"low level employees"

[MNMikeW]

This is as big a bullshit line as "hope and change".

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2329067/Congress-hosts-IRS-bloodbath-slamming-tax-authorities-partisan-targeting-conservatives-official-refuses-answer-questions.html

[BAR]

In article <b04h5t...@mid.individual.net>, mnmi...@aol.com says...

>
> This is as big a bullshit line as "hope and change".
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2329067/Congress-hosts-IRS-bloodbath-slamming-tax-authorities-partisan-targeting-conservatives-official-refuses-answer-questions.html

Didn't Lerner learn anything from the Congressional investigation of the Mob?

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/darrell-issa-irs-lois-lerner-91755.html

[Lloyd]

In article <MPG.2c06f508c...@news.giganews.com>,

Probably learned from Oliver North.

[Moderate]

Lloyd <lloydp...@me.com> Wrote in message:

> In article <MPG.2c06f508c...@news.giganews.com>,
> BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <b04h5t...@mid.individual.net>, mnmi...@aol.com says...

Oliver North is a hero.
--

[golfbum18]

On May 22, 2:30 pm, MNMikeW <mnmiik...@aol.com> wrote:
> This is as big a bullshit line as "hope and change".
>

> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2329067/Congress-hosts-IRS-bl...

waaaaaa waaa waaaa. Losers really stink but there is no stench like a
sore one. Whew!

[Carbon]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 18:14:40 -0500, Moderate wrote:

> Oliver North is a hero.

The comedy keeps on comin'.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

A hero who was convicted, sentenced and fined for felonies. Because
of a prosecution al error the sentences were reversed.

A real hero.

[Lloyd]

In article <knjjgr$gkk$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,

He was, then he wasn't.

[Moderate]

bkn...@conramp.net Wrote in message:

> On Wed, 22 May 2013 23:16:03 +0000 (UTC), Carbon
> <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 22 May 2013 18:14:40 -0500, Moderate wrote:

All convictions were reversed.

Silver Star, Bronze Star with V, two Purple Hearts.

You? A legacy immigrant.
--

[Moderate]

Lloyd <lloydp...@me.com> Wrote in message:
> In article <knjjgr$gkk$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,
> Moderate <no_spam@no_mail.com> wrote:
>
>> Lloyd <lloydp...@me.com> Wrote in message:

He was and is.
--

[Carbon]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 20:21:02 -0500, Moderate wrote:
> Lloyd <lloydp...@me.com> Wrote in message:
>> In article <knjjgr$gkk$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,
>> Moderate <no_spam@no_mail.com> wrote:
>>> Lloyd <lloydp...@me.com> Wrote in message:
>
> He was and is.

And which do you think was more heroic, illegally selling arms to rogue
states or supporting drug cartels and dictators in South America?

[Moderate]

Carbon <nob...@nospam.tampabay.rr.com> Wrote in message:

> On Wed, 22 May 2013 20:21:02 -0500, Moderate wrote:
>> Lloyd <lloydp...@me.com> Wrote in message:

I think making false claims about someone is cowardly. You own that.
--

[KenPitts]

On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 8:21:02 PM UTC-5, Moderate wrote:
> Lloyd <lloydp...@me.com> Wrote in message:
>
> > In article <knjjgr$gkk$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,
>
> > Moderate <no_spam@no_mail.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> Lloyd <lloydp...@me.com> Wrote in message:
>
>
>
> He was and is.
>
> --

What he did to the Iranians was something out of Jack and the Beanstalk.

Ken

[KenPitts]

North was supporting the Contras. I guess you prefer Daniel Ortega and the Communist Sandinistas. Arms? He duped the Iranians and sold them worthless junk. God bless him.

Ken

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 20:21:02 -0500 (CDT), Moderate

<no_spam@no_mail.com> wrote:

>Lloyd <lloydp...@me.com> Wrote in message:
>> In article <knjjgr$gkk$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,
>> Moderate <no_spam@no_mail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Lloyd <lloydp...@me.com> Wrote in message:
>
>He was and is.

He's a criminal who got away with it. Your kind of guy.

[Moderate]

bkn...@conramp.net Wrote in message:

> On Wed, 22 May 2013 20:21:02 -0500 (CDT), Moderate
> <no_spam@no_mail.com> wrote:
>
>>Lloyd <lloydp...@me.com> Wrote in message:

The apologist speaks.
--

[Carbon]

North convicted of lying to Congress, destroying evidence and taking
bribes. Please tell us how these crimes were heroic.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 21:01:59 -0500 (CDT), Moderate

<no_spam@no_mail.com> wrote:

>bkn...@conramp.net Wrote in message:
>> On Wed, 22 May 2013 20:21:02 -0500 (CDT), Moderate
>> <no_spam@no_mail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Lloyd <lloydp...@me.com> Wrote in message:
>
>The apologist speaks.

The low-life should listen.

[MNMikeW]

Obama managed to do both during Fast&Furious, LOL!!!

[golfbum18]

On May 22, 7:14 pm, Moderate <no_spam@no_mail.com> wrote:
> Lloyd <lloydpars...@me.com> Wrote in message:
>
> > In article <MPG.2c06f508ce7b9969989...@news.giganews.com>,
> >  BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:
>
> >> In article <b04h5tFi33...@mid.individual.net>, mnmiik...@aol.com says...

>
> Oliver North is a hero.
> --

That is demeaning and belittles heroes everywhere.

[golfbum18]

On May 22, 9:20 pm, Moderate <no_spam@no_mail.com> wrote:
> bkni...@conramp.net Wrote in message:

Just because he's a flaming conservative and fox noise network shill.
Funny you didn't bring up John Kerry's medals.

[gpsman]

On May 22, 2:30 pm, MNMikeW <mnmiik...@aol.com> wrote:

> This is as big a bullshit line as "hope and change".
>

> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2329067/Congress-hosts-IRS-bl...

No more bullshitty than this:
'Think about it,' [Issa] continued: 'For more than a year, the IRS
knew that it had inappropriately targeted groups of Americans based on
their political beliefs...'

That really has not been made clear.

Groups of "Americans" chose political names for their purported
"charities", which should draw scrutiny.

"American Crossroads" says:
"The people who started and support American Crossroads are united
behind three simple convictions:

First, we can’t keep going on like this. Something’s got to give.

Second, America deserves better than this. Our kids deserve a better
future than this.

And third, it’s up to us to bring the change about. No one else is
going to do it for us.

So what do we at American Crossroads do about it? We raise money from
a whole lot of volunteer donors all across the country. And we spend
it to promote people who have the courage, integrity and good ideas to
get this country back on track."
http://www.americancrossroads.org/about/

No mention of charitable intent or actions on that page...
-----

- gpsman

[KenPitts]

Kerry is the real traitor. He should not be able to be elected dog catcher, much less be Secretary of State. He falsely testified to the Senate about his comrades in VietNam, passing along rumors. He was part of the VietNam Veterans Against the War. He may have been present when they were planning assassinations. Possibly guilty of conspiracy. He met with the North Vietnamese in Paris while still a naval officer and while Dr Kissinger was officially negotiating with them. Seditious. He also published this piece of shit.

http://johnkerry-08.com/new_soldier.php

Ken

[Alan Baker]

In article <d5c56f6e-78d2-4371...@googlegroups.com>,

Fascinating that you call someone who was never convicted of anything a
"real traitor" while giving a pass--morally and ethically--to someone
who was clearly guilty, convicted, and then only had his convictions
overturned due to having been granted immunity for the things he had
ADMITTED doing.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

[KenPitts]

On Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:06:20 PM UTC-5, gpsman wrote:

Well, well. Now it appears the supposedly "rogue" IRS office was getting direction from inside the beltway. Leave it to UK media to dig out the real story while our media continue to carry water for this president. It is time to remove Obama and all his henchmen from office - NOW.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2334736/IRS-employee-congressional-interviews-tea-party-targeting-Washington-DC-wanted-cases---I-sent-seven.html

Ken

[MNMikeW]

The rogue assholes in the white house started this.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

"The White House" is a pretty vague term. You're really hoping
though. We'll see.

[MNMikeW]

We will see how many more interviews or documents are released before
Obama goes to the executive privilege and shuts it down like in F&F.

[gpsman]

On Jun 2, 3:12 pm, KenPitts <ken.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:06:20 PM UTC-5, gpsman wrote:
>
> Well, well. Now it appears the supposedly "rogue" IRS office was getting direction from inside the beltway. Leave it to UK media to dig out the real story while our media continue to carry water for this president. It is time to remove Obama and all his henchmen from office - NOW.
>

> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2334736/IRS-employee-congress...

[Interviews with IRS employees have established that the Washington,
D.C. headquarters of the Internal Revenue Service was engaged in
targeting tea party groups and other conservative organizations for
unfair levels of scrutiny when they applied for tax-exempt status.]

The premise is false; "unfair" is subjective, and it certainly isn't
illegal.
-----

- gpsman

[bkn...@conramp.net]

You're wishing again.

[MNMikeW]

No, I want the truth. You just want to cover Obama's ass. Once this gets
too close for comfort for Obama, he will indeed shut it down. He has
does this before.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

Remember that you can't read minds Mike. It's a wish that you're
hoping for though, which I find to be repugnant. Hell, as much as I
loathed Nixon I didn't want it to be true that a president was
crooked.

I'm sure we'll find the truth but it's beyond me to even think that
something this petty would come from the Oval office.

[John B.]

Prove it.

[gpsman]

On Jun 3, 12:29 pm, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:
>
> I'm sure we'll find the truth but it's beyond me to even think that
> something this petty would come from the Oval office.

The premise is preposterous.

There is nothing suspicious about selecting for scrutiny 501(c)(4)s
purported to be primarily charitable organizations, who have decidedly
political names who, on their "About" pages, mention nothing about
charitable intent, and everything is politically oriented.

What this manufactroversy seems intended to accomplish is to divert
attention from their obvious lack of qualifications to exist as 501(c)
(4)s.

Issa doth protest way too much, methinks.

I got it! He must be the leader of the conspiracy to help these
obvious tax dodges for the rich escape prosecution!!!

It's so often the pig that squeals loudest who is hoist with his own
petard.
-----

- gpsman

[John B.]

Let me make sure I've got this straight. You're saying the
president of the United States ordered the Cincinnati
regional office of the IRS to target and harass conservative
non-profits that applied for tax-exempt status?

[John B.]

Issa's a thug.

[MNMikeW]

They are working on it as we speak.

[MNMikeW]

I think this is exactly the stuff Obama would engage in. He is a Chicago
politician after all.

[MNMikeW]

Oh, Issa's the problem. LOL!!

[MNMikeW]

You really think only Cincinnati was involved? LOL! You really need to
pay more attention.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

No, he either doesn't have the balls to actually come out and say it
because he knows how idiotic that is.

It's just easier to throw out implications.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

Nice Dodge Mike. Answer the question.

[MNMikeW]

Dodge? Jesus you are dense. You also might pay closer attention to this.
Like sworn testimony from the Cincinnati players today. And the lawsuit.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/13/lawyers-targeting-of-conservatives-more-vast-than-just-cincinnati-also-involved-d-c-office/

http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/28/18563008-irs-higher-ups-requested-info-on-conservative-groups-letters-show?lite

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 15:57:22 -0500, MNMikeW <mnmi...@aol.com> wrote:

>bkn...@conramp.net wrote:
>> On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 12:54:32 -0500, MNMikeW <mnmi...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> John B. wrote:
>>>> On Monday, June 3, 2013 12:21:54 PM UTC-4, MNMikeW wrote:
>>
>>>> Let me make sure I've got this straight. You're saying the
>>>> president of the United States ordered the Cincinnati
>>>> regional office of the IRS to target and harass conservative
>>>> non-profits that applied for tax-exempt status?
>>>>
>>> You really think only Cincinnati was involved? LOL! You really need to
>>> pay more attention.
>>
>> Nice Dodge Mike. Answer the question.
>>
>Dodge?

Damned right, dodge.

>Jesus you are dense.

Not as dense as you. Where in those links is it said that the POTUS
ordered anyone to target conservative non-profits that applied for
tax-exempt status?
That was the question that you were asked and then DODGED Mike.

Try to stay on point.

[John B.]

In other words, you have no proof or evidence whatsoever for your
assertion that it all started in the White House.

[John B.]

Why don't you take a little time to enlighten yourself
about his past? I have. He's a thug.

[John B.]

Just answer the question, Mike.

[MNMikeW]

Well, we are up to the IRS office in DC. Will see where it leads from there.

[MNMikeW]

LOL! Obama was a pothead and did cocaine. Is he also a thug? John,
during your enlightenment on Issa. What was he convicted of exactly?

[MNMikeW]

bkn...@conramp.net wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 15:57:22 -0500, MNMikeW <mnmi...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> bkn...@conramp.net wrote:
>>> On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 12:54:32 -0500, MNMikeW <mnmi...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> John B. wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, June 3, 2013 12:21:54 PM UTC-4, MNMikeW wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Let me make sure I've got this straight. You're saying the
>>>>> president of the United States ordered the Cincinnati
>>>>> regional office of the IRS to target and harass conservative
>>>>> non-profits that applied for tax-exempt status?
>>>>>
>>>> You really think only Cincinnati was involved? LOL! You really need to
>>>> pay more attention.
>>>
>>> Nice Dodge Mike. Answer the question.
>>>
>> Dodge?
>
> Damned right, dodge.
>
>> Jesus you are dense.
>
> Not as dense as you. Where in those links is it said that the POTUS
> ordered anyone to target conservative non-profits that applied for
> tax-exempt status?
> That was the question that you were asked and then DODGED Mike.

I'm going to say this real slow for you you dumbfuck. John seems to be
under the impression that Cincinnati was the only office that did this.
It was not. That's what the links show. As for the POTUS part, we do not
know that yet.

>
> Try to stay on point.

F U prick.

[MNMikeW]

The people in Cincinnati followed orders from DC. We will have to see
from who.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

You have yet to answer the simple question that he asked.
Here it is again.

>>>> Let me make sure I've got this straight. You're saying the
>>>> president of the United States ordered the Cincinnati
>>>> regional office of the IRS to target and harass conservative
>>>> non-profits that applied for tax-exempt status?

Try not to waffle any more.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

That has absolutely nothing to do with the question that he asked and
you continue to tap dance around. Have some balls and answer it.

>>
>> Try to stay on point.
>
>F U prick.

LOL. The same as crickets.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

Another no answer. You do know how to read don't you. It was a
simple question.

ROFL

[KenPitts]

On Monday, June 3, 2013 3:05:05 PM UTC-5, bkn...@conramp.net wrote:
>
> No, he either doesn't have the balls to actually come out and say it
>
> because he knows how idiotic that is.
>
>
>
> It's just easier to throw out implications.

All the leftists in RSG are spinning like tops to defend this president. Which Dem will have the integrity to come forward like Howard Baker did and say we cannot support you any more?

Ken

[gpsman]

On Jun 3, 6:02 pm, MNMikeW <mnmiik...@aol.com> wrote:

> bkni...@conramp.net wrote:
>
> I'm going to say this real slow for you you dumbfuck. John seems to be
> under the impression that Cincinnati was the only office that did this.
> It was not. That's what the links show.

No, it isn't:

"According to the lawyers, the practice was more vast and included IRS
officials in Washington, D.C."

You don't understand the difference in allegation and fact.

"At least one letter requesting information about one of the groups
bears the signature of Lois Lerner, the suspended director of the IRS
Exempt Organizations department in Washington."

The director of the IRS Exempt Organizations department requested
information about one of the groups???

Holy shit, what business could the director of the IRS Exempt
Organizations department have requesting information on a purported
IRS Exempt group?!?!?

"Jay Sekulow, an attorney representing 27 conservative political
advocacy organizations that applied to the Internal Revenue Service
for tax-exempt status, provided some of the letters to NBC News. He
said the groups’ contacts with the IRS prove that the practices went
beyond a few “front line” employees in the Cincinnati office, as the
IRS has maintained."

That's allegation, based on this bullshit:

"“We've dealt with 15 agents, including tax law specialists -- that's
lawyers -- from four different offices, including (the) Treasury
(Department) in Washington, D.C.,” Sekulow said. “So the idea that
this is a couple of rogue agents in Cincinnati is not correct.”

That is among the grossest non sequiturs ever uttered.

They've "dealt with". I imagine the top IRS lawyers they would be
dealing with would be in DC.

But, never before in history has it been so easy to fool so many
people all of the time.

Enjoy your conspiracy, it will all come to nothing... but they did
manage to ruin the reputation and career of Lerner, for nothing, so I
guess you have every right to enjoy that feather in your cap.
-----

- gpsman

[KenPitts]

Her reputation deserves to be destroyed for loudly proclaiming that she did nothing wrong to Congress, then taking the Fifth.

Ken

[la...@pivotforpower.com]

Issa said they are receiving inquiries from MANY "low level" IRS employees eager to report on their superiors. I love it. Finally a few are going to do what Peggy Noonan suggested, "stand up and say, "what you want me to do is wrong!" And refuse to target people and organizations because their political philosophy is different from the Presidents'

Of course in a civil service organization such insubordination would be instant termination of a career, loss of retirement, etc. So they don't do that.

But they can anonymously report to the congress- and when their numbers are large enough, they need not fear retribution. That is happening!

It will be fun to watch. The chain will undoubtedly extend to the White House, Vallerie Jarrett, Plough, Axelrod, and eventually Obama, who was probably too stupid to understand what they were doing. But he is the president and he is responsible.

Larry
t o

[KenPitts]

On Monday, June 3, 2013 8:07:07 PM UTC-5, la...@pivotforpower.com wrote:
>
>
> Issa said they are receiving inquiries from MANY "low level" IRS employees eager to report on their superiors. I love it. Finally a few are going to do what Peggy Noonan suggested, "stand up and say, "what you want me to do is wrong!" And refuse to target people and organizations because their political philosophy is different from the Presidents'
>
>
>
> Of course in a civil service organization such insubordination would be instant termination of a career, loss of retirement, etc. So they don't do that.
>
>
>
> But they can anonymously report to the congress- and when their numbers are large enough, they need not fear retribution. That is happening!
>
>
>
> It will be fun to watch. The chain will undoubtedly extend to the White House, Vallerie Jarrett, Plough, Axelrod, and eventually Obama, who was probably too stupid to understand what they were doing. But he is the president and he is responsible.
>
>
>
> Larry
>
> t o

Larry, exactly.

Ken

[BAR]

In article <66b8b3b9-4fab-4405...@googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com
says...

>
> On Monday, June 3, 2013 11:31:21 AM UTC-4, MNMikeW wrote:
> > KenPitts wrote:
> >
> > > On Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:06:20 PM UTC-5, gpsman wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Well, well. Now it appears the supposedly "rogue" IRS office was getting direction from inside the beltway. Leave it to UK media to dig out the real story while our media continue to carry water for this president. It is time to remove Obama and all his henchmen from office - NOW.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2334736/IRS-employee-congressional-interviews-tea-party-targeting-Washington-DC-wanted-cases---I-sent-seven.html
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Ken
> >
> > >
> >
> > The rogue assholes in the white house started this.
>

> Prove it.

They are working proving it. One-hundred fifty-seven visits to the White House by your buddy
Dougie is going to be key in the investigation.

[BAR]

In article <f256e164-8d55-4c7c...@googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com
says...

You can't say for certain that it didn't originate in the White House.

[BAR]

In article <01958538-2ef4-4def...@googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com
says...
>

> On Monday, June 3, 2013 1:34:29 PM UTC-4, gpsman wrote:
> > On Jun 3, 12:29 pm, bkni...@conramp.net wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I'm sure we'll find the truth but it's beyond me to even think that
> >
> > > something this petty would come from the Oval office.
> >
> >
> >
> > The premise is preposterous.
> >
> >
> >
> > There is nothing suspicious about selecting for scrutiny 501(c)(4)s
> >
> > purported to be primarily charitable organizations, who have decidedly
> >
> > political names who, on their "About" pages, mention nothing about
> >
> > charitable intent, and everything is politically oriented.
> >
> >
> >
> > What this manufactroversy seems intended to accomplish is to divert
> >
> > attention from their obvious lack of qualifications to exist as 501(c)
> >
> > (4)s.
> >
> >
> >
> > Issa doth protest way too much, methinks.
> >
> >
> >
> > I got it! He must be the leader of the conspiracy to help these
> >
> > obvious tax dodges for the rich escape prosecution!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > It's so often the pig that squeals loudest who is hoist with his own
> >
> > petard.
> >
> > -----
> Issa's a thug.

When the Democrat's held the House who on the Democrat side were the thugs?

[BAR]

In article <064d2f1f-b9b9-4b3c...@googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com
says...

He is the duly elected Representative of his district and by the House's rules he is the
Chairman of the committee. You might want to call him a thug but, when you are sitting in the
witness chair address him as Mr. Chairman.

[BAR]

In article <b143io...@mid.individual.net>, mnmi...@aol.com says...

You will have to excuse John's lack of knowledge about chain of command and taking orders. It
isn't just a military thing.

[Alan Baker]

In article <d8cd91bd-d5a9-4017...@googlegroups.com>,

And Donald Trump was going to expose how Obama wasn't born in Hawaii. He
"had the goods", remember?

:-)

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."

[Don Kirkman]

Likewise, you can't say it did.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net

[Alan Baker]

In article <b5ad6d86-13da-4563...@googlegroups.com>,

Riiiiiiight.

It couldn't have been that he was passed over by Nixon for a spot on the
supreme court...

...and the fact that Nixon was pretty obviously going down.

[Alan Baker]

In article <b14htt...@mid.individual.net>,

"His campaign fell apart after a burst of investigative reporting raised
serious questions about his honesty and his past. Many politicians have
committed indiscretions in earlier years: maybe they had an affair or
hired an illegal immigrant as a nanny. Issa, it turned out, had, among
other things, been indicted for stealing a car, arrested for carrying a
concealed weapon, and accused by former associates of burning down a
building."

<http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/01/24/110124fa_fact_lizza?curren
tPage=all>

[gpsman]

> Her reputation deserves to be destroyed for loudly proclaiming that she did nothing wrong to Congress, then taking the Fifth.

I forgot the Constitution of The United States does not apply to
members of the Obama administration.

My bad.
-----

- gpsman

[John B.]

I never said he was convicted of anything. You know, Mike, you can spend
your whole life within the bounds of the law and still be a scumbag. BTW,
was Obama convicted?

[jay birdsong]

"Alan Baker" wrote in message
news:alangbaker-99DF5...@news.shawcable.net...

And the worthless POS Alwin Baker, cannot stop his obsession with
stalking Larry. What a useless Turd. No life, no wife, no job, no
money, and he is closed up in a 400 sq. ft. roach infested shitbox
apartment 24/7.

[John B.]

[BAR]

In article <8866a29a-52f4-486f...@googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com
says...

What is your definition of a thug?

[John B.]

No, I can't. But Mike and you have said for certain that it did. With no
evidence to back it up. It's really funny watching republicans climb all
over each other trying to pin this mini-scandal directly on Obama. Meanwhile,
most Americans couldn't care less about it. Obama's approval rating
is 54% and the Republican party's is 38%.

[John B.]

You tell me.

[MNMikeW]

Glad you see the light.

[MNMikeW]

From what I've seen so far, Obama is NOT responsible for ANYTHING that
happens in his administration.

[MNMikeW]

bkn...@conramp.net wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Jun 2013 16:57:45 -0500, MNMikeW <mnmi...@aol.com> wrote:

>
>> John B. wrote:
>>> On Monday, June 3, 2013 1:49:19 PM UTC-4, MNMikeW wrote:
>>>> John B. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, June 3, 2013 11:31:21 AM UTC-4, MNMikeW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> KenPitts wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:06:20 PM UTC-5, gpsman wrote:
>>>>
>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, well. Now it appears the supposedly "rogue" IRS office was getting direction from inside the beltway. Leave it to UK media to dig out the real story while our media continue to carry water for this president. It is time to remove Obama and all his henchmen from office - NOW.
>
>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2334736/IRS-employee-congressional-interviews-tea-party-targeting-Washington-DC-wanted-cases---I-sent-seven.html
>
>>>>>>> Ken
>
>>>>
>>>>>> The rogue assholes in the white house started this.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Prove it.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They are working on it as we speak.
>>>
>>> In other words, you have no proof or evidence whatsoever for your
>>> assertion that it all started in the White House.
>>>

>> Well, we are up to the IRS office in DC. Will see where it leads from there.
>

> You have yet to answer the simple question that he asked.
> Here it is again.

>>>>> Let me make sure I've got this straight. You're saying the
>>>>> president of the United States ordered the Cincinnati
>>>>> regional office of the IRS to target and harass conservative
>>>>> non-profits that applied for tax-exempt status?
>

> Try not to waffle any more.
>
Try not to be an asshole, I know its hard for you. Did the POTUS order
Cincinnati to do it? No. Did he order the DC office to do it? We will
find out. Happy asswipe?

[MNMikeW]

Not yet. I'm sure when the heat gets too close for comfort the exec.
priv. will be deployed.

[MNMikeW]

No you can't. But Don, answer me this. Just who would benefit from
having conservative groups funding mechanisms virtually shutdown during
an election?

[Alan Baker]

In article <kokk7s$5go$1...@dont-email.me>,

"jay birdsong" <jaybi...@aol.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-99DF5...@news.shawcable.net...
>
> And the worthless POS Alwin Baker, cannot stop his obsession with
> stalking Larry.

So sort of like you "stalking" me from group to group, Michael?

> What a useless Turd. No life, no wife, no job, no
> money, and he is closed up in a 400 sq. ft. roach infested shitbox
> apartment 24/7.

You mean other than when I'm working on my race car...

...or driving it...

...or playing hockey...

...or playing golf...

...or skiing...

...or even working some...

...right?

[MNMikeW]

John B. wrote:
> On Monday, June 3, 2013 10:03:15 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote:
>> In article <f256e164-8d55-4c7c...@googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com
>>
>> says...
>>
>>>
>>
>>> On Monday, June 3, 2013 1:49:19 PM UTC-4, MNMikeW wrote:
>>
>>>> John B. wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>> On Monday, June 3, 2013 11:31:21 AM UTC-4, MNMikeW wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>> KenPitts wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:06:20 PM UTC-5, gpsman wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> Well, well. Now it appears the supposedly "rogue" IRS office was getting direction from inside the beltway. Leave it to UK media to dig out the real story while our media continue to carry water for this president. It is time to remove Obama and all his henchmen from office - NOW.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2334736/IRS-employee-congressional-interviews-tea-party-targeting-Washington-DC-wanted-cases---I-sent-seven.html
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>> Ken
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>> The rogue assholes in the white house started this.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>> Prove it.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> They are working on it as we speak.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> In other words, you have no proof or evidence whatsoever for your
>>
>>> assertion that it all started in the White House.
>>
>>
>>
>> You can't say for certain that it didn't originate in the White House.
>
> No, I can't. But Mike and you have said for certain that it did.

For certain, no. That is my take on it.

With no
> evidence to back it up. It's really funny watching republicans climb all
> over each other trying to pin this mini-scandal directly on Obama. Meanwhile,
> most Americans couldn't care less about it. Obama's approval rating
> is 54% and the Republican party's is 38%.
>

Yes, John. I'm sure this would be a mini-scandal if this were done to
liberal groups. Obama's approval rating took a hit due to this. You
might want to look into it. Also, a majority of people polled want a
special prosecutor for this. So, people do care. Liberals dont of course.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

That wasn't hard was it?
(**It really was.**)

> Did he order the DC office to do it? We will
>find out. Happy asswipe?

Now that's a better way to get your feelings out, no definite
outlandish charge that you have to back up.

[jay birdsong]

"Alan Baker" wrote in message

news:alangbaker-56018...@news.shawcable.net...

nothing but lying obfuscation.

yawwwwnnnnnnnnnnn...what a boring turd. Time to flush.

[Don Kirkman]

I thought that it's been reported that (1) the "tea party" types were
only a small part of those selected for closer scrutiny and (2) some
seemingly liberal groups were included.

I don't spend my days watching news or reading blogs, so I may be
wrong, but until I'm sure I'm not going to read things into the media
frenzy.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net

[MNMikeW]

Can you cite where this was reported? I believe no liberal groups were
put through the screwtiny like the conservatives were. Yes "Tea Party"
was only a part of the keywords they used. They also used, 9/12,
constitution, limited government, ect. I've yet to see a single liberal
group that was subjected to this.

>
> I don't spend my days watching news or reading blogs, so I may be
> wrong, but until I'm sure I'm not going to read things into the media
> frenzy.
>

The testimony of the Cincinnati agents today would probably be a good
place to start. They didn't seem to take too kindly to being thrown
under the bus by the Obama administration.

[John B.]

> >>
>
Well, well. Now it appears the supposedly "rogue" IRS office was getting direction from inside the beltway. Leave it to UK media to dig out the real story while our media continue to carry water for this president. It is time to remove Obama and all his henchmen from office - NOW.
>
> >>
>
> >>>>
>
> >>
>
> >>>>>>
>
> >>
>
> >>>>
>
> >>
>
> >>>>>>>
>
> >>
>
> >>>>
>
> >>
>
> >>>>>>
>
> >>
>
> >>>>
>
> >>
>
> >>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2334736/IRS-employee-congressional-interviews-tea-party-targeting-Washington-DC-wanted-cases---I-sent-seven.html
> >>
>

> >>>>>> The rogue assholes in the white house started this.
>

> >>>> They are working on it as we speak.
>
> >>
>
> >>>
>
> >>
>
> >>> In other words, you have no proof or evidence whatsoever for your
>
> >>
>
> >>> assertion that it all started in the White House.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> You can't say for certain that it didn't originate in the White House.
>
> >
>
> > No, I can't. But Mike and you have said for certain that it did.
>
>
>
> For certain, no. That is my take on it.
>
>
>
> With no
>
> > evidence to back it up. It's really funny watching republicans climb all
>
> > over each other trying to pin this mini-scandal directly on Obama. Meanwhile,
>
> > most Americans couldn't care less about it. Obama's approval rating
>
> > is 54% and the Republican party's is 38%.
>
> >
>
> Yes, John. I'm sure this would be a mini-scandal if this were done to
>
> liberal groups. Obama's approval rating took a hit due to this. You
>
> might want to look into it. Also, a majority of people polled want a
>
> special prosecutor for this. So, people do care. Liberals dont of course.

There are scandals of varying degrees of seriousness in every administration.
Relatively speaking, this one is pretty small potatoes.

[John B.]

During the period under investigation, ONE group was denied tax-exempt
status because of its political activities. And it was a liberal group.

[MNMikeW]

LOL! You are SO predictable.

[MNMikeW]

Cite please. Of course you don't think holding up applications for over
3 years constitutes a denial.

[Don Kirkman]

No, I can't, but that's beside the point because I didn't say it had
been. I said I thought it had been.

>I believe no liberal groups were
>put through the screwtiny like the conservatives were. Yes "Tea Party"
>was only a part of the keywords they used. They also used, 9/12,
>constitution, limited government, ect. I've yet to see a single liberal
>group that was subjected to this.

Have you been reading media from all sides of the issue? GIGO.

>> I don't spend my days watching news or reading blogs, so I may be
>> wrong, but until I'm sure I'm not going to read things into the media
>> frenzy.

>The testimony of the Cincinnati agents today would probably be a good
>place to start. They didn't seem to take too kindly to being thrown
>under the bus by the Obama administration.

Maybe we could agree to spend the whole day watching on CSPAN or
whatever major channel it's on. Right now I'm at the keyboard, and so
far can't figure out how to be in two places at once.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net

[BAR]

In article <0c6a0322-aa49-42a8...@googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com

We have alluded to it originating in the White House. The evidence points in that direction.
What's the numbrer on the Shulman bottle? 157!

[BAR]

In article <01047cf3-7010-4a0d...@googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com
says...

The scandal is still on-going and there and many groups who are still in a pending state due
to no approval or disapproval of their application. You do know what "slow walking" means,
don't you?

[BAR]

In article <eba161b8-dadb-4e1f...@googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com

You are the one who professes to be the arbiter of thugy-ness.

[MNMikeW]

I've yet to see any evidence this happened even once.

>
>> I believe no liberal groups were
>> put through the screwtiny like the conservatives were. Yes "Tea Party"
>> was only a part of the keywords they used. They also used, 9/12,
>> constitution, limited government, ect. I've yet to see a single liberal
>> group that was subjected to this.
>
> Have you been reading media from all sides of the issue? GIGO.

I have been watching the hearings and both sides of news. predictably,
Fox covers it as real news, the left leaning news (the rest of them),
covers it as "republican overreach" and a non-issue. Of course, had this
happened to a Republican, this would be getting wall to wall coverage
and it would be a HUGE deal. No media bias, lol!

>
>>> I don't spend my days watching news or reading blogs, so I may be
>>> wrong, but until I'm sure I'm not going to read things into the media
>>> frenzy.
>
>> The testimony of the Cincinnati agents today would probably be a good
>> place to start. They didn't seem to take too kindly to being thrown
>> under the bus by the Obama administration.
>
> Maybe we could agree to spend the whole day watching on CSPAN or
> whatever major channel it's on. Right now I'm at the keyboard, and so
> far can't figure out how to be in two places at once.
>

Ever hear of a laptop? ;-)

[BAR]

In article <dd7db67b-6535-4241...@googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com
says...

So far the White House is working off of the plausible deniability excuse. Somebody is going
to crack and when that happens the flood gates are going to swing open violently.

[MNMikeW]

Lerner's signature is all over this mess. I hope they call her back and
she squeals like a stuck pig.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

Mike was finally persuaded to say that "no" to what you've alluded
to. There's no proof. There could have been 1,000 IRS visits to the
White House with nothing being said about this. There are other
things to talk about.

I suppose you're not smart enough to admit it though.

[bkn...@conramp.net]

That's so old, lame and expected.
>>

[bkn...@conramp.net]

On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 18:10:32 -0400, BAR <sc...@you.com> wrote:

>In article <dd7db67b-6535-4241...@googlegroups.com>, john...@gmail.com
>says...

>> In other words, you have no proof or evidence whatsoever for your
>> assertion that it all started in the White House.
>
>So far the White House is working off of the plausible deniability excuse. Somebody is going
>to crack and when that happens the flood gates are going to swing open violently.

Your crystal ball speaking I guess. That's your wish, but you just
may not get it.