open for 100 years. He gets
>>>>>> elected and the plant is closed solid. If he can give large pieces of
>> GM
>>>>>> to the UAW by fiat, seems like he could open the doors on the plant
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> question.
>>>>>> Ken
>>>>> That was easy. I guess USA today is lying too.
>>>>> Leftists are so much into being literal. The problem is that Obama
>> promised
>>>>> the plant would be open for 100 yrs if the govt "helped". Doesn't
>>>>> matter
>> if
>>>>> it was already closed when he took office. If he can give large pieces
>> of
>>>>> GM to the UAW by fiat, he could open the doors on that plant.
>>>> "Obama did speak at the plant in February 2008, telling workers who had
>>>> already faced layoffs that "if our government is there to support you,
>>>> and
>>>> give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition,
>>>> that
>>>> this plant will be here for another hundred years.""
>>> And the government wasn't there to assist them, because the plant closed
>>> before Obama took office.
>>>> Not only is Baker a worthless troll and a psychopath stalker, he
>> apparently
>>>> is unable to read standard English.
>>> LOL
>>> The lie Ryan told is that the plant closed after Obama had taken office,
>>> when it did not. The plant closed and laid off 1200 line workers in
>>> December 2008, and 57 workers finishing a contract with Isuzu and thus
>>> working a few more months don't change that. If they do, then the plant
>>> is still open today because of the care-taking staff employed there.
>>> --
>>> Alan Baker
>>> Vancouver, British Columbia
>> At the time Obama took office, the plant was still open. What's more, the
>> government, thanks to the bailout, was a majority owner of GM at the time.
>> If the government was there to assist them, they could have retooled the
>> plant and kept it open as Obama had said. Obama did not come through for
>> these GM workers. When the main production line was shut down is
>> irrelevant because after Obama took office, he could have made GM retool
>> the plant and start up a new production line as he promised.
> No, the plant had stopped operating during the Bush era. Calling a
> skeleton staff of 57 maintenance people keeping a plant "open" is a lie
> straight from the Ryan lexicon.
>> In 2008 Obama promised the plant would be open for 100 years. He gets elected and the plant is closed solid. If he can give large pieces of GM to the UAW by fiat, seems like he could open the doors on the plant in question.
>> Ken
> Regarding the Marathon time. Ryan has admitted his mis-statement. Was it intentional and a case of self-aggrandizement? Only Ryan knows for sure.
> What else do you leftist lemmings have for us?
> If this is the worst you have, then you have nothing. It is less than nothing when compared with felony possession of a controlled substance.
