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brad herschel

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May 9, 2010, 12:31:50 PM5/9/10
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If confirmed, the Supreme Court of the USA would have the following
aboard:

1. Three Jews, Justices Breyer, Ginsburg, and Kagan,

2. Two lesbians, Sotomayor, Kagan

3. One Jewish homosexual, Justice Breyer.

4. One gentile eunuch, Justice Souter (The Justice has never dated,
lived with mother for many years)

Many believe the Court is now in a "tilt" position.

Brad

Lady Veteran

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May 9, 2010, 1:59:29 PM5/9/10
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<Claps Hands>

Maybe now we can get something done...I guess you are too young to
remember Earl Warren. Conservative People wanted him as a justice
because he had such conservative view of the law.

He turned around and helped overthrow Jim Crow in Brown vs the Board
of Education.

Morale? Don't judge a Justice by the past and by what you THINK you
know.

You only have some of the picture.

LV

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ca1houn

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May 9, 2010, 5:34:42 PM5/9/10
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A Jew I can handle, Lesbian no problem she just don’t like dick but, A
fatty never. What does this have to do with qualifications?

bkn...@conramp.net

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May 9, 2010, 7:47:02 PM5/9/10
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On Sun, 9 May 2010 09:31:50 -0700 (PDT), brad herschel
<bradhe...@gmail.com> wrote:

Any that read your crap KNOW that you're in a "tilt" position.

BK

Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS

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May 9, 2010, 11:26:32 PM5/9/10
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Bammer he lub quotas.

Al

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May 9, 2010, 11:40:14 PM5/9/10
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Lady Veteran wrote:

> On Sun, 9 May 2010 09:31:50 -0700 (PDT), brad herschel
> <bradhe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > http://chanceseales.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/elena-kagan1.jpg
> >
> > If confirmed, the Supreme Court of the USA would have the following
> > aboard:
> >
> > 1. Three Jews, Justices Breyer, Ginsburg, and Kagan,
> >
> > 2. Two lesbians, Sotomayor, Kagan
> >
> > 3. One Jewish homosexual, Justice Breyer.
> >
> > 4. One gentile eunuch, Justice Souter (The Justice has never
> > dated, lived with mother for many years)
> >
> > Many believe the Court is now in a "tilt" position.
> >
> > Brad
>
>
> <Claps Hands>

Complaints-To: www.powerusenet.com/docs/dmca.html

I figured you would applaud the lesbian part, bull dyke.

>
> Maybe now we can get something done...I guess you are too young to
> remember Earl Warren. Conservative People wanted him as a justice
> because he had such conservative view of the law.
>
> He turned around and helped overthrow Jim Crow in Brown vs the Board
> of Education.
>
> Morale? Don't judge a Justice by the past and by what you THINK you
> know.

Behold the Wordsmith!

>
> You only have some of the picture.

Who is this fugly bull dyke?

http://fatreality.netfirms.com/blobbi.htm

Joe Ballerd

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May 10, 2010, 12:05:28 AM5/10/10
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How much would you pay to fuck her? Tell us about your fantasies man,
let it all out before your pent up fantasies are taken out on kids. I
can't guarantee I will listen but you'll still get the benefits of
venting.

Lady Veteran

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May 10, 2010, 12:09:03 AM5/10/10
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On Mon, 10 May 2010 03:40:14 +0000 (UTC), "Al" <a...@666.net> wrote:

>Lady Veteran wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 9 May 2010 09:31:50 -0700 (PDT), brad herschel
>> <bradhe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > http://chanceseales.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/elena-kagan1.jpg
>>
>>

>> <Claps Hands>
>
>Complaints-To: www.powerusenet.com/docs/dmca.html
>
>I figured you would applaud the lesbian part, bull dyke.

ab...@eternal-september.org

It figures that an idiot is talking out of his butt. Stupidity at a
new level.

Come out of your cyber closet and face me COWARD.

You balless wonders are really hard up aren't you? I am not your
mother and I will thank you to not confuse me with the female that
should have left you in the toilet where you landed after birth.


>
>>
>> Maybe now we can get something done...I guess you are too young to
>> remember Earl Warren. Conservative People wanted him as a justice
>> because he had such conservative view of the law.
>>
>> He turned around and helped overthrow Jim Crow in Brown vs the Board
>> of Education.
>>
>> Morale? Don't judge a Justice by the past and by what you THINK you
>> know.
>
>Behold the Wordsmith!

Yes, the Wordsmith is human-You have to climb up a high hill just to
be on par with me COWARD.

Why do you keep running away from a 53 year old woman? Could it be
that your mouth is writing checks that your butt cannot cash.

I heard you were born but first and you have been talking that way
ever sense.

Come out into the light and take your medicine.

You just prove that life is wasted on idiots.


>
>
>
>> You only have some of the picture.
>
>Who is this fugly bull dyke?

That is a character that was created by the no-nads idiots of SSFA.

It only exists between your ears where there is a mighty echo because
of all the empty space in there.

>

And NO you cannot chase me around asking for a date. I don't care how
many flowers are in your hair.

Lady Veteran

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May 10, 2010, 12:11:05 AM5/10/10
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Nothing. it gives idiots a reason to be when they can reach out and
share their idiocy with someone. Makes them all warm and fuzzy to
hurt someone-the more pain the better.

Superdave

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May 10, 2010, 12:51:38 AM5/10/10
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does doing a SCJ trophy rival W ?

Superdave

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May 10, 2010, 12:53:25 AM5/10/10
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She would be the third Jewish justice along with six Catholics.

With Stevens' retirement, the court will have no Protestants, the most prevalent
denomination in the U.S.

Humm, no atheists ?

I guess God is in control afterall !

On Sun, 9 May 2010 09:31:50 -0700 (PDT), brad herschel <bradhe...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>http://chanceseales.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/elena-kagan1.jpg

Trevor Smithson

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May 10, 2010, 2:59:09 PM5/10/10
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On Sun, 9 May 2010 09:31:50 -0700 (PDT), brad herschel <bradhe...@gmail.com> wrote:

Your post is ridiculous.

That said, it's odd that the current court is made up of six Catholics and three Jews, all of them
Harvard and Yale graduates. Such a uniform result is strange, even disconcerting in a nation of 300
million people of wildly diverse backgrounds. And there are some outstanding state schools here.

F. Kurgan Gringioni

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May 11, 2010, 1:28:41 AM5/11/10
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"Trevor Smithson" <trevor_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> That said, it's odd that the current court is made up of six Catholics and
> three Jews, all of them
> Harvard and Yale graduates. Such a uniform result is strange, even
> disconcerting in a nation of 300
> million people of wildly diverse backgrounds. And there are some
> outstanding state schools here.

Jobs after law school are very dependent upon what school a lawyer goes to.

Can't get nominated for the Supreme Court without getting the right
preparatory jobs.

Hor...@net.net

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May 11, 2010, 6:28:41 PM5/11/10
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On Mon, 10 May 2010 22:28:41 -0700, "F. Kurgan Gringioni"
<kgrin...@hotmail.com> wrote this crap:


She never went to law school. She was never a judge, and she was
never even a lawyer.


Vote for Palin-Brown in 2012. Repeal the continuing nightmares.


Hor...@Horvath.net

My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
ultimate power in the universe."

bkn...@conramp.net

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May 11, 2010, 7:58:17 PM5/11/10
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On Tue, 11 May 2010 17:28:41 -0500, Hor...@net.net wrote:


>
>She never went to law school. She was never a judge, and she was
>never even a lawyer.

Well, you're one for three, which is way above your normal average.

Idiot.

BK

Hor...@net.net

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May 11, 2010, 10:16:25 PM5/11/10
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On Tue, 11 May 2010 18:58:17 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
crap:

I rechecked. She did attend Harvard Law School. I don't see where
she passed the bar or was a judge.

>Idiot.

Dumbass.

Vote for Palin-Brown in 2012. Repeal the nightmares.

bkn...@conramp.net

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May 11, 2010, 10:40:13 PM5/11/10
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On Tue, 11 May 2010 21:16:25 -0500, Hor...@net.net wrote:

>On Tue, 11 May 2010 18:58:17 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
>crap:
>
>>On Tue, 11 May 2010 17:28:41 -0500, Hor...@net.net wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>She never went to law school. She was never a judge, and she was
>>>never even a lawyer.
>>
>>Well, you're one for three, which is way above your normal average.
>
>I rechecked. She did attend Harvard Law School. I don't see where
>she passed the bar or was a judge.
>
>>Idiot.
>
>Dumbass.

Check again. Its real easy for anyone that isn't stupid. She was
never a judge, but besides being dean of the Harvard Law School, took
a position in private practice as an associate at the Washington,
D.C., law firm of Williams & .

Do some simple research before continuing to make a fool of yourself.

BK

F. Kurgan Gringioni

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May 11, 2010, 11:05:36 PM5/11/10
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<Hor...@net.net> wrote in message
news:qn3ku556moomuhp1q...@4ax.com...

> On Tue, 11 May 2010 18:58:17 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
> crap:
>
>>On Tue, 11 May 2010 17:28:41 -0500, Hor...@net.net wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>She never went to law school. She was never a judge, and she was
>>>never even a lawyer.
>>
>>Well, you're one for three, which is way above your normal average.
>
> I rechecked. She did attend Harvard Law School. I don't see where
> she passed the bar or was a judge.

She's serving as Solicitor General right now. The Solicitor General
represents the federal government in cases heard before the Supreme Court.

A Solicitor General has to possess an extremely keen legal mind with regards
to constitutional law. It's not just a job that gets handed to anyone as a
political favor. They have to be confirmed by the Senate.

Hor...@net.net

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May 12, 2010, 1:43:47 AM5/12/10
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On Tue, 11 May 2010 21:40:13 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
crap:


>>I rechecked. She did attend Harvard Law School. I don't see where
>>she passed the bar or was a judge.
>>
>>>Idiot.
>>
>>Dumbass.
>
>Check again. Its real easy for anyone that isn't stupid. She was
>never a judge, but besides being dean of the Harvard Law School, took
>a position in private practice as an associate at the Washington,
>D.C., law firm of Williams & .
>
>Do some simple research before continuing to make a fool of yourself.

I did, dumbass. She graduated from Harvard law school, but never
actually practiced law. By which I mean she never went in front of a
judge. She was a, "Judaical Assistant," whatever that is.

Is this the kind of person you want on the Supreme Court?

BTW I already know your answer. Screw you. I'm going golfing,
dumbass.

Hor...@net.net

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May 12, 2010, 1:47:35 AM5/12/10
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On Tue, 11 May 2010 20:05:36 -0700, "F. Kurgan Gringioni"
<kgrin...@hotmail.com> wrote this crap:

>She's serving as Solicitor General right now. The Solicitor General

>represents the federal government in cases heard before the Supreme Court.
>
>A Solicitor General has to possess an extremely keen legal mind with regards
>to constitutional law. It's not just a job that gets handed to anyone as a
>political favor. They have to be confirmed by the Senate.


Squeak squeak squeak... That's the sound of a little violin playing
for you.

Real men don't even know what a solicitor general does. It's probably
someone found on a dark street corner.

Vote for Palin-Brown in 2012. Repeal the nightmare.

F. Kurgan Gringioni

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May 12, 2010, 2:27:42 AM5/12/10
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<Hor...@net.net> wrote in message
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>
>>She's serving as Solicitor General right now. The Solicitor General
>>represents the federal government in cases heard before the Supreme Court.
>>
>>A Solicitor General has to possess an extremely keen legal mind with
>>regards
>>to constitutional law. It's not just a job that gets handed to anyone as a
>>political favor. They have to be confirmed by the Senate.
>
>
> Squeak squeak squeak... That's the sound of a little violin playing
> for you.
>
> Real men don't even know what a solicitor general does. It's probably
> someone found on a dark street corner.

The solicitor general represents the federal government in cases where the
federal government is either a plaintiff or a defendent before the Supreme
Court. In other words:

THE SOLICITOR GENERAL ARGUES CASES BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT.

capiche?

F. Kurgan Gringioni

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<Hor...@net.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 11 May 2010 21:40:13 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
> crap:
>
>
>>>I rechecked. She did attend Harvard Law School. I don't see where
>>>she passed the bar or was a judge.
>>>
>>>>Idiot.
>>>
>>>Dumbass.
>>
>>Check again. Its real easy for anyone that isn't stupid. She was
>>never a judge, but besides being dean of the Harvard Law School, took
>>a position in private practice as an associate at the Washington,
>>D.C., law firm of Williams & .
>>
>>Do some simple research before continuing to make a fool of yourself.
>
> I did, dumbass. She graduated from Harvard law school, but never
> actually practiced law. By which I mean she never went in front of a
> judge. She was a, "Judaical Assistant," whatever that is.


She is currently the Solicitor General.

The solicitor general represents the federal government in cases where the
federal government is either a plaintiff or a defendent before the Supreme
Court. In other words:

THE SOLICITOR GENERAL ARGUES CASES BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT. Kagan is the
lawyer presenting arguments for the Federal Government.

capiche?

BAR

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May 12, 2010, 8:20:26 AM5/12/10
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In article <hsdhs9$rdt$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
kgrin...@hotmail.com says...

Exactly which cases did she stand before the supreme court and represent
the US? I think you will find that she sent other lawyer to argue the
cases before the supreme court. Kagan's only time in the SCOTUS was as a
clerk and maybe on a tour.

bkn...@conramp.net

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On Wed, 12 May 2010 00:43:47 -0500, Hor...@net.net wrote:

>On Tue, 11 May 2010 21:40:13 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
>crap:
>
>
>>>I rechecked. She did attend Harvard Law School. I don't see where
>>>she passed the bar or was a judge.
>>>
>>>>Idiot.
>>>
>>>Dumbass.
>>
>>Check again. Its real easy for anyone that isn't stupid. She was
>>never a judge, but besides being dean of the Harvard Law School, took
>>a position in private practice as an associate at the Washington,
>>D.C., law firm of Williams & .
>>
>>Do some simple research before continuing to make a fool of yourself.
>
>I did, dumbass. She graduated from Harvard law school, but never
>actually practiced law. By which I mean she never went in front of a
>judge. She was a, "Judaical Assistant," whatever that is.

Another absolute ignorant statement. Of course she's tried cases as a
lawyer, she's the Solicitor General of the United States.


>
>Is this the kind of person you want on the Supreme Court?

That, I'm not sure of.


>
>BTW I already know your answer. Screw you. I'm going golfing,
>dumbass.

Right. Please regale us with more of your dreams.

BK

bkn...@conramp.net

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On Wed, 12 May 2010 00:47:35 -0500, Hor...@net.net wrote:

>On Tue, 11 May 2010 20:05:36 -0700, "F. Kurgan Gringioni"
><kgrin...@hotmail.com> wrote this crap:
>
>>She's serving as Solicitor General right now. The Solicitor General
>>represents the federal government in cases heard before the Supreme Court.
>>
>>A Solicitor General has to possess an extremely keen legal mind with regards
>>to constitutional law. It's not just a job that gets handed to anyone as a
>>political favor. They have to be confirmed by the Senate.
>
>
>Squeak squeak squeak... That's the sound of a little violin playing
>for you.
>
>Real men don't even know what a solicitor general does.

Great self-description.

BK

Moderate

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"F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgrin...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Has she ever won a case?


F. Kurgan Gringioni

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"BAR" <sc...@you.com> wrote in message
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>> Court. In other words:
>>
>> THE SOLICITOR GENERAL ARGUES CASES BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT. Kagan is the
>> lawyer presenting arguments for the Federal Government.
>>
>> capiche?
>
> Exactly which cases did she stand before the supreme court and represent
> the US? I think you will find that she sent other lawyer to argue the
> cases before the supreme court. Kagan's only time in the SCOTUS was as a
> clerk and maybe on a tour.

http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/05/10/who-is-elena-kagan/

Cases argued before the Supreme Court as Solicitor General of the United
States:

Citizens United v. FEC. September 9, 2009

Salazar v. Buono October 7, 2009

Free Enterprise Fund v. PCAOB December 7, 2009

United States v. Comstock January 12, 2010

Holder v. Humanitarian Law Project February 23, 2010

Robertson v. United States March 31, 2010

MNMikeW

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<bkn...@conramp.net> wrote in message
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Never a judge and a associate on a law firm. Wow, real SCOTUS material
there. Chicago cronyism at its finest.


bkn...@conramp.net

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May 12, 2010, 10:58:14 AM5/12/10
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On Wed, 12 May 2010 09:52:20 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMi...@aol.com>
wrote:

>

>Never a judge and a associate on a law firm. Wow, real SCOTUS material
>there. Chicago cronyism at its finest.
>

Before you get your right-wing panties in a wad you might want to know
that she's considered too conservative for some liberals.

BK

Moderate

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May 12, 2010, 11:01:04 AM5/12/10
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"F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgrin...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Well I know she lost her first case against the FEC and she lost the second
case of Salazar v Buono. The Salzar v Buono involved the cross
memorializing WWI dead that was stolen this week.


bkn...@conramp.net

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May 12, 2010, 11:06:36 AM5/12/10
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On Wed, 12 May 2010 10:01:04 -0500, "Moderate" <no_spam_@no_mail.com>
wrote:

She should've lost those cases. Remember that the Solicitor General's
office has to represent the Federal Government when it has been wrong
in lower cases.

BK

MNMikeW

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<bkn...@conramp.net> wrote in message
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LOL! That is what the liberal media is desperately trying to portray her as.


MNMikeW

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"Moderate" <no_spam_@no_mail.com> wrote in message
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I hope they catch those assholes and nail them to a cross.


F. Kurgan Gringioni

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"MNMikeW" <MNMi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> Never a judge and a associate on a law firm. Wow, real SCOTUS material
> there. Chicago cronyism at its finest.

Dean of Harvard Law School and Solicitor General.

Those positions are much harder to come by. There's only one of each. There
are thousands of judges.

Solicitor General, in particular, stands out. The SG argues cases ONLY
before the Supreme Court, therefore, the SG must be extremely well versed in
constitutional law. It's in a different galaxy than the garden variety
amublance chasing or home construction litigation that most legal litigators
find themselves practicing.

There is not an instance of a position in the private legal sector which
qualifies an individual for serving on the SCOTUS more than the position of
Solicitor General.

Another reason Solicitor General stands out is that the SG has to be
approved by the US Senate.

MNMikeW

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May 12, 2010, 1:25:40 PM5/12/10
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"F. Kurgan Gringioni" <kgrin...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hsekkt$udr$1...@news.eternal-september.org...

>
> "MNMikeW" <MNMi...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:84vtl5...@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> Never a judge and a associate on a law firm. Wow, real SCOTUS material
>> there. Chicago cronyism at its finest.
>
>
>
> Dean of Harvard Law School and Solicitor General.
>
There's some other prominent politician that went to Harvard. Can't recall
his name, but I think he was a jr. senator in Chicago at one time.


bkn...@conramp.net

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May 12, 2010, 1:27:58 PM5/12/10
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On Wed, 12 May 2010 12:25:40 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMi...@aol.com>
wrote:

So? If you go back and check every appointment of every President
you'll find the same situations. they're going to appoint those with
whom they're closely acquainted if possible.

BK

John B.

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On May 11, 10:16 pm, Horv...@net.net wrote:
> On Tue, 11 May 2010 18:58:17 -0500, bkni...@conramp.net wrote this
> crap:

>
> >On Tue, 11 May 2010 17:28:41 -0500, Horv...@net.net wrote:
>
> >>She never went to law school.  She was never a judge, and she was
> >>never even a lawyer.
>
> >Well, you're one for three, which is way above your normal average.
>
> I rechecked.  She did attend Harvard Law School.  I don't see where
> she passed the bar or was a judge.
>
She was not a judge. It's kind of hard to be Solicitor General of the
United States without passing the bar exam. But who knows? Maybe she's
a Muslim illegal alien like Obama.

BTW, you don't have to be a lawyer to sit on the Supreme Court.

John B.

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On May 12, 8:20 am, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> In article <hsdhs9$rd...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> kgringi...@hotmail.com says...
>
>
>
>
>
> > <Horv...@net.net> wrote in message
> >news:gifku55pb80v3d138...@4ax.com...
> > > On Tue, 11 May 2010 21:40:13 -0500, bkni...@conramp.net wrote this

> > > crap:
>
> > >>>I rechecked.  She did attend Harvard Law School.  I don't see where
> > >>>she passed the bar or was a judge.
>
> > >>>>Idiot.
>
> > >>>Dumbass.
>
> > >>Check again.  Its real easy for anyone that isn't stupid.  She was
> > >>never a judge, but besides being dean of the Harvard Law School, took
> > >>a position in private practice as an associate at the Washington,
> > >>D.C., law firm of Williams & .
>
> > >>Do some simple research before continuing to make a fool of yourself.
>
> > > I did, dumbass.  She graduated from Harvard law school, but never
> > > actually practiced law.  By which I mean she never went in front of a
> > > judge.  She was a, "Judaical Assistant," whatever that is.
>
> > She is currently the Solicitor General.
>
> > The solicitor general represents the federal government in cases where the
> > federal government is either a plaintiff or a defendent before the Supreme
> > Court. In other words:
>
> > THE SOLICITOR GENERAL ARGUES CASES BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT. Kagan is the
> > lawyer presenting arguments for the Federal Government.
>
> > capiche?
>
> Exactly which cases did she stand before the supreme court and represent
> the US? I think you will find that she sent other lawyer to argue the
> cases before the supreme court. Kagan's only time in the SCOTUS was as a
> clerk and maybe on a tour.

Sure, Bert. I'm sure you have mounds of evidence for this.

John B.

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On May 12, 10:52 am, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...@aol.com> wrote:
> <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote in message
>
> news:jt4ku5puenlmgc1ek...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 11 May 2010 21:16:25 -0500, Horv...@net.net wrote:
>
> >>On Tue, 11 May 2010 18:58:17 -0500, bkni...@conramp.net wrote this
> >>crap:

>
> >>>On Tue, 11 May 2010 17:28:41 -0500, Horv...@net.net wrote:
>
> >>>>She never went to law school.  She was never a judge, and she was
> >>>>never even a lawyer.
>
> >>>Well, you're one for three, which is way above your normal average.
>
> >>I rechecked.  She did attend Harvard Law School.  I don't see where
> >>she passed the bar or was a judge.
>
> >>>Idiot.
>
> >>Dumbass.
>
> > Check again.  Its real easy for anyone that isn't stupid.  She was
> > never a judge, but besides being dean of the Harvard Law School, took
> > a position in private practice as an associate at the Washington,
> > D.C., law firm of Williams & .
>
> > Do some simple research before continuing to make a fool of yourself.
>
> > BK
>
> Never a judge and a associate on a law firm. Wow, real SCOTUS material
> there. Chicago cronyism at its finest.

Dean of the Harvard Law School and U.S. Solicitor General. There have
been lots of justices who were never judges.

MNMikeW

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<bkn...@conramp.net> wrote in message
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I believe last time it was tried was Bush and Harriet Miers. That worked out
well.


MNMikeW

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"John B." <john...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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==================
Name a few.


bkn...@conramp.net

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On Wed, 12 May 2010 13:22:21 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMi...@aol.com>
wrote:

>
>"John B." <john...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>Dean of the Harvard Law School and U.S. Solicitor General. There have


>been lots of justices who were never judges.
>
>==================
>Name a few.
>

John Marshall, William Rehnquist, Louis Brandeis, Earl Warren, William
O. Douglas, Harlan Fiske Stone, Robert Jackson, Felix Frankfurter,
Joseph Story and Roger Taney.

That enough?

BK

MNMikeW

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<bkn...@conramp.net> wrote in message
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That works. But only 2 since 1969. All 2010 members have judicial
experience.


bkn...@conramp.net

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On Wed, 12 May 2010 14:07:01 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMi...@aol.com>
wrote:

Which means very little since it isn't a requirement. Forty of the
111 men and women to serve on the high court since 1789 had no
judicial experience. That's 36%. In fact, it isn't even required
that a justice possess a law degree.


BK

MNMikeW

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<bkn...@conramp.net> wrote in message
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Yes but of those 40, only 2 since 1969. So it does seem to have become more
important in recent years.


bkn...@conramp.net

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On Wed, 12 May 2010 15:11:17 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMi...@aol.com>
wrote:

Not necessarily. It may just be a happenstance according to who made
those appointments. There's no empirical proof of either.

BK

Hor...@net.net

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On Wed, 12 May 2010 10:43:18 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
<john...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:

>
>BTW, you don't have to be a lawyer to sit on the Supreme Court.

Of course now you don't have to be a US citizen to be the resident.

Vote for Palin-Brown in 2012. Repeal the nightmares.


Hor...@Horvath.net

My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
ultimate power in the universe."

gray asphalt

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Just curious ... what does solicitor general do?

<Hor...@net.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 11 May 2010 21:40:13 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
> crap:
>
>


>>>I rechecked. She did attend Harvard Law School. I don't see where
>>>she passed the bar or was a judge.
>>>
>>>>Idiot.
>>>
>>>Dumbass.
>>
>>Check again. Its real easy for anyone that isn't stupid. She was
>>never a judge, but besides being dean of the Harvard Law School, took
>>a position in private practice as an associate at the Washington,
>>D.C., law firm of Williams & .
>>
>>Do some simple research before continuing to make a fool of yourself.
>

> I did, dumbass. She graduated from Harvard law school, but never
> actually practiced law. By which I mean she never went in front of a
> judge. She was a, "Judaical Assistant," whatever that is.
>

> Is this the kind of person you want on the Supreme Court?
>

> BTW I already know your answer. Screw you. I'm going golfing,
> dumbass.
>

gray asphalt

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If Obama had nominated Jesus, the Republicans
would have said that he was born in a foreign country, that
he is out of touch with the business world and that
he has extreme religious writings attibuted to him
and that he is anti-free market, eg chasing the money
changers out of the temple.

"MNMikeW" <MNMi...@aol.com> wrote in message

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Carbon

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On Wed, 12 May 2010 13:21:18 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> <bkn...@conramp.net> wrote in message
> news:b6plu5tvnb4otv6sa...@4ax.com...
>
>> So? If you go back and check every appointment of every President
>> you'll find the same situations. they're going to appoint those with
>> whom they're closely acquainted if possible.
>
> I believe last time it was tried was Bush and Harriet Miers. That
> worked out well.

The obvious difference being that Kagan is much more qualified for the
job. She's going to get the nomination anyway, so you may as well give up
on the smear campaign.

F. Kurgan Gringioni

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It's always been this way.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/yale-and-harvard-at-the-suprem.html

Yale and Harvard at the Supreme Court

Assuming President Obama wins confirmation of Solicitor General Elena Kagan
to the Supreme Court, that august body will be exclusively filled with
judges who earned their law degrees at Harvard or Yale.

<snip><end>

Howard Brazee

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On 13 May 2010 01:52:46 GMT, Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>
wrote:

>The obvious difference being that Kagan is much more qualified for the
>job. She's going to get the nomination anyway, so you may as well give up
>on the smear campaign.

The smear campaign isn't about her, it's about the future.

It's funny that none of the last 5 Republican presidents would be able
to be nominated today - not even Reagan. Good news for the
Democrats, but bad news for the country.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

F. Kurgan Gringioni

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"Carbon" <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/05/12/ken-starr-defends-elena-kagan-as-very-qualified/

Ken Starr Defends Elena Kagan as 'Very Qualified'

As Senate Republicans intensified their criticism Wednesday of Elena Kagan's
qualifications to join the U.S. Supreme Court, the nominee got a vote of
confidence from an unlikely source -- former independent counsel Ken Starr.

Starr led the investigation into then-President Bill Clinton's Whitewater
real estate deals and the Monica Lewinsky scandal. He previously served as
solicitor general under President George H.W. Bush, the same post that Kagan
currently holds in the Obama administration.

In an interview Wednesday on MSNBC, Starr called Kagan "so smart and so
able" and defended her lack of judicial experience by noting that a majority
of the members of Supreme Court never served as a judge before joining the
court.

Starr, who is the outgoing dean of Pepperdine University's law school,
called Kagan "an outstanding teacher, a wonderful academic, a very
successful dean at the Harvard Law School . . . so she's going to bring a
lot of skills to bear."

He also praised her as intellectually honest and added, "She's so bright,
everyone knows that. She's the smartest-kid-on-the-block kind of person."

As for the criticism that Kagan has received from Senate Republicans in the
days after her nomination, Starr laughed off accusations that she is an
activist or a radical. "That's politics, and unfortunately confirmation
politics have been very ugly, with a few happy interludes, every since the
nomination of Judge Robert Bork."

Starr did encourage senators to vigorously probe what he called "legitimate"
issues, like Kagan's defense of Harvard's policy banning military recruiters
from its career services process because of the ban on gays in the armed
forces.

But overall, Starr said, "President Obama has chosen someone who is very
qualified."

Hor...@net.net

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On Wed, 12 May 2010 16:53:22 -0700, "gray asphalt"
<dont...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:

>Just curious ... what does solicitor general do?

Pretty obvious. She goes to a military base and stands on a street
corner soliciting generals.

gray asphalt

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How can a fat person be a good Supreme Court Justice?
A fat guy yes, but a fat woman? I'm a great American.

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John B.

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On May 12, 3:07 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...@aol.com> wrote:
> <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote in message
>
> news:hotlu5tdpr6ide3la...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 12 May 2010 13:22:21 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...@aol.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >>"John B." <johnb...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >>Dean of the Harvard Law School and U.S. Solicitor General. There have
> >>been lots of justices who were never judges.
>
> >>==================
> >>Name a few.
>
> > John Marshall, William Rehnquist, Louis Brandeis, Earl Warren, William
> > O. Douglas, Harlan Fiske Stone, Robert Jackson, Felix Frankfurter,
> > Joseph Story and Roger Taney.
>
> > That enough?
>
> > BK
>
> That works. But only 2 since 1969. All 2010 members have judicial
> experience.

So?

John B.

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On May 12, 7:53 pm, "gray asphalt" <dontwr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just curious ... what does  solicitor general do?
>
> <Horv...@net.net> wrote in message
>
> news:gifku55pb80v3d138...@4ax.com...
>
> > On Tue, 11 May 2010 21:40:13 -0500, bkni...@conramp.net wrote this

> > crap:
>
> >>>I rechecked.  She did attend Harvard Law School.  I don't see where
> >>>she passed the bar or was a judge.
>
> >>>>Idiot.
>
> >>>Dumbass.
>
> >>Check again.  Its real easy for anyone that isn't stupid.  She was
> >>never a judge, but besides being dean of the Harvard Law School, took
> >>a position in private practice as an associate at the Washington,
> >>D.C., law firm of Williams & .
>
> >>Do some simple research before continuing to make a fool of yourself.
>
> > I did, dumbass.  She graduated from Harvard law school, but never
> > actually practiced law.  By which I mean she never went in front of a
> > judge.  She was a, "Judaical Assistant," whatever that is.
>
> > Is this the kind of person you want on the Supreme Court?
>
> > BTW I already know your answer.  Screw you.  I'm going golfing,
> > dumbass.
>
> > Vote for Palin-Brown in 2012.  Repeal the nightmares.
>
> >        Horv...@Horvath.net

>
> > My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
> > ultimate power in the universe."

Argues for the government in the Supreme Court.

F. Kurgan Gringioni

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"MNMikeW" <MNMi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> That works. But only 2 since 1969. All 2010 members have judicial
> experience.


The Solicitor General has been nicknamed the "10th Justice". It's easy to
see why. The SG *only* deals in cases which are going to be heard by the
SCOTUS.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solicitor_General_of_the_United_States

The United States Solicitor General is the person appointed to represent the
Government of the United States before the Supreme Court of the United
States. Currently, the Solicitor General is Elena Kagan, who was confirmed
by the United States Senate on March 19, 2009.

The Solicitor General determines the legal position that the United States
will take in the Supreme Court. In addition to supervising and conducting
cases in which the government is a party, the Solicitor General's office
also files amicus curiae briefs in cases in which the federal government has
a significant interest in the legal issue. The Solicitor General's office
argues on behalf of the government in virtually every case in which the
United States is a party, and also argues in most of the cases in which the
government has filed an amicus brief. In the federal courts of appeals, the
Office of the Solicitor General reviews cases decided against the United
States and determines whether the government will seek review in the Supreme
Court. The Solicitor General's office also reviews cases decided against the
United States in the federal district courts and approves every case in
which the government files an appeal.

<snip><end>

Moderate

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"John B." <john...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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So far Kagan is 0-2 in her job as SG.


John B.

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On May 14, 9:25 am, "Moderate" <no_spam_@no_mail.com> wrote:
> "John B." <johnb...@gmail.com> wrote in message

What do you expect? She works for a Democratic administration and
SCOTUS is dominated by conservatives. Are you guys going to come up
with an intelligent argument against her nomination, or just continue
with the petty sniping?

Moderate

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*****************************************************

I simply stated a fact. You evidently prefer opinion.


BAR

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In article <d8f82294-476a-4d15-b15a-8b2cb0fc4764
@n15g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com says...

> > Argues for the government in the Supreme Court.
> >
> > So far Kagan is 0-2 in her job as SG.
>
> What do you expect? She works for a Democratic administration and
> SCOTUS is dominated by conservatives. Are you guys going to come up
> with an intelligent argument against her nomination, or just continue
> with the petty sniping?

Would you hire her to represent you in a civil action if she hasn't ever
won a case?


John B.

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On May 14, 5:08 pm, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> In article <d8f82294-476a-4d15-b15a-8b2cb0fc4764
> @n15g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...

>
> > > Argues for the government in the Supreme Court.
>
> > > So far Kagan is 0-2 in her job as SG.
>
> > What do you expect? She works for a Democratic administration and
> > SCOTUS is dominated by conservatives. Are you guys going to come up
> > with an intelligent argument against her nomination, or just continue
> > with the petty sniping?
>
> Would you hire her to represent you in a civil action if she hasn't ever
> won a case?

Obama didn't nominate her to be a trial lawyer. The fact that she has
argued two cases before the court and lost them both says absolutely
nothing about her fitness to be a justice.

BAR

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In article <91d17f65-d2a0-421b-98d8-45adb30a59e3
@v37g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com says...

You can't answer a direct question can you?


Carbon

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On Fri, 14 May 2010 18:47:46 -0400, BAR wrote:
> In article <91d17f65-d2a0-421b-98d8-45adb30a59e3
> @v37g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com says...
>> On May 14, 5:08 pm, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
>>> In article <d8f82294-476a-4d15-b15a-8b2cb0fc4764
>>> @n15g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...
>>>
>>>> What do you expect? She works for a Democratic administration and
>>>> SCOTUS is dominated by conservatives. Are you guys going to come up
>>>> with an intelligent argument against her nomination, or just
>>>> continue with the petty sniping?
>>>
>>> Would you hire her to represent you in a civil action if she hasn't
>>> ever won a case?
>>
>> Obama didn't nominate her to be a trial lawyer. The fact that she has
>> argued two cases before the court and lost them both says absolutely
>> nothing about her fitness to be a justice.
>
> You can't answer a direct question can you?

Give it up. You don't know the first damned thing about her.

BAR

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In article <4bede375$0$4831$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...

>
> On Fri, 14 May 2010 18:47:46 -0400, BAR wrote:
> > In article <91d17f65-d2a0-421b-98d8-45adb30a59e3
> > @v37g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com says...
> >> On May 14, 5:08ᅵpm, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> >>> In article <d8f82294-476a-4d15-b15a-8b2cb0fc4764
> >>> @n15g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...
> >>>
> >>>> What do you expect? She works for a Democratic administration and
> >>>> SCOTUS is dominated by conservatives. Are you guys going to come up
> >>>> with an intelligent argument against her nomination, or just
> >>>> continue with the petty sniping?
> >>>
> >>> Would you hire her to represent you in a civil action if she hasn't
> >>> ever won a case?
> >>
> >> Obama didn't nominate her to be a trial lawyer. The fact that she has
> >> argued two cases before the court and lost them both says absolutely
> >> nothing about her fitness to be a justice.
> >
> > You can't answer a direct question can you?
>
> Give it up. You don't know the first damned thing about her.

What do you know about her?


Carbon

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Probably almost as little as you. On the other hand, I'm not the one
ranting that she's unqualified.

John B.

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On May 14, 6:47 pm, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> In article <91d17f65-d2a0-421b-98d8-45adb30a59e3
> @v37g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...

>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 14, 5:08 pm, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> > > In article <d8f82294-476a-4d15-b15a-8b2cb0fc4764
> > > @n15g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...
>
> > > > > Argues for the government in the Supreme Court.
>
> > > > > So far Kagan is 0-2 in her job as SG.
>
> > > > What do you expect? She works for a Democratic administration and
> > > > SCOTUS is dominated by conservatives. Are you guys going to come up
> > > > with an intelligent argument against her nomination, or just continue
> > > > with the petty sniping?
>
> > > Would you hire her to represent you in a civil action if she hasn't ever
> > > won a case?
>
> > Obama didn't nominate her to be a trial lawyer. The fact that she has
> > argued two cases before the court and lost them both says absolutely
> > nothing about her fitness to be a justice.
>
> You can't answer a direct question can you?

You asked if I would hire one of the most brilliant legal minds in the
country to represent me. I would if I could afford her.

BAR

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In article <4bede734$0$4831$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...

>
> On Fri, 14 May 2010 23:57:41 +0000, Carbon wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 May 2010 18:47:46 -0400, BAR wrote:
> >> In article <91d17f65-d2a0-421b-98d8-45adb30a59e3
> >> @v37g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com says...
> >>> On May 14, 5:08ᅵpm, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> >>>> In article <d8f82294-476a-4d15-b15a-8b2cb0fc4764
> >>>> @n15g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...
> >>>>
> >>>>> What do you expect? She works for a Democratic administration and
> >>>>> SCOTUS is dominated by conservatives. Are you guys going to come up
> >>>>> with an intelligent argument against her nomination, or just
> >>>>> continue with the petty sniping?
> >>>>
> >>>> Would you hire her to represent you in a civil action if she hasn't
> >>>> ever won a case?
> >>>
> >>> Obama didn't nominate her to be a trial lawyer. The fact that she has
> >>> argued two cases before the court and lost them both says absolutely
> >>> nothing about her fitness to be a justice.
> >>
> >> You can't answer a direct question can you?
> >
> > Give it up. You don't know the first damned thing about her.
>
> Probably almost as little as you. On the other hand, I'm not the one
> ranting that she's unqualified.

I never said she was unqualified. Nobody knows enough about her yet to
make that distinction. But, based upon what informaiton is available she
is on the unqualified side of the fence.


Carbon

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You certainly don't.

> But, based upon what informaiton is available she is on the
> unqualified side of the fence.

First you claim it isn't possible to know if she's qualified, then you
immediately claim she's unqualified. What a load.

John B.

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On May 15, 11:57 am, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> In article <4bede734$0$4831$9a6e1...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,

> nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 14 May 2010 23:57:41 +0000, Carbon wrote:
> > > On Fri, 14 May 2010 18:47:46 -0400, BAR wrote:
> > >> In article <91d17f65-d2a0-421b-98d8-45adb30a59e3
> > >> @v37g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...

> > >>> On May 14, 5:08 pm, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> > >>>> In article <d8f82294-476a-4d15-b15a-8b2cb0fc4764
> > >>>> @n15g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...
>
> > >>>>> What do you expect? She works for a Democratic administration and
> > >>>>> SCOTUS is dominated by conservatives. Are you guys going to come up
> > >>>>> with an intelligent argument against her nomination, or just
> > >>>>> continue with the petty sniping?
>
> > >>>> Would you hire her to represent you in a civil action if she hasn't
> > >>>> ever won a case?
>
> > >>> Obama didn't nominate her to be a trial lawyer. The fact that she has
> > >>> argued two cases before the court and lost them both says absolutely
> > >>> nothing about her fitness to be a justice.
>
> > >> You can't answer a direct question can you?
>
> > > Give it up. You don't know the first damned thing about her.
>
> > Probably almost as little as you. On the other hand, I'm not the one
> > ranting that she's unqualified.
>
> I never said she was unqualified. Nobody knows enough about her yet to
> make that distinction. But, based upon what informaiton is available she
> is on the unqualified side of the fence.

She is exceptionally well-qualified according to Ken Starr.

BAR

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In article <c3bb808e-e860-45d4-98ec-5ac5acc960b5
@p17g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com says...

>
> On May 15, 11:57ᅵam, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> > In article <4bede734$0$4831$9a6e1...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> > nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Fri, 14 May 2010 23:57:41 +0000, Carbon wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 14 May 2010 18:47:46 -0400, BAR wrote:
> > > >> In article <91d17f65-d2a0-421b-98d8-45adb30a59e3
> > > >> @v37g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...
> > > >>> On May 14, 5:08ᅵpm, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> > > >>>> In article <d8f82294-476a-4d15-b15a-8b2cb0fc4764
> > > >>>> @n15g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...
> >
> > > >>>>> What do you expect? She works for a Democratic administration and
> > > >>>>> SCOTUS is dominated by conservatives. Are you guys going to come up
> > > >>>>> with an intelligent argument against her nomination, or just
> > > >>>>> continue with the petty sniping?
> >
> > > >>>> Would you hire her to represent you in a civil action if she hasn't
> > > >>>> ever won a case?
> >
> > > >>> Obama didn't nominate her to be a trial lawyer. The fact that she has
> > > >>> argued two cases before the court and lost them both says absolutely
> > > >>> nothing about her fitness to be a justice.
> >
> > > >> You can't answer a direct question can you?
> >
> > > > Give it up. You don't know the first damned thing about her.
> >
> > > Probably almost as little as you. On the other hand, I'm not the one
> > > ranting that she's unqualified.
> >
> > I never said she was unqualified. Nobody knows enough about her yet to
> > make that distinction. But, based upon what informaiton is available she
> > is on the unqualified side of the fence.
>
> She is exceptionally well-qualified according to Ken Starr.

Now Ken Starr's opinion matters?

John B.

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May 16, 2010, 10:24:44 AM5/16/10
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On May 16, 8:06 am, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> In article <c3bb808e-e860-45d4-98ec-5ac5acc960b5
> @p17g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...

>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 15, 11:57 am, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> > > In article <4bede734$0$4831$9a6e1...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> > > nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>
> > > > On Fri, 14 May 2010 23:57:41 +0000, Carbon wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 14 May 2010 18:47:46 -0400, BAR wrote:
> > > > >> In article <91d17f65-d2a0-421b-98d8-45adb30a59e3
> > > > >> @v37g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...
> > > > >>> On May 14, 5:08 pm, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>> In article <d8f82294-476a-4d15-b15a-8b2cb0fc4764
> > > > >>>> @n15g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...
>
> > > > >>>>> What do you expect? She works for a Democratic administration and
> > > > >>>>> SCOTUS is dominated by conservatives. Are you guys going to come up
> > > > >>>>> with an intelligent argument against her nomination, or just
> > > > >>>>> continue with the petty sniping?
>
> > > > >>>> Would you hire her to represent you in a civil action if she hasn't
> > > > >>>> ever won a case?
>
> > > > >>> Obama didn't nominate her to be a trial lawyer. The fact that she has
> > > > >>> argued two cases before the court and lost them both says absolutely
> > > > >>> nothing about her fitness to be a justice.
>
> > > > >> You can't answer a direct question can you?
>
> > > > > Give it up. You don't know the first damned thing about her.
>
> > > > Probably almost as little as you. On the other hand, I'm not the one
> > > > ranting that she's unqualified.
>
> > > I never said she was unqualified. Nobody knows enough about her yet to
> > > make that distinction. But, based upon what informaiton is available she
> > > is on the unqualified side of the fence.
>
> > She is exceptionally well-qualified according to Ken Starr.
>
> Now Ken Starr's opinion matters?

It does to you, doesn't it? Are you not interested in the views of
people who share your ideology?

William Clark

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May 16, 2010, 12:25:08 PM5/16/10
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In article <MPG.2659a9c9...@news.giganews.com>,
BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:

> In article <c3bb808e-e860-45d4-98ec-5ac5acc960b5
> @p17g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com says...
> >
> > On May 15, 11:57�am, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> > > In article <4bede734$0$4831$9a6e1...@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> > > nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Fri, 14 May 2010 23:57:41 +0000, Carbon wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 14 May 2010 18:47:46 -0400, BAR wrote:
> > > > >> In article <91d17f65-d2a0-421b-98d8-45adb30a59e3
> > > > >> @v37g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...

It always did to you.

Until now, that is.

Howard Brazee

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May 16, 2010, 12:44:27 PM5/16/10
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This fall, the Supreme Court and the last 4 presidents have all gotten
degrees from Harvard or Yale.

Is elitism our biggest problem here?

John B.

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May 16, 2010, 3:03:38 PM5/16/10
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On May 16, 12:44 pm, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
> This fall, the Supreme Court and the last 4 presidents have all gotten
> degrees from Harvard or Yale.
>
> Is elitism our biggest problem here?
>
What's wrong with elitism? The Supreme Court and the White House are
no places for mediocrity (although the voters and some presidents seem
to think otherwise from time to time). SC justices should be the best
and brightest legal minds in the country.

Howard Brazee

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May 16, 2010, 4:49:12 PM5/16/10
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On Sun, 16 May 2010 12:03:38 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
<john...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> This fall, the Supreme Court and the last 4 presidents have all gotten
>> degrees from Harvard or Yale.
>>
>> Is elitism our biggest problem here?
>>
>What's wrong with elitism? The Supreme Court and the White House are
>no places for mediocrity (although the voters and some presidents seem
>to think otherwise from time to time). SC justices should be the best
>and brightest legal minds in the country.

There are plenty of colleges that provide as good of an education.
When there is only a limited set of paths towards a goal, we can miss
a lot of important stuff.

MNMikeW

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May 18, 2010, 11:09:21 AM5/18/10
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"Carbon" <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4bede734$0$4831$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...

"Harriet Miers has had a distinguished career as a lawyer, but since her
experience does not include serving as a judge, we have yet to know her
views on many of the critical constitutional issues facing our country
today. In the coming weeks, we'll need as much information and forthright
testimony from Ms. Miers as possible so that the U.S. Senate can make an
educated and informed decision on her nomination to the Supreme Court."

Barack Obama - 2005.


John B.

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May 18, 2010, 5:06:06 PM5/18/10
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On May 18, 11:09 am, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...@aol.com> wrote:
> "Carbon" <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4bede734$0$4831$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 14 May 2010 23:57:41 +0000, Carbon wrote:
> >> On Fri, 14 May 2010 18:47:46 -0400, BAR wrote:
> >>> In article <91d17f65-d2a0-421b-98d8-45adb30a59e3
> >>> @v37g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...

> >>>> On May 14, 5:08 pm, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> >>>>> In article <d8f82294-476a-4d15-b15a-8b2cb0fc4764
> >>>>> @n15g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...
>
> >>>>>> What do you expect? She works for a Democratic administration and
> >>>>>> SCOTUS is dominated by conservatives. Are you guys going to come up
> >>>>>> with an intelligent argument against her nomination, or just
> >>>>>> continue with the petty sniping?
>
> >>>>> Would you hire her to represent you in a civil action if she hasn't
> >>>>> ever won a case?
>
> >>>> Obama didn't nominate her to be a trial lawyer. The fact that she has
> >>>> argued two cases before the court and lost them both says absolutely
> >>>> nothing about her fitness to be a justice.
>
> >>> You can't answer a direct question can you?
>
> >> Give it up. You don't know the first damned thing about her.
>
> > Probably almost as little as you. On the other hand, I'm not the one
> > ranting that she's unqualified.
>
> "Harriet Miers has had a distinguished career as a lawyer, but since her
> experience does not include serving as a judge, we have yet to know her
> views on many of the critical constitutional issues facing our country
> today. In the coming weeks, we'll need as much information and forthright
> testimony from Ms. Miers as possible so that the U.S. Senate can make an
> educated and informed decision on her nomination to the Supreme Court."
>
> Barack Obama - 2005.

He was being diplomatic. Miers was completely unfit for the court and
everyone knew it - including Republicans.

MNMikeW

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May 18, 2010, 5:30:50 PM5/18/10
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"John B." <john...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d2201625-31f8-4021...@y12g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...

MNMikeW

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May 18, 2010, 5:33:46 PM5/18/10
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"John B." <john...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d2201625-31f8-4021...@y12g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...

==================================

Kagan could be the next Miers.


Carbon

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May 18, 2010, 7:29:10 PM5/18/10
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On Tue, 18 May 2010 10:09:21 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> "Carbon" <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4bede734$0$4831$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
>> Probably almost as little as you. On the other hand, I'm not the one
>> ranting that she's unqualified.
>
> "Harriet Miers has had a distinguished career as a lawyer, but since
> her experience does not include serving as a judge, we have yet to
> know her views on many of the critical constitutional issues facing
> our country today. In the coming weeks, we'll need as much information
> and forthright testimony from Ms. Miers as possible so that the U.S.
> Senate can make an educated and informed decision on her nomination to
> the Supreme Court."
>
> Barack Obama - 2005.

Mike, did you read this quote?

Carbon

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May 18, 2010, 7:35:41 PM5/18/10
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On Tue, 18 May 2010 16:33:46 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> "John B." <john...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:d2201625-31f8-4021-b02b-
> e1918e...@y12g2000vbr.googlegroups.com... On May 18, 11:09 am,
> Kagan could be the next Miers.

You are wrong. Hell, the Republicans jumped on Miers almost as hard as
the Democrats did. You don't remember any of that? It wasn't that long
ago...

John B.

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May 18, 2010, 9:17:48 PM5/18/10
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On May 18, 5:33 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...@aol.com> wrote:
> "John B." <johnb...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Miers had nowhere near the qualifications that Kagan has.

Hor...@net.net

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May 18, 2010, 11:02:30 PM5/18/10
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On Tue, 18 May 2010 18:17:48 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
<john...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:

>> Kagan could be the next Miers.
>
>Miers had nowhere near the qualifications that Kagan has.


Really? What are those qualifications?

Vote for Palin-Brown in 2012. Repeal the nightmares.


Hor...@Horvath.net

John B.

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May 19, 2010, 9:04:32 AM5/19/10
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On May 18, 11:02 pm, Horv...@net.net wrote:
> On Tue, 18 May 2010 18:17:48 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
> <johnb...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:

>
> >> Kagan could be the next Miers.
>
> >Miers had nowhere near the qualifications that Kagan has.
>
> Really?  What are those qualifications?
>
They've been in all the papers. Have you not been paying attention?

MNMikeW

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May 19, 2010, 11:34:51 AM5/19/10
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"Carbon" <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4bf322c6$0$22471$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...

No Carbs, I just blindly cut and pasted something and this is what appeared.


MNMikeW

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May 19, 2010, 11:35:33 AM5/19/10
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"Carbon" <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4bf3244d$0$5003$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...

I do. And there are some Dems already jumping on Kagan as well.


Hor...@net.net

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May 19, 2010, 3:49:42 PM5/19/10
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On Wed, 19 May 2010 06:04:32 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
<john...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:

>On May 18, 11:02�pm, Horv...@net.net wrote:

Humor me. Pretend I don't read the newspapers. What are those

Carbon

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May 19, 2010, 6:01:17 PM5/19/10
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On Wed, 19 May 2010 10:35:33 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> "Carbon" <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message

Perhaps some, though I haven't heard much. It's still nothing like the
Miers firestorm. It's barely in the news.

Carbon

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May 19, 2010, 6:05:51 PM5/19/10
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On Wed, 19 May 2010 10:34:51 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> "Carbon" <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4bf322c6$0$22471$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>> On Tue, 18 May 2010 10:09:21 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
>>> "Carbon" <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4bede734$0$4831$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>
>>>> Probably almost as little as you. On the other hand, I'm not the
>>>> one ranting that she's unqualified.
>>>
>>> "Harriet Miers has had a distinguished career as a lawyer, but since
>>> her experience does not include serving as a judge, we have yet to
>>> know her views on many of the critical constitutional issues facing
>>> our country today. In the coming weeks, we'll need as much
>>> information and forthright testimony from Ms. Miers as possible so
>>> that the U.S. Senate can make an educated and informed decision on
>>> her nomination to the Supreme Court."
>>>
>>> Barack Obama - 2005.
>>
>> Mike, did you read this quote?
>
> No Carbs, I just blindly cut and pasted something and this is what
> appeared.

That's what I thought :-).

Obama is saying that he doesn't know anything about Miers and that they
can't make a decision about her until until they have more information.
First, he absolutely did not say Miers was unqualified. Second, it's a
completely reasonable position.

BAR

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May 19, 2010, 6:13:24 PM5/19/10
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In article <30c639e4-f2ad-4852-8d0f-fce8befec670@
40g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com says...

>
> On May 18, 11:02ᅵpm, Horv...@net.net wrote:
> > On Tue, 18 May 2010 18:17:48 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
> > <johnb...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:
> >
> > >> Kagan could be the next Miers.
> >
> > >Miers had nowhere near the qualifications that Kagan has.
> >
> > Really? ᅵWhat are those qualifications?

> >
> They've been in all the papers. Have you not been paying attention?

List them.


William Clark

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May 19, 2010, 8:35:11 PM5/19/10
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In article <d4g8v5do47trifamv...@4ax.com>,
Hor...@net.net wrote:

> On Wed, 19 May 2010 06:04:32 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
> <john...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:
>
> >On May 18, 11:02�pm, Horv...@net.net wrote:
> >> On Tue, 18 May 2010 18:17:48 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
> >> <johnb...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:
> >>
> >> >> Kagan could be the next Miers.
> >>
> >> >Miers had nowhere near the qualifications that Kagan has.
> >>
> >> Really? �What are those qualifications?
> >>
> >They've been in all the papers. Have you not been paying attention?
>
> Humor me. Pretend I don't read the newspapers. What are those
> qualifications?


"Pretend" you don't read the newspapers? You are joking, surely.

John B.

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May 19, 2010, 10:38:12 PM5/19/10
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On May 19, 6:13 pm, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> In article <30c639e4-f2ad-4852-8d0f-fce8befec670@
> 40g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...

>
>
>
> > On May 18, 11:02 pm, Horv...@net.net wrote:
> > > On Tue, 18 May 2010 18:17:48 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
> > > <johnb...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:
>
> > > >> Kagan could be the next Miers.
>
> > > >Miers had nowhere near the qualifications that Kagan has.
>
> > > Really?  What are those qualifications?

>
> > They've been in all the papers. Have you not been paying attention?
>
> List them.

Kagan was born and raised in New York City. After attending Princeton,
Oxford, and Harvard Law School, she completed federal Court of Appeals
and Supreme Court clerkships. She began her career as a professor at
the University of Chicago Law School, leaving to serve as an Associate
White House Counsel and later policy adviser under President Clinton.
After a nomination to the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C.
Circuit which expired without action, she became a professor at
Harvard Law School and was later named its Dean.

She was appointed Solicitor General by President Barack Obama on
January 26, 2009.

Hor...@net.net

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May 20, 2010, 6:59:06 AM5/20/10
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On Wed, 19 May 2010 19:38:12 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
<john...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:

>


>Kagan was born and raised in New York City. After attending Princeton,
>Oxford, and Harvard Law School, she completed federal Court of Appeals
>and Supreme Court clerkships. She began her career as a professor at
>the University of Chicago Law School, leaving to serve as an Associate
>White House Counsel and later policy adviser under President Clinton.
>After a nomination to the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C.
>Circuit which expired without action, she became a professor at
>Harvard Law School and was later named its Dean.
>
>She was appointed Solicitor General by President Barack Obama on
>January 26, 2009.

I don't see anything that qualifies her to be a judge. I see school
learning, and teaching. No real experience.

Howard Brazee

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May 20, 2010, 7:47:29 AM5/20/10
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On Thu, 20 May 2010 05:59:06 -0500, Hor...@net.net wrote:

>
>I don't see anything that qualifies her to be a judge. I see school
>learning, and teaching. No real experience.

What are the qualifications that are needed for someone to be a judge?

William Clark

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May 20, 2010, 7:52:45 AM5/20/10
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In article
<c7156656-2f4b-4458...@f14g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
"John B." <john...@gmail.com> wrote:

But these are nothing compared to Bert's distinguished track record.

William Clark

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May 20, 2010, 7:53:26 AM5/20/10
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In article <pa5av55mjoepgd8gb...@4ax.com>,
Hor...@net.net wrote:

> On Wed, 19 May 2010 19:38:12 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
> <john...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:
>
> >
> >Kagan was born and raised in New York City. After attending Princeton,
> >Oxford, and Harvard Law School, she completed federal Court of Appeals
> >and Supreme Court clerkships. She began her career as a professor at
> >the University of Chicago Law School, leaving to serve as an Associate
> >White House Counsel and later policy adviser under President Clinton.
> >After a nomination to the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C.
> >Circuit which expired without action, she became a professor at
> >Harvard Law School and was later named its Dean.
> >
> >She was appointed Solicitor General by President Barack Obama on
> >January 26, 2009.
>
> I don't see anything that qualifies her to be a judge. I see school
> learning, and teaching. No real experience.
>

You don't see anything, period. Your too damn stupid.

BAR

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May 20, 2010, 8:07:27 AM5/20/10
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In article <c7156656-2f4b-4458-82e8-32f5b705ce68
@f14g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com says...

>
> On May 19, 6:13ᅵpm, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> > In article <30c639e4-f2ad-4852-8d0f-fce8befec670@
> > 40g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...
> >
> >
> >
> > > On May 18, 11:02ᅵpm, Horv...@net.net wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 18 May 2010 18:17:48 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
> > > > <johnb...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:
> >
> > > > >> Kagan could be the next Miers.
> >
> > > > >Miers had nowhere near the qualifications that Kagan has.
> >
> > > > Really? ᅵWhat are those qualifications?

> >
> > > They've been in all the papers. Have you not been paying attention?
> >
> > List them.
>
> Kagan was born and raised in New York City. After attending Princeton,
> Oxford, and Harvard Law School, she completed federal Court of Appeals
> and Supreme Court clerkships. She began her career as a professor at
> the University of Chicago Law School, leaving to serve as an Associate
> White House Counsel and later policy adviser under President Clinton.
> After a nomination to the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C.
> Circuit which expired without action, she became a professor at
> Harvard Law School and was later named its Dean.
>
> She was appointed Solicitor General by President Barack Obama on
> January 26, 2009.

Doesn't appear to have much experience in trial law. In fact her
qualificaitons as you list them are missing experience as a sitting
judge. Even a magistrate has more experience to sit in judgement of
others.


BAR

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May 20, 2010, 8:10:37 AM5/20/10
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In article <clark-99B59C....@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
state.edu>, cl...@nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says...
> > On May 19, 6:13ᅵpm, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> > > In article <30c639e4-f2ad-4852-8d0f-fce8befec670@
> > > 40g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>, johnb...@gmail.com says...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On May 18, 11:02ᅵpm, Horv...@net.net wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 18 May 2010 18:17:48 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
> > > > > <johnb...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:
> > >
> > > > > >> Kagan could be the next Miers.
> > >
> > > > > >Miers had nowhere near the qualifications that Kagan has.
> > >
> > > > > Really? ᅵWhat are those qualifications?

> > >
> > > > They've been in all the papers. Have you not been paying attention?
> > >
> > > List them.
> >
> > Kagan was born and raised in New York City. After attending Princeton,
> > Oxford, and Harvard Law School, she completed federal Court of Appeals
> > and Supreme Court clerkships. She began her career as a professor at
> > the University of Chicago Law School, leaving to serve as an Associate
> > White House Counsel and later policy adviser under President Clinton.
> > After a nomination to the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C.
> > Circuit which expired without action, she became a professor at
> > Harvard Law School and was later named its Dean.
> >
> > She was appointed Solicitor General by President Barack Obama on
> > January 26, 2009.
>
> But these are nothing compared to Bert's distinguished track record.

I have accomplished many things in my life. Too many to list here.


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