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JCYates

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May 13, 2008, 1:12:29 PM5/13/08
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I don't know if this subject has been broached on this site before, so
please forgive me if it has.
My club, an average sized members club, that does not host special golf
weeks. or have a special "Must play this course" tag, attracting huge
numbers of visitors, has recently stated it wishes to change over from a
"Ball in the shute Roll up" system to a reserved tee time system.

Quite a number of members are very concerned about this, believing it would
disrupt those members who like to play in their own small groups with
friends. I understand that BRS Golf who operate system for handling this
kind of work are in touch with the club, but from looking them up their
systems appear to appeal to the larger clubs who depend on lots of visitors
rather than the club membership.

I wonder if any other readers have had opportunity to evaluate the system of
reserved tee times from their own experiences, people I have spoken to from
other local clubs that have tried this have spoken very badly of it,
speaking of course from a members perspective


Graham Waiffers

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May 13, 2008, 3:18:35 PM5/13/08
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Best of both worlds would be available by allocating every 3rd or 4th
tee time to ball-in-chute players, while letting other times be booked
by those who prefer some certainty.

--
Graham Waiffers

The poster formerly known as Roger Thaat, Watson deMeneux or Jack Skwaht.

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Dave Lee

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May 13, 2008, 3:37:10 PM5/13/08
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"JCYates" <jo...@galmpton.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
news:FrydnVc5aZ1hVrTV...@eclipse.net.uk...

IMHO, this is less about the existence of the system and all about two
things

1) How the club wants to allocate tee times
2) A change in required member play planning from a "spur of the moment" to
advance planning

Members will notice a huge change as they will now have to (or be allowed
to - depends on your perspective) make advance decisions about when they
play. The up side is that if you have a 10:30 tee time, you have a 10:30 tee
time where (in the old system) you wouldn't know when you would tee off. The
down side is, obviously, that you can't subsitute patience for planning.
Right now if you decide at 8:00 a.m. you want to play a round, you can do it
if you are willing to stand around long enough. Members will lose that and
some will miss it.

If the club wants to allocate more tee times to guests this is the way to do
it. If they want to allocate more tee times to members, this would also be
the way to do it.

I assume that I play at one of the biggest "mixed golf (members and resort
guests) places on the planet. Member tee time availability has little to do
with the existence of a reserved tee time system, but everything to do with
the way the club allocates tee times using this system.

dave

ps. In many ways we have "the best of both worlds". Unused resort tee times
are "released to members" at 4:00 pm (for play the next day). If you want an
"almost spur of the moment" tee time you can call at 4:00 pm on Tuesday (for
example) and almost certainly be able to get some kind of reasonable tee
time Wednesday. On a smaller scale something like that might be helpful to
your club.

Silvio Bierman

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May 13, 2008, 4:41:51 PM5/13/08
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We have two 18-holes courses. Every day one of them is members only
first come first serve (you put a ball in a FIFO spiral). The other one
is used for paying non-members but members are allowed to book a (free)
tee-time when calling on the same day. Also if there are gaps between
the reserved tee times waiting members can use the other course.

Beautiful system although I rarely book upfront. Just drive to the
course and 90% of time find the first hole empty. Only on Saturday and
Sunday mornings there is a small crowd and waiting times can grow up to
20-30 minutes.

Silvio

The_Professor

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May 13, 2008, 6:18:04 PM5/13/08
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If you play a lot, you will hate it. Tee times are really hurting the
game because it is rarely that anyone can come up with a group to
justify a tee time, and it takes away the spontaneity of having some
free time here and there to golf. It works best for those poor souls
that plan every moment of their lives. For me, I play 2 local munis
and a country club out of town because you just walk on and
play...unless they are really busy...in which case I don't want to
play anyways!

It's great for the club though...IFF people show up for the tee
times...I guess you could beat on members who don't show, but
"guests", no chance to beat them up over it! I would not pay
membership dues at a club that had tee times. Too many times you
cannot get onto the course,,,and that's what I am paying for!

Fairway

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May 13, 2008, 8:11:27 PM5/13/08
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On May 13, 3:18 pm, The_Professor <d...@att.net> wrote:
> >
> If you play a lot, you will hate it. Tee times are really hurting the
> game because it is rarely that anyone can come up with a group to
> justify a tee time, and it takes away the spontaneity of having some
> free time here and there to golf. It works best for those poor souls
> that plan every moment of their lives.
For us Europeans planning comes naturally and we wouldn´t dream of
anything else than tee times. In practice it´s very easy. You create a
group (or better: several groups) of golfing buddies and usually you
need only to plan for tomorrow, you make some phone calls and there
you are. Most often it´s sufficient to plan a few hours ahead. F

Bobby Knight

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May 13, 2008, 8:23:36 PM5/13/08
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That makes sense. However, a lot of guys find themselves in the
situation of not having a static schedule, and/or not knowing enough
other golfers, to make those plans.

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The_Professor

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May 14, 2008, 12:28:42 PM5/14/08
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On May 13, 7:23 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 13 May 2008 17:11:27 -0700 (PDT), Fairway
>
> <armins...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On May 13, 3:18 pm, The_Professor <d...@att.net> wrote:
>
> >> If you play a lot, you will hate it. Tee times are really hurting the
> >> game because it is rarely that anyone can come up with a group to
> >> justify a tee time, and it takes away the spontaneity of having some
> >> free time here and there to golf. It works best for those poor souls
> >> that plan every moment of their lives.
> >For us Europeans planning comes naturally and we wouldn´t dream of
> >anything else than tee times. In practice it´s very easy. You create a
> >group (or better: several groups) of golfing buddies and usually you
> >need only to plan for tomorrow, you make some phone calls and there
> >you are. Most often it´s sufficient to plan a few hours ahead. F
>
> That makes sense.  However, a lot of guys find themselves in the
> situation of not having a static schedule, and/or not  knowing enough
> other golfers, to make those plans.  
>

The big thing is taking the time to get together a group every time
you want to golf...and then have to pay through the nose for the
priviledge! I could make snarky remarks about examples of things
Europeans have planned, but I've grown beyond that! ;^)

Fairway

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May 14, 2008, 2:38:37 PM5/14/08
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On May 14, 9:28 am, The_Professor <d...@att.net> wrote:
> I could make snarky remarks about examples of things
> Europeans have planned, but I've grown beyond that!  ;^)-
You can´t afford snarky comments, that´s why!
F

The_Professor

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May 15, 2008, 11:51:12 AM5/15/08
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What can't I afford? I most certainly don't care what the local
paranoid schizophrenic twits think about what I say!

;^)

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