Parole Tide!

[unclejr]

Let the majick commence!

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20191143/alabama-crimson-tide-dl-dashawn-hand-charged-driving-influence

[Futbol Phan]

On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 10:33:32 PM UTC-5, unclejr wrote:
> Let the majick commence!
>
> http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20191143/alabama-crimson-tide-dl-dashawn-hand-charged-driving-influence

If he had picked Michigan over Bama as expected, Brady Hoke might well have gotten another year and the Harbaugh Show would never have happened.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

I'll wait to see if he is guilty as charged to voice an opinion.
Forming one now is too biased for me.

Hugh


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[irishra...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 11:33:32 PM UTC-4, unclejr wrote:
> Let the majick commence!
>
> http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20191143/alabama-crimson-tide-dl-dashawn-hand-charged-driving-influence

"Alabama defensive lineman Da'Shawn Hand was arrested and charged with driving under the influence on Saturday morning in Tuscaloosa."

But was his pick-up truck damaged?

Irish Mike

[unclejr]

Dude. Bama players drive Challengers.

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 10:33:32 PM UTC-5, unclejr wrote:

> Let the majick commence!
>
> http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20191143/alabama-crimson-tide-dl-dashawn-hand-charged-driving-influence

Parole Tide.....that's top-notch, right there

[unclejr]

You forgot to add the phrase, "I don't care who you are."

[michael anderson]

On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 10:58:43 PM UTC-5, Futbol Phan wrote:
> On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 10:33:32 PM UTC-5, unclejr wrote:
> > Let the majick commence!
> >

> > http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20191143/alabcrimsoharbn-tide-dl-dashawn-hand-charged-driving-influence

>
> If he had picked Michigan over Bama as expected, Brady Hoke might well have gotten another year and the Harbaugh Show would never have happened.

by 'harbaugh show', do you mean him running his mouth a lot for two seasons at coaches and programs who were busy going to final fours, beating his ass, and winning a national championship? Serious question.

[Some dued]

Aren't you glad you didn't quit your job in order to go watch Nick Saban win his last National Championship?

[michael anderson]

On Sunday, July 30, 2017 at 1:11:25 PM UTC-5, Some dued wrote:
> Aren't you glad you didn't quit your job in order to go watch Nick Saban win his last National Championship?

reading comprehension is important- the question wasn't whether to quit...it was whether to pay someone a ton of money to cover for me.

As for the second part, you cant win every single damn national title. We'll have to settle for one this upcoming year instead.

[Some dued]

You couldn't find anyone to cover so you were asking us whether you should just say screw it. I guess you forgot.

[agavi...@gmail.com]

DUI'Shawn.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

Comprehension is more important than that.

He probably meant, but doesn't do English well, "to see him lose the
NC" last year.

Bama finished second - that's as good as liberals in the presidential
election. And Bama had tougher competition.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

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It has been ever since Bear integrated Bama. AFAIK no white player has
been arrested for an NCAA or civil infraction.

The facts make it racist, not me.

Hugh

[Some dued]

The fact that "as far as I know" ... Yeah.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 18:19:07 -0700 (PDT), Some dued
<theodo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>The fact that "as far as I know" ... Yeah.

Thank you for trying, Miss Understanding.

I await further knowledge which, of course, could not possibly come
from you.

You, Fut and wolfie must be the result of a failed lab breeding
experiment some years ago. Messrs. Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest - Jeckyll
and Hyde II.

Hugh

[unclejr]

We?

[agavi...@gmail.com]

Well,
He isn't a starter.

BUT HES ON THE TEAM!!!111

[Some dued]

As far as I know, Hugh's a Yeti.
Don't blame me, its the facts.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

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The story has changed...

Hand was parked, keys in ignition but asleep. That may be UI but it's
not DUI.

This is not to excuse Hand - I have never found an acceptable excuse
for being drunk.

He's not guilty yet, no matter how much losers want him to be.

Hugh

[unclejr]

Was he asleep in a Challenger? Asking for a friend.

[wolfie]

"J. Hugh Sullivan" wrote

> Hand was parked, keys in ignition but asleep. That may be UI but it's
> not DUI.

Alabama Code Title 32-5A-191

"(a) A person shall not drive or be in actual physical control of any
vehicle while:

(1) There is 0.08 percent or more by weight of alcohol in his or her blood;

(2) Under the influence of alcohol; ..."

[xyzzy]

Legally that's not defense. I have a friend who over 25 years ago was convicted of DUI. He had got in his car, started it, and passed out. Never drove an inch. Never mind, legally he was operating a motor vehicle.

To his credit he didn't try to weasel out, took his lumps and is successful in life.

[michael anderson]

in alabama you dont even have to ever start it. You just have to have the keys on your person and be in the car.

[michael anderson]

On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 10:33:32 PM UTC-5, unclejr wrote:

> Let the majick commence!
>
> http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20191143/alabama-crimson-tide-dl-dashawn-hand-charged-driving-influence

hopefully he will be ready to go for the opener against FSU. We need him in the middle. A 1st half suspension for the second game of the year would seem to be an appropriate punishment.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

I doubt that anyone, even a Bama athlete, can "be in actual physical
control" while asleep.

I do know that some states say keys in the ignition is physical
control.

Seems like drunk black athletes should be covered by some sort of
Affirmative Action law like college admissions.

Hugh

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Thu, 3 Aug 2017 07:48:27 -0700 (PDT), xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I have posted what I think about drunks. Beyond that I will wait for
the court's decision.

Hugh

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

I want Bama to win that game. However, when it comes to breaking the
law, I have a problem with special treatment - even for Bama athletes.
And some on rsfc might think bypassing the first game would be special
with one exception - the second game is the start of the regular
season.

Hugh

[Michael Press]

In article <598243d8....@news.eternal-september.org>,

Ea...@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan) wrote:

> On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 20:33:29 -0700 (PDT), unclejr
> <wats...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Let the majick commence!
> >
> >http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20191143/alabama-crimson-tide-dl-dashawn-hand-charged-driving-influence
> >
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> >
> The story has changed...
>
> Hand was parked, keys in ignition but asleep. That may be UI but it's
> not DUI.

In some states it is legally DUI.
You need to check the Alabama code before going on.

--
Michael Press

[Michael Press]

In article <olthl6$rjj$1...@dont-email.me>, "wolfie" <bgbd...@gte.net>
wrote:

Thanks.

--
Michael Press

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 13:03:54 -0700, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net>
wrote:

D is for driving - he was not.

The law may convict him of DUI based on wording of the law. But he was
not driving (based on the report I read).

It's sorta like a gun is concealed if in the storage between the seats
but not in the glove compartment. In MS guns are concealed if in the
trunk.

Hugh

[michael anderson]

On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 5:14:41 PM UTC-5, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 13:03:54 -0700, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <598243d8....@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > Ea...@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan) wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 20:33:29 -0700 (PDT), unclejr
> >> <wats...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Let the majick commence!
> >> >
> >> >http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20191143/alabama-crimson-tide-dl-dashawn-hand-charged-driving-influence
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> The story has changed...
> >>
> >> Hand was parked, keys in ignition but asleep. That may be UI but it's
> >> not DUI.
> >
> >In some states it is legally DUI.
> >You need to check the Alabama code before going on.
> >
> >--
> >Michael Press
>
> D is for driving - he was not.
>
> The law may convict him of DUI based on wording of the law. But he was
> not driving (based on the report I read).

which saban took into account(that and his overall record) in deciding not to punish him with suspension.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Thu, 3 Aug 2017 17:30:37 -0700 (PDT), michael anderson
<miande...@gmail.com> wrote:


>> The law may convict him of DUI based on wording of the law. But he was
>> not driving (based on the report I read).
>
>which saban took into account(that and his overall record) in deciding not to punish him with suspension.

The latest is that the engine was running - which is still not
driving. However that is a very dangerous situation

Being a Bama fan I have to be on guard about Bama athletes being
treated differently under the law than athletes from other schools. At
the same time only an idiot would consider being asleep in a parked
car as driving. If no one else was around even public drunkeness would
be a stretch.

I don't see that Hand broke an intelligently worded law. But he did
act improperly and potentially endangered people. I think I would look
at it the same way if he was an athlete at any other school. Equal
treatment eliminates bias. Whether fans of other schools agree with me
has absolutely no influence on me.

Make him do community service. Embarass him publicly for his
stupidity. Take his driver's license for a period of time. Fining him
a few hundred dollars is meaningless. Let him play football.

Hugh

[Michael Press]

In article <59839e0f....@news.eternal-september.org>,

Ea...@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan) wrote:

> On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 13:03:54 -0700, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <598243d8....@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > Ea...@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan) wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 20:33:29 -0700 (PDT), unclejr
> >> <wats...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Let the majick commence!
> >> >
> >> >http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20191143/alabama-crimson-tide-dl-dashawn-hand-charged-driving-influence
> >> >
> >> >---
> >> >This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
> >> >http://www.avg.com
> >> >
> >> The story has changed...
> >>
> >> Hand was parked, keys in ignition but asleep. That may be UI but it's
> >> not DUI.
> >
> >In some states it is legally DUI.
> >You need to check the Alabama code before going on.
> >
> >--
> >Michael Press
>
> D is for driving - he was not.

The "D" is not in the code.

> The law may convict him of DUI based on wording of the law.

"DUI" is not in the wording of the law.

> But he was
> not driving (based on the report I read).

The charge has been explained to you.
Alabama Code Title 32-5A-191

--
Michael Press

[Michael Press]

In article <59846763....@news.eternal-september.org>,

Ea...@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan) wrote:

Then you acknowledge that the subject of the header
describes the situation.

--
Michael Press

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Fri, 04 Aug 2017 12:33:42 -0700, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net>
wrote:

>Then you acknowledge that the subject of the header
>describes the situation.

Not at all. Parole is a temporary release of a prisoner who agrees to
certain conditions before the completion of the maximum sentence
period.

But I think it was a clever subject.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Fri, 04 Aug 2017 12:31:32 -0700, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net>
wrote:

>The "D" is not in the code.
>
>> The law may convict him of DUI based on wording of the law.
>
>"DUI" is not in the wording of the law.

So the DUI charge is incorrect and will not hold up in court.

I was aware of the Alabama law in 1946. Where were you?

Hugh

[Michael Press]

In article <5984f6e6....@news.eternal-september.org>,

Ea...@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan) wrote:

> On Fri, 04 Aug 2017 12:33:42 -0700, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Then you acknowledge that the subject of the header
> >describes the situation.
>
> Not at all. Parole is a temporary release of a prisoner who agrees to
> certain conditions before the completion of the maximum sentence
> period.

Yes, community service is not parole.
Then again, community service can be
part of the terms of parole.

--
Michael Press

[Michael Press]

In article <5984f7c8....@news.eternal-september.org>,

Ea...@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan) wrote:

> On Fri, 04 Aug 2017 12:31:32 -0700, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> >The "D" is not in the code.
> >
> >> The law may convict him of DUI based on wording of the law.
> >
> >"DUI" is not in the wording of the law.
>
> So the DUI charge is incorrect and will not hold up in court.

DUI is not a charge.

> I was aware of the Alabama law in 1946. Where were you?

Beating you at checkers.

--
Michael Press

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Sat, 05 Aug 2017 11:54:21 -0700, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net>

wrote:

>In article <5984f6e6....@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Ea...@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan) wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 04 Aug 2017 12:33:42 -0700, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Then you acknowledge that the subject of the header
>> >describes the situation.
>>
>> Not at all. Parole is a temporary release of a prisoner who agrees to
>> certain conditions before the completion of the maximum sentence
>> period.
>
>Yes, community service is not parole.
>Then again, community service can be
>part of the terms of parole.

In this case Hand is not a prisoner until convicted of something.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Sat, 05 Aug 2017 11:56:43 -0700, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net>

wrote:

>In article <5984f7c8....@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Ea...@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan) wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 04 Aug 2017 12:31:32 -0700, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >The "D" is not in the code.
>> >
>> >> The law may convict him of DUI based on wording of the law.
>> >
>> >"DUI" is not in the wording of the law.
>>
>> So the DUI charge is incorrect and will not hold up in court.
>
>DUI is not a charge.
>
>> I was aware of the Alabama law in 1946. Where were you?
>
>Beating you at checkers.
>
>--
>Michael Press

When I was in college no one on this news group (or in college) could
beat me in checkers.

Later in Grove Hill AL and old codger saw me with a checker board and
showed me that I only thought I knew how to play. He was the only one
to beat me. Same in Ping Pong - I was not beaten between 1945-1980. In
both cases I play a number of people who thought they could beat me.

I shot pool for the house in the 50s. And my partner and I were
unbeatable in Bridge - several Masters would agree if still alive.

Those times are long gone.