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Oct 29, 2009, 1:24:40 AM10/29/09
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"The Hammer" <GaGolf...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> It's been a few days, thought I would check out the latest here.
>
> Frankly, I don't care what anyone posts here. How utterly stupid if
> anyone even worries about this for one second. Some of you are in some
> serious need of a life.
>
> Truth is. golf is boring as hell.

Playing golf with you is anything but boring. Looking left....looking
right....


I love playing it, could not care
> less about watching it for more than a few minutes or discussing it
> for a few minutes. If I really have this pressing need to discuss
> golf, I will do it at my country club with real people who will
> listen respectfully and respond respectfully. If you are truly a
> golfer and indulge in the game on a regular basis, you certainly don't
> need to talk with a bunch of people who are basically meaningless in
> some stupid virtual usenet community.
>
> Golf is in the decline.

It's what tennis was in the 80's.

Unless Tiger plays, viewership goes way
> down. The LPGA has fewer events than ever for 2010. National rounds
> played is way down, visits to golf resorts is way down, purchases of
> golf equipment is way down, and nearly every public and private course
> where I live is either going through hard times or fixing to close.
> You can go to nearly any golf course on a weekend now and walk on and
> play, because this sport is in decline.

Good for the hard core. Even my rounds are at an all time low.

> Golf is not on the minds of many people, it is the economy and bread
> and butter issues. When I hang out with my friends at my club at the
> 19th hole and enjoy a few rounds of food or drink, we are not
> discussing golf equipment , the Tour, or the newest swing theory, we
> are talking about jobs, the stock market, politics, etc. Because this
> is what is on our minds right now, golf discussion is boring and
> trivial compared to these issues. And we are all frustrated,
> regardless of whether we are liberal or conservative, so it is
> sometimes good just to discuss these issues, it is cathartic in a way.

It is cathartic....and at times, intelligent in here. It's been interesting
to hear other perspectives, especially the left.

> So, keep on discussing as you all see fit. Golf or not, who cares.
> Golf is what ties all together here, treat this as the 19th hole. And
> if RSG falls short of being a great golf forum, who cares. I sure
> don't, if this place disappears tommorow I won't lose sleep over it.
> If any of you do, I would say you are sick and need a life. There are
> plenty of places I can go to if I really need to discuss golf. This
> is not one of them.

Bingo.

> Too Damn Funny. All these self proclaimed net police out there.
> Probably no bodies in real life, here they think they are somebody.
> Yea, too damn funny. Up yours losers! Get a life! I say you'all
> continue to discuss what you want to discuss when you want to discuss
> it. If some don't like that, ain't that too bad. BOO HOO HOO!


Hor...@net.net

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Oct 31, 2009, 6:32:09 AM10/31/09
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:09:20 -0700 (PDT), The Hammer
<GaGolf...@yahoo.com> wrote this crap:


>Truth is. golf is boring as hell. I love playing it, could not care


>less about watching it for more than a few minutes or discussing it
>for a few minutes. If I really have this pressing need to discuss
>golf, I will do it at my country club with real people who will
>listen respectfully and respond respectfully. If you are truly a
>golfer and indulge in the game on a regular basis, you certainly don't
>need to talk with a bunch of people who are basically meaningless in
>some stupid virtual usenet community.

So why are you here?

>Golf is in the decline. Unless Tiger plays, viewership goes way


>down. The LPGA has fewer events than ever for 2010. National rounds
>played is way down, visits to golf resorts is way down, purchases of
>golf equipment is way down, and nearly every public and private course
>where I live is either going through hard times or fixing to close.
>You can go to nearly any golf course on a weekend now and walk on and
>play, because this sport is in decline.

Total bullshit. Really really huge bullshit. At my favorite course,
you can't get on on the weekends unless you have reserved a tee time a
week in advance. I can't even get on on Fridays, and even Thursdays
are questionable. Hard times my ass, they are doing a major
remodeling this winter and increasing the parking area.


Vote for Palin-Ahhhnold in 2012.


Hor...@Horvath.net

My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
ultimate power in the universe."

Dinosaur_Sr

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Oct 31, 2009, 10:09:59 AM10/31/09
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On Oct 28, 7:09 pm, The Hammer <GaGolfer2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It's been a few days, thought I would check out the latest here.
>
> Frankly, I  don't care what anyone posts here.  How utterly stupid if
> anyone even worries about this for one second. Some of you are in some
> serious need of a life.
>
> Truth is. golf is boring as hell.  I love playing it, could not care
> less about watching it for more than a few minutes or discussing it
> for a few minutes.  If I really have this pressing need to discuss
> golf, I will do it at my country club with  real people who will
> listen respectfully and respond respectfully.  If you are truly a
> golfer and indulge in the game on a regular basis, you certainly don't
> need to talk with a bunch of people who are basically meaningless in
> some stupid virtual usenet community.
>
> Golf is in the decline.  Unless Tiger plays, viewership goes way
> down.  The LPGA has fewer events than ever for 2010.  National rounds
> played is way down, visits to golf resorts is way down, purchases of
> golf equipment is way down, and nearly every public and private course
> where I live is either going through hard times or fixing to close.
> You can go to nearly any golf course on a weekend now and walk on and
> play, because this sport is in decline.
>
> Golf is not on the minds of many people,  it is the economy and bread
> and butter issues.  When I hang out with my friends at my club at the
> 19th hole and enjoy a few rounds of food or drink, we are not
> discussing golf equipment , the Tour, or the newest swing theory, we
> are talking about jobs, the stock market, politics, etc.  Because this
> is what is on our minds right now, golf discussion is boring and
> trivial compared to these issues.  And we are all frustrated,
> regardless of whether we are liberal or conservative, so it is
> sometimes good just to discuss these issues, it is cathartic in a way.
>
> So, keep on discussing as you all see fit.  Golf or not, who cares.
> Golf is what ties all together here, treat this as the 19th hole.  And
> if RSG falls short of being a great golf forum, who cares.  I sure
> don't, if this place disappears tommorow I won't lose sleep over it.
> If any of you do, I would say you are sick and need a life.  There are
> plenty of places I can go to if I really need to discuss golf.  This
> is not one of them.
>
> Too Damn Funny.  All these self proclaimed net police out there.
> Probably  no bodies in real life, here they think they are somebody.
> Yea, too damn funny.   Up yours losers!   Get a life!   I say you'all
> continue to  discuss what you want to discuss when you want to discuss
> it.   If some don't like that,  ain't that too bad.  BOO HOO HOO!

I enjoy golf, but when my real life gets more active, it's hard to
find the time for golf when you *HAVE* to play 6 hour rounds...and
that's not even counting driving to the course!

Golf is becoming more and more of a scam these days as well; golf
equipment scams, golf instruction scams...and it's like all golf
equipment is a scam, as is all golf instruction. How many times can
you get a person to pay $50 minimum for a 30 minute lesson and have it
do you no good? How many times are you willing to fork out hundreds of
dollars for equipment that does nothing to improve your game? Of
course you have to be dumb to believe the hype in the first place, but
even suckers get it eventually? How about paying $200++ for a round of
golf? Doesn't it feel, at some point, silly to be standing there on a
golf course realizing you are wasting hundreds of dollars for a round
of golf? You can get breathtaking ocean views and beautiful rolling
hills, dunes, whatever...for free...I suppose it's worth the hundreds
of dollars to eat an overpriced sandwich in a multi million dollar
clubhouse...of course you can eat sandwiches in much finer buildings
for free too, and the sandwich won't be overpriced!

Of course, all sports are going this way. A billion dollar stadium for
the Dallas Cowboys? And people are supposed to fork over tens of
thousands of dollars for the privilege of being able to buy a ticket?
I'm amazed that anyone, no matter how rich, would even consider such a
thing? Of course I'm from the generation that thinks the best football
is played in a basic outdoor kinda stadium with a grass field and what
you see in the NFL is more of a live action video game than anything
else.

Nonetheless, the spirit that drives football also drives golf, and I
suspect most traditional golfers, that have mostly given up the game,
have a hard time with that ethic. The ball doesn't care about the
view, nor do the clubs. An ordinary, reasonably maintained course is
good enough for me, and no view, or landscaping masterpiece is
anywhere near as rewarding as making an eagle, or making a really
tough par save in a legitimate match...and you can't buy that!

Hor...@net.net

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Oct 31, 2009, 10:50:00 AM10/31/09
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:09:59 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur_Sr
<frostb...@att.net> wrote this crap:


>
>I enjoy golf, but when my real life gets more active, it's hard to
>find the time for golf when you *HAVE* to play 6 hour rounds...and
>that's not even counting driving to the course!

6 hour rounds? Are you that slow, or that bad? You must spend three
hours looking for your ball in the out of bounds area.

I just did nine holes this morning and it took me just over an hour.


>hills, dunes, whatever...for free...I suppose it's worth the hundreds
>of dollars to eat an overpriced sandwich in a multi million dollar
>clubhouse...of course you can eat sandwiches in much finer buildings
>for free too, and the sandwich won't be overpriced!

I pack my own sandwiches in zip lock bags, and I bring my own beer.
And I re-use the zip lock bags.


>Of course, all sports are going this way. A billion dollar stadium for
>the Dallas Cowboys? And people are supposed to fork over tens of
>thousands of dollars for the privilege of being able to buy a ticket?
>I'm amazed that anyone, no matter how rich, would even consider such a
>thing? Of course I'm from the generation that thinks the best football
>is played in a basic outdoor kinda stadium with a grass field and what
>you see in the NFL is more of a live action video game than anything
>else.
>
>Nonetheless, the spirit that drives football also drives golf, and I
>suspect most traditional golfers, that have mostly given up the game,
>have a hard time with that ethic. The ball doesn't care about the
>view, nor do the clubs. An ordinary, reasonably maintained course is
>good enough for me, and no view, or landscaping masterpiece is
>anywhere near as rewarding as making an eagle, or making a really
>tough par save in a legitimate match...and you can't buy that!

You sound like a whiner to me. Too bad you can't see me, I'm playing
a tiny violin just for you. And I'm using a putter for the bow.


Vote for Palin-Ahnold in 2012, dumbass.

Moderate

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Oct 31, 2009, 12:07:02 PM10/31/09
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"Dinosaur_Sr" <frostb...@att.net> wrote in message
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I enjoy golf, but when my real life gets more active, it's hard to
find the time for golf when you *HAVE* to play 6 hour rounds...and
that's not even counting driving to the course!

*********************************************************

You need to learn how to manage your time a little better. Obama is
President of the United States, but he has time to play golf. He has played
24 rounds of golf since the election.

Can anybody imagine that? The President of the United States has more time
to play golf than the average citizen. He isn't doing anything, besides
making speeches and golfing.


Carbon

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Oct 31, 2009, 7:19:22 PM10/31/09
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:07:02 -0500, Moderate wrote:

> You need to learn how to manage your time a little better. Obama is
> President of the United States, but he has time to play golf. He has
> played 24 rounds of golf since the election.
>
> Can anybody imagine that? The President of the United States has more
> time to play golf than the average citizen. He isn't doing anything,
> besides making speeches and golfing.

Be sure to let us know when Obama's total vacation days catches up to
the all-time leader, George W Bush.

Dinosaur_Sr

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Nov 1, 2009, 12:40:41 PM11/1/09
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Neither can match FDR!

Moderate

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"Carbon" <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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Obama has been on vacation since he was elected. What has he done?

I don't have time too play a round of golf every ten days. No problem for
Obama.


bkn...@conramp.net

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Nov 2, 2009, 12:06:27 PM11/2/09
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:39:05 -0600, "Moderate" <no_spam_@no_mail.com>
wrote:

Use some of Innovations Industries time that you eat up posting to
RSG.

BK

Dinosaur_Sr

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Nov 2, 2009, 2:30:08 PM11/2/09
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On Oct 31, 8:50 am, Horv...@net.net wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:09:59 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur_Sr
> <frostback2...@att.net> wrote this crap:

>
>
>
> >I enjoy golf, but when my real life gets more active, it's hard to
> >find the time for golf when you *HAVE* to play 6 hour rounds...and
> >that's not even counting driving to the course!
>
> 6 hour rounds?  Are you that slow, or that bad?  You must spend three
> hours looking for your ball in the out of bounds area.
>
> I just did nine holes this morning and it took me just over an hour.
>

You just said your course is so packed you have to reserve times in
advance...but you can play 9 in an hour...on a packed course. FWIW, I
don't believe you. Also FWIW, I play nine in an hour or less a
lot...because the course is empty.

Hor...@net.net

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Nov 2, 2009, 6:06:23 PM11/2/09
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:39:05 -0600, "Moderate" <no_spam_@no_mail.com>
wrote this crap:

>Obama has been on vacation since he was elected. What has he done?

He was awarded the Nobel Piss Prize.

>I don't have time too play a round of golf every ten days. No problem for
>Obama.

I was out three times this weekend. I'll be out tomorrow. (I decided
to work today.)

Vote for Palin-Ahhnold in 2012.

Hor...@net.net

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Nov 2, 2009, 6:22:53 PM11/2/09
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:30:08 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur_Sr
<frostb...@att.net> wrote this crap:

>> 6 hour rounds? �Are you that slow, or that bad? �You must spend three


>> hours looking for your ball in the out of bounds area.
>>
>> I just did nine holes this morning and it took me just over an hour.
>>
>
>You just said your course is so packed you have to reserve times in
>advance...but you can play 9 in an hour...on a packed course. FWIW, I
>don't believe you. Also FWIW, I play nine in an hour or less a
>lot...because the course is empty.

Check what I said. I said that my favorite course is always packed,
dumbass. I played on a course that was closed. I played nine holes
in just over an hour, and I walked it.

You said you played a round in six hours, and now you say you can do
nine holes in under an hour. Which is it?


Vote for Palin-Ahhhnold in 2012.

Dinosaur_Sr

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Nov 2, 2009, 8:04:08 PM11/2/09
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On Nov 2, 5:22 pm, Horv...@net.net wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:30:08 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur_Sr
> <frostback2...@att.net> wrote this crap:

>
> >> 6 hour rounds?  Are you that slow, or that bad?  You must spend three
> >> hours looking for your ball in the out of bounds area.
>
> >> I just did nine holes this morning and it took me just over an hour.
>
> >You just said your course is so packed you have to reserve times in
> >advance...but you can play 9 in an hour...on a packed course. FWIW, I
> >don't believe you. Also FWIW, I play nine in an hour or less a
> >lot...because the course is empty.
>
> Check what I said.  I said that my favorite course is always packed,
> dumbass.  I played on a course that was closed.  I played nine holes
> in just over an hour, and I walked it.
>
> You said you played a round in six hours, and now you say you can do
> nine holes in under an hour.  Which is it?
>
> Vote for Palin-Ahhhnold in 2012.
>
>         Horv...@Horvath.net

>
> My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
> ultimate power in the universe."

Both. I play in some tournament or with the mens clubs and it's 6
hours. I play by myself, walking, on an empty course, and it's 45
minutes to maybe 75 minutes.

Howard Brazee

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Nov 2, 2009, 8:58:19 PM11/2/09
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:04:08 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur_Sr
<frostb...@att.net> wrote:

>Both. I play in some tournament or with the mens clubs and it's 6
>hours. I play by myself, walking, on an empty course, and it's 45
>minutes to maybe 75 minutes.

Especially when the Men's club has shotgun starts.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

Howard Brazee

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Nov 2, 2009, 9:02:21 PM11/2/09
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:39:05 -0600, "Moderate" <no_spam_@no_mail.com>
wrote:

>Obama has been on vacation since he was elected. What has he done?

Pretty much what Bush did.

>I don't have time too play a round of golf every ten days. No problem for
>Obama.

He doesn't have to wait behind slow golfers. If you (or I) don't
have a 2-3 hours every 10 days, it's because there are other things
we'd rather do. I for one think all presidents should take the
time to refresh their minds and bodies. Their job is too important
to not take mental health breaks.

William Clark

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Nov 2, 2009, 9:19:48 PM11/2/09
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In article <m5que5drg2tmi3bd5...@4ax.com>,
Hor...@net.net wrote:

Let's get this right. Nine holes on an average course is probably around
3,000 plus yards, which would take a brisk walker 30 minutes just to
walk. Add in stopping to hit a golf ball (probably 100 times in your
case), and, voila, your are full of it.

As per usual.

Hor...@net.net

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Nov 2, 2009, 8:53:17 PM11/2/09
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:19:48 -0500, William Clark
<wcl...@colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote this crap:

>> >>
>> >> I just did nine holes this morning and it took me just over an hour.
>> >>
>> >
>> >You just said your course is so packed you have to reserve times in
>> >advance...but you can play 9 in an hour...on a packed course. FWIW, I
>> >don't believe you. Also FWIW, I play nine in an hour or less a
>> >lot...because the course is empty.
>>
>> Check what I said. I said that my favorite course is always packed,
>> dumbass. I played on a course that was closed. I played nine holes
>> in just over an hour, and I walked it.
>>
>> You said you played a round in six hours, and now you say you can do
>> nine holes in under an hour. Which is it?
>>
>>

>Let's get this right. Nine holes on an average course is probably around
>3,000 plus yards, which would take a brisk walker 30 minutes just to
>walk. Add in stopping to hit a golf ball (probably 100 times in your
>case), and, voila, your are full of it.

Let's do the math, Jack. An average course is about 3000 yards,
that's 1.7 miles. An average walker does 5 mph, which means he can
walk it in 34 minutes. I said that I did it, "in over an hour." In
which it was 75 minutes. Seeing that I parred half of the holes, and
birdied number eight, (leadership, Jack, leadership,) my time is well
within human parameters, even while taking time to de-beer.


And vote for Palin-Ahhnold in 2012.

BAR

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Nov 3, 2009, 6:40:43 AM11/3/09
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In article <wclark2-9B209C...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
state.edu>, wcl...@colnospamumbus.rr.com says...

>
> In article <m5que5drg2tmi3bd5...@4ax.com>,
> Hor...@net.net wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:30:08 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur_Sr
> > <frostb...@att.net> wrote this crap:
> >
> > >> 6 hour rounds? ᅵAre you that slow, or that bad? ᅵYou must spend three

> > >> hours looking for your ball in the out of bounds area.
> > >>
> > >> I just did nine holes this morning and it took me just over an hour.
> > >>
> > >
> > >You just said your course is so packed you have to reserve times in
> > >advance...but you can play 9 in an hour...on a packed course. FWIW, I
> > >don't believe you. Also FWIW, I play nine in an hour or less a
> > >lot...because the course is empty.
> >
> > Check what I said. I said that my favorite course is always packed,
> > dumbass. I played on a course that was closed. I played nine holes
> > in just over an hour, and I walked it.
> >
> > You said you played a round in six hours, and now you say you can do
> > nine holes in under an hour. Which is it?
> >
> >
> > Vote for Palin-Ahhhnold in 2012.
> >
> >
> > Hor...@Horvath.net
> >
> > My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
> > ultimate power in the universe."
>
> Let's get this right. Nine holes on an average course is probably around
> 3,000 plus yards, which would take a brisk walker 30 minutes just to
> walk. Add in stopping to hit a golf ball (probably 100 times in your
> case), and, voila, your are full of it.
>
> As per usual.

He wasn't posting to USENET after each hole, so it is possible.


Dinosaur_Sr

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Nov 3, 2009, 10:06:34 AM11/3/09
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On Nov 2, 7:53 pm, Horv...@net.net wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:19:48 -0500, William Clark
> <wcla...@colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote this crap:
>         Horv...@Horvath.net

>
> My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
> ultimate power in the universe."

Clark's response is a worn out troll here. He can't walk up a flight
of stairs, let alone a golf course, where he would never be found
without the little chimpmobile.

Moderate

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Nov 3, 2009, 10:13:25 AM11/3/09
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<Hor...@net.net> wrote in message
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Five miles an hour is not an average pace. That is closer to a jog.


Moderate

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"Howard Brazee" <how...@brazee.net> wrote in message
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It took him over six hours to play a round in Hawaii.


William Clark

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Nov 3, 2009, 10:42:27 AM11/3/09
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In article <4af04898$0$5329$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
"Moderate" <no_spam_@no_mail.com> wrote:

Amen - three miles an hour is brisk walking pace. He can't do math,
either. I suppose that is "leadership"?

William Clark

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Nov 3, 2009, 10:43:51 AM11/3/09
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In article
<7c205d81-e59c-4832...@g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Dinosaur_Sr <frostb...@att.net> wrote:

I would respond, but it's time for me to head to the gym. 6-mile run
today - how about you? And FYI, I HATE courses where you are not allowed
to walk.

Dinosaur_Sr

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On Nov 3, 9:43 am, William Clark <cl...@nospam.matsceng.ohio-
state.edu> wrote:
> In article
> <7c205d81-e59c-4832-a243-86ac059a0...@g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,

I sit corrected. I have some students who I need to work with, an
experiment to work on and some lectures for next semester. I suppose I
could go to the gym at some point later in the day, but a brisk walk
around the subdivision later in the day works for me.

William Clark

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Nov 3, 2009, 1:56:49 PM11/3/09
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In article
<edbb58a3-2984-4491...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
Dinosaur_Sr <frostb...@att.net> wrote:

That's OK, I am back from the gym, and envigorated for the rest of the
day. I make up the time by getting here at 7:30, leaving at 6:30, and
probably working for one to three hours at home tonight. I couldn't do
that many hours if I did not exercise.

Dinosaur_Sr

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Nov 3, 2009, 2:18:59 PM11/3/09
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On Nov 3, 12:56 pm, William Clark <cl...@nospam.matsceng.ohio-
state.edu> wrote:
> In article
> <edbb58a3-2984-4491-8677-059a73d04...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> that many hours if I did not exercise.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I understand...it's the English way of doing things...into the office
by 1PM...

Hor...@net.net

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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:13:25 -0600, "Moderate" <no_spam_@no_mail.com>
wrote this crap:

>>


>> Let's do the math, Jack. An average course is about 3000 yards,
>> that's 1.7 miles. An average walker does 5 mph, which means he can
>> walk it in 34 minutes. I said that I did it, "in over an hour." In
>> which it was 75 minutes. Seeing that I parred half of the holes, and
>> birdied number eight, (leadership, Jack, leadership,) my time is well
>> within human parameters, even while taking time to de-beer.
>
>Five miles an hour is not an average pace. That is closer to a jog.

I did an internet search, but my cut-and-paste was bad. The average
female walks at 3mph, an average male at 4mph. That's average,
someone in good shape, like me, is a fair bit faster. In the military
we regularly did 5mph with full packs. That's leadership.


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BAR

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Nov 3, 2009, 6:35:10 PM11/3/09
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In article <clark-D4E0B4....@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
state.edu>, cl...@nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says...

> That's OK, I am back from the gym, and envigorated for the rest of the
> day. I make up the time by getting here at 7:30, leaving at 6:30, and
> probably working for one to three hours at home tonight. I couldn't do
> that many hours if I did not exercise.

It sounds like you have poor time manangment skills. Maybe you should
stop posting to USENET all day long then you wouldn't have to work late
into the night.

Hor...@net.net

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Nov 3, 2009, 9:44:37 PM11/3/09
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:35:10 -0500, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote this
crap:

Or you could do what I do. Don't work.


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Hor...@Horvath.net

My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the

Moderate

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<Hor...@net.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:13:25 -0600, "Moderate" <no_spam_@no_mail.com>
> wrote this crap:
>
>>>
>>> Let's do the math, Jack. An average course is about 3000 yards,
>>> that's 1.7 miles. An average walker does 5 mph, which means he can
>>> walk it in 34 minutes. I said that I did it, "in over an hour." In
>>> which it was 75 minutes. Seeing that I parred half of the holes, and
>>> birdied number eight, (leadership, Jack, leadership,) my time is well
>>> within human parameters, even while taking time to de-beer.
>>
>>Five miles an hour is not an average pace. That is closer to a jog.
>
> I did an internet search, but my cut-and-paste was bad. The average
> female walks at 3mph, an average male at 4mph. That's average,
> someone in good shape, like me, is a fair bit faster. In the military
> we regularly did 5mph with full packs. That's leadership.

Why would you have to cut and paste to describe your own experience?

That's not leadership.


Miss Anne Thrope

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Nov 4, 2009, 8:24:52 AM11/4/09
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"I will do it at my country club with real people who will listen
respectfully..."

Yeah, good luck with getting people to listen to you respectfully or at
all, AND good luck finding real people at a cuntry club.

William Clark

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Nov 4, 2009, 10:04:30 AM11/4/09
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In article <MPG.255a883e9...@news.giganews.com>,
BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:

Ah, but you see, I ENJOY my work. So a little reading and writing in the
evening is relaxing.

Delilah Jones

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Nov 4, 2009, 3:21:51 PM11/4/09
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On Nov 3 2009 2:53 PM, Horvath wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:13:25 -0600, "Moderate" <no_spam_@no_mail.com>
> wrote this crap:
>
> >>
> >> Let's do the math, Jack. An average course is about 3000 yards,
> >> that's 1.7 miles. An average walker does 5 mph, which means he can
> >> walk it in 34 minutes. I said that I did it, "in over an hour." In
> >> which it was 75 minutes. Seeing that I parred half of the holes, and
> >> birdied number eight, (leadership, Jack, leadership,) my time is well
> >> within human parameters, even while taking time to de-beer.
> >
> >Five miles an hour is not an average pace. That is closer to a jog.
>
> I did an internet search, but my cut-and-paste was bad. The average
> female walks at 3mph, an average male at 4mph. That's average,
> someone in good shape, like me, is a fair bit faster. In the military
> we regularly did 5mph with full packs. That's leadership.
>

Not really correct. Guys walk ( stroll) at about 3.5 mph. 4 is quite
brisk. 4.5 is very brisk.
After 4.5 MPH you reach a crossover where walking is not very efficient.
It is quite uncomfortable and it is much more efficient to run. Notice how
those racewalkers look so silly. The body has a more efficient way, which
is to run. So, 5mph walking gait is actually a bit uncomfortable and you
certainly would not be doing it with clubs in tow.

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Alan Baker

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Nov 7, 2009, 3:33:50 PM11/7/09
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In article <bc91f5h2k5ad0ovqp...@4ax.com>,
Hor...@net.net wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:13:25 -0600, "Moderate" <no_spam_@no_mail.com>
> wrote this crap:
>
> >>
> >> Let's do the math, Jack. An average course is about 3000 yards,
> >> that's 1.7 miles. An average walker does 5 mph, which means he can
> >> walk it in 34 minutes. I said that I did it, "in over an hour." In
> >> which it was 75 minutes. Seeing that I parred half of the holes, and
> >> birdied number eight, (leadership, Jack, leadership,) my time is well
> >> within human parameters, even while taking time to de-beer.
> >
> >Five miles an hour is not an average pace. That is closer to a jog.
>
> I did an internet search, but my cut-and-paste was bad. The average
> female walks at 3mph, an average male at 4mph. That's average,
> someone in good shape, like me, is a fair bit faster. In the military
> we regularly did 5mph with full packs. That's leadership.

Sorry, but you're full of it.

Forced march speeds with full back are done at about 4mph.

In regular marches in the Canadian Forces, we were expect to cover 10
miles in 3 hours. Allowing for short rests that works out to about
3.5mph.

Hell, the median *running* speed expected in the US Marines is only
6.8mph.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>

BAR

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Nov 7, 2009, 7:06:55 PM11/7/09
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In article <alangbaker-BA649...@news.shawcable.com>,
alang...@telus.net says...

> Sorry, but you're full of it.
>
> Forced march speeds with full back are done at about 4mph.
>
> In regular marches in the Canadian Forces, we were expect to cover 10
> miles in 3 hours. Allowing for short rests that works out to about
> 3.5mph.
>
> Hell, the median *running* speed expected in the US Marines is only
> 6.8mph.
>

Running 6.8mph is the USMC is considered failure for those up to about
35 years old.

Hor...@net.net

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Nov 7, 2009, 7:48:28 PM11/7/09
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:33:50 -0800, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
wrote this crap:

>> I did an internet search, but my cut-and-paste was bad. The average
>> female walks at 3mph, an average male at 4mph. That's average,
>> someone in good shape, like me, is a fair bit faster. In the military
>> we regularly did 5mph with full packs. That's leadership.
>
>Sorry, but you're full of it.
>
>Forced march speeds with full back are done at about 4mph.
>
>In regular marches in the Canadian Forces, we were expect to cover 10
>miles in 3 hours. Allowing for short rests that works out to about
>3.5mph.

I thought you Canucks did it in kilometers. Besides, that's all you
can get when marching with ice skates on.


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Hor...@net.net

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Nov 7, 2009, 8:03:42 PM11/7/09
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:06:55 -0500, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote this
crap:

>>

>> Hell, the median *running* speed expected in the US Marines is only
>> 6.8mph.
>>
>
>Running 6.8mph is the USMC is considered failure for those up to about
>35 years old.

That seems reasonable. Back in the days when I was a professional
fashion model, as part of my daily fitness regime, I would run on a
jogging course in the park that was three miles long. I usually
finished around 20 minutes. that comes out to about nine mph, (do the
math.)

Alan Baker

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Nov 7, 2009, 9:58:00 PM11/7/09
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In article <MPG.255fd5aa5...@news.giganews.com>,
BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:

You score a 50 out of 100 on the run for 6.8mph.

BAR

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Nov 8, 2009, 12:31:48 AM11/8/09
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In article <alangbaker-9890C...@news.shawcable.com>,
alang...@telus.net says...

>
> In article <MPG.255fd5aa5...@news.giganews.com>,
> BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <alangbaker-BA649...@news.shawcable.com>,
> > alang...@telus.net says...
> > > Sorry, but you're full of it.
> > >
> > > Forced march speeds with full back are done at about 4mph.
> > >
> > > In regular marches in the Canadian Forces, we were expect to cover 10
> > > miles in 3 hours. Allowing for short rests that works out to about
> > > 3.5mph.
> > >
> > > Hell, the median *running* speed expected in the US Marines is only
> > > 6.8mph.
> > >
> >
> > Running 6.8mph is the USMC is considered failure for those up to about
> > 35 years old.
>
> You score a 50 out of 100 on the run for 6.8mph.

If you don't make 1st class in the PFT your cutting score will suck and
you won't get promoted.

Rog

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:12:30 PM11/8/09
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Alan Baker wrote:
> In article <bc91f5h2k5ad0ovqp...@4ax.com>,
<snip>

>
> In regular marches in the Canadian Forces, we were expect to cover 10
> miles in 3 hours. Allowing for short rests that works out to about
> 3.5mph.
>
> Hell, the median *running* speed expected in the US Marines is only
> 6.8mph.
>
Our yearly test for under 35s was 10 miles march (pack and weapon) then
carry someone 100yds and put x amount of rounds into a target.
Allotted time 2hrs.
Now I am liable to have aching legs carrying a golf bag 3.5 miles in
4hrs. :0(
Rog

Hor...@net.net

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:00:45 PM11/8/09
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:12:30 +0000, Rog <r...@pynguins.com> wrote this
crap:

>>
>Our yearly test for under 35s was 10 miles march (pack and weapon) then
>carry someone 100yds and put x amount of rounds into a target.
>Allotted time 2hrs.
>Now I am liable to have aching legs carrying a golf bag 3.5 miles in
>4hrs. :0(
>Rog


Wuss.

When I was a fashion model, my daily workout was to ride my bike five
miles to the park, do 100 pushups and 100 sit ups then run three miles
then ride my bike home, and I did that in under an hour.

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Moderate

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Nov 9, 2009, 6:48:10 AM11/9/09
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"BAR" <sc...@you.com> wrote in message
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My fastest PFT time was 19:50. I received meritorious promotions to
Corporal and Sergeant.

That's leadership.


Alan Baker

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Nov 9, 2009, 10:23:58 AM11/9/09
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In article <MPG.256021cf7...@news.giganews.com>,
BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:

> In article <alangbaker-9890C...@news.shawcable.com>,
> alang...@telus.net says...
> >
> > In article <MPG.255fd5aa5...@news.giganews.com>,
> > BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <alangbaker-BA649...@news.shawcable.com>,
> > > alang...@telus.net says...
> > > > Sorry, but you're full of it.
> > > >
> > > > Forced march speeds with full back are done at about 4mph.
> > > >
> > > > In regular marches in the Canadian Forces, we were expect to cover 10
> > > > miles in 3 hours. Allowing for short rests that works out to about
> > > > 3.5mph.
> > > >
> > > > Hell, the median *running* speed expected in the US Marines is only
> > > > 6.8mph.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Running 6.8mph is the USMC is considered failure for those up to about
> > > 35 years old.
> >
> > You score a 50 out of 100 on the run for 6.8mph.
>
> If you don't make 1st class in the PFT your cutting score will suck and
> you won't get promoted.

Which has nothing to do with anything, of course.

BAR

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Nov 14, 2009, 1:14:36 PM11/14/09
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In article <alangbaker-004BF...@news.shawcable.com>,
alang...@telus.net says...
>
> In article <MPG.256021cf7...@news.giganews.com>,
> BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <alangbaker-9890C...@news.shawcable.com>,
> > alang...@telus.net says...
> > >
> > > In article <MPG.255fd5aa5...@news.giganews.com>,
> > > BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <alangbaker-BA649...@news.shawcable.com>,
> > > > alang...@telus.net says...
> > > > > Sorry, but you're full of it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Forced march speeds with full back are done at about 4mph.
> > > > >
> > > > > In regular marches in the Canadian Forces, we were expect to cover 10
> > > > > miles in 3 hours. Allowing for short rests that works out to about
> > > > > 3.5mph.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hell, the median *running* speed expected in the US Marines is only
> > > > > 6.8mph.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Running 6.8mph is the USMC is considered failure for those up to about
> > > > 35 years old.
> > >
> > > You score a 50 out of 100 on the run for 6.8mph.
> >
> > If you don't make 1st class in the PFT your cutting score will suck and
> > you won't get promoted.
>
> Which has nothing to do with anything, of course.

You brought up the subject. I just told you that 6.8 MPH was marginal as
far as physical fitness standards in the USMC. Physical fitness is
extremely important in the USMC.

Every Marine is a basic riflemen.

Every Marine officer is a platoon commander. If you fly an F/A-18 and
you get shot down you become an infantry officer.

Everything is done in support of the grunt on the ground.

Alan Baker

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Nov 14, 2009, 4:06:18 PM11/14/09
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In article <MPG.2568bd95...@news.giganews.com>,
BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:

It still has nothing to do with the discussion.

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