IRS Scandal Started at the Top

[KenPitts]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324767004578487332636180800?mg=reno64-wsj.html?dsk=y

[BobM]

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On Saturday, May 18, 2013 3:27:03 PM UTC-7, KenPitts wrote:
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324767004578487332636180800?mg=reno64-wsj.html?dsk=y

[bkn...@conramp.net]

Rupert and Fox should be proud. All innuendo and supposition with the
attendant effort of an ultra-right. Nothing there.

I'm not surprised though. Remember this writer's treatise on Sarah
Palin? Looking through a rose colored lens there.

[KenPitts]

I'd rather have one Sarah Palin after another as president than on day of what we have now. This guy is a disaster and anyone who doesn't see it is not paying attention.

Ken

[BobM]

http://tinyurl.com/bx89fjy

[la...@pivotforpower.com]

On Saturday, May 18, 2013 3:27:03 PM UTC-7, KenPitts wrote:
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324767004578487332636180800?mg=reno64-wsj.html?dsk=y

Of course it did. This was the Chicago THUG Obama campaign. Axelrod and his crowd would do ANYTHING to win. in the 2008 primary they ruined Hillary and "pulled the race card" to win, according to Bill Clinton. Dirty tricks are also how before that Obama won the Illinois State Senate race and the US Senate races. He was behind a solid Republican candidate and then these thugs found enough dirt on their opponent to ruin him just before the election. They got a crooked judge to allow them to open sealed divorce court records!

But now it will come home to roost. People, even the mainstream media, are starting to understand who this scumbag is. And now that Obama has had ample opportunity and demonstrated that he is not capable of governing, they will turn on him.

Larry

Larry

[Alan Baker]

In article <faa8cae9-0438-4efe...@googlegroups.com>,

And that is why you're deranged.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

[Moderate]

KenPitts <ken....@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324767004578487332636180800?mg=reno64-wsj.html?dsk=y
>

Obama is a divider, not a uniter.

The IRS simply practiced what he preached.
--

[KenPitts]

Using the tax code against Al Capone is one thing. Using it against the TEA Party and other conservative groups is completely something else.

Ken

[Horva...@net.net]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 07:00:42 -0700 (PDT), KenPitts
<ken....@gmail.com> wrote this crap:

>>
>> Obama is a divider, not a uniter.
>>
>>
>>
>> The IRS simply practiced what he preached.
>>
>> --
>
>Using the tax code against Al Capone is one thing.
> Using it against the TEA Party and other conservative
> groups is completely something else.
>
>Ken

This should be a wake up call to those who want background checks for
gun purchases. (Which is against the 2nd and 4th amendments.)
Background checks will mean medical records checks. And the medical
records will be handled by the IRS. Anybody the IRS doesn't like will
be refused a gun purchase.

I think the IRS is doing a fine job, (if they're reading this.) I
always pay my taxes on time with a smile. The government deserves
more than I can give. These aren't the droids you're looking for,
move along, move along.


This signature is now the ultimate
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[Lloyd]

In article <0c6b1494-bdf1-488b...@googlegroups.com>,

I agree Ken.

But I would carry it a bit further. Knock off all tax-exempts except
those with 100% of their income going to charitable works. Minus
salaries for paid workers of course.

No political, no job related, no churches though I'd give a church the
benefit of the doubt IF they had a specific walled garden for their
charitable works.

[Don Kirkman]

Not directly on point but some (few) churches recognize that they
benefit from government services and voluntarily contribute to their
local governments.* IMO the original exemption for churches was
probably more based on religious groups providing charitable and
health services directly rather than through taxes than it was because
of the First Amendment.

* It's hard to know how many or how much, since any self-reporting is
probably only within the religious organizations themselves. I
haven't seen a mention for several years now.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net

[John B.]

Not if they're violating it.

[KenPitts]

The problem (surely you see this) is placing the focus on one particular group because of their positions. It is the very definition of the tyranny Obama was saying we should ignore.

Ken

[John B.]

Obama said we should ignore tyranny? When was that?
BTW, Richard Nixon sicced the IRS on liberals, or people
he thought were liberals. In that case, unlike the current
case, the orders came directly from him.

[KenPitts]

I know all about Nixon. Nobody was leading the cheers like me when Nixon took his big fall.

"In commencement remarks to graduates at Ohio State University a number of days ago, President Obama talked about “voices” that the graduates have grown up hearing. “They’ll warn that tyranny is always lurking just around the corner,” he said. “You should reject these voices.”"

http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/article/id/267466/group/Opinion/

It was all over the news. I guess current events don't cause your point of view to vary.

Ken

[la...@pivotforpower.com]

Of course. And now the Republicans in Congress will dig until they find the "smoking guns" that proves that Obama and/or his campaign team ORDERED the IRS to persecute Obama's enemies, i.e. Republicans, TEA Party, Religious Right, etc. etc.

And when they find enough, they will subpoena the guilty and give them an opportunity to either give Obama up or lie under oath. And then prosecute them.

It will be fun to watch.

Larry

[KenPitts]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57585182/evidence-emerges-that-obama-administration-official-knew-of-irs-targeting-during-2012-campaign/

[Howard Brazee]

On Sun, 19 May 2013 07:00:42 -0700 (PDT), KenPitts

<ken....@gmail.com> wrote:

>Using the tax code against Al Capone is one thing. Using it against the TEA Party and other conservative groups is completely something else.

Not if those groups are breaking the law.

What the IRS did wrong was to not using criteria to pick who to
investigate that wasn't biased.

--
Anybody who agrees with one side all of the time or disagrees with the
other side all of the time is equally guilty of letting others do
their thinking for them.

[Alan Baker]

In article <88cfb48d-1198-4861...@googlegroups.com>,

Like it was going to be "fun to watch" when that Texas sheriff was going
to expose that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii...

...and then Trump was going to do it...

...that kind of fun, Larry?

Have you ever been right about anything you've posted in this group?

Certainly, you've been wrong about every single "essential" of the golf
swing you've pronounced; proven by your abandonment by each of them in
turn.

:-)

[Moderate]

Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> Wrote in message:

> On Sun, 19 May 2013 07:00:42 -0700 (PDT), KenPitts
> <ken....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Using the tax code against Al Capone is one thing. Using it against the TEA Party and other conservative groups is completely something else.
>
> Not if those groups are breaking the law.
>
> What the IRS did wrong was to not using criteria to pick who to
> investigate that wasn't biased.
>

They violated the equal protection clause in the 14th Amendment.

Howard shows his true colors again. Disgusting.
--

[BAR]

In article <192ccc49-44d4-4d31...@googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com
says...

And you know that Obama hasn't given the order to do the same how?

[Howard Brazee]

Which is what I said in different words.

>Howard shows his true colors again. Disgusting.

I should pretend that I disagree with you in this post and I wouldn't
be disgusting?

[jay birdsong]

"Alan Baker" wrote in message
news:alangbaker-BAB0B...@news.shawcable.net...

And the stalking of Larry continues.


What did Larry do to you loser, that makes you so bitter towards him?

And what did you do to earn the nick "Kiddy Diddler? Now run, Alwin,
run for the tall weeds.

[MNMikeW]

What do you expect from an Alinksyite like Obama.

[MNMikeW]

John B. wrote:
> On Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:13:11 PM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 19, 2013 5:31:29 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, May 19, 2013 10:00:42 AM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>> Using the tax code against Al Capone is one thing. Using it against the TEA Party and other conservative groups is completely something else.
>>
>>>
>>
>>>> Ken
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Not if they're violating it.
>>
>>
>>
>> The problem (surely you see this) is placing the focus on one particular group because of their positions. It is the very definition of the tyranny Obama was saying we should ignore.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ken
>
> Obama said we should ignore tyranny? When was that?
> BTW, Richard Nixon sicced the IRS on liberals, or people
> he thought were liberals. In that case, unlike the current
> case, the orders came directly from him.
>

Unlike the current case? That cannot be said as of yet.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

Highly unlikely though. Nixon was a paranoid head case, and no, Obama
isn't.

[MNMikeW]

Howard Brazee wrote:
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 07:00:42 -0700 (PDT), KenPitts
> <ken....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Using the tax code against Al Capone is one thing. Using it against the TEA Party and other conservative groups is completely something else.
>
> Not if those groups are breaking the law.
>
> What the IRS did wrong was to not using criteria to pick who to
> investigate that wasn't biased.
>

They certainly did use a criteria. Any group with Tea Party, patriot,
constitution in the name were selected for scrutiny. Liberal groups
received no such scrutiny.

[MNMikeW]

In your opinion.

[John B.]

Obama was right. He was talking about a paranoid delusion that
currently inflicts people like you.
Tyranny is not lurking just around the corner.
Or around the next corner or the next.....

[John B.]

The same way I know the earth isn't flat.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

I suppose that your opinion is merited because of your extensive
education in psychology. :-)

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Mon, 20 May 2013 08:36:41 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
<john...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:12:39 PM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:21:32 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
>>
>> > On Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:13:11 PM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> > > On Sunday, May 19, 2013 5:31:29 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:

>> > > > On Sunday, May 19, 2013 10:00:42 AM UTC-4, KenPitts wrote:
>>

>>
>> > > > > Using the tax code against Al Capone is one thing. Using it against the TEA Party and other conservative groups is completely something else.
>> > > > > Ken

>> > > The problem (surely you see this) is placing the focus on one particular group because of their positions. It is the very definition of the tyranny Obama was saying we should ignore.
>> > > Ken

>> > Obama said we should ignore tyranny? When was that?
> > BTW, Richard Nixon sicced the IRS on liberals, or people

>> > he thought were liberals. In that case, unlike the current

>> > case, the orders came directly from him.

>> I know all about Nixon. Nobody was leading the cheers like me when Nixon took his big fall.
>>
>>
>>
>> "In commencement remarks to graduates at Ohio State University a number of days ago, President Obama talked about �voices� that the graduates have grown up hearing. �They�ll warn that tyranny is always lurking just around the corner,� he said. �You should reject these voices.�"

>> http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/article/id/267466/group/Opinion/

>> It was all over the news. I guess current events don't cause your point of view to vary.
>> Ken
>
>Obama was right. He was talking about a paranoid delusion that
>currently inflicts people like you.
>Tyranny is not lurking just around the corner.
>Or around the next corner or the next.....

Obama said to REJECT those voices of tyranny and Ken tries to make
that mean ignore them. Rejecting is being aware and turning them down
Ken, that's a far cry from ignoring them.

None so blind.

[BAR]

In article <f8b5cf5d-f785-4f0b...@googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com
says...

Prove that the earth isn't flat!

[MNMikeW]

Obama and Nixon are a lot alike.

[la...@pivotforpower.com]

NOBODY CARES what an unemployed Canadian thinks about golf or AMERICAN politics. AB has absolutely nothing productive to do, so he does this all day and all night, 100 hours a week according to the times of his posts.

But he is ignorant of facts or concepts. So we ignore him.

Larry

[John B.]

Fuck off, Bert.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Mon, 20 May 2013 08:36:41 -0700 (PDT), "John B."

<john...@gmail.com> wrote this crap:

>Obama was right. He was talking about a paranoid delusion that
>currently inflicts people like you.
>Tyranny is not lurking just around the corner.
>Or around the next corner or the next.....

It's already here. Just ask any Tea Party group that applied for a
501 c4.


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[Horva...@net.net]

On Mon, 20 May 2013 12:15:37 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote this
crap:

>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > > Obama said we should ignore tyranny? When was that?
>> >
>> > > BTW, Richard Nixon sicced the IRS on liberals, or people
>> >
>> > > he thought were liberals. In that case, unlike the current
>> >
>> > > case, the orders came directly from him.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > And you know that Obama hasn't given the order to do the same how?
>>
>> The same way I know the earth isn't flat.
>
>Prove that the earth isn't flat!
>

The Earth is flat. I've been to the edge and seen the water falling
off. Go to 43.080N and 79.071W and you will see it with your own
eyes.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

That's just silly.

[Alan Baker]

In article <69f843a5-970d-4a78...@googlegroups.com>,

I do? That's funny, because I thought I just spent the last 4 hours
working on my race car.

:-)

>
> But he is ignorant of facts or concepts. So we ignore him.

LOL

You read EVERY SINGLE WORD ever written about you, Larry.

[jay birdsong]

"Alan Baker" wrote in message
news:alangbaker-BAB0B...@news.shawcable.net...

The creepy little internet stalker can't help himself. His
Masochistic Narcissism rules.

>:-)

oIo

snip dumb cunt sig.

[jay birdsong]

"Alan Baker" wrote in message

news:alangbaker-A4924...@news.datemas.de...

"Race car"!!?? HOOT - you mean broken down, used up, pig in a poke,
POS. LOL.

:-)

>
> But he is ignorant of facts or concepts. So we ignore him.

>LOL

>You read EVERY SINGLE WORD ever written about you, Larry.

So do you, Dick.

[jay birdsong]

"Alan Baker" wrote in message

news:alangbaker-1875F...@news.shawcable.net...

In article <faa8cae9-0438-4efe...@googlegroups.com>,
KenPitts <ken....@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, May 18, 2013 5:58:56 PM UTC-5, bkn...@conramp.net
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 18 May 2013 15:45:00 -0700 (PDT), BobM
> >
> > <defangeda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af162/kenpitts/Picture-06-29-09186.jpg
> >
> > >http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af162/kenpitts/Picture-06-29-09176.jpg
> >
> > >http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af162/kenpitts/Picture-06-29-09173.jpg
> >
> > >.
> >
> > >
> >
> > >On Saturday, May 18, 2013 3:27:03 PM UTC-7, KenPitts wrote:
> >
> > >> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324767004578487332636180800
> > >> ?mg=reno64-wsj.html?dsk=y
> >
> >
> >
> > Rupert and Fox should be proud. All innuendo and supposition with
> > the
> >
> > attendant effort of an ultra-right. Nothing there.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm not surprised though. Remember this writer's treatise on
> > Sarah
> >
> > Palin? Looking through a rose colored lens there.
>
> I'd rather have one Sarah Palin after another as president than on
> day of
> what we have now. This guy is a disaster and anyone who doesn't see
> it is not
> paying attention.
>
> Ken

>And that is why you're deranged.

BWAHAAAHAAAHAAAHARHARHARHARHAR - so says the Dick with masochistic
narcissism. Yer killin us,Loser.

snip dumb cunt sig.

[Alan Baker]

In article <kndqn9$npk$1...@dont-email.me>,

Sorry, but I don't have one of those.

Once I finish wiring the battery in its new location (and wiring in the
new transponder and the recharging harness), I'm installing the seat,
and firing it up!

I'm on track with it for the first time this coming Friday, you see.

[MNMikeW]

Not if you really think about it. They are both quite thin-skinned. They
both have an "enemies" list. They are both hyper-sensitive about
controlling the message. I'm sure there are more similarities.

[BAR]

In article <ea56d5c0-21c2-4d96...@googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com

You can't prove that the Earth isn't flat?

[bkn...@conramp.net]

You're describing almost every politician in America.

[MNMikeW]

Then it is not all that silly now is it?

[KenPitts]

I think I would prefer paranoid to devious.

Ken

[bkn...@conramp.net]

A "lot" is what is silly. Nixon was a brooder with absolutely no
sense of humor. He was a loner and distrusted everyone. There is
very little about RMN that is comparable to any other POTUS that we've
had during my lifetime. Oh, he *was* a crook and proven so. Until
that is the case with Obama this is one idiocy that should be dropped.

[John B.]

If I want to know the truth about something, a tea party group
is the last place I'll go looking for it.

[John B.]

I don't believe Obama has any of those traits. But maybe
you can prove me wrong.

[la...@pivotforpower.com]

Nixon was smart, extremely competent, and a very hard worker. Kennedy has stolen the 1960 election from him by manufacturing votes in Illinois. Everyone knew that but Nixon was reluctant to force a recount. It would have been nasty regardless of the outcome.

His economy was extremely well run. Every government agency was operating efficiently. Nixon opened our relations with China and much else. Every foreign country was aghast that we brought down a great US President for "only that!"

Nixon's crime was in supporting his team even after he learned they had committed a stupid criminal act. If he had thrown them under the buss he would have finished his term. He couldn't do that. Obama will do that. Obama is a complete narcissist.

But one thing can be learned from the Nixon Watergate incident: people in government get a very very strong clue from the top. They don't need to be told that the President wants to win REGARDLESS! (Even though Nixon would have strongly told them NOT TO BREAK INTO THE WATERGATE!) But they didn't ask, they just did it. Like with the IRS now, those in a position to push the limits of law and make a difference DO IT for the boss. I guarantee the IRS morons were expecting high praise! And I believe that if targeting Republican donors had not become public-- Chicago Mob Obama WOULD HAVE rewarded and promoted the IRS perps who screwed Republicans for him. They heard his repeated speeches listing the names of Republican organizations and even individuals. They read the scurrilous tarring of those people and those organizations during the campaign. Everyone knew Axelrod and team were Chicago campaign people, the same thugs who got Obama elected by RUINING his opponents to the state and US Senate. "Do it, but don't get caught!!!"

I hope they all lie to congress and go to jail penniless!

Larry

[MNMikeW]

You are beyond hope.

[KenPitts]

After so many examples of Obama's devious nature, it is beyond me how any thinking person can have such a rosy view of the man.

Ken

[KenPitts]

On Monday, May 20, 2013 5:46:05 PM UTC-5, KenPitts wrote:

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/05/20/exclusive-texas-based-hispanic-group-the-irs-targeted-us/

[jay birdsong]

"Alan Baker" wrote in message

news:alangbaker-21906...@news.datemas.de...

In article <kndqn9$npk$1...@dont-email.me>,
"jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-A4924...@news.datemas.de...
>
> In article <69f843a5-970d-4a78...@googlegroups.com>,
> "la...@pivotforpower.com" <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
>
> > On Monday, May 20, 2013 6:39:41 AM UTC-7, jay birdsong wrote:
> > > "Alan Baker" wrote in message
>

> "Race car"!!?? HOOT - you mean broken down, used up, pig in a poke,
> POS. LOL.

>Sorry, but I don't have one of those.

Yes, you do. We all know it. You paid top dollar for a broken down
pig in a poke, that you’ve been working months on.

>Once I finish wiring the battery in its new location (and wiring in
>the
>new transponder and the recharging harness), I'm installing the seat,
>and firing it up!

>I'm on track with it for the first time this coming Friday, you see.

But no one cares. Try not to hit anything like you did last time.

[Alan Baker]

In article <knecds$np5$1...@dont-email.me>,

"jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-21906...@news.datemas.de...
>
> In article <kndqn9$npk$1...@dont-email.me>,
> "jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> > news:alangbaker-A4924...@news.datemas.de...
> >
> > In article <69f843a5-970d-4a78...@googlegroups.com>,
> > "la...@pivotforpower.com" <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Monday, May 20, 2013 6:39:41 AM UTC-7, jay birdsong wrote:
> > > > "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> >
> > "Race car"!!?? HOOT - you mean broken down, used up, pig in a poke,
> > POS. LOL.
>
> >Sorry, but I don't have one of those.
>
>
> Yes, you do. We all know it. You paid top dollar for a broken down
> pig in a poke, that you’ve been working months on.

How do "we" (assuming anyone else other than your self even claims it)
"know" this, Michael?

Yes: I've been working on it--very slowly--for quite some time. But
mostly, it was the fact that working on a car in an unheated garage
space this winter wasn't really much fun.

:-)

>
>
> >Once I finish wiring the battery in its new location (and wiring in
> >the
> >new transponder and the recharging harness), I'm installing the seat,
> >and firing it up!
>
> >I'm on track with it for the first time this coming Friday, you see.
>
>
> But no one cares. Try not to hit anything like you did last time.

You obviously care desperately.

And I didn't hit anything last time, BTW.

[Horva...@net.net]

On Mon, 20 May 2013 22:04:40 -0700, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
wrote this crap:

>
>>
>>
>> >Once I finish wiring the battery in its new location (and wiring in
>> >the
>> >new transponder and the recharging harness), I'm installing the seat,
>> >and firing it up!
>>
>> >I'm on track with it for the first time this coming Friday, you see.
>>
>>
>> But no one cares. Try not to hit anything like you did last time.
>
>You obviously care desperately.
>
>And I didn't hit anything last time, BTW.
>
>:-)

I thought you said you hit a wall.

[Alan Baker]

In article <1j8mp8d7smh8sl3s5...@4ax.com>,

Did I say that?

[Horva...@net.net]

On Tue, 21 May 2013 00:40:28 -0700, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>

wrote this crap:

>In article <1j8mp8d7smh8sl3s5...@4ax.com>,
> Horva...@net.net wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 20 May 2013 22:04:40 -0700, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
>> wrote this crap:
>>
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >Once I finish wiring the battery in its new location (and wiring in
>> >> >the
>> >> >new transponder and the recharging harness), I'm installing the seat,
>> >> >and firing it up!
>> >>
>> >> >I'm on track with it for the first time this coming Friday, you see.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> But no one cares. Try not to hit anything like you did last time.
>> >
>> >You obviously care desperately.
>> >
>> >And I didn't hit anything last time, BTW.
>> >
>> >:-)
>>
>> I thought you said you hit a wall.
>
>Did I say that?

I remember reading that you hit a wall and it slowed you down during
one lap. Am I wrong?

BTW, I can rewire a battery in ten minutes, in my sleep.

[jay birdsong]

wrote in message news:1j8mp8d7smh8sl3s5...@4ax.com...

He did. He had to pay for some suspension parts. 33 contestants, and
two mooks hit the wall. He was one of them.

[jay birdsong]

"Alan Baker" wrote in message

news:alangbaker-70ADA...@news.shawcable.net...

In article <knecds$np5$1...@dont-email.me>,
"jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-21906...@news.datemas.de...
>
> In article <kndqn9$npk$1...@dont-email.me>,
> "jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> > news:alangbaker-A4924...@news.datemas.de...
> >
> > In article
> > <69f843a5-970d-4a78...@googlegroups.com>,
> > "la...@pivotforpower.com" <la...@pivotforpower.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Monday, May 20, 2013 6:39:41 AM UTC-7, jay birdsong wrote:
> > > > "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> >
> > "Race car"!!?? HOOT - you mean broken down, used up, pig in a
> > poke,
> > POS. LOL.
>
> >Sorry, but I don't have one of those.
>
>
> Yes, you do. We all know it. You paid top dollar for a broken down

> pig in a poke, that you’ve been working months on.

>How do "we" (assuming anyone else other than your self even claims
>it)
"know" this, Michael?

Yes: I've been working on it--very slowly--for quite some time. But
>mostly, it was the fact that working on a car in an unheated garage
>space this winter wasn't really much fun.

>:-)

>
>
> >Once I finish wiring the battery in its new location (and wiring in
> >the
> >new transponder and the recharging harness), I'm installing the
> >seat,
> >and firing it up!
>
> >I'm on track with it for the first time this coming Friday, you
> >see.
>
>
> But no one cares. Try not to hit anything like you did last time.

>You obviously care desperately.

>And I didn't hit anything last time, BTW.

Errr.... yes... you did. And you claim your not a liar? HOOT!!!

>:-)

oIo

BTW: Your text is broken in addition to your links.

snip dumb cunt sig.

[BAR]

In article <qpgmp8pb9td3vsf5e...@4ax.com>, Horva...@net.net says...

>
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 00:40:28 -0700, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
> wrote this crap:
>
> >In article <1j8mp8d7smh8sl3s5...@4ax.com>,
> > Horva...@net.net wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 20 May 2013 22:04:40 -0700, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
> >> wrote this crap:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >Once I finish wiring the battery in its new location (and wiring in
> >> >> >the
> >> >> >new transponder and the recharging harness), I'm installing the seat,
> >> >> >and firing it up!
> >> >>
> >> >> >I'm on track with it for the first time this coming Friday, you see.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> But no one cares. Try not to hit anything like you did last time.
> >> >
> >> >You obviously care desperately.
> >> >
> >> >And I didn't hit anything last time, BTW.
> >> >
> >> >:-)
> >>
> >> I thought you said you hit a wall.
> >
> >Did I say that?
>
> I remember reading that you hit a wall and it slowed you down during
> one lap. Am I wrong?

The wall he hit was the extent of his driving capabilites.

[Alan Baker]

In article <qpgmp8pb9td3vsf5e...@4ax.com>,

Horva...@net.net wrote:

> On Tue, 21 May 2013 00:40:28 -0700, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
> wrote this crap:
>
> >In article <1j8mp8d7smh8sl3s5...@4ax.com>,
> > Horva...@net.net wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 20 May 2013 22:04:40 -0700, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
> >> wrote this crap:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >Once I finish wiring the battery in its new location (and wiring in
> >> >> >the
> >> >> >new transponder and the recharging harness), I'm installing the seat,
> >> >> >and firing it up!
> >> >>
> >> >> >I'm on track with it for the first time this coming Friday, you see.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> But no one cares. Try not to hit anything like you did last time.
> >> >
> >> >You obviously care desperately.
> >> >
> >> >And I didn't hit anything last time, BTW.
> >> >
> >> >:-)
> >>
> >> I thought you said you hit a wall.
> >
> >Did I say that?
>
> I remember reading that you hit a wall and it slowed you down during
> one lap. Am I wrong?

Nope. Not about that.

[Alan Baker]

In article <MPG.2c052ef7e...@news.giganews.com>,

BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:

> In article <qpgmp8pb9td3vsf5e...@4ax.com>, Horva...@net.net
> says...
> >
> > On Tue, 21 May 2013 00:40:28 -0700, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
> > wrote this crap:
> >
> > >In article <1j8mp8d7smh8sl3s5...@4ax.com>,
> > > Horva...@net.net wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Mon, 20 May 2013 22:04:40 -0700, Alan Baker <alang...@telus.net>
> > >> wrote this crap:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >Once I finish wiring the battery in its new location (and wiring in
> > >> >> >the
> > >> >> >new transponder and the recharging harness), I'm installing the
> > >> >> >seat,
> > >> >> >and firing it up!
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >I'm on track with it for the first time this coming Friday, you see.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> But no one cares. Try not to hit anything like you did last time.
> > >> >
> > >> >You obviously care desperately.
> > >> >
> > >> >And I didn't hit anything last time, BTW.
> > >> >
> > >> >:-)
> > >>
> > >> I thought you said you hit a wall.
> > >
> > >Did I say that?
> >
> > I remember reading that you hit a wall and it slowed you down during
> > one lap. Am I wrong?
>
> The wall he hit was the extent of his driving capabilites.

You're welcome to come and show your amazing skill any time.

:-)

[Alan Baker]

In article <knfma6$9nc$1...@dont-email.me>,

Is that what happened...

..."last time"?

[Alan Baker]

In article <knfmec$aan$1...@dont-email.me>,

"jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:

> > >Once I finish wiring the battery in its new location (and wiring in
> > >the
> > >new transponder and the recharging harness), I'm installing the
> > >seat,
> > >and firing it up!
> >
> > >I'm on track with it for the first time this coming Friday, you
> > >see.
> >
> >
> > But no one cares. Try not to hit anything like you did last time.
>
> >You obviously care desperately.
>
> >And I didn't hit anything last time, BTW.
>
> Errr.... yes... you did. And you claim your not a liar? HOOT!!!

Errr... ...no... ...I didn't.

I did hit a wall back in January...

...but I've done 4 more days on track since then.

You weren't quite bright enough to figure out that that could be the
case, huh?

[jay birdsong]

"Alan Baker" wrote in message

news:alangbaker-7BAD7...@news.shawcable.net...

It's what happened. It doesn't matter which time.

[jay birdsong]

"Alan Baker" wrote in message

news:alangbaker-4E6B0...@news.shawcable.net...

In article <knfmec$aan$1...@dont-email.me>,
"jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:

> > >Once I finish wiring the battery in its new location (and wiring
> > >in
> > >the
> > >new transponder and the recharging harness), I'm installing the
> > >seat,
> > >and firing it up!
> >
> > >I'm on track with it for the first time this coming Friday, you
> > >see.
> >
> >
> > But no one cares. Try not to hit anything like you did last time.
>
> >You obviously care desperately.
>
> >And I didn't hit anything last time, BTW.
>
> Errr.... yes... you did. And you claim your not a liar? HOOT!!!

>Errr... ...no... ...I didn't.

>I did hit a wall back in January...

So you did? Why did you attempt to deny it?

A "very long time ago" like Benghazi? HOOT!!! Yer killin us.

>...but I've done 4 more days on track since then.

Did you creep along extra slow, Creep?

>You weren't quite bright enough to figure out that that could be the
>case, huh?

The "case" is; you hit the wall, it doesn't matter when, and then
attempted to deny it. You are a creepy little Worm.

>:-)

oIo

snip creepy dumb cunt sig.

[Alan Baker]

In article <kng76k$88q$1...@dont-email.me>,

It matters a great deal when you tell me what happened "last time"...

...and you're wrong.

If you race car, you're going to have incidents, Michael.

You'd know that... ...if you had the balls to try it.

[jay birdsong]

"Alan Baker" wrote in message

news:alangbaker-88494...@news.shawcable.net...

It happened - and that's all that matters. And you tried to deny it.
Using "last time" as a crutch is amusing.

>If you race car, you're going to have incidents, Michael.

No, "YOU'RE" going to have incidents. You are totally inept.

>You'd know that... ...if you had the balls to try it.

Yeah, it sounds "hairy" creeping along at 104 mph. Wheee!!!
104!!!!!! My grandmother could drive that fast.

>:-)

oIo

[Alan Baker]

In article <kng9r1$oem$1...@dont-email.me>,

"jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:

> > > >> But no one cares. Try not to hit anything like you did last
> > > >> time.
> > > >
> > > >You obviously care desperately.
> > > >
> > > >And I didn't hit anything last time, BTW.
> > > >
> > > >:-)
> > >
> > > >I thought you said you hit a wall.
> > >
> > > He did. He had to pay for some suspension parts. 33 contestants,
> > > and
> > > two mooks hit the wall. He was one of them.
> >
> > >Is that what happened...
> >
> > >..."last time"?
> >
> > It's what happened. It doesn't matter which time.
>
> >It matters a great deal when you tell me what happened "last time"...
>
> >...and you're wrong.
>
> It happened - and that's all that matters. And you tried to deny it.
> Using "last time" as a crutch is amusing.

No. I didn't try to deny it.

You said I "hit [something] [...] LAST TIME"...

...and the simple truth is that I didn't hit anything last time, or the
time before that. And the other truth is that in a competition where
time matters, I exceeded the limit by a couple of miles an hour in a
place where the wall is very close to the track and just tweaked one
rear suspension member.

It's racing: that happens.

>
>
> >If you race car, you're going to have incidents, Michael.
>
> No, "YOU'RE" going to have incidents. You are totally inept.

ALL race drivers have incidents, Michael. If you're not occasionally
exceeding the limit, you're not going fast enough.

>
> >You'd know that... ...if you had the balls to try it.
>
> Yeah, it sounds "hairy" creeping along at 104 mph. Wheee!!!
> 104!!!!!! My grandmother could drive that fast.

People who don't understand racing always focus on top speed. The part
that takes the balls is going through a corner at 80mph (for instance)
when it feels like 60mph would be a bad idea.

Any idiot can keep a modern car going flat out when the road is
straight. You're the perfect example of that fact.

[Alan Baker]

In article <kng7i5$agr$1...@dont-email.me>,

"jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-4E6B0...@news.shawcable.net...
>
> In article <knfmec$aan$1...@dont-email.me>,
> "jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > >Once I finish wiring the battery in its new location (and wiring
> > > >in
> > > >the
> > > >new transponder and the recharging harness), I'm installing the
> > > >seat,
> > > >and firing it up!
> > >
> > > >I'm on track with it for the first time this coming Friday, you
> > > >see.
> > >
> > >
> > > But no one cares. Try not to hit anything like you did last time.
> >
> > >You obviously care desperately.
> >
> > >And I didn't hit anything last time, BTW.
> >
> > Errr.... yes... you did. And you claim your not a liar? HOOT!!!
>
> >Errr... ...no... ...I didn't.
>
> >I did hit a wall back in January...
>
> So you did? Why did you attempt to deny it?

I didn't try to deny it.

>

> A "very long time ago" like Benghazi? HOOT!!! Yer killin us.

A made up quote?

>
>
> >...but I've done 4 more days on track since then.
>
> Did you creep along extra slow, Creep?

Come out to the track and see...

...if you've got the stones... ...and if anyone would even let you.

:-)

>
> >You weren't quite bright enough to figure out that that could be the
> >case, huh?
>
> The "case" is; you hit the wall, it doesn't matter when, and then
> attempted to deny it. You are a creepy little Worm.

The case is that I tapped a wall and I didn't try to deny it.

Facts are such pesky things, aren't they?

[jay birdsong]

"Alan Baker" wrote in message

news:alangbaker-EDB47...@news.shawcable.net...

In article <kng9r1$oem$1...@dont-email.me>,
"jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:

> > > >> But no one cares. Try not to hit anything like you did last
> > > >> time.
> > > >
> > > >You obviously care desperately.
> > > >
> > > >And I didn't hit anything last time, BTW.
> > > >
> > > >:-)
> > >
> > > >I thought you said you hit a wall.
> > >
> > > He did. He had to pay for some suspension parts. 33
> > > contestants,
> > > and
> > > two mooks hit the wall. He was one of them.
> >
> > >Is that what happened...
> >
> > >..."last time"?
> >
> > It's what happened. It doesn't matter which time.
>
> >It matters a great deal when you tell me what happened "last
> >time"...
>
> >...and you're wrong.
>
> It happened - and that's all that matters. And you tried to deny
> it.
> Using "last time" as a crutch is amusing.

>No. I didn't try to deny it.

>You said I "hit [something] [...] LAST TIME"...

It doesn't matter when - it only matters that you did. If you didn't
hit anything I would be wrong - but - you did.

Are you done beating the "Last time" dead horse yet?

>...and the simple truth is that I didn't hit anything last time, or
>the
>time before that. And the other truth is that in a competition where
>time matters, I exceeded the limit by a couple of miles an hour in a
>place where the wall is very close to the track and just tweaked one
>rear suspension member.

>It's racing: that happens.

It was your ineptness that happened.

>
>
> >If you race car, you're going to have incidents, Michael.
>
> No, "YOU'RE" going to have incidents. You are totally inept.

>ALL race drivers have incidents, Michael.

Says you. A 33 person field, and only two dicks hit something. And
you were one of the dicks.

> If you're not occasionally
>exceeding the limit, you're not going fast enough.

AH! A racing pro in addition to all your other non-talents.

>
> >You'd know that... ...if you had the balls to try it.
>
> Yeah, it sounds "hairy" creeping along at 104 mph. Wheee!!!
> 104!!!!!! My grandmother could drive that fast.

>People who don't understand racing always focus on top speed. The
>part
>that takes the balls is going through a corner at 80mph (for
>instance)
>when it feels like 60mph would be a bad idea.

The racing "pro" instructs on what he knows almost nothing about.

>Any idiot can keep a modern car going flat out when the road is
>straight.

Except you. You were all over the track in the straights.

>You're the perfect example of that fact.

We only know your record of racing, Loser. Non of mine. I keep my
life away from Usenet, unlike a Masochistic Narcissist such as you.

>:-)

oIo

Are you done defending your piss poor record yet? If so - move along.
Go set up an iPad.

snip dumb cunt sig.

[jay birdsong]

"Alan Baker" wrote in message

news:alangbaker-25C31...@news.shawcable.net...

Watch the news much?

>
>
> >...but I've done 4 more days on track since then.
>
> Did you creep along extra slow, Creep?

>Come out to the track and see...

I don't play with creeps like you. In fact, on the same track I would
help you into the wall.

>...if you've got the stones... ...and if anyone would even let you.

You simply don't know anything about me or what "anyone" would let me
do. You are clueless.

>:-)

oIo

>
> >You weren't quite bright enough to figure out that that could be
> >the
> >case, huh?
>
> The "case" is; you hit the wall, it doesn't matter when, and then
> attempted to deny it. You are a creepy little Worm.

>The case is that I tapped a wall and I didn't try to deny it.

"Tapped"!! "Hit" is what you did.

>Facts are such pesky things, aren't they?

Yes - you tried to lie and obfuscate yourself out of admitting hitting
the wall - but you couldn't hide the pesky fact that you did. Bu. bu,
but "it wasn't last time", as if it really matters.

>:-)

oIo

Done dancing yet, Loser? Or are you compelled to get in the last
word? Yes - you are compelled. So predictable. You must lose big at
poker, and life.

[Alan Baker]

In article <knge06$jnh$1...@dont-email.me>,

But not last time... ...as you claimed.

>
> Are you done beating the "Last time" dead horse yet?

Have you gotten tired of being beaten yet?

>
>
> >...and the simple truth is that I didn't hit anything last time, or
> >the
> >time before that. And the other truth is that in a competition where
> >time matters, I exceeded the limit by a couple of miles an hour in a
> >place where the wall is very close to the track and just tweaked one
> >rear suspension member.
>
> >It's racing: that happens.
>
> It was your ineptness that happened.

LOL

Come out and show me how, Michael!

>
> >
> >
> > >If you race car, you're going to have incidents, Michael.
> >
> > No, "YOU'RE" going to have incidents. You are totally inept.
>
> >ALL race drivers have incidents, Michael.
>
> Says you. A 33 person field, and only two dicks hit something. And
> you were one of the dicks.

And I was faster than a lot of those guys who didn't hit anything.

:-)

>
>
> > If you're not occasionally
> >exceeding the limit, you're not going fast enough.
>
> AH! A racing pro in addition to all your other non-talents.

You hardly have to be a racing pro to know that.

>
>
> >
> > >You'd know that... ...if you had the balls to try it.
> >
> > Yeah, it sounds "hairy" creeping along at 104 mph. Wheee!!!
> > 104!!!!!! My grandmother could drive that fast.
>
> >People who don't understand racing always focus on top speed. The
> >part
> >that takes the balls is going through a corner at 80mph (for
> >instance)
> >when it feels like 60mph would be a bad idea.
>
> The racing "pro" instructs on what he knows almost nothing about.

Come out and show me what YOU know, Michael!

>
> >Any idiot can keep a modern car going flat out when the road is
> >straight.
>
> Except you. You were all over the track in the straights.

That's what you said...

...about the instructor's video.

:-)

>
> >You're the perfect example of that fact.
>
> We only know your record of racing, Loser. Non of mine. I keep my
> life away from Usenet, unlike a Masochistic Narcissist such as you.

LOL

[Alan Baker]

In article <kngeg9$mkf$1...@dont-email.me>,

How does it relate to this conversation?

>
> >
> >
> > >...but I've done 4 more days on track since then.
> >
> > Did you creep along extra slow, Creep?
>
> >Come out to the track and see...
>
>
> I don't play with creeps like you. In fact, on the same track I would
> help you into the wall.

You couldn't stay near me.

>
>
> >...if you've got the stones... ...and if anyone would even let you.
>
> You simply don't know anything about me or what "anyone" would let me
> do. You are clueless.

LOL

>
> >:-)
>
> oIo
>
> >
> > >You weren't quite bright enough to figure out that that could be
> > >the
> > >case, huh?
> >
> > The "case" is; you hit the wall, it doesn't matter when, and then
> > attempted to deny it. You are a creepy little Worm.
>
> >The case is that I tapped a wall and I didn't try to deny it.
>
> "Tapped"!! "Hit" is what you did.

Tapped is more like it.

>
>
> >Facts are such pesky things, aren't they?
>
> Yes - you tried to lie and obfuscate yourself out of admitting hitting
> the wall - but you couldn't hide the pesky fact that you did. Bu. bu,
> but "it wasn't last time", as if it really matters.

I haven't lied or obfuscated. I corrected an incorrect statement.

[jay birdsong]

"jay birdsong" wrote in message news:knge06$jnh$1...@dont-email.me...

"Alan Baker" wrote in message
>news:alangbaker-EDB47...@news.shawcable.net...

oIo

>Are you done defending your piss poor record yet? If so - move
>along. Go set up an iPad.

No - tsk, tsk, tsk.

[jay birdsong]

"Alan Baker" wrote in message

news:alangbaker-6432C...@news.shawcable.net...

BWAHAAAHAAAAAAAHARHARHARHAR. Yeah - your good - in your own mind.

>
>
> >...if you've got the stones... ...and if anyone would even let you.
>
> You simply don't know anything about me or what "anyone" would let
> me
> do. You are clueless.

>LOL

>
> >:-)
>
> oIo
>
> >
> > >You weren't quite bright enough to figure out that that could be
> > >the
> > >case, huh?
> >
> > The "case" is; you hit the wall, it doesn't matter when, and then
> > attempted to deny it. You are a creepy little Worm.
>
> >The case is that I tapped a wall and I didn't try to deny it.
>
> "Tapped"!! "Hit" is what you did.

>Tapped is more like it.

Hit is what is was - now that you were forced to admit it.

>
>
> >Facts are such pesky things, aren't they?
>
> Yes - you tried to lie and obfuscate yourself out of admitting
> hitting
> the wall - but you couldn't hide the pesky fact that you did. Bu.
> bu,
> but "it wasn't last time", as if it really matters.

>I haven't lied or obfuscated. I corrected an incorrect statement.

There was nothing incorrect in the statement, "you hit the wall", -
period.


Replacing what you snipped:

Done dancing yet, Loser? Or are you compelled to get in the last
word? Yes - you are compelled. So predictable. You must lose big at
poker, and life.

The last is yours, Loser - you are compelled, it's the only way you
can rationalize that you "won".