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la...@pivotforpower.com
May 18, 2012, 7:06:01 PM5/18/12
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The Arizona Secretary of State said today that he requires PROOF of Obama's birth in Hawaii before Arizona will release electoral votes for Obama, regardless of election outcome.
So Obviously Ken Bennett believes Arizona Sheriff Arpaijo's official conclusion that Obama's Birth Certificate is an outrageous and almost childish fake.
All it takes is one state to start the avalanche. Other states will follow suite---
Watch the fun!
So Obviously Ken Bennett believes Arizona Sheriff Arpaijo's official conclusion that Obama's Birth Certificate is an outrageous and almost childish fake.
All it takes is one state to start the avalanche. Other states will follow suite---
Watch the fun!
Lloyd
May 18, 2012, 8:45:59 PM5/18/12
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In article <a52c4e82-217b-43c1...@googlegroups.com>,
It is fun to watch politicians that should be fairly smart make such
buffoons of themselves.
buffoons of themselves.
Howard Brazee
May 18, 2012, 9:06:40 PM5/18/12
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On Fri, 18 May 2012 19:45:59 -0500, Lloyd <lloydp...@me.com> wrote:
>> So Obviously Ken Bennett believes Arizona Sheriff Arpaijo's official
>> conclusion that Obama's Birth Certificate is an outrageous and almost
>> childish fake.
>>
>> All it takes is one state to start the avalanche. Other states will follow
>> suite---
>>
>> Watch the fun!
>
>It is fun to watch politicians that should be fairly smart make such
>buffoons of themselves.
Sometimes they make buffoons out of themselves because they are
>> So Obviously Ken Bennett believes Arizona Sheriff Arpaijo's official
>> conclusion that Obama's Birth Certificate is an outrageous and almost
>> childish fake.
>>
>> All it takes is one state to start the avalanche. Other states will follow
>> suite---
>>
>> Watch the fun!
>
>It is fun to watch politicians that should be fairly smart make such
>buffoons of themselves.
buffoons. Other times they do so to get the buffoon vote.
Even if he is a birther, he knows he can't win that fight - but he may
get votes, publicity, or even money down the road.
--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
- James Madison
bkn...@conramp.net
May 18, 2012, 9:40:03 PM5/18/12
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On Fri, 18 May 2012 19:06:40 -0600, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net>
wrote:
>On Fri, 18 May 2012 19:45:59 -0500, Lloyd <lloydp...@me.com> wrote:
>
>>> So Obviously Ken Bennett believes Arizona Sheriff Arpaijo's official
>>> conclusion that Obama's Birth Certificate is an outrageous and almost
>>> childish fake.
>>>
>>> All it takes is one state to start the avalanche. Other states will follow
>>> suite---
>>>
>>> Watch the fun!
>>
>>It is fun to watch politicians that should be fairly smart make such
>>buffoons of themselves.
>
>Sometimes they make buffoons out of themselves because they are
>buffoons. Other times they do so to get the buffoon vote.
>
>Even if he is a birther, he knows he can't win that fight - but he may
>get votes, publicity, or even money down the road.
You need to read that link. He's not a birther and is pretty sure
that this will go nowhere.
wrote:
>On Fri, 18 May 2012 19:45:59 -0500, Lloyd <lloydp...@me.com> wrote:
>
>>> So Obviously Ken Bennett believes Arizona Sheriff Arpaijo's official
>>> conclusion that Obama's Birth Certificate is an outrageous and almost
>>> childish fake.
>>>
>>> All it takes is one state to start the avalanche. Other states will follow
>>> suite---
>>>
>>> Watch the fun!
>>
>>It is fun to watch politicians that should be fairly smart make such
>>buffoons of themselves.
>
>Sometimes they make buffoons out of themselves because they are
>buffoons. Other times they do so to get the buffoon vote.
>
>Even if he is a birther, he knows he can't win that fight - but he may
>get votes, publicity, or even money down the road.
that this will go nowhere.
la...@pivotforpower.com
May 18, 2012, 9:55:42 PM5/18/12
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What else can a state official do? Just let this usurper skate through?
Larry
Lloyd
May 18, 2012, 11:22:15 PM5/18/12
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In article <28cdd903-91e8-4557...@googlegroups.com>,
Well, I guess politicians aren't the only ones to make buffoons of
themselves, huh Larry? :)
Hawaii has provided the proper proof, morons can't see it though. They
are blinded by their hatred.
themselves, huh Larry? :)
Hawaii has provided the proper proof, morons can't see it though. They
are blinded by their hatred.
Alan Baker
May 19, 2012, 1:04:41 AM5/19/12
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In article <a52c4e82-217b-43c1...@googlegroups.com>,
"la...@pivotforpower.com" <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
"la...@pivotforpower.com" <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
BAR
May 19, 2012, 9:50:32 AM5/19/12
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In article <lloydparsons-8A5E...@news.eternal-
september.org>, lloydp...@me.com says...
Hawaii has never provided proof. You had some government functionary who
said that the birth certificate exists. The Obama campaign has published
a birth certificate that some believe is a fake.
september.org>, lloydp...@me.com says...
said that the birth certificate exists. The Obama campaign has published
a birth certificate that some believe is a fake.
Howard Brazee
May 19, 2012, 9:57:47 AM5/19/12
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On Fri, 18 May 2012 18:55:42 -0700 (PDT), "la...@pivotforpower.com"
<la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
>> You need to read that link. He's not a birther and is pretty sure
>> that this will go nowhere.
>
>It has gone "somewhere" unless Hawaii can produce proof that Obama was born there. Arizona is demanding proof because abundant new evidence has come out that Obama himself repeatedly said he was born in Kenya-- a dozen times! He allowed someone to publish a brochure saying that when he went to Harvard. Duh!!! All of Kenya and Africa proudly trumpets that one of their own is the US President. They know the truth.
>
>What else can a state official do? Just let this usurper skate through?
And Ireland claimed Kennedy. But how does "all of Kenya" know the
<la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
>> You need to read that link. He's not a birther and is pretty sure
>> that this will go nowhere.
>
>It has gone "somewhere" unless Hawaii can produce proof that Obama was born there. Arizona is demanding proof because abundant new evidence has come out that Obama himself repeatedly said he was born in Kenya-- a dozen times! He allowed someone to publish a brochure saying that when he went to Harvard. Duh!!! All of Kenya and Africa proudly trumpets that one of their own is the US President. They know the truth.
>
>What else can a state official do? Just let this usurper skate through?
truth? The same way that you know the truth? I'm sure you were
there recording his birth.
bkn...@conramp.net
May 19, 2012, 10:22:55 AM5/19/12
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the proof already given, he just wants it delivered to him
specifically.
bkn...@conramp.net
May 19, 2012, 10:23:57 AM5/19/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 07:57:47 -0600, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net>
wrote:
>On Fri, 18 May 2012 18:55:42 -0700 (PDT), "la...@pivotforpower.com"
><la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
>
>>> You need to read that link. He's not a birther and is pretty sure
>>> that this will go nowhere.
>>
>>It has gone "somewhere" unless Hawaii can produce proof that Obama was born there. Arizona is demanding proof because abundant new evidence has come out that Obama himself repeatedly said he was born in Kenya-- a dozen times! He allowed someone to publish a brochure saying that when he went to Harvard. Duh!!! All of Kenya and Africa proudly trumpets that one of their own is the US President. They know the truth.
>>
>>What else can a state official do? Just let this usurper skate through?
>
>And Ireland claimed Kennedy. But how does "all of Kenya" know the
>truth? The same way that you know the truth? I'm sure you were
>there recording his birth.
LLLLLarrrrry lives in his own dream world where he can make shit up
and pass it off as fact.
wrote:
>On Fri, 18 May 2012 18:55:42 -0700 (PDT), "la...@pivotforpower.com"
><la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
>
>>> You need to read that link. He's not a birther and is pretty sure
>>> that this will go nowhere.
>>
>>It has gone "somewhere" unless Hawaii can produce proof that Obama was born there. Arizona is demanding proof because abundant new evidence has come out that Obama himself repeatedly said he was born in Kenya-- a dozen times! He allowed someone to publish a brochure saying that when he went to Harvard. Duh!!! All of Kenya and Africa proudly trumpets that one of their own is the US President. They know the truth.
>>
>>What else can a state official do? Just let this usurper skate through?
>
>And Ireland claimed Kennedy. But how does "all of Kenya" know the
>truth? The same way that you know the truth? I'm sure you were
>there recording his birth.
and pass it off as fact.
Lloyd
May 19, 2012, 1:25:49 PM5/19/12
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In article <v6bfr79acpua16jti...@4ax.com>,
My now retired postman is like Larry. He's always sending me right wing
wacko shit. About 80% of it is discounted at Snopes which he 'no longer
trusts'!! I wonder why he doesn't like Snopes?
wacko shit. About 80% of it is discounted at Snopes which he 'no longer
trusts'!! I wonder why he doesn't like Snopes?
Lloyd
May 19, 2012, 1:27:37 PM5/19/12
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In article <MPG.2a216f3...@news.giganews.com>,
Nope, you are incorrect. A proper birth certificate was provided.
That some morons don't believe it is a real one is one of the
indications of true stupidity.
If you don't like Obama, and many don't. Make it for reasons that make
sense. None of these wacko theories and accusations have credibility
and take away from proper discourse.
That some morons don't believe it is a real one is one of the
indications of true stupidity.
If you don't like Obama, and many don't. Make it for reasons that make
sense. None of these wacko theories and accusations have credibility
and take away from proper discourse.
la...@pivotforpower.com
May 19, 2012, 1:52:53 PM5/19/12
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And of course Hawaii will not be able to do that. Obama was born in Kenya and brought to Hawaii as an infant a few days later. No doctor would sign a birth certificate because no doctor there saw his birth. There is a document purporting to be his Kenya birth certificate, however. It is signed by physician. His aunt gave a sworn affadavit that she witnessed his birth in a hospital in Mumbassa.
New research has brought up dozens of instances in which Obama himself (before he was interested in becoming President) proudly announced that he was born in Kenya. Obama allowed that to be printed in the brochure about his Harvard Law Review accomplishment (which was probably just Affirmative Action in action).
http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/arizona-official-to-hawaii-show-birth-verification/
Read it and weep.
Larry
This site has all the evidence going back 6 years.
Larry
Lloyd
May 19, 2012, 1:58:26 PM5/19/12
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In article <c335b0a8-1447-4213...@googlegroups.com>,
Yep, World NUT Daily is the really good collector of the trivia and
nonsense you right wing nutters come up with.
As a credible news source however, it lacks any validity.
nonsense you right wing nutters come up with.
As a credible news source however, it lacks any validity.
Don Kirkman
May 19, 2012, 3:12:08 PM5/19/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 07:57:47 -0600, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net>
wrote:
>On Fri, 18 May 2012 18:55:42 -0700 (PDT), "la...@pivotforpower.com"
><la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
>
>>> You need to read that link. He's not a birther and is pretty sure
>>> that this will go nowhere.
>>
>>It has gone "somewhere" unless Hawaii can produce proof that Obama was born there. Arizona is demanding proof because abundant new evidence has come out that Obama himself repeatedly said he was born in Kenya-- a dozen times! He allowed someone to publish a brochure saying that when he went to Harvard. Duh!!! All of Kenya and Africa proudly trumpets that one of their own is the US President. They know the truth.
>>
>>What else can a state official do? Just let this usurper skate through?
>
>And Ireland claimed Kennedy. But how does "all of Kenya" know the
>truth? The same way that you know the truth? I'm sure you were
>there recording his birth.
Besides, even if he had been born in Kenya he would still have
American citizenship because his mother was undeniably a US citizen.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
wrote:
>On Fri, 18 May 2012 18:55:42 -0700 (PDT), "la...@pivotforpower.com"
><la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
>
>>> You need to read that link. He's not a birther and is pretty sure
>>> that this will go nowhere.
>>
>>It has gone "somewhere" unless Hawaii can produce proof that Obama was born there. Arizona is demanding proof because abundant new evidence has come out that Obama himself repeatedly said he was born in Kenya-- a dozen times! He allowed someone to publish a brochure saying that when he went to Harvard. Duh!!! All of Kenya and Africa proudly trumpets that one of their own is the US President. They know the truth.
>>
>>What else can a state official do? Just let this usurper skate through?
>
>And Ireland claimed Kennedy. But how does "all of Kenya" know the
>truth? The same way that you know the truth? I'm sure you were
>there recording his birth.
American citizenship because his mother was undeniably a US citizen.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
bkn...@conramp.net
May 19, 2012, 3:54:05 PM5/19/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 10:52:53 -0700 (PDT), "la...@pivotforpower.com"
<la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
>At least 3 federal courts ordered "discovery" and lawyers provided exhaustive evidence that the birth certificate was a blatant forgery, almost childish. Then Arizona Sheriff Arpaijo commissioned a "posse" to do another exhaustive study and came up with that same conclusion. Hence the NEW refusal by the Secretary of State to allow Obama on the November election ballot UNLESS Hawaii provides new and convincing evidence.
>
>And of course Hawaii will not be able to do that. Obama was born in Kenya and brought to Hawaii as an infant a few days later. No doctor would sign a birth certificate because no doctor there saw his birth. There is a document purporting to be his Kenya birth certificate, however. It is signed by physician. His aunt gave a sworn affadavit that she witnessed his birth in a hospital in Mumbassa.
>
>New research has brought up dozens of instances in which Obama himself (before he was interested in becoming President) proudly announced that he was born in Kenya. Obama allowed that to be printed in the brochure about his Harvard Law Review accomplishment (which was probably just Affirmative Action in action).
>
>http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/arizona-official-to-hawaii-show-birth-verification/
>
>Read it and weep.
>
>Larry
>
>This site has all the evidence going back 6 years.
>
>Larry
You've become a joke. A reasonably sane person would know that the
<la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
>At least 3 federal courts ordered "discovery" and lawyers provided exhaustive evidence that the birth certificate was a blatant forgery, almost childish. Then Arizona Sheriff Arpaijo commissioned a "posse" to do another exhaustive study and came up with that same conclusion. Hence the NEW refusal by the Secretary of State to allow Obama on the November election ballot UNLESS Hawaii provides new and convincing evidence.
>
>And of course Hawaii will not be able to do that. Obama was born in Kenya and brought to Hawaii as an infant a few days later. No doctor would sign a birth certificate because no doctor there saw his birth. There is a document purporting to be his Kenya birth certificate, however. It is signed by physician. His aunt gave a sworn affadavit that she witnessed his birth in a hospital in Mumbassa.
>
>New research has brought up dozens of instances in which Obama himself (before he was interested in becoming President) proudly announced that he was born in Kenya. Obama allowed that to be printed in the brochure about his Harvard Law Review accomplishment (which was probably just Affirmative Action in action).
>
>http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/arizona-official-to-hawaii-show-birth-verification/
>
>Read it and weep.
>
>Larry
>
>This site has all the evidence going back 6 years.
>
>Larry
GOP with all of their resources would never have allowed this crap you
suggest to happen.
The fact that you look for and find other wackos on the Internet to
agree with you shows even more simple mindedness on your part.
Lloyd is right. Not wanting Obama to be reelected is anyone's right,
but this is silliness and a grown man should recognize that.
Howard Brazee
May 19, 2012, 4:34:20 PM5/19/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 14:54:05 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote:
>You've become a joke. A reasonably sane person would know that the
>GOP with all of their resources would never have allowed this crap you
>suggest to happen.
>
>The fact that you look for and find other wackos on the Internet to
>agree with you shows even more simple mindedness on your part.
>
>Lloyd is right. Not wanting Obama to be reelected is anyone's right,
>but this is silliness and a grown man should recognize that.
Obviously, just looking at him means he could not possibly be Larry's
>You've become a joke. A reasonably sane person would know that the
>GOP with all of their resources would never have allowed this crap you
>suggest to happen.
>
>The fact that you look for and find other wackos on the Internet to
>agree with you shows even more simple mindedness on your part.
>
>Lloyd is right. Not wanting Obama to be reelected is anyone's right,
>but this is silliness and a grown man should recognize that.
legitimate president. Therefore he must be illegitimate some how
that matters.
la...@pivotforpower.com
May 19, 2012, 5:09:54 PM5/19/12
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But that was then. NOW enough NEW evidence has been assembled to convince any federal court that he was probably NOT born in America. And that is the reason the Secretary of State of Arizona has made the public pronouncement that his birth certificate is insufficient and that new proof will be required from Hawaii. That is not trivia. If Arizona will not allow Obama on its November ballot, other states will follow suite. Stand by.
Larry
Lloyd
May 19, 2012, 5:23:14 PM5/19/12
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In article <5686cbfc-9e56-47e4...@googlegroups.com>,
Complete and utter bullshit Larry!
If you think for a moment that the RNC or all those radio yakkers
wouldn't have been out for blood if the issue had any traction at all,
you are a complete fool.
If you think for a moment that the RNC or all those radio yakkers
wouldn't have been out for blood if the issue had any traction at all,
you are a complete fool.
bkn...@conramp.net
May 19, 2012, 6:13:30 PM5/19/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 14:09:54 -0700 (PDT), "la...@pivotforpower.com"
<la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
>On Saturday, May 19, 2012 12:54:05 PM UTC-7, bkn...@conramp.net wrote:
>> You've become a joke. A reasonably sane person would know that the
>> GOP with all of their resources would never have allowed this crap you
>> suggest to happen.
>>
>> The fact that you look for and find other wackos on the Internet to
>> agree with you shows even more simple mindedness on your part.
>>
>> Lloyd is right. Not wanting Obama to be reelected is anyone's right,
>> but this is silliness and a grown man should recognize that.
>
>Normally you would be right. Back in 2008, when the first black man could be elected president, the issue of his eligibility became radioactive. The RNC and McCain specifically ordered every campaign to ignore that issue. EVERYONE including Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and many other talk show hosts were afraid of it. Nobody wanted to be ridiculed if the evidence turned out to be inconclusive.
Bullshit. More of your tidy assumptions. None of this happened.
<la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
>On Saturday, May 19, 2012 12:54:05 PM UTC-7, bkn...@conramp.net wrote:
>> You've become a joke. A reasonably sane person would know that the
>> GOP with all of their resources would never have allowed this crap you
>> suggest to happen.
>>
>> The fact that you look for and find other wackos on the Internet to
>> agree with you shows even more simple mindedness on your part.
>>
>> Lloyd is right. Not wanting Obama to be reelected is anyone's right,
>> but this is silliness and a grown man should recognize that.
>
>Normally you would be right. Back in 2008, when the first black man could be elected president, the issue of his eligibility became radioactive. The RNC and McCain specifically ordered every campaign to ignore that issue. EVERYONE including Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and many other talk show hosts were afraid of it. Nobody wanted to be ridiculed if the evidence turned out to be inconclusive.
Period.
>
>But that was then. NOW enough NEW evidence has been assembled to convince any federal court that he was probably NOT born in America. And that is the reason the Secretary of State of Arizona has made the public pronouncement that his birth certificate is insufficient and that new proof will be required from Hawaii. That is not trivia. If Arizona will not allow Obama on its November ballot, other states will follow suite. Stand by.
LOL.. As I said, you're not to be taken seriously. I've read exactly
>But that was then. NOW enough NEW evidence has been assembled to convince any federal court that he was probably NOT born in America. And that is the reason the Secretary of State of Arizona has made the public pronouncement that his birth certificate is insufficient and that new proof will be required from Hawaii. That is not trivia. If Arizona will not allow Obama on its November ballot, other states will follow suite. Stand by.
what the Secretary of State of Arizona said. He will accept the same
proof that was given by the White House earlier....he just wants it to
be sent to him personally.
Obama may not be re-elected but he will be on every state's ballot.
I'd offer a large bet on this but even if you accepted it I couldn't
expect you to pay when you lost. You're that reprehensible.
I know that you can read, but your simple mindedness won't allow you
to accept anything unless it meets your extremist views. You're
mentally unstable.
kenpitts
May 19, 2012, 6:18:03 PM5/19/12
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He is the one who is crazy.
I tend to think that Larry would pay if he agreed to a bet in here.
Ken
Lloyd
May 19, 2012, 6:22:58 PM5/19/12
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In article
<bbe5a401-c473-40d6...@t23g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
Compared to Larry, Baker is an absolute genius! Not saying much, but
still! :)
I don't think you'd have to worry about Larry making a bet and not
paying off, he wouldn't take any bet to begin with. He weaseled in the
past over one as I recall.
<bbe5a401-c473-40d6...@t23g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
still! :)
I don't think you'd have to worry about Larry making a bet and not
paying off, he wouldn't take any bet to begin with. He weaseled in the
past over one as I recall.
bkn...@conramp.net
May 19, 2012, 6:39:50 PM5/19/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 15:18:03 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts
<ken....@gmail.com> wrote:
>If you come down this hard on Larry, why do you go so easy on Baker?
>He is the one who is crazy.
First of all I haven't seen any of Baker's posts in a long while. I
<ken....@gmail.com> wrote:
>If you come down this hard on Larry, why do you go so easy on Baker?
>He is the one who is crazy.
never thought of him as crazy but didn't care to be involved with his
style of arguing. I never saw anything from him to show prejudice or
extremism either. That alone separates him from L.
>
>I tend to think that Larry would pay if he agreed to a bet in here.
From what I have gleaned in posts from others regarding Baker and
>I tend to think that Larry would pay if he agreed to a bet in here.
LLLLarrry, he challenged him to a golf game and LLLLLLarrry backed
down.
The bottom line is that I have no regard for Larry at all. None.
I find it easy to see why you like him. You're cut from the same
cloth.
Carbon
May 19, 2012, 7:57:57 PM5/19/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 14:34:20 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote:
> On Sat, 19 May 2012 14:54:05 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote:
>
>> You've become a joke. A reasonably sane person would know that the
>> GOP with all of their resources would never have allowed this crap
>> you suggest to happen.
>>
>> The fact that you look for and find other wackos on the Internet to
>> agree with you shows even more simple mindedness on your part.
>>
>> Lloyd is right. Not wanting Obama to be reelected is anyone's right,
>> but this is silliness and a grown man should recognize that.
>
> Obviously, just looking at him means he could not possibly be Larry's
> legitimate president. Therefore he must be illegitimate some how
> that matters.
Larry is 95% troll. Racism is just the newest lure.
> On Sat, 19 May 2012 14:54:05 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote:
>
>> You've become a joke. A reasonably sane person would know that the
>> GOP with all of their resources would never have allowed this crap
>> you suggest to happen.
>>
>> The fact that you look for and find other wackos on the Internet to
>> agree with you shows even more simple mindedness on your part.
>>
>> Lloyd is right. Not wanting Obama to be reelected is anyone's right,
>> but this is silliness and a grown man should recognize that.
>
> Obviously, just looking at him means he could not possibly be Larry's
> legitimate president. Therefore he must be illegitimate some how
> that matters.
Carbon
May 19, 2012, 8:02:35 PM5/19/12
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> Compared to Larry, Baker is an absolute genius! Not saying much, but
> still! :)
>
> I don't think you'd have to worry about Larry making a bet and not
> paying off, he wouldn't take any bet to begin with. He weaseled in
> the past over one as I recall.
Larry is a troll, nothing more, whereas Alan is rational. Yes, he enjoys
> still! :)
>
> I don't think you'd have to worry about Larry making a bet and not
> paying off, he wouldn't take any bet to begin with. He weaseled in
> the past over one as I recall.
being nitpicky, and if you're the type that likes stating wild-assed
guesses as fact he will follow you around until the end of time calling
bullshit on everything you say. But I tend not to do that, and neither
do you.
Carbon
May 19, 2012, 8:04:57 PM5/19/12
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traveling alien lizard people who forged Obama's birth certificate.
Horva...@net.net
May 19, 2012, 8:10:38 PM5/19/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 14:54:05 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
crap:
>The fact that you look for and find other wackos on the Internet to
>agree with you shows even more simple mindedness on your part.
>
>Lloyd is right. Not wanting Obama to be reelected is anyone's right,
>but this is silliness and a grown man should recognize that.
Once again you ridicule anyone who disagrees with you.
Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares.
crap:
>The fact that you look for and find other wackos on the Internet to
>agree with you shows even more simple mindedness on your part.
>
>Lloyd is right. Not wanting Obama to be reelected is anyone's right,
>but this is silliness and a grown man should recognize that.
Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares.
Carbon
May 19, 2012, 8:10:44 PM5/19/12
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for a parent gets citizenship, but only the natural born can run for
President! Obviously the time traveling alien lizard people knew all
this ahead of time and planted the birth announcements in two different
Honolulu newspapers. Those Manchurian bastards! The sheer audacity of the
thing is mind-bottling!
Lloyd
May 19, 2012, 8:11:04 PM5/19/12
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In article <pan.2012.05...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>,
I did not know that! Damn that Soros and all his lizard people!! :)
bkn...@conramp.net
May 19, 2012, 8:29:29 PM5/19/12
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On 19 May 2012 23:57:57 GMT, Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>
He might be trolling, but you can bet that he means all of it.
bkn...@conramp.net
May 19, 2012, 8:31:46 PM5/19/12
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BAR
May 19, 2012, 8:43:05 PM5/19/12
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In article <u7rfr7d77bvccqb8s...@4ax.com>, donsno2
@charter.net says...
He wouldn't be eligble for the office of the president if he was born in
Kenya.
@charter.net says...
Kenya.
Carbon
May 19, 2012, 9:39:16 PM5/19/12
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la...@pivotforpower.com
May 19, 2012, 9:18:31 PM5/19/12
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Corsi went back to Kenya later and was lucky to get out alive! By that time White House had alerted them what was happening. Corsi was restricted to his hotel room and escorted to the airport and forced onto the next flight to the US.
Check it out. This is serious business, of course, and Obama and Soros and the entire team that put him in the presidency will fight and fight--Chicago style! My life is probably in danger for writing this.
Larry
bkn...@conramp.net
May 19, 2012, 9:54:17 PM5/19/12
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On 20 May 2012 01:39:16 GMT, Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>
It's a basic character trait that is apparent. Too many subtle
statements that just fall in. A troll would be much more obvious in
trying to shock IMO.
statements that just fall in. A troll would be much more obvious in
trying to shock IMO.
bkn...@conramp.net
May 19, 2012, 9:59:35 PM5/19/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 18:18:31 -0700 (PDT), "la...@pivotforpower.com"
You're not even important enough to bitch slap.
LOL You're a trip.
<la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
>On Saturday, May 19, 2012 5:43:05 PM UTC-7, BAR wrote:
>> In article <u7rfr7d77bvccqb8s...@4ax.com>, donsno2
>> @charter.net says...
>> >
>> > On Sat, 19 May 2012 07:57:47 -0600, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >On Fri, 18 May 2012 18:55:42 -0700 (PDT), "la...@pivotforpower.com"
>> > ><la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>> You need to read that link. He's not a birther and is pretty sure
>> > >>> that this will go nowhere.
>> > >>
>> > >>It has gone "somewhere" unless Hawaii can produce proof that Obama was born there. Arizona is demanding proof because abundant new evidence has come out that Obama himself repeatedly said he was born in Kenya-- a dozen times! He allowed someone to publish a brochure saying that when he went to Harvard. Duh!!! All of Kenya and Africa proudly trumpets that one of their own is the US President. They know the truth.
>> > >>
>> > >>What else can a state official do? Just let this usurper skate through?
>> > >
>> > >And Ireland claimed Kennedy. But how does "all of Kenya" know the
>> > >truth? The same way that you know the truth? I'm sure you were
>> > >there recording his birth.
>> >
>> > Besides, even if he had been born in Kenya he would still have
>> > American citizenship because his mother was undeniably a US citizen.
>>
>> He wouldn't be eligble for the office of the president if he was born in
>> Kenya.
>
>Well duh! That is point of the entire 4 year agrument over where he was actually born. Jerome Corsi (Harvard PhD) wrote a great book called "Obama Nation." He went to Kenya and actually talked to Obama's relatives there. He took the sworn deposition on tape of Obama's Great Aunt who said she was in the room when Obama was born in a Mumbassa hospital. She said his mother did not intend to have the baby there, but the airlines refused to allow her to fly because she was due any minute. After the baby was born she flew to Hawaii and went from doctor to doctor and hospital to hospital desperately begging for someone to sign a birth certificate. None would, of course.
>
>Corsi went back to Kenya later and was lucky to get out alive! By that time White House had alerted them what was happening. Corsi was restricted to his hotel room and escorted to the airport and forced onto the next flight to the US.
>
>Check it out. This is serious business, of course, and Obama and Soros and the entire team that put him in the presidency will fight and fight--Chicago style! My life is probably in danger for writing this.
>
>Larry
Thanks for the best laugh I've had this year. Your life in danger?
>On Saturday, May 19, 2012 5:43:05 PM UTC-7, BAR wrote:
>> In article <u7rfr7d77bvccqb8s...@4ax.com>, donsno2
>> @charter.net says...
>> >
>> > On Sat, 19 May 2012 07:57:47 -0600, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >On Fri, 18 May 2012 18:55:42 -0700 (PDT), "la...@pivotforpower.com"
>> > ><la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>> You need to read that link. He's not a birther and is pretty sure
>> > >>> that this will go nowhere.
>> > >>
>> > >>It has gone "somewhere" unless Hawaii can produce proof that Obama was born there. Arizona is demanding proof because abundant new evidence has come out that Obama himself repeatedly said he was born in Kenya-- a dozen times! He allowed someone to publish a brochure saying that when he went to Harvard. Duh!!! All of Kenya and Africa proudly trumpets that one of their own is the US President. They know the truth.
>> > >>
>> > >>What else can a state official do? Just let this usurper skate through?
>> > >
>> > >And Ireland claimed Kennedy. But how does "all of Kenya" know the
>> > >truth? The same way that you know the truth? I'm sure you were
>> > >there recording his birth.
>> >
>> > Besides, even if he had been born in Kenya he would still have
>> > American citizenship because his mother was undeniably a US citizen.
>>
>> He wouldn't be eligble for the office of the president if he was born in
>> Kenya.
>
>Well duh! That is point of the entire 4 year agrument over where he was actually born. Jerome Corsi (Harvard PhD) wrote a great book called "Obama Nation." He went to Kenya and actually talked to Obama's relatives there. He took the sworn deposition on tape of Obama's Great Aunt who said she was in the room when Obama was born in a Mumbassa hospital. She said his mother did not intend to have the baby there, but the airlines refused to allow her to fly because she was due any minute. After the baby was born she flew to Hawaii and went from doctor to doctor and hospital to hospital desperately begging for someone to sign a birth certificate. None would, of course.
>
>Corsi went back to Kenya later and was lucky to get out alive! By that time White House had alerted them what was happening. Corsi was restricted to his hotel room and escorted to the airport and forced onto the next flight to the US.
>
>Check it out. This is serious business, of course, and Obama and Soros and the entire team that put him in the presidency will fight and fight--Chicago style! My life is probably in danger for writing this.
>
>Larry
You're not even important enough to bitch slap.
LOL You're a trip.
Alan Baker
May 20, 2012, 2:25:18 AM5/20/12
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In article
<bbe5a401-c473-40d6...@t23g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
kenpitts <ken....@gmail.com> wrote:
<bbe5a401-c473-40d6...@t23g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
kenpitts <ken....@gmail.com> wrote:
of our narcissist: Larry?
>
> I tend to think that Larry would pay if he agreed to a bet in here.
Larry has no honour. No integrity at all. All you need do is look at the
outright lies he has written about me to see it.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
Alan Baker
May 20, 2012, 2:38:28 AM5/20/12
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In article <bqjgr79f6kc05ktl6...@4ax.com>,
As I've said before, if you want to understand Larry, read this:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder>
:-)
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder>
:-)
Horva...@net.net
May 20, 2012, 8:03:56 AM5/20/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 19:31:46 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
crap:
>On Sat, 19 May 2012 20:10:38 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 19 May 2012 14:54:05 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
>>crap:
>>
>>>The fact that you look for and find other wackos on the Internet to
>>>agree with you shows even more simple mindedness on your part.
>>>
>>>Lloyd is right. Not wanting Obama to be reelected is anyone's right,
>>>but this is silliness and a grown man should recognize that.
>>
>>Once again you ridicule anyone who disagrees with you.
>
>And once again it was well deserved.
Only by your standards.
>On Sat, 19 May 2012 20:10:38 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 19 May 2012 14:54:05 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
>>crap:
>>
>>>The fact that you look for and find other wackos on the Internet to
>>>agree with you shows even more simple mindedness on your part.
>>>
>>>Lloyd is right. Not wanting Obama to be reelected is anyone's right,
>>>but this is silliness and a grown man should recognize that.
>>
>>Once again you ridicule anyone who disagrees with you.
>
>And once again it was well deserved.
Horva...@net.net
May 20, 2012, 8:05:32 AM5/20/12
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On 20 May 2012 00:10:44 GMT, Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>
wrote this crap:
>President! Obviously the time traveling alien lizard people knew all
>this ahead of time and planted the birth announcements in two different
>Honolulu newspapers. Those Manchurian bastards! The sheer audacity of the
>thing is mind-bottling!
Did you actually see those newspapers?
wrote this crap:
>President! Obviously the time traveling alien lizard people knew all
>this ahead of time and planted the birth announcements in two different
>Honolulu newspapers. Those Manchurian bastards! The sheer audacity of the
>thing is mind-bottling!
Horva...@net.net
May 20, 2012, 8:12:01 AM5/20/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 18:18:31 -0700 (PDT), "la...@pivotforpower.com"
<la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote this crap:
> My life is probably in danger for writing this.
>
>Larry
Not to worry. I will send my minions to protect you. But you won't
see them or hear from them. They will be in the background for they
are in danger also.
<la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote this crap:
> My life is probably in danger for writing this.
>
>Larry
see them or hear from them. They will be in the background for they
are in danger also.
Horva...@net.net
May 20, 2012, 8:14:28 AM5/20/12
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On Sat, 19 May 2012 20:59:35 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
crap:
>You're not even important enough to bitch slap.
>LOL You're a trip.
You just love to ridicule anyone who has a different opinion. You are
the most worthless piece of crap on this newsgroup.
crap:
>You're not even important enough to bitch slap.
>LOL You're a trip.
the most worthless piece of crap on this newsgroup.
bkn...@conramp.net
May 20, 2012, 8:17:08 AM5/20/12
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bkn...@conramp.net
May 20, 2012, 8:18:30 AM5/20/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 08:14:28 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>On Sat, 19 May 2012 20:59:35 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
>crap:
>
>>You're not even important enough to bitch slap.
>>LOL You're a trip.
>
>You just love to ridicule anyone who has a different opinion. You are
>the most worthless piece of crap on this newsgroup.
I wouldn't dare try to supplant your position. You and LLLLLlarrrry
>On Sat, 19 May 2012 20:59:35 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
>crap:
>
>>You're not even important enough to bitch slap.
>>LOL You're a trip.
>
>You just love to ridicule anyone who has a different opinion. You are
>the most worthless piece of crap on this newsgroup.
make a fine couple. Get a room. :-)
Alan Baker
May 20, 2012, 10:12:10 AM5/20/12
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In article <flnhr7dhmbqeu73e1...@4ax.com>,
Horva...@net.net wrote:
> On Sat, 19 May 2012 18:18:31 -0700 (PDT), "la...@pivotforpower.com"
> <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote this crap:
>
>
> > My life is probably in danger for writing this.
> >
> >Larry
>
> Not to worry. I will send my minions to protect you.
And they'll bore any evildoers to death?
> On Sat, 19 May 2012 18:18:31 -0700 (PDT), "la...@pivotforpower.com"
> <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote this crap:
>
>
> > My life is probably in danger for writing this.
> >
> >Larry
>
> Not to worry. I will send my minions to protect you.
kenpitts
May 20, 2012, 9:58:30 AM5/20/12
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On May 19, 5:39 pm, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:
> On Sat, 19 May 2012 15:18:03 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts
>
> On Sat, 19 May 2012 15:18:03 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts
>
because of the way he has treated me since the fabrication about me
supposedly "helicoptering" a club at an RSG event in Bellingham WA.
Almost 10 years worth.
You have no idea about the cloth from which either of us are cut.
Ken
kenpitts
May 20, 2012, 10:20:11 AM5/20/12
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On May 20, 7:14 am, Horvath1...@net.net wrote:
> On Sat, 19 May 2012 20:59:35 -0500, bkni...@conramp.net wrote this
in his life other than stirring the shit on this and other
newsgroups.
Ken
> On Sat, 19 May 2012 20:59:35 -0500, bkni...@conramp.net wrote this
> crap:
>
> >You're not even important enough to bitch slap.
> >LOL You're a trip.
>
> You just love to ridicule anyone who has a different opinion. You are
> the most worthless piece of crap on this newsgroup.
>
> Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares
Thank you. That is exactly right. He's a psycho with nothing happening
>
> >You're not even important enough to bitch slap.
> >LOL You're a trip.
>
> You just love to ridicule anyone who has a different opinion. You are
> the most worthless piece of crap on this newsgroup.
>
> Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares
in his life other than stirring the shit on this and other
newsgroups.
Ken
bkn...@conramp.net
May 20, 2012, 11:15:29 AM5/20/12
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To what other newsgroup do I subscribe? Answer: None.
Horva...@net.net
May 20, 2012, 2:03:20 PM5/20/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 07:12:10 -0700, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
Vote for Romney. repeal the nightmares.
wrote this crap:
>> > My life is probably in danger for writing this.
>> >
>> >Larry
>>
>> Not to worry. I will send my minions to protect you.
>
>And they'll bore any evildoers to death?
Nah. That's your job.
>> > My life is probably in danger for writing this.
>> >
>> >Larry
>>
>> Not to worry. I will send my minions to protect you.
>
>And they'll bore any evildoers to death?
Vote for Romney. repeal the nightmares.
Horva...@net.net
May 20, 2012, 2:05:49 PM5/20/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 07:17:08 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
crap:
>>>>
crap:
>>>>
>>>>Once again you ridicule anyone who disagrees with you.
>>>
>>>And once again it was well deserved.
>>
>>Only by your standards.
>
>I would certainly not use your low standards.
You couldn't meet even my low standards.
>>>
>>>And once again it was well deserved.
>>
>>Only by your standards.
>
>I would certainly not use your low standards.
bkn...@conramp.net
May 20, 2012, 2:47:59 PM5/20/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 14:05:49 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>On Sun, 20 May 2012 07:17:08 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
>crap:
>
>>>>>
>>>>>Once again you ridicule anyone who disagrees with you.
>>>>
>>>>And once again it was well deserved.
>>>
>>>Only by your standards.
>>
>>I would certainly not use your low standards.
>
>You couldn't meet even my low standards.
At least you admit to them being such. I don't know of anyone but
>On Sun, 20 May 2012 07:17:08 -0500, bkn...@conramp.net wrote this
>crap:
>
>>>>>
>>>>>Once again you ridicule anyone who disagrees with you.
>>>>
>>>>And once again it was well deserved.
>>>
>>>Only by your standards.
>>
>>I would certainly not use your low standards.
>
>You couldn't meet even my low standards.
LLLLLarrry that could get that low but he does.
>
Don Kirkman
May 20, 2012, 4:11:19 PM5/20/12
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BAR
May 20, 2012, 6:41:37 PM5/20/12
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bkn...@conramp.net
May 20, 2012, 6:52:47 PM5/20/12
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You're out of gas.
BAR
May 20, 2012, 7:11:28 PM5/20/12
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In article <nbtir79llrf95n8gc...@4ax.com>,
bkn...@conramp.net says...
If you are not born on US soil you are not eligible to become US
president. Regardless as to whether you are born of US citizens.
bkn...@conramp.net says...
president. Regardless as to whether you are born of US citizens.
unknown
May 20, 2012, 7:19:07 PM5/20/12
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bkn...@conramp.net
May 20, 2012, 7:22:28 PM5/20/12
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http://uspolitics.about.com/od/politicaljunkies/a/natural_citizen.htm
Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) was born in 1936 at the Coco Solo Naval Air
Station in the Panama Canal Zone. Both parents were U.S. citizens. In
April 2008, the U.S. Senate approved a non-binding resolution
recognizing that McCain is a natural born citizen. McCain was a
presidential candidate in 2000 and the Republican nominee in 2008.
Gov. George Romney (R-MI) was born in 1907 in Mexico. Romney’s
grandfather had emigrated to Mexico in 1886 after Utah outlawed
polygamy, taking his wives and children with him. Romney's father,
Gaskell Romney, and mother, Anna Amelia Pratt, were born in Utah but
married in 1895 in Mexico. Romney was a presidential candidate in
1968.
BAR
May 20, 2012, 7:37:08 PM5/20/12
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In article <vouir7te77tkrmvio...@4ax.com>,
paper it was written on.
> Gov. George Romney (R-MI) was born in 1907 in Mexico. Romney?s
bkn...@conramp.net says...
>
> On Sun, 20 May 2012 19:11:28 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <nbtir79llrf95n8gc...@4ax.com>,
> >bkn...@conramp.net says...
> >>
> >> On Sun, 20 May 2012 18:41:37 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <imdir7tjts9bfllv9...@4ax.com>, donsno2
> >> >@charter.net says...
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, 19 May 2012 20:43:05 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >He wouldn't be eligble for the office of the president if he was born in
> >> >> >Kenya.
> >> >>
> >> >> Prove it or shut up about it.
> >> >
> >> >He wasn't born on US soil.
> >> >
> >> No Bert, that just won't do. He asked you to prove it.
> >> You're out of gas.
> >
> >If you are not born on US soil you are not eligible to become US
> >president. Regardless as to whether you are born of US citizens.
>
> Damn.... you're so full of it I can smell you from here.
>
> http://uspolitics.about.com/od/politicaljunkies/a/natural_citizen.htm
>
> Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) was born in 1936 at the Coco Solo Naval Air
> Station in the Panama Canal Zone. Both parents were U.S. citizens. In
> April 2008, the U.S. Senate approved a non-binding resolution
> recognizing that McCain is a natural born citizen. McCain was a
> presidential candidate in 2000 and the Republican nominee in 2008.
You do know that that a non-binding resolution has the weight of the
>
> On Sun, 20 May 2012 19:11:28 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <nbtir79llrf95n8gc...@4ax.com>,
> >bkn...@conramp.net says...
> >>
> >> On Sun, 20 May 2012 18:41:37 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <imdir7tjts9bfllv9...@4ax.com>, donsno2
> >> >@charter.net says...
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, 19 May 2012 20:43:05 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >He wouldn't be eligble for the office of the president if he was born in
> >> >> >Kenya.
> >> >>
> >> >> Prove it or shut up about it.
> >> >
> >> >He wasn't born on US soil.
> >> >
> >> No Bert, that just won't do. He asked you to prove it.
> >> You're out of gas.
> >
> >If you are not born on US soil you are not eligible to become US
> >president. Regardless as to whether you are born of US citizens.
>
> Damn.... you're so full of it I can smell you from here.
>
> http://uspolitics.about.com/od/politicaljunkies/a/natural_citizen.htm
>
> Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) was born in 1936 at the Coco Solo Naval Air
> Station in the Panama Canal Zone. Both parents were U.S. citizens. In
> April 2008, the U.S. Senate approved a non-binding resolution
> recognizing that McCain is a natural born citizen. McCain was a
> presidential candidate in 2000 and the Republican nominee in 2008.
paper it was written on.
> Gov. George Romney (R-MI) was born in 1907 in Mexico. Romney?s
> grandfather had emigrated to Mexico in 1886 after Utah outlawed
> polygamy, taking his wives and children with him. Romney's father,
> Gaskell Romney, and mother, Anna Amelia Pratt, were born in Utah but
> married in 1895 in Mexico. Romney was a presidential candidate in
> 1968.
Gov. George Romney was not eligible for the office of President.
> polygamy, taking his wives and children with him. Romney's father,
> Gaskell Romney, and mother, Anna Amelia Pratt, were born in Utah but
> married in 1895 in Mexico. Romney was a presidential candidate in
> 1968.
bkn...@conramp.net
May 20, 2012, 7:56:17 PM5/20/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 19:37:08 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
>In article <vouir7te77tkrmvio...@4ax.com>,
>bkn...@conramp.net says...
>> >If you are not born on US soil you are not eligible to become US
>> >president. Regardless as to whether you are born of US citizens.
>>
>> Damn.... you're so full of it I can smell you from here.
>>
>> http://uspolitics.about.com/od/politicaljunkies/a/natural_citizen.htm
>>
>> Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) was born in 1936 at the Coco Solo Naval Air
>> Station in the Panama Canal Zone. Both parents were U.S. citizens. In
>> April 2008, the U.S. Senate approved a non-binding resolution
>> recognizing that McCain is a natural born citizen. McCain was a
>> presidential candidate in 2000 and the Republican nominee in 2008.
>
>You do know that that a non-binding resolution has the weight of the
>paper it was written on.
So if he had been elected President he couldn't have served?
BS
You are unbelievable....and would argue with a stop sign. Are you at
all aware of what a fool you make of yourself?
Why not just once, when you have been shown wrong, why don't you admit
it rather than just post silly rejoinders?
Like saying that West Virginia is a suburb. That one and this one are
lso ridiculous.
>In article <vouir7te77tkrmvio...@4ax.com>,
>bkn...@conramp.net says...
>> >If you are not born on US soil you are not eligible to become US
>> >president. Regardless as to whether you are born of US citizens.
>>
>> Damn.... you're so full of it I can smell you from here.
>>
>> http://uspolitics.about.com/od/politicaljunkies/a/natural_citizen.htm
>>
>> Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) was born in 1936 at the Coco Solo Naval Air
>> Station in the Panama Canal Zone. Both parents were U.S. citizens. In
>> April 2008, the U.S. Senate approved a non-binding resolution
>> recognizing that McCain is a natural born citizen. McCain was a
>> presidential candidate in 2000 and the Republican nominee in 2008.
>
>You do know that that a non-binding resolution has the weight of the
>paper it was written on.
BS
>
>> Gov. George Romney (R-MI) was born in 1907 in Mexico. Romney?s
>> grandfather had emigrated to Mexico in 1886 after Utah outlawed
>> polygamy, taking his wives and children with him. Romney's father,
>> Gaskell Romney, and mother, Anna Amelia Pratt, were born in Utah but
>> married in 1895 in Mexico. Romney was a presidential candidate in
>> 1968.
>
>Gov. George Romney was not eligible for the office of President.
So the GOP allowed him to campaign for the nomination. Riiiight.
>> Gov. George Romney (R-MI) was born in 1907 in Mexico. Romney?s
>> grandfather had emigrated to Mexico in 1886 after Utah outlawed
>> polygamy, taking his wives and children with him. Romney's father,
>> Gaskell Romney, and mother, Anna Amelia Pratt, were born in Utah but
>> married in 1895 in Mexico. Romney was a presidential candidate in
>> 1968.
>
>Gov. George Romney was not eligible for the office of President.
You are unbelievable....and would argue with a stop sign. Are you at
all aware of what a fool you make of yourself?
Why not just once, when you have been shown wrong, why don't you admit
it rather than just post silly rejoinders?
Like saying that West Virginia is a suburb. That one and this one are
lso ridiculous.
kenpitts
May 20, 2012, 10:07:27 PM5/20/12
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rec.skiing.alpine. People lost their jobs at Boeing and other places.
Baker also causes problems and is a pariah at the Mac newsgroup. He
should be in a padded room somewhere, rather than his parents
basement.
Ken
kenpitts
May 20, 2012, 10:05:41 PM5/20/12
to
William Clark
May 20, 2012, 10:23:43 PM5/20/12
to
In article <MPG.2a233d2...@news.giganews.com>,
BS - I didn't believe until now that you were really that ignorant and
stupid. But you clearly are.
stupid. But you clearly are.
bkn...@conramp.net
May 20, 2012, 10:48:26 PM5/20/12
to
On Sun, 20 May 2012 19:07:27 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts
<ken....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 20, 9:20 am, kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 20, 7:14 am, Horvath1...@net.net wrote:
>>
>> > On Sat, 19 May 2012 20:59:35 -0500, bkni...@conramp.net wrote this
>> > crap:
>>
>> > >You're not even important enough to bitch slap.
>> > >LOL You're a trip.
>>
>> > You just love to ridicule anyone who has a different opinion. You are
>> > the most worthless piece of crap on this newsgroup.
>>
>> > Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares
>>
>> Thank you. That is exactly right. He's a psycho with nothing happening
>> in his life other than stirring the shit on this and other
>> newsgroups.
>>
>> Ken
>
>I meant Baker, not you.
That was apparent and points out that you tend to spout off without
<ken....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 20, 9:20 am, kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 20, 7:14 am, Horvath1...@net.net wrote:
>>
>> > On Sat, 19 May 2012 20:59:35 -0500, bkni...@conramp.net wrote this
>> > crap:
>>
>> > >You're not even important enough to bitch slap.
>> > >LOL You're a trip.
>>
>> > You just love to ridicule anyone who has a different opinion. You are
>> > the most worthless piece of crap on this newsgroup.
>>
>> > Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares
>>
>> Thank you. That is exactly right. He's a psycho with nothing happening
>> in his life other than stirring the shit on this and other
>> newsgroups.
>>
>> Ken
>
>I meant Baker, not you.
knowing who you're talking about or what you
are talking about. It's recurring.
> He was in the middle of a huge blow-up at
>rec.skiing.alpine. People lost their jobs at Boeing and other places.
>Baker also causes problems and is a pariah at the Mac newsgroup. He
>should be in a padded room somewhere, rather than his parents
>basement.
wild accusations that you blithely accept? You have this propensity
to think that your opinions are facts, and that other's opinions that
agree with you are facts. They are only opinions and suppositions.
There are those who think that you deserve a padded room. Are those
opinions or facts?
kenpitts
May 20, 2012, 11:27:37 PM5/20/12
to
On May 20, 9:48 pm, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:
> On Sun, 20 May 2012 19:07:27 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 20 May 2012 19:07:27 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
were death threats and the Seattle PD investigated. I have lurked at
the newsgroup. Baker is a prime topic of discussion. He also is at the
Mac newsgroup.
Those are opinions about me and they are unfounded. And you are saying
that to attack me once again.
Ken
http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/1999/11/32550
Alan Baker
May 21, 2012, 1:36:20 AM5/21/12
to
In article
<68840f68-7551-486b...@t35g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
Yup. About the smartest answer you could have posted, Ken.
:-)
<68840f68-7551-486b...@t35g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
:-)
Alan Baker
May 21, 2012, 1:37:10 AM5/21/12
to
In article
<e0af1983-f6f7-4e63...@m10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
> Baker also causes problems and is a pariah at the Mac newsgroup. He
> should be in a padded room somewhere, rather than his parents
> basement.
As always, you show you true character. I live for that.
<e0af1983-f6f7-4e63...@m10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
kenpitts <ken....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 20, 9:20 am, kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 20, 7:14 am, Horvath1...@net.net wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 19 May 2012 20:59:35 -0500, bkni...@conramp.net wrote this
> > > crap:
> >
> > > >You're not even important enough to bitch slap.
> > > >LOL You're a trip.
> >
> > > You just love to ridicule anyone who has a different opinion. You are
> > > the most worthless piece of crap on this newsgroup.
> >
> > > Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares
> >
> > Thank you. That is exactly right. He's a psycho with nothing happening
> > in his life other than stirring the shit on this and other
> > newsgroups.
> >
> > Ken
>
> I meant Baker, not you. He was in the middle of a huge blow-up at
> rec.skiing.alpine. People lost their jobs at Boeing and other places.
Nope. Wrong again. I wasn't even posting in RSA when that stuff happened.
> On May 20, 9:20 am, kenpitts <ken.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 20, 7:14 am, Horvath1...@net.net wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 19 May 2012 20:59:35 -0500, bkni...@conramp.net wrote this
> > > crap:
> >
> > > >You're not even important enough to bitch slap.
> > > >LOL You're a trip.
> >
> > > You just love to ridicule anyone who has a different opinion. You are
> > > the most worthless piece of crap on this newsgroup.
> >
> > > Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares
> >
> > Thank you. That is exactly right. He's a psycho with nothing happening
> > in his life other than stirring the shit on this and other
> > newsgroups.
> >
> > Ken
>
> I meant Baker, not you. He was in the middle of a huge blow-up at
> rec.skiing.alpine. People lost their jobs at Boeing and other places.
> Baker also causes problems and is a pariah at the Mac newsgroup. He
> should be in a padded room somewhere, rather than his parents
> basement.
Alan Baker
May 21, 2012, 1:41:32 AM5/21/12
to
In article
<cce17391-3634-46a6...@dg7g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
And I wasn't posting to RSA when any of that was happening. I came along
years afterward.
Something you could have and would have figured out, if you weren't a
lying asshole.
:-)
> the newsgroup. Baker is a prime topic of discussion. He also is at the
> Mac newsgroup.
>
> Those are opinions about me and they are unfounded. And you are saying
> that to attack me once again.
Like your unfounded opinion that I live in my mother's basement? It
would be difficult as it is mostly filled with my step-dad's model train
layout.
:-)
>
> Ken
>
> http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/1999/11/32550
Here's another link for you:
<https://groups.google.com/groups/search?safe=off&q=group%3Arec.skiing.al
pine+author%3Aalan+author%3Abaker&btnG=Search&as_mind=16&as_minm=11&as_mi
ny=1981&as_maxd=16&as_maxm=11&as_maxy=1999&as_drrb=b&sitesearch=>
See if you're bright enough to figure out what it means and have enough
shreds of integrity to apologize.
<cce17391-3634-46a6...@dg7g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
years afterward.
Something you could have and would have figured out, if you weren't a
lying asshole.
:-)
> the newsgroup. Baker is a prime topic of discussion. He also is at the
> Mac newsgroup.
>
> Those are opinions about me and they are unfounded. And you are saying
> that to attack me once again.
would be difficult as it is mostly filled with my step-dad's model train
layout.
:-)
>
> Ken
>
> http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/1999/11/32550
Here's another link for you:
<https://groups.google.com/groups/search?safe=off&q=group%3Arec.skiing.al
pine+author%3Aalan+author%3Abaker&btnG=Search&as_mind=16&as_minm=11&as_mi
ny=1981&as_maxd=16&as_maxm=11&as_maxy=1999&as_drrb=b&sitesearch=>
See if you're bright enough to figure out what it means and have enough
shreds of integrity to apologize.
Alan Baker
May 21, 2012, 1:44:11 AM5/21/12
to
In article
<646e58d2-9d02-4a07...@r3g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
You "despise" me because I call you on things and use facts to do it.
>
> You have no idea about the cloth from which either of us are cut.
>
> Ken
<646e58d2-9d02-4a07...@r3g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
>
> You have no idea about the cloth from which either of us are cut.
>
> Ken
Don Kirkman
May 21, 2012, 2:00:49 AM5/21/12
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the Philippines came under the US the same year.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
bkn...@conramp.net
May 21, 2012, 7:29:59 AM5/21/12
to
On Sun, 20 May 2012 20:27:37 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts
<ken....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 20, 9:48 pm, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 May 2012 19:07:27 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts
>>
<ken....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 20, 9:48 pm, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 May 2012 19:07:27 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts
>>
>> >> Thank you. That is exactly right. He's a psycho with nothing happening
>> >> in his life other than stirring the shit on this and other
>> >> newsgroups.
>>
>> >> Ken>>
>> >I meant Baker, not you.
>> >> in his life other than stirring the shit on this and other
>> >> newsgroups.
>>
>> >> Ken>>
>> >I meant Baker, not you.
>> > He was in the middle of a huge blow-up at
>> >rec.skiing.alpine. People lost their jobs at Boeing and other places.
>> >Baker also causes problems and is a pariah at the Mac newsgroup. He
>> >should be in a padded room somewhere, rather than his parents
>> >basement.
>>
>> Again, how do you know where or how he lives except for others' making
>> wild accusations that you blithely accept? You have this propensity
>> to think that your opinions are facts, and that other's opinions that
>> agree with you are facts. They are only opinions and suppositions.
>>
>> There are those who think that you deserve a padded room. Are those
>> opinions or facts?
>
>The contractors who lost there jobs were part of a news story. There
>were death threats and the Seattle PD investigated. I have lurked at
>the newsgroup. Baker is a prime topic of discussion. He also is at the
>Mac newsgroup.
So? More assumptions on your part Ken. A link you provided by you
>> >rec.skiing.alpine. People lost their jobs at Boeing and other places.
>> >Baker also causes problems and is a pariah at the Mac newsgroup. He
>> >should be in a padded room somewhere, rather than his parents
>> >basement.
>>
>> Again, how do you know where or how he lives except for others' making
>> wild accusations that you blithely accept? You have this propensity
>> to think that your opinions are facts, and that other's opinions that
>> agree with you are facts. They are only opinions and suppositions.
>>
>> There are those who think that you deserve a padded room. Are those
>> opinions or facts?
>
>The contractors who lost there jobs were part of a news story. There
>were death threats and the Seattle PD investigated. I have lurked at
>the newsgroup. Baker is a prime topic of discussion. He also is at the
>Mac newsgroup.
below shows that Baker had nothing to do with the Boeing situation,
but you suggest, without any proof, that he did. That's wrong.
>
>Those are opinions about me and they are unfounded. And you are saying
>that to attack me once again.
No Ken, I'm trying to point out that you think your opinions are valid
>Those are opinions about me and they are unfounded. And you are saying
>that to attack me once again.
and others aren't, i.e. you think Baker should be in a padded room and
that's fine. If someone thinks you should be, that's unfair in your
opinion. Is that clear enough?
>
>http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/1999/11/32550
BAR
May 21, 2012, 7:39:44 AM5/21/12
to
In article <tr0jr7dq1pp0ungh5...@4ax.com>,
bkn...@conramp.net says...
> BS
> >
> >> Gov. George Romney (R-MI) was born in 1907 in Mexico. Romney?s
> >> grandfather had emigrated to Mexico in 1886 after Utah outlawed
> >> polygamy, taking his wives and children with him. Romney's father,
> >> Gaskell Romney, and mother, Anna Amelia Pratt, were born in Utah but
> >> married in 1895 in Mexico. Romney was a presidential candidate in
> >> 1968.
> >
> >Gov. George Romney was not eligible for the office of President.
>
> So the GOP allowed him to campaign for the nomination. Riiiight.
I was 7 years old in 1968, I was more interested in blowing up boats in
Pearl Harbor, learning Karate, and watching cartoons on TV.
> You are unbelievable....and would argue with a stop sign. Are you at
> all aware of what a fool you make of yourself?
Gov. George Romney was a Mexican.
John McCain was a US citizen but he wasn't born on US soil. Anyone born
at Gitmo is a Cuban, the land is leased and it is not US territory.
My aunt was born in China she was a citizen of China of parents of US
citizens. When she was 18 she renounce here Chinese citizenship. She
also had to travel to Shanghai to get a copy of her birth certificate.
My aunt could not be US president.
> Why not just once, when you have been shown wrong, why don't you admit
> it rather than just post silly rejoinders?
I am not wrong.
> Like saying that West Virginia is a suburb. That one and this one are
> lso ridiculous.
The pan handle of West Virginia is a suburb of Washington, DC.
bkn...@conramp.net says...
>
> On Sun, 20 May 2012 19:37:08 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <vouir7te77tkrmvio...@4ax.com>,
> >bkn...@conramp.net says...
>
> >> >If you are not born on US soil you are not eligible to become US
> >> >president. Regardless as to whether you are born of US citizens.
> >>
> >> Damn.... you're so full of it I can smell you from here.
> >>
> >> http://uspolitics.about.com/od/politicaljunkies/a/natural_citizen.htm
> >>
> >> Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) was born in 1936 at the Coco Solo Naval Air
> >> Station in the Panama Canal Zone. Both parents were U.S. citizens. In
> >> April 2008, the U.S. Senate approved a non-binding resolution
> >> recognizing that McCain is a natural born citizen. McCain was a
> >> presidential candidate in 2000 and the Republican nominee in 2008.
> >
> >You do know that that a non-binding resolution has the weight of the
> >paper it was written on.
>
> So if he had been elected President he couldn't have served?
No.
> On Sun, 20 May 2012 19:37:08 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <vouir7te77tkrmvio...@4ax.com>,
> >bkn...@conramp.net says...
>
> >> >If you are not born on US soil you are not eligible to become US
> >> >president. Regardless as to whether you are born of US citizens.
> >>
> >> Damn.... you're so full of it I can smell you from here.
> >>
> >> http://uspolitics.about.com/od/politicaljunkies/a/natural_citizen.htm
> >>
> >> Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) was born in 1936 at the Coco Solo Naval Air
> >> Station in the Panama Canal Zone. Both parents were U.S. citizens. In
> >> April 2008, the U.S. Senate approved a non-binding resolution
> >> recognizing that McCain is a natural born citizen. McCain was a
> >> presidential candidate in 2000 and the Republican nominee in 2008.
> >
> >You do know that that a non-binding resolution has the weight of the
> >paper it was written on.
>
> So if he had been elected President he couldn't have served?
> BS
> >
> >> Gov. George Romney (R-MI) was born in 1907 in Mexico. Romney?s
> >> grandfather had emigrated to Mexico in 1886 after Utah outlawed
> >> polygamy, taking his wives and children with him. Romney's father,
> >> Gaskell Romney, and mother, Anna Amelia Pratt, were born in Utah but
> >> married in 1895 in Mexico. Romney was a presidential candidate in
> >> 1968.
> >
> >Gov. George Romney was not eligible for the office of President.
>
> So the GOP allowed him to campaign for the nomination. Riiiight.
Pearl Harbor, learning Karate, and watching cartoons on TV.
> You are unbelievable....and would argue with a stop sign. Are you at
> all aware of what a fool you make of yourself?
John McCain was a US citizen but he wasn't born on US soil. Anyone born
at Gitmo is a Cuban, the land is leased and it is not US territory.
My aunt was born in China she was a citizen of China of parents of US
citizens. When she was 18 she renounce here Chinese citizenship. She
also had to travel to Shanghai to get a copy of her birth certificate.
My aunt could not be US president.
> Why not just once, when you have been shown wrong, why don't you admit
> it rather than just post silly rejoinders?
> Like saying that West Virginia is a suburb. That one and this one are
> lso ridiculous.
BAR
May 21, 2012, 7:46:24 AM5/21/12
to
In article <clark-C349C9....@news.eternal-september.org>,
cl...@nospammatsceng.ohio-state.edu says...
You cannot follow a thread can you Billie.
The discussion went like this:
Don: "Besides, even if he had been born in Kenya he would still have
born in Kenya."
Don: "Prove it or shut up about it."
BAR: "He wasn't born on US soil."
The discussion was about whether Obama would be eligible to hold the
office of president of the US if he had been born in Kenya.
Please do try and keep up with the discussion because it too a what if
turn.
cl...@nospammatsceng.ohio-state.edu says...
The discussion went like this:
Don: "Besides, even if he had been born in Kenya he would still have
American citizenship because his mother was undeniably a US citizen."
BAR: "He wouldn't be eligble for the office of the president if he was
born in Kenya."
Don: "Prove it or shut up about it."
BAR: "He wasn't born on US soil."
The discussion was about whether Obama would be eligible to hold the
office of president of the US if he had been born in Kenya.
Please do try and keep up with the discussion because it too a what if
turn.
BAR
May 21, 2012, 7:49:34 AM5/21/12
to
In article <c4mjr7dqgsqh1us7v...@4ax.com>, donsno2
We were talking about Kenya. Do you remember that you said "even if he
had been born in Kenya..." I never made any statements about Hawaii or
PR.
Let's stick to the "even if he had been born in Kenya...". If Obama was
born in Kenya he would not meet the requirements for being President of
the US.
had been born in Kenya..." I never made any statements about Hawaii or
PR.
Let's stick to the "even if he had been born in Kenya...". If Obama was
born in Kenya he would not meet the requirements for being President of
the US.
William Clark
May 21, 2012, 8:11:02 AM5/21/12
to
William Clark
May 21, 2012, 8:13:53 AM5/21/12
to
In article <MPG.2a23f51...@news.giganews.com>,
No, you said "He wasn't born on US soil". That is a clearly definitive
claim that Obama "wasn't born on US soil". If you didn't mean that, then
please go and take 3rd grade English again, because you are incapable of
expressing yourself clearly and unambiguously.
Now I know you are clutching at anything to try to bring the POTUS down,
but this one just won't fly.
claim that Obama "wasn't born on US soil". If you didn't mean that, then
please go and take 3rd grade English again, because you are incapable of
expressing yourself clearly and unambiguously.
Now I know you are clutching at anything to try to bring the POTUS down,
but this one just won't fly.
Lloyd
May 21, 2012, 8:43:50 AM5/21/12
to
In article <MPG.2a23f5d...@news.giganews.com>,
I agree, IF he had been born in Kenya he would not be eligible. But
that isn't the case.
that isn't the case.
Howard Brazee
May 21, 2012, 9:44:13 AM5/21/12
to
On Sun, 20 May 2012 23:00:49 -0700, Don Kirkman <don...@charter.net>
wrote:
>>He wasn't born on US soil.
>
>Hawaii has been US soil since 1898, just as long as Puerto Rico--and
>the Philippines came under the US the same year.
Of course, if that's an issue, George Washington wasn't born on U.S.
soil...
--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
- James Madison
wrote:
>>He wasn't born on US soil.
>
>Hawaii has been US soil since 1898, just as long as Puerto Rico--and
>the Philippines came under the US the same year.
soil...
--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
- James Madison
Horva...@net.net
May 21, 2012, 10:24:26 AM5/21/12
to
On Mon, 21 May 2012 07:49:34 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote this
crap:
>Let's stick to the "even if he had been born in Kenya...". If Obama was
>born in Kenya he would not meet the requirements for being President of
>the US.
Is Kenya one of the 57 states that Obama has visited?
Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares.
crap:
>Let's stick to the "even if he had been born in Kenya...". If Obama was
>born in Kenya he would not meet the requirements for being President of
>the US.
Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares.
Horva...@net.net
May 21, 2012, 10:25:31 AM5/21/12
to
On Mon, 21 May 2012 08:11:02 -0400, William Clark
<cl...@nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote this crap:
>
>But he was not born in Kenya.
Can you prove that?
<cl...@nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote this crap:
>
>But he was not born in Kenya.
Horva...@net.net
May 21, 2012, 10:27:49 AM5/21/12
to
On Mon, 21 May 2012 07:44:13 -0600, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net>
wrote this crap:
>On Sun, 20 May 2012 23:00:49 -0700, Don Kirkman <don...@charter.net>
>wrote:
>
>>>He wasn't born on US soil.
>>
>>Hawaii has been US soil since 1898, just as long as Puerto Rico--and
>>the Philippines came under the US the same year.
>
>Of course, if that's an issue, George Washington wasn't born on U.S.
>soil...
I always thought he was born in Virginia.
wrote this crap:
>On Sun, 20 May 2012 23:00:49 -0700, Don Kirkman <don...@charter.net>
>wrote:
>
>>>He wasn't born on US soil.
>>
>>Hawaii has been US soil since 1898, just as long as Puerto Rico--and
>>the Philippines came under the US the same year.
>
>Of course, if that's an issue, George Washington wasn't born on U.S.
>soil...
bkn...@conramp.net
May 21, 2012, 11:23:17 AM5/21/12
to
On Mon, 21 May 2012 07:39:44 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
>In article <tr0jr7dq1pp0ungh5...@4ax.com>,
>bkn...@conramp.net says...
>>
>> On Sun, 20 May 2012 19:37:08 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <vouir7te77tkrmvio...@4ax.com>,
>> >bkn...@conramp.net says...
>>
>> >> >If you are not born on US soil you are not eligible to become US
>> >> >president. Regardless as to whether you are born of US citizens.
>> >>
>> >> Damn.... you're so full of it I can smell you from here.
>> >>
>> >> http://uspolitics.about.com/od/politicaljunkies/a/natural_citizen.htm
>> >>
>> >> Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) was born in 1936 at the Coco Solo Naval Air
>> >> Station in the Panama Canal Zone. Both parents were U.S. citizens. In
>> >> April 2008, the U.S. Senate approved a non-binding resolution
>> >> recognizing that McCain is a natural born citizen. McCain was a
>> >> presidential candidate in 2000 and the Republican nominee in 2008.
>> >
>> >You do know that that a non-binding resolution has the weight of the
>> >paper it was written on.
>>
>> So if he had been elected President he couldn't have served?
>
>No.
Wrong...
>In article <tr0jr7dq1pp0ungh5...@4ax.com>,
>bkn...@conramp.net says...
>>
>> On Sun, 20 May 2012 19:37:08 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <vouir7te77tkrmvio...@4ax.com>,
>> >bkn...@conramp.net says...
>>
>> >> >If you are not born on US soil you are not eligible to become US
>> >> >president. Regardless as to whether you are born of US citizens.
>> >>
>> >> Damn.... you're so full of it I can smell you from here.
>> >>
>> >> http://uspolitics.about.com/od/politicaljunkies/a/natural_citizen.htm
>> >>
>> >> Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) was born in 1936 at the Coco Solo Naval Air
>> >> Station in the Panama Canal Zone. Both parents were U.S. citizens. In
>> >> April 2008, the U.S. Senate approved a non-binding resolution
>> >> recognizing that McCain is a natural born citizen. McCain was a
>> >> presidential candidate in 2000 and the Republican nominee in 2008.
>> >
>> >You do know that that a non-binding resolution has the weight of the
>> >paper it was written on.
>>
>> So if he had been elected President he couldn't have served?
>
>No.
>> >
>> >> Gov. George Romney (R-MI) was born in 1907 in Mexico. Romney?s
>> >> grandfather had emigrated to Mexico in 1886 after Utah outlawed
>> >> polygamy, taking his wives and children with him. Romney's father,
>> >> Gaskell Romney, and mother, Anna Amelia Pratt, were born in Utah but
>> >> married in 1895 in Mexico. Romney was a presidential candidate in
>> >> 1968.
>> >
>> >Gov. George Romney was not eligible for the office of President.
>>
>> So the GOP allowed him to campaign for the nomination. Riiiight.
>
>I was 7 years old in 1968, I was more interested in blowing up boats in
>Pearl Harbor, learning Karate, and watching cartoons on TV.
anything?
You're 51 years old and still this stupid????
>
>> You are unbelievable....and would argue with a stop sign. Are you at
>> all aware of what a fool you make of yourself?
>
>Gov. George Romney was a Mexican.
Wrong.
>> You are unbelievable....and would argue with a stop sign. Are you at
>> all aware of what a fool you make of yourself?
>
>Gov. George Romney was a Mexican.
>
>John McCain was a US citizen but he wasn't born on US soil. Anyone born
>at Gitmo is a Cuban, the land is leased and it is not US territory.
>
Wrong.
>John McCain was a US citizen but he wasn't born on US soil. Anyone born
>at Gitmo is a Cuban, the land is leased and it is not US territory.
>
>My aunt was born in China she was a citizen of China of parents of US
>citizens. When she was 18 she renounce here Chinese citizenship. She
>also had to travel to Shanghai to get a copy of her birth certificate.
>My aunt could not be US president.
Wrong.
>citizens. When she was 18 she renounce here Chinese citizenship. She
>also had to travel to Shanghai to get a copy of her birth certificate.
>My aunt could not be US president.
>
>> Why not just once, when you have been shown wrong, why don't you admit
>> it rather than just post silly rejoinders?
>
>I am not wrong.
Wrong.
>> Why not just once, when you have been shown wrong, why don't you admit
>> it rather than just post silly rejoinders?
>
>I am not wrong.
Count 'em. Five (5) wrongs in this post alone. You're setting
records.
>
>> Like saying that West Virginia is a suburb. That one and this one are
>> lso ridiculous.
>
>The pan handle of West Virginia is a suburb of Washington, DC.
First, that isn't what you stated. You said that West
>> Like saying that West Virginia is a suburb. That one and this one are
>> lso ridiculous.
>
>The pan handle of West Virginia is a suburb of Washington, DC.
Virginia...which is a state...is a suburb. That would make N.J. and
Conn. suburbs of NYC.
Next, panhandle is one word Bert
Carbon
May 21, 2012, 11:27:41 AM5/21/12
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newspapers shortly after his birth. Do you honestly think that was part
of some long-distance plot from Kenya to qualify Obama to run for
President? I know parents often have big dreams for their kids, but this
is ridiculous.
Don Kirkman
May 21, 2012, 12:03:57 PM5/21/12
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shut up about it.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
Don Kirkman
May 21, 2012, 12:03:57 PM5/21/12
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>Gov. George Romney was a Mexican.
Was not.
>John McCain was a US citizen but he wasn't born on US soil. Anyone born
>at Gitmo is a Cuban, the land is leased and it is not US territory.
wrong on that issue, too). The Guantanamo naval base was under US
control, and still is. Besides, once again, McCain also was born to
US citizen parents **in the Panama Canal zone,* which became US
territory with the building of the canal between 1904 and 1914. The
US was granted the Canal Zone under a treaty with Panama which lasted
until we returned 60% back to Panama in 1979 and the balance in 1999.
McCain was certainly born during the years of US control.
>My aunt was born in China she was a citizen of China of parents of US
>citizens. When she was 18 she renounce here Chinese citizenship. She
>also had to travel to Shanghai to get a copy of her birth certificate.
>My aunt could not be US president.
needed her birth certificate to prove that her parents were US
citizens. Why would she need it for proving her Chinese citizenship
which she was renouncing?
>> Why not just once, when you have been shown wrong, why don't you admit
>> it rather than just post silly rejoinders?
>
>I am not wrong.
>
>> Like saying that West Virginia is a suburb. That one and this one are
>> lso ridiculous.
>
>The pan handle of West Virginia is a suburb of Washington, DC.
Virginia. I'm beginning to think you're on your way around the bend.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
la...@pivotforpower.com
May 21, 2012, 1:32:35 PM5/21/12
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Obama's parents were aware of the law. She brought the baby back from Kenya and tried desperately to get a Hawaii doctor to sign a birth certificate. She failed, they are not dishonest. So she ran the birth announcement in the local papers.
Later, when he decided to run for president, his team depended on the guilt of America to preclude the proper vetting of this half-black candidate. They suspected he was born elsewhere because he has stated as much dozens of times in prior years. Likely he enrolled at Punehoe and elsewhere as a "foreign exchange" student-- so those records were "sealed." But the media were in love with our first black President-- so an entire industry bas born--about ridiculing any and all who brought up doubts about his eligibility. Someone realized that our collective guilt, our collective fear of being called "racist" would protect him. They calculated that NOBODY would demand to see his school records, his IQ, and much else that is routinely required of presidential candidates. Suddenly if you asked, you were screamed down, "racist!!!!!" So even conservative talk radio was intimidated.
And some here are continuing that same attempt to intimidate and ridicule-- because they know very well that the dozens of attempts to expose him have not all been phony. Where there is smoke, there is probably fire.
Larry
bkn...@conramp.net
May 21, 2012, 1:46:31 PM5/21/12
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LOL
Alan Baker
May 21, 2012, 1:54:58 PM5/21/12
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In article <cfvkr7904r2609l03...@4ax.com>,
Larry isn't actually that deranged: what he is is that dishonorable.
Larry is a narcissist with fantasies about his own importance that allow
him to lie about anything and anyone, because he desperately needs to
believe that he is special and that lying about other people to further
his own ends is justified by his special status.
Larry is a narcissist with fantasies about his own importance that allow
him to lie about anything and anyone, because he desperately needs to
believe that he is special and that lying about other people to further
his own ends is justified by his special status.
Howard Brazee
May 21, 2012, 2:02:08 PM5/21/12
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 10:27:49 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>>
>>>>He wasn't born on US soil.
>>>
>>>Hawaii has been US soil since 1898, just as long as Puerto Rico--and
>>>the Philippines came under the US the same year.
>>
>>Of course, if that's an issue, George Washington wasn't born on U.S.
>>soil...
>
>I always thought he was born in Virginia.
But he was born there before Virginia was part of the United States.
>>
>>>>He wasn't born on US soil.
>>>
>>>Hawaii has been US soil since 1898, just as long as Puerto Rico--and
>>>the Philippines came under the US the same year.
>>
>>Of course, if that's an issue, George Washington wasn't born on U.S.
>>soil...
>
>I always thought he was born in Virginia.
Not an issue if we accept the legal definition of "Natural born
citizen", but birthers only accept what they want to accept.
Carbon
May 21, 2012, 2:07:58 PM5/21/12
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 10:32:35 -0700, la...@pivotforpower.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 21, 2012 8:27:41 AM UTC-7, Carbon wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 May 2012 07:49:34 -0400, BAR wrote:
>>
>>> Let's stick to the "even if he had been born in Kenya...". If Obama
>>> was born in Kenya he would not meet the requirements for being
>>> President of the US.
>>
>> Obama's parents printed birth announcements in two (2) Honolulu
>> newspapers shortly after his birth. Do you honestly think that was
>> part of some long-distance plot from Kenya to qualify Obama to run
>> for President? I know parents often have big dreams for their kids,
>> but this is ridiculous.
>
> It was not about the presidency. They just wanted their baby to be an
> american citizen.
Which is why your argument is so stupid. Even if he was born outside the
> On Monday, May 21, 2012 8:27:41 AM UTC-7, Carbon wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 May 2012 07:49:34 -0400, BAR wrote:
>>
>>> Let's stick to the "even if he had been born in Kenya...". If Obama
>>> was born in Kenya he would not meet the requirements for being
>>> President of the US.
>>
>> Obama's parents printed birth announcements in two (2) Honolulu
>> newspapers shortly after his birth. Do you honestly think that was
>> part of some long-distance plot from Kenya to qualify Obama to run
>> for President? I know parents often have big dreams for their kids,
>> but this is ridiculous.
>
> It was not about the presidency. They just wanted their baby to be an
> american citizen.
US he would have automatically gotten citizenship because his mother was
an American citizen.
How do I know this? My wife was born in Canada to an American mother and
has dual citizenship.
> His mother was 17 when he was born and his father was not a US
> Citizen. At the time a baby born outside the US to a mother not 18
> years old was NOT automatically a US Citizen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham
Lloyd
May 21, 2012, 2:11:05 PM5/21/12
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In article <23dfc380-d62f-4944...@googlegroups.com>,
And as usual, there is all your conjecture gleaned from a plethora of
nutter websites and not even having the guts to reference them.
No proof of any of your bullshit is provided by you or anyone else. I
guess you are of the school that says 'if you say it often enough, it
must be true'! Fortunately the more sane of use don't buy that bs
theory.
nutter websites and not even having the guts to reference them.
No proof of any of your bullshit is provided by you or anyone else. I
guess you are of the school that says 'if you say it often enough, it
must be true'! Fortunately the more sane of use don't buy that bs
theory.
Lloyd
May 21, 2012, 2:13:10 PM5/21/12
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In article <qb0lr7hr7h1l1lmdt...@4ax.com>,
Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 May 2012 10:27:49 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>
> >>
> >>>>He wasn't born on US soil.
> >>>
> >>>Hawaii has been US soil since 1898, just as long as Puerto Rico--and
> >>>the Philippines came under the US the same year.
> >>
> >>Of course, if that's an issue, George Washington wasn't born on U.S.
> >>soil...
> >
> >I always thought he was born in Virginia.
>
> But he was born there before Virginia was part of the United States.
> Not an issue if we accept the legal definition of "Natural born
> citizen", but birthers only accept what they want to accept.
Don't call them 'birthers', call them what they are nutters!
> On Mon, 21 May 2012 10:27:49 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>
> >>
> >>>>He wasn't born on US soil.
> >>>
> >>>Hawaii has been US soil since 1898, just as long as Puerto Rico--and
> >>>the Philippines came under the US the same year.
> >>
> >>Of course, if that's an issue, George Washington wasn't born on U.S.
> >>soil...
> >
> >I always thought he was born in Virginia.
>
> But he was born there before Virginia was part of the United States.
> Not an issue if we accept the legal definition of "Natural born
> citizen", but birthers only accept what they want to accept.
Lloyd
May 21, 2012, 2:12:24 PM5/21/12
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In article <e1kkr7pb8ona9oms2...@4ax.com>,
It has been proven, only the terminally stupid believe otherwise.
Alan Baker
May 21, 2012, 2:13:41 PM5/21/12
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In article <pan.2012.05...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>,
Little things like facts don't measure up to Larry's need for his own
statements to be taken as gospel:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder>
statements to be taken as gospel:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder>
Carbon
May 21, 2012, 2:27:45 PM5/21/12
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la...@pivotforpower.com
May 21, 2012, 2:54:28 PM5/21/12
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Larry
Carbon
May 21, 2012, 2:57:52 PM5/21/12
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 11:54:28 -0700, la...@pivotforpower.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 21, 2012 11:27:45 AM UTC-7, Carbon wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 May 2012 13:13:10 -0500, Lloyd wrote:
>>> In article <qb0lr7hr7h1l1lmdt...@4ax.com>, Howard
>>> Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 21 May 2012 10:27:49 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He wasn't born on US soil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hawaii has been US soil since 1898, just as long as Puerto
>>>>>>> Rico--and the Philippines came under the US the same year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, if that's an issue, George Washington wasn't born on
>>>>>> U.S. soil...
>>>>>
>>>>> I always thought he was born in Virginia.
>>>>
>>>> But he was born there before Virginia was part of the United
>>>> States. Not an issue if we accept the legal definition of "Natural
>>>> born citizen", but birthers only accept what they want to accept.
>>>
>>> Don't call them 'birthers', call them what they are nutters!
>>
>> They must be nutters since they don't see the damage they are doing.
>
> "they" are people with impressive credentials.
"They" are nutters like you.
> On Monday, May 21, 2012 11:27:45 AM UTC-7, Carbon wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 May 2012 13:13:10 -0500, Lloyd wrote:
>>> In article <qb0lr7hr7h1l1lmdt...@4ax.com>, Howard
>>> Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 21 May 2012 10:27:49 -0400, Horva...@net.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He wasn't born on US soil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hawaii has been US soil since 1898, just as long as Puerto
>>>>>>> Rico--and the Philippines came under the US the same year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, if that's an issue, George Washington wasn't born on
>>>>>> U.S. soil...
>>>>>
>>>>> I always thought he was born in Virginia.
>>>>
>>>> But he was born there before Virginia was part of the United
>>>> States. Not an issue if we accept the legal definition of "Natural
>>>> born citizen", but birthers only accept what they want to accept.
>>>
>>> Don't call them 'birthers', call them what they are nutters!
>>
>> They must be nutters since they don't see the damage they are doing.
>
> "they" are people with impressive credentials.
Alan Baker
May 21, 2012, 2:57:27 PM5/21/12
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Lloyd
May 21, 2012, 3:05:45 PM5/21/12
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In article <5f6ea1eb-c63e-45b5...@googlegroups.com>,
"la...@pivotforpower.com" <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
"la...@pivotforpower.com" <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
prevent them from being nuts. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Howard Brazee
May 21, 2012, 3:03:07 PM5/21/12
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 13:12:24 -0500, Lloyd <lloydp...@me.com> wrote:
>> >But he was not born in Kenya.
>>
>>
>> Can you prove that?
>>
>> Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares.
>
>It has been proven, only the terminally stupid believe otherwise.
Refusal to believe facts despite overwhelming evidence isn't always
>> >But he was not born in Kenya.
>>
>>
>> Can you prove that?
>>
>> Vote for Romney. Repeal the nightmares.
>
>It has been proven, only the terminally stupid believe otherwise.
related to intelligence. And it isn't limited to right wing
conservatives either. But it is very popular there.
When people want to believe something hard enough, they can convince
themselves. And smart people are actually better at that than dumb
people.
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