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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS

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May 12, 2008, 2:18:47 PM5/12/08
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He had the TPC locked up and then he gave it to a psychotic criminal and
foreigner like sergio.

Deucewood

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May 12, 2008, 2:32:35 PM5/12/08
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He did not want to Craig Perks himself and try and live with
expectations out of his comfort zone. His subconcious caused him to
lose it.

cja

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May 12, 2008, 3:05:20 PM5/12/08
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On May 12, 2:32 pm, bjwil...@ilstu.edu (Deucewood) wrote:
> On Mon, 12 May 2008 13:18:47 -0500, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
>
> MURDERERS" <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >He had the TPC locked up and then he gave it to a psychotic criminal and
> >foreigner like sergio.
>
> He did not want to Craig Perks himself and try and live with
> expectations out of his comfort zone. His subconcious caused him to
> lose it.
>
I think Sunshine is level-headed enough that he wouldn't have been
Perksified. It didn't look like he hit a poor shot on #17, the wind
just knocked it out of the sky. Or, if S&DDAM is suggesting he choked
by not getting par on #18, I disagree with that too. He certainly had
a great opportunity to win it there, but #18 was playing like a Par 5
yesterday.

The 2nd place check for $1,026,000.00 that Goydos is taking home
should make him feel a little better.

- cja

Deucewood

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May 12, 2008, 3:13:44 PM5/12/08
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On Mon, 12 May 2008 12:05:20 -0700 (PDT), cja <c...@excite.com> wrote:

Long term I think he will be more comfortable in the Players runner
up role than Players champion. I don't think he has to worry about the
money anyhow - a mil eases the pain as you say.

Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS

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May 12, 2008, 3:18:46 PM5/12/08
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cja <c...@excite.com> wrote in
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>>
> I think Sunshine is level-headed enough that he wouldn't have been
> Perksified. It didn't look like he hit a poor shot on #17, the wind
> just knocked it out of the sky. Or, if S&DDAM is suggesting he choked
> by not getting par on #18, I disagree with that too. He certainly had
> a great opportunity to win it there, but #18 was playing like a Par 5
> yesterday.
>

Dood - a winner does not LAY UP ON A PAR FOUR when a bogie will cost him
the lead. That's what goydos did on 18 and that says choke city. Next
question.

John van der Pflum

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May 12, 2008, 3:25:42 PM5/12/08
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On Mon, 12 May 2008 13:18:47 -0500, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
MURDERERS" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>He had the TPC locked up and then he gave it to a psychotic criminal and
>foreigner like sergio.

Jean van de Velde is on line 1.

Greg Norman is on line 2.
--
jvdp
Nobody fears the Chopra
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

cja

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May 12, 2008, 3:28:10 PM5/12/08
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On May 12, 3:18 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
His drive on 18 didn't leave him a very realistic chance of getting it
on the green. If he would have gone for it and put it in the lake,
like Els, would you call him a choker then?

Darrell Jefress

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May 12, 2008, 4:00:31 PM5/12/08
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"John van der Pflum" <nowhammy...@bite.org> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 12 May 2008 13:18:47 -0500, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
> MURDERERS" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >He had the TPC locked up and then he gave it to a psychotic criminal and
> >foreigner like sergio.
>
> Jean van de Velde is on line 1.
>
> Greg Norman is on line 2.

Line 3 from Winged Foot. Some guy named "Phil", I think he said.

DJJ

Phil fears the Chopra?


Bobby Knight

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May 12, 2008, 4:14:38 PM5/12/08
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Dood? Even teenagers stopped using that. Grow up.

Did you not note that Goydos had a terrible lie, and almost no chance
of getting home on his second shot? He could've dumped in the water,
or sliced it to an unplayable lie. He made the right choice.
Did you note that Sergio had almost the exact third shot as Goydos?
It all came down to the better pitch shot, which Sergio made.

Did you notice that there were very few that hit 18 in two because of
the wind?

One thing I notice. You're an idiot.
bk

BAH

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May 12, 2008, 5:01:29 PM5/12/08
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I love the final 2 holes at TPC. A sphincter-tightening island green,
followed by a par 4 that either gives a player a good chance for a
birdie, or makes it damned hard to get a par, depending on the
conditions. That's how finishing holes should be.

Gordo

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May 12, 2008, 7:07:11 PM5/12/08
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"Deucewood" <bjwi...@ilstu.edu> wrote in message
news:48288cfd....@news.individual.net...

So, we have the xeton idiot suggesting that Goydos choked, and Deucewood
suggesting that he didn't want to 'perks' himself. Rather humorous how
theories in a newsgroup can be made up between nap times.


Jeff

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May 12, 2008, 10:04:08 PM5/12/08
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Great article on Goydos by John Feinstein in the Washington Post. Such a
nice guy. Oh well, at least this time a nice guy finishes second.

"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:Xns9A9C7D416CC7Dr...@216.168.3.70...

Bobby Knight

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May 12, 2008, 10:24:22 PM5/12/08
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On Tue, 13 May 2008 02:04:08 GMT, "Jeff" <jrw...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Great article on Goydos by John Feinstein in the Washington Post. Such a
>nice guy. Oh well, at least this time a nice guy finishes second.
>

A great article, with some more insights into Goydos. Thanks for
mentioning it.

BK

John van der Pflum

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May 13, 2008, 7:59:49 AM5/13/08
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On Mon, 12 May 2008 20:00:31 GMT, "Darrell Jefress" <eve...@tokyo.com>
wrote:

No one fears the Chopra

Tom Yost

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May 13, 2008, 11:04:24 AM5/13/08
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On Mon, 12 May 2008 20:14:38 GMT, Bobby Knight <bkn...@conramp.net>
wrote:

>Did you not note that Goydos had a terrible lie, and almost no chance
>of getting home on his second shot? He could've dumped in the water,
>or sliced it to an unplayable lie. He made the right choice.

Why waste your time engaging this idiot troll?


Ben

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May 13, 2008, 11:50:41 AM5/13/08
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On May 12, 9:24 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 13 May 2008 02:04:08 GMT, "Jeff" <jrw8...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Great article on Goydos by John Feinstein in the Washington Post.  Such a
> >nice guy.  Oh well, at least this time a nice guy finishes second.
>
> A great article, with some more insights into Goydos.  Thanks for
> mentioning it.
>
> BK

I didn't wanna sign up for another newspaper UN/PW - I already get San
Jose Mercury, Atlanta Constitution, NY Times, etc. Can you paste the
text from the article?

Bobby Knight

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May 13, 2008, 12:01:02 PM5/13/08
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On Tue, 13 May 2008 08:50:41 -0700 (PDT), Ben <kom...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Really long article. Here's the URL for it.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/12/AR2008051201614.html

No cost to sign up for Washington post.
bk

MoiMoi

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May 13, 2008, 12:26:01 PM5/13/08
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In article <snej24h1rt2bssvm3...@4ax.com>,
bkn...@conramp.net says...

Well, you don't have to sign up at all to read this.

MM

Ben

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May 13, 2008, 12:47:39 PM5/13/08
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On May 13, 11:01 am, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 13 May 2008 08:50:41 -0700 (PDT), Ben <komb...@yahoo.com>

> wrote:
>
> >On May 12, 9:24 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 13 May 2008 02:04:08 GMT, "Jeff" <jrw8...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >Great article on Goydos by John Feinstein in the Washington Post.  Such a
> >> >nice guy.  Oh well, at least this time a nice guy finishes second.
>
> >> A great article, with some more insights into Goydos.  Thanks for
> >> mentioning it.
>
> >> BK
>
> >I didn't wanna sign up for another newspaper UN/PW - I already get San
> >Jose Mercury, Atlanta Constitution, NY Times, etc.  Can you paste the
> >text from the article?
>
> Really long article.   Here's the URL for it.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/12/AR200...

>
>  No cost to sign up for Washington post.
> bk

No, I know it's free, I'm just sick of having to create accounts to
read articles. Thx for posting...

Bobby Knight

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May 13, 2008, 12:53:42 PM5/13/08
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On Tue, 13 May 2008 09:47:39 -0700 (PDT), Ben <kom...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On May 13, 11:01 am, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:

No problem. Moi Moi says that you can access this without creating an
account. Since I have one, and the cookie, I didn't know.
BK

Ben

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May 13, 2008, 1:12:22 PM5/13/08
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On May 13, 11:53 am, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:

> >No, I know it's free, I'm just sick of having to create accounts to
> >read articles.  Thx for posting...
>
> No problem.  Moi Moi says that you can access this without creating an
> account.  Since I have one, and the cookie, I didn't know.

> BK- Hide quoted text -

Excellent article, quite a guy. I remember him from Feinstein's book,
and thus I took notice last year when he won in Hawaii. Seems like a
really cool, laid back Cali guy. I think it was Johnny Miller that
called him the California version of Boo Weekley - I guess I can buy
that. Except Goydos doesn't pretend to be stupid, he just tells it
like it is, which, as we all know, is an extremely rare commodity on
the PGA TOUR.

Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS

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May 13, 2008, 3:25:52 PM5/13/08
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On May 12, 2:14 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:

>
> Did you not note that Goydos had a terrible lie, and almost no chance
> of getting home on his second shot?

BS - it would have been a tough but far from impossible shot. But he
didn't even try!!!!!!! And then he puts it in the drink on the first
playoff hole and blames the wind!! And then he gets a million $ for
coming in second.!! You call that fair, you idiot?

Darrell Jefress

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May 13, 2008, 4:57:48 PM5/13/08
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"John van der Pflum" <nowhammy...@bite.org> wrote in message
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> No one fears the Chopra
> --
> jvdp
> Nobody fears the Chopra

Well, which is it? Nobody, or no one? Or maybe both, and they're the only
two guys who fear the Chopra.

DJJ


Darrell Jefress

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May 13, 2008, 5:03:15 PM5/13/08
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"Bobby Knight" <bkn...@conramp.net> wrote in message
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> A great article, with some more insights into Goydos. Thanks for
> mentioning it.
>
> BK

the article seems to imply that Goydos' politics are somewhere left of
center, and at the same time, he got big props on the radio yesterday from
none other than Rush Limbaugh. That's another testimony to what a good guy
he is.

So who would be the counterparts to Goydos in other sports? I'm thinking
non-stars who are likeable guys that all their colleagues will root for and
who is good for a quip in the press conference, win or lose.

One name that comes to mind is Calvin Borel, the jockey who won the '07
Kentucky Derby. He's probably one of the top 25 riders, though, so he's not
a journeyman in the sense that Goydos is.

DJJ


John van der Pflum

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May 13, 2008, 6:49:06 PM5/13/08
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eOn Tue, 13 May 2008 20:57:48 GMT, "Darrell Jefress"
<eve...@tokyo.com> wrote:

I dunno. I can't decide. What do you think?

--
jvdp
Nobody fears the Chopra

http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

Darrell Jefress

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"John van der Pflum" <nowhammy...@bite.org> wrote in message
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> I dunno. I can't decide. What do you think?

Only Anni knows for sure.

DJJ

(So if Goydos fears the Chopra, does that mean Goydos is nobody?)


Bobby Knight

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May 13, 2008, 7:45:09 PM5/13/08
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Yost is right. This fool has no concept of golf...just a troll.
--
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\o
|
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.
"Someone likes every shot"!
bk

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May 13, 2008, 11:29:08 PM5/13/08
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On May 13, 3:03 pm, "Darrell Jefress" <eve...@tokyo.com> wrote:
..
>

>
> the article seems to imply that Goydos' politics are somewhere left of
> center, and at the same time, he got big props on the radio yesterday from
> none other than Rush Limbaugh. That's another testimony to what a good guy
> he is.
>

Are you serious? A draft-dodging warmonger and drug criminal like
Limbaugh supports the guy and you say that's good for him???? Get help
please.

Aodhan

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May 13, 2008, 6:46:22 PM5/13/08
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> BS - it would have been a tough but far from impossible shot. But he
> didn't even try!!!!!!! And then he puts it in the drink on the first
> playoff hole and blames the wind!! And then he gets a million $ for
> coming in second.!! You call that fair, you idiot?

Well....yes, actually. You idiot. Of course, he might have been better if
he hadn't been drunk. His walking scorer kept having to go fetch him
vanilla vodka, his nerves were so frayed.

________________________________________________________________________ 
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assim...@borg.org

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May 16, 2008, 1:50:56 AM5/16/08
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On 13-May-2008, Ben <kom...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> No, I know it's free, I'm just sick of having to create accounts to
> read articles. Thx for posting...

i've had good luck with this:


http://www.bugmenot.com/

--
bill-o
Play the ball as it lies.
Play the course as you find it.
And if you can’t do either, do what is fair.

Ben

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On May 16, 12:50 am, assimil...@borg.org wrote:

> On 13-May-2008, Ben <komb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > No, I know it's free, I'm just sick of having to create accounts to
> > read articles.  Thx for posting...
>
> i've had good luck with this:
>
> http://www.bugmenot.com/

Excellent! Thx, man. You going to the AT&T Sunday?

Tom Yost

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"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:Xns9A9C876C8B64ri...@216.168.3.70:

> cja <c...@excite.com> wrote in
> news:a95897ff-d31a-4cdf...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
>
>>>
>> I think Sunshine is level-headed enough that he wouldn't have been
>> Perksified. It didn't look like he hit a poor shot on #17, the wind
>> just knocked it out of the sky. Or, if S&DDAM is suggesting he choked
>> by not getting par on #18, I disagree with that too. He certainly had
>> a great opportunity to win it there, but #18 was playing like a Par 5
>> yesterday.
>>
>
> Dood - a winner does not LAY UP ON A PAR FOUR when a bogie will cost him
> the lead. That's what goydos did on 18 and that says choke city. Next
> question.

Shutup, hater.

Tom Yost

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"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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> He had the TPC locked up and then he gave it to a psychotic criminal and
> foreigner like sergio.

Hater

Tom Yost

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"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <bet...@earthlink.net> wrote
in
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Shutup, hater.

John van der Pflum

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May 16, 2008, 6:47:26 PM5/16/08
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David Toms in the 2001 PGA Championship is on line 1.

assim...@borg.org

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May 18, 2008, 12:40:40 AM5/18/08
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On 16-May-2008, Ben <kom...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Excellent! Thx, man. You going to the AT&T Sunday?

Nope, I'll be playin, on the opposite end of town, Newnan to be exact. Might
catch the end @ the 19th hole.

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