"Pssssst comrade, check this out..."

[Futbol Phan]

Unbefckinglievable.

[Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger]

Curb your fake incredulity, Bellomy.

[unclejr]

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 10:47:03 PM UTC-5, Futbol Phan wrote:
> Unbefckinglievable.

Impeach that MF'er now.

[Ken Olson]

On 5/15/2017 11:48 PM, Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger wrote:
> Curb your fake incredulity, Bellomy.
>

tmml

[unclejr]

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 10:48:35 PM UTC-5, Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger wrote:
> Curb your fake incredulity, Bellomy.

You like this shit show after just 116 days?

[RoddyMcCorley]

That is the amazing thing: no matter what the fucktard and his minions
do, the Trumpkins love and defend him. UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!

--
False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul
with evil.

Pennsylvania - Tá sé difriúil anseo.

[Ken Olson]

On 5/16/2017 12:29 AM, RoddyMcCorley wrote:
> On 5/16/2017 12:13 AM, unclejr wrote:
>> On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 10:48:35 PM UTC-5, Damon Hynes, Cyclone
>> Ranger wrote:
>>> Curb your fake incredulity, Bellomy.
>>
>> You like this shit show after just 116 days?
>>
> That is the amazing thing: no matter what the fucktard and his minions
> do, the Trumpkins love and defend him. UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!
>

Still better than HRC.

[agavi...@gmail.com]

LOL

AND TWO SCOOPS OF ICE CREAM!

IMPEACH!!!

BURN HIM!!!

[YosemiteSam]

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 11:47:03 PM UTC-4, Futbol Phan wrote:
> Unbefckinglievable.

I'm still waiting to see any evidence of election rigging.

~YS~

[unclejr]

Rigging? No one's claiming this.

[unclejr]

Debatable. One thing for sure is that we will never know.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Tue, 16 May 2017 00:43:24 -0400, Ken Olson <kol...@freedomnet.org>
wrote:

Your logic is the best defense.

Maybe we will be as good at "defending" once we have had 8 years
practice.

Hugh


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[YosemiteSam]

Then what is the claim? What happened that warrants all the hysteria?

I'm not being anything but totally honest with those questions. I haven't seen or read anything that justifies the ranting and raving over Russia's alleged involvement in the election. What exactly did they do?

They hacked Clinton's email, ok. What did that do? Cause thousands upon thousands of Clinton voters to suddenly realize they were going to vote for a crooked politician?

Believe me, I get all the anxious and on the edge of your seat jitters over Trump, but nobody has shown the light of day on/over anything he's done thus far.

Inuendo, speculation, wishful thinking is all that comes from any and all media reports. Not one piece of clear cut evidence of anything.

I wouldn't have voted for HRC with a gun to my head. If there were no 3rd party candidate and Trump was the only alternative it would have taken a gun to my head to vote for Trump.

My point is, show me the evidence. Anything. One memo, one recorded conversation. A hand written note...something other than a people filled with a level of hatred so intense no one could succeed.

~YS~

[unclejr]

Influenced |= Rigged.

There are two congressional investigations on top of an FBI investigation on Trump/Trump's campaign as he/it relates to Russia. The evidence, if it exists, will come out eventually.

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

Um.....or are you saying hacking/rigging are different?

[unclejr]

Yes.

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

Looks like you poasted this just as I was asking...

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 7:29:12 AM UTC-5, unclejr wrote:

New DNC chair Perez? does he count?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/dnc-tom-perez-donald-trump-russia-putin-investigation-chairman-rigged-election-a7601961.html

[dotsla...@gmail.com]

Why does this have to be partisan?

Nothing is going to change the outcome of the election. Everyone can agree on that.

We don't want Russia hacking US assets to attempt to influence our elections. Everyone can agree on that.

We don't want candidates reaching out to Russia to offer them some sort of pay (in hacking assets) to play relationship. We can all agree to that.

I don't think the current dust up has anything to do with the above. It's regarding allegations that trump unknowingly discussed classified intelligence with Russian officials. Again, why is this partisan? That's a stupid thing to do and he should correct to make sure it doesn't happen again. Case closed.

The fact that we have to make everything partisan and us vs them is what's driving this country to extremism on both sides. And it's made every single rsfc-politics poaster, including myself, a hypocrite at one time or another. They did x, oH my god how could they do that. We did x, no big deal.

Cheers.

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 9:23:40 AM UTC-5, dotsla...@gmail.com wrote:
> Why does this have to be partisan?

It wasn't deliberate - just happened to be the first google search return

OTOH, it certainly is likely always going to be political given the story IS deeply political in nature.

> Nothing is going to change the outcome of the election. Everyone can agree on that.
>
> We don't want Russia hacking US assets to attempt to influence our elections. Everyone can agree on that.

Sure - and I'm pretty sure we don't want other countries doing the same either - or their press agents.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

>Debatable. One thing for sure is that THANKFULLY we will never know.

Edited by Hugh

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

Influence is not the new kid on the block. Foreign aid has existed for
a L O N G time.

If they find Russian influence, so what?

How ironic that Russia would not prefer Obama socialism to Trump
conservatism for Les Etats Unis.

[Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger]

D00d, we do it to them, and not a peep from the professional pearl-clutchers.

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 10:04:49 AM UTC-5, Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger wrote:
> D00d, we do it to them, and not a peep from the professional pearl-clutchers.

but that's different!!!!11!

Actually, the locals almost certainly *hate* it.

[Futbol Phan]

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 11:29:58 PM UTC-5, RoddyMcCorley wrote:
> On 5/16/2017 12:13 AM, unclejr wrote:
> > On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 10:48:35 PM UTC-5, Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger wrote:
> >> Curb your fake incredulity, Bellomy.
> >
> > You like this shit show after just 116 days?
> >
> That is the amazing thing: no matter what the fucktard and his minions
> do, the Trumpkins love and defend him. UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!
>

Well it can't be a good omen when you've lost lovely Ann Coulter (author, I must remind you, of "in Trump We Trust":

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/coulter-disappointment-donald-trump_us_591a4014e4b07d5f6ba578e4?iq&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

The money shot: "“Everyone who voted for him knew his personality was grotesque,” but it was the issues, the conservative commentator and author told The Daily Caller in an interview Sunday. Now, as far as the issues go, “boy, things don’t look good,” she said.

[Futbol Phan]

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 11:43:22 PM UTC-5, Ken Olson wrote:

I've never owned a parrot. But I think I understand what it would be like to have one.

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 8:47:03 PM UTC-7, Futbol Phan wrote:
> Unbefckinglievable.

Not really.

Think: Vladimir Putin is the most powerful man in the world. It's not even close.

He installs a puppet or ally as President (with probably tacit help from his opponent), and now gets some very important secrets along the way.

The fact is the Republic is finished, and there's no way this nation, as presently constructed, survives.

Mike

[darkst...@gmail.com]

And get Pence, who might be in there as a Dominionist poison pill.

Now, one theory making the conspiracy rounds is that the succession will go all the way to President Pro Tem of the Senate Orrin Hatch -- that both Pence and Paul Ryan will be taken out by this too!

Mike

[Michael Press]

In article <3a8f6232-a188-45d5...@googlegroups.com>,

Continuous news reports and accusations and not one bit of evidence.
I say "eventually" has arrived and there is no evidence.

--
Michael Press

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 9:29:58 PM UTC-7, RoddyMcCorley wrote:

> That is the amazing thing: no matter what the fucktard and his minions
> do, the Trumpkins love and defend him. UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!

There's a simple answer to that, and I don't think a lot of people want to believe that there are Americans who believe this way.

To do this, you have to understand the idea that gave this country the continent, coast-to-coast. The "Manifest Destiny" that allowed people to believe they could march in and take what they wanted was done on the deaths of many "lessers": Indians, slaves, Blacks, women, etc. and so forth.

After that, the people who they think are liberal retards began asserting that these entities had rights under the Constitution. This (and other things) eventually led to an attempt to overthrow President Roosevelt (FDR) before he could institute the New Deal, at which point the Bonus Army would probably have allied, to some extent, with Adolf Hitler, who had significant support in American industry.

Imagine Auschwitz in Kansas, for example.

I would assert that many of the non-mainstream Republicans who got Trump elected believe that:

a) The wrong side won World War II -- and I have spoken to more than a couple who believe this to be the case.
b) That America ceased being great when the rights of the "lessers" were recognized.

So, to me, why WOULDN'T the Trumpkins welcome a country effectively run under Putin: a murderous, homophobic dog?

Mike

[darkst...@gmail.com]

Probably have to wait three or so years on that one -- about the same amount of time it took the sports authorities to find out how bad Putin tried to rig the Sochi Olympics through a state-sponsored drug scheme.

Mike

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 7:23:40 AM UTC-7, dotsla...@gmail.com wrote:
> Why does this have to be partisan?
>
> Nothing is going to change the outcome of the election. Everyone can agree on that.

Not everybody. For example, Keith Olbermann actually claims there is nothing to stop the USA from holding a new snap election.

Of course, the real question, at that point, would be what happens in the interim...

> We don't want Russia hacking US assets to attempt to influence our elections. Everyone can agree on that.

I don't know if that's true either. I think there are more than a few people in this country who would take a Putin-influenced (or even directly-led) government to kill the gays and exile the poor and enslave everyone seen as useless.

> We don't want candidates reaching out to Russia to offer them some sort of pay (in hacking assets) to play relationship. We can all agree to that.

No we don't. I think there's a lot of people who would like to see a Putin-style situation here -- as long as they are the ones to survive it.

In their eyes: America ceased to be great the moment the poor got Social Security and rights. America ceased to be great when women and Blacks got the vote. America ceased to be great when the final straw went and the gays got the ability to have their love be accepted by the government.

> The fact that we have to make everything partisan and us vs them is what's driving this country to extremism on both sides. And it's made every single rsfc-politics poaster, including myself, a hypocrite at one time or another. They did x, oH my god how could they do that. We did x, no big deal.

It's like college football. It's all right that our school is a bunch of fucking rapists or a front for pedophilia: It's OUR school, which only exists for college football!!!

Mike

[darkst...@gmail.com]

Not really. Think what the Tea Party wants and how it would probably align (at least to a decent extent) to Putin.

I think the largest difference might be what influences it -- Putin probably is not a believer in Jesus Christ of any stripe.

Mike

[agavi...@gmail.com]

I remember when you posted the exact same words last year when this happened.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/10/14/presidential-policy-directive-united-states-cuba-normalization

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

Futty wanna cracker.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Tue, 16 May 2017 11:18:30 -0700 (PDT), darkst...@gmail.com
wrote:

>On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 9:29:58 PM UTC-7, RoddyMcCorley wrote:
>
>> That is the amazing thing: no matter what the fucktard and his minions
>> do, the Trumpkins love and defend him. UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!
>

>There's a simple answer to that, and I don't think a lot of people want to =

>believe that there are Americans who believe this way.
>

>To do this, you have to understand the idea that gave this country the cont=
>inent, coast-to-coast. The "Manifest Destiny" that allowed people to belie=
>ve they could march in and take what they wanted was done on the deaths of =

>many "lessers": Indians, slaves, Blacks, women, etc. and so forth.
>

>After that, the people who they think are liberal retards began asserting t=

>hat these entities had rights under the Constitution.

One doesn't have to be a libtard to understand the equality of
opportunity that is supposed to exist in this country. Actual equality
has and never will exist except for our souls.

gine Auschwitz in Kansas, for example.

>I would assert that many of the non-mainstream Republicans who got Trump el=
>ected believe that:
>
>a) The wrong side won World War II -- and I have spoken to more than a coup=

>le who believe this to be the case.

>b) That America ceased being great when the rights of the "lessers" were re=
>cognized.

I can't believe even a lib is that stupid. At least I have never met a
person that worthless.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Tue, 16 May 2017 11:32:21 -0700 (PDT), darkst...@gmail.com
wrote:

>> Influence is not the new kid on the block. Foreign aid has existed for
>> a L O N G time.
>>
>> If they find Russian influence, so what?
>>
>> How ironic that Russia would not prefer Obama socialism to Trump
>> conservatism for Les Etats Unis.
>
>Not really. Think what the Tea Party wants and how it would probably align (at least to a decent extent) to Putin.

The Tea Party exists for one reason as I see it. It's the wildass
counter to wildasslibs. You have to meet asshole with asshole.

Somewhere in between is the answer but we will never get there.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Tue, 16 May 2017 07:23:37 -0700 (PDT), dotsla...@gmail.com
wrote:

>Why does this have to be partisan?
>

>Nothing is going to change the outcome of the election. Everyone can agree=
> on that.
>
>We don't want Russia hacking US assets to attempt to influence our election=
>s. Everyone can agree on that.

If Russian influence was whatever it takes then I'm glad whatever it
takes won.

This country will not be saved by a Trump win but it's the only chance
we had.

[Ken Olson]

Truth can be concise and easily repeatable.

[Some dued]

Darkstar? I thought you'd be dead already.

[Ken Olson]

On 5/16/2017 7:50 PM, Some dued wrote:
> Darkstar? I thought you'd be dead already.
>

Hugh hasn't gotten to him yet.

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 12:42:37 PM UTC-7, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:

> One doesn't have to be a libtard to understand the equality of
> opportunity that is supposed to exist in this country. Actual equality
> has and never will exist except for our souls.

It won't exist there either -- that's one of the reasons we're in the mess we are in now.

> >a) The wrong side won World War II -- and I have spoken to more than a coup=
> >le who believe this to be the case.
> >b) That America ceased being great when the rights of the "lessers" were re=
> >cognized.
>
> I can't believe even a lib is that stupid. At least I have never met a
> person that worthless.

I'm not talking about libs feeling this way -- I'm talking Trumpkin conservatives.

Or do you have no real understanding of what you have been part of having wrought here?

Mike

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 12:47:14 PM UTC-7, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
> On Tue, 16 May 2017 11:32:21 -0700 (PDT), darkst...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>
> >> Influence is not the new kid on the block. Foreign aid has existed for
> >> a L O N G time.
> >>
> >> If they find Russian influence, so what?
> >>
> >> How ironic that Russia would not prefer Obama socialism to Trump
> >> conservatism for Les Etats Unis.
> >
> >Not really. Think what the Tea Party wants and how it would probably align (at least to a decent extent) to Putin.
>
> The Tea Party exists for one reason as I see it. It's the wildass
> counter to wildasslibs. You have to meet asshole with asshole.
>
> Somewhere in between is the answer but we will never get there.

No, we won't, and you are right on this.

The problem is that the assholes on the Right were sick of the mainstream Republicans and have literally gone all-in.

This is why I never really discarded Trump THAT greatly, even during the campaign when most felt he could not, at any point, be serious about actually consummating a Presidency out of this!

Mike

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 4:50:58 PM UTC-7, Some dued wrote:
> Darkstar? I thought you'd be dead already.

Thank the courts and the Constitution for that. Trump certainly would like to try.

Mike (And a lot of you would be glad to want to vote for it too.)

[unclejr]

On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 6:50:58 PM UTC-5, Some dued wrote:
> Darkstar? I thought you'd be dead already.

He's only half dead.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Tue, 16 May 2017 21:41:42 -0400, Ken Olson <kol...@freedomnet.org>
wrote:

>On 5/16/2017 7:50 PM, Some dued wrote:
>> Darkstar? I thought you'd be dead already.
>>
>
>Hugh hasn't gotten to him yet.

If darkstar is smart enough to post on rsfc, he is smart enough to be
convinced.

Put us in a room with no possibility of violence and I would win every
time in spite of my age. He has given up - I have not.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Tue, 16 May 2017 19:05:52 -0700 (PDT), darkst...@gmail.com
wrote:

>> I can't believe even a lib is that stupid. At least I have never met a
>> person that worthless.
>
>I'm not talking about libs feeling this way -- I'm talking Trumpkin conservatives.
>
>Or do you have no real understanding of what you have been part of having wrought here?
>
>Mike

Only one thing mattered at the time of the election - LIBERALS MUST BE
DEFEATED AT ANY COST to save the American way of life (not that it was
perfect any time).

What non-handicapped people on freebies think doesn';t matter - this
country would be better without them. Leave them alone and they will
OD or kill each other.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Tue, 16 May 2017 19:07:23 -0700 (PDT), darkst...@gmail.com
wrote:

>The problem is that the assholes on the Right were sick of the mainstream Republicans and have literally gone all-in.

I can't disagree with that. Someone has to face the assholes on the
left so we can meet somewhere between. The starting point is that
extermists are always wrong.

McConnell disagrees with Trump this AM - don't cut taxes and increase
the deficit. He obviously reads what I say on rsfc.

>
>This is why I never really discarded Trump THAT greatly, even during the campaign when most felt he could not, at any point, be serious about actually consummating a Presidency out of this!
>
>Mike

Trump is a bully. I would have no problem telling him where he is
going wrong. I don't fear his money or power. I fear being outthought.

Maybe he could convince me that his methods will work - but he hasn't
yet.

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 6:37:30 AM UTC-7, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
> On Tue, 16 May 2017 19:05:52 -0700 (PDT), darkst...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> >> I can't believe even a lib is that stupid. At least I have never met a
> >> person that worthless.
> >
> >I'm not talking about libs feeling this way -- I'm talking Trumpkin conservatives.
> >
> >Or do you have no real understanding of what you have been part of having wrought here?
> >
> >Mike
>
> Only one thing mattered at the time of the election - LIBERALS MUST BE
> DEFEATED AT ANY COST to save the American way of life (not that it was
> perfect any time).

Then start shooting.

You really think I'm exaggerating when I say that, but, at that point, the only good liberal (to you) is a dead one. You can't convert a lot of these people.

You forget several things:

1) Many of these people are alive only because of benefits, cheap credit, and The New Deal. Eugenics (if not euthanasia) was actually a fairly popular means of dealing with the "useless" until the courts prohibited it. It was common practice to order welfare cases to be sterilized for the good of the common society -- in North Carolina, as late as 1977!

2) Much of American industry (and more than a few people) wanted the Nazis to take Europe and were willing to incorporate it here. One of it's offshoots was The Bonus Army, who tried to overthrow FDR before he could become President. This is why you get the infamous Prescott Bush Nazi ties -- because he was hardly alone in the American ethos. If the Bonus Army succeeded, we probably have concentration camps in this country to take care of the unemployed and unemployable.

3) This leads to the rise of the Tea Party, who probably believes America ceased to be great when it allowed the lessers to have rights. The final straw that probably put Trump over the top as someone who would act against the lessers rather than the rest of the Clown Car just talking about it was Obgerefell.

If liberalism must be defeated at all cost, you probably have to kill half the country. Not sterilize, not segregate, eliminate.

> What non-handicapped people on freebies think doesn';t matter - this
> country would be better without them. Leave them alone and they will
> OD or kill each other.

No, they'll kill YOU. That's the problem you don't get. The only reason you were able to get to work or do anything productive is that you paid for the peace.

As an example, the Federal government is fully in belief that I will kill people -- and, in fact, at least in one case, an important person (a former Trump contestant, BTW). I get a check (and was passed through much of the red tape for it) because they hope it will give me enough incentive not to kill people.

Yes, it's a bribe not to kill people like you.

Mike

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 6:46:49 AM UTC-7, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
> On Tue, 16 May 2017 19:07:23 -0700 (PDT), darkst...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> >The problem is that the assholes on the Right were sick of the mainstream Republicans and have literally gone all-in.
>
> I can't disagree with that. Someone has to face the assholes on the
> left so we can meet somewhere between. The starting point is that
> extermists are always wrong.

And here's where we disagree. At some point, talking doesn't get it done.

The Tea Party was the start of that effort on the Right, the alt-Right's rise and Trump the logical results. Now, you've got people literally being led by White supremacists and carrying torches. This does not and CANNOT end without violence, on one or both sides of the equation.

I think our main difference is the belief that the useless will take care of (as in off) themselves given the chance. They might... But they'll take you with them and have ZERO QUALMS doing so.

> >This is why I never really discarded Trump THAT greatly, even during the campaign when most felt he could not, at any point, be serious about actually consummating a Presidency out of this!

> Trump is a bully. I would have no problem telling him where he is
> going wrong. I don't fear his money or power. I fear being outthought.

So are his supporters. One of the main reasons "grab her in the pussy" won him the election (instead of what should've happened) is that his supporters have been informally codifying such a situation (which is what Trump was actually saying in the tape!!) for a very long time and want to take lessers and effectively destroy any sense of safety, effectively making some into cattle and killing off the rest.

ObRSFC: Without "grab her in the pussy", you have no football -- at ANY level.

> Maybe he could convince me that his methods will work - but he hasn't
> yet.

The reason he's a failure to the (at least alt-)Right is that the shooting hasn't started between the Army and the useless on American streets yet.

End of the day, THAT was why he was elected -- and that is the "AT ALL COST" you speak of. Nothing else will work, especially in the eyes of the Right.

Mike

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Wed, 17 May 2017 11:27:32 -0700 (PDT), darkst...@gmail.com
wrote:


>You really think I'm exaggerating when I say that, but, at that point, the =
>only good liberal (to you) is a dead one. You can't convert a lot of these=
> people.

You're probably not exaggerating. I think you have limited experience
in management and limited intelligence. You only have the mental
capacity to see one way.
>
>You forget several things:

>1) Many of these people are alive only because of benefits, cheap credit, a=
>nd The New Deal.

So, if those things had not happened they would not be alive.

>Eugenics (if not euthanasia) was actually a fairly popula=

>r means of dealing with the "useless" until the courts prohibited it.

Euthanasia was for people in unsolvable physical misery - usually
older people.

>It w=
>as common practice to order welfare cases to be sterilized for the good of =

>the common society -- in North Carolina, as late as 1977!

Society doesn't always accept shoddy merchandise. There is less reason
to enable worthless people to reproduce. But everyone on welfare is
not worthless.

>2) Much of American industry (and more than a few people) wanted the Nazis =

>to take Europe and were willing to incorporate it here.

I liked the idea of a super race but not the way Hitler did it.

>3) This leads to the rise of the Tea Party, who probably believes America c=
>eased to be great when it allowed the lessers to have rights. The final st=
>raw that probably put Trump over the top as someone who would act against t=
>he lessers rather than the rest of the Clown Car just talking about it was =
>Obgerefell.
>
>If liberalism must be defeated at all cost, you probably have to kill half =

>the country. Not sterilize, not segregate, eliminate.

It doesn't have to be in my lifetime or yours. Even slavery would have
solved itself given enough time.

>
>> What non-handicapped people on freebies think doesn';t matter - this
>> country would be better without them. Leave them alone and they will
>> OD or kill each other.
>

>No, they'll kill YOU. That's the problem you don't get. The only reason y=
>ou were able to get to work or do anything productive is that you paid for =
>the peace.

That and the weapons in my vehcle. It would have cost more than 1 life

>As an example, the Federal government is fully in belief that I will kill p=
>eople -- and, in fact, at least in one case, an important person (a former =
>Trump contestant, BTW). I get a check (and was passed through much of the =
>red tape for it) because they hope it will give me enough incentive not to =

>kill people.
>
>Yes, it's a bribe not to kill people like you.
>
>Mike

I don't really wish you had tried 40 years ago - but you might have
been posting from a warmer place if you had. I'm easy now.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Wed, 17 May 2017 11:33:48 -0700 (PDT), darkst...@gmail.com
wrote:

>And here's where we disagree. At some point, talking doesn't get it done.

We do disagree. I coached Little League in a mostly black area. I know
some of those kids minds were changed and they had a better life
because of me and people like me. I usually gave 2 or 3 rides home. I
was told they had aleted people that I was not to be touched.

One of the bitter Viet Nam veterans in the Reserve told others if they
gave CDR Sullivan shit they would answer to him - I heard him once. I
had previously asked him to get 10 volunteers for AcDuTra when they
didn't want to go. He did because we had mutual respect, not because
we thought alike.

I was assigned to the lousiest paper rout in Greenville MS - 1
Italian, ! Assyrian and about 30 blacks. I left delivering more than
100 papers and everybody paid up. It was one of the 2 choice routes.

It's small stuff but it's success

>I think our main difference is the belief that the useless will take care o=
>f (as in off) themselves given the chance. They might... But they'll take=

> you with them and have ZERO QUALMS doing so.

You have to convince them OVER TIME that there is a better way and
motivate them. Authority over them is not the answer. Feed him salt
and make him thirsty if you want him to drink. You have probably seen
failure - I have not.


>End of the day, THAT was why he was elected -- and that is the "AT ALL COST=
>" you speak of. Nothing else will work, especially in the eyes of the Righ=
>t.
>
>Mike

The AT ALL COST is cause and effect - either side can cause the wrong
effect and does constantly.

Being a nigger is not dependent on race or politics.

[RoddyMcCorley]

On 5/16/2017 12:43 AM, Ken Olson wrote:
> On 5/16/2017 12:29 AM, RoddyMcCorley wrote:
>> On 5/16/2017 12:13 AM, unclejr wrote:
>>> On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 10:48:35 PM UTC-5, Damon Hynes, Cyclone
>>> Ranger wrote:
>>>> Curb your fake incredulity, Bellomy.
>>>
>>> You like this shit show after just 116 days?
>>>
>> That is the amazing thing: no matter what the fucktard and his minions
>> do, the Trumpkins love and defend him. UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!
>>
>
> Still better than HRC.

I'm glad that you agree that he and his minions are fucktards.

--
False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul
with evil.

Pennsylvania - Tá sé difriúil anseo.

[Ken Olson]

On 5/18/2017 12:29 AM, RoddyMcCorley wrote:
> On 5/16/2017 12:43 AM, Ken Olson wrote:
>> On 5/16/2017 12:29 AM, RoddyMcCorley wrote:
>>> On 5/16/2017 12:13 AM, unclejr wrote:
>>>> On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 10:48:35 PM UTC-5, Damon Hynes, Cyclone
>>>> Ranger wrote:
>>>>> Curb your fake incredulity, Bellomy.
>>>>
>>>> You like this shit show after just 116 days?
>>>>
>>> That is the amazing thing: no matter what the fucktard and his minions
>>> do, the Trumpkins love and defend him. UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!
>>>
>>
>> Still better than HRC.
> I'm glad that you agree that he and his minions are fucktards.
>

No. Realists.

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 1:48:28 PM UTC-7, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
> On Wed, 17 May 2017 11:27:32 -0700 (PDT), darkst...@gmail.com
> wrote:

> >You really think I'm exaggerating when I say that, but, at that point, the =
> >only good liberal (to you) is a dead one. You can't convert a lot of these=
> > people.
>
> You're probably not exaggerating. I think you have limited experience
> in management and limited intelligence. You only have the mental
> capacity to see one way.

Especially when it is the correct one, that's not hard.

> >You forget several things:
>
> >1) Many of these people are alive only because of benefits, cheap credit, a=
> >nd The New Deal.
>
> So, if those things had not happened they would not be alive.

Exactly. Many would've been gassed in American concentration camps had the Bonus Army overthrown FDR and got their way about things.

> >Eugenics (if not euthanasia) was actually a fairly popula=
> >r means of dealing with the "useless" until the courts prohibited it.
>
> Euthanasia was for people in unsolvable physical misery - usually
> older people.

And for the imbeciles they couldn't keep control by simply sterilizing.

> >It w=
> >as common practice to order welfare cases to be sterilized for the good of =
> >the common society -- in North Carolina, as late as 1977!
>
> Society doesn't always accept shoddy merchandise. There is less reason
> to enable worthless people to reproduce. But everyone on welfare is
> not worthless.

See the first comment -- you've been forced to accept shoddy merchandise in that regard because you believe America doesn't do things "that way".

> >2) Much of American industry (and more than a few people) wanted the Nazis =
> >to take Europe and were willing to incorporate it here.
>
> I liked the idea of a super race but not the way Hitler did it.

You really have little other choice, though. To get a super race -- ANY super race -- you have to eliminate from their gene pool all others and those of that race with recessive, lesser, genes.

> >3) This leads to the rise of the Tea Party, who probably believes America c=
> >eased to be great when it allowed the lessers to have rights. The final st=
> >raw that probably put Trump over the top as someone who would act against t=
> >he lessers rather than the rest of the Clown Car just talking about it was =
> >Obgerefell.
> >
> >If liberalism must be defeated at all cost, you probably have to kill half =
> >the country. Not sterilize, not segregate, eliminate.
>
> It doesn't have to be in my lifetime or yours. Even slavery would have
> solved itself given enough time.

I would assert that slavery actually will be put back into fashion in the next few years. Starting with debtors, going from there.

> >> What non-handicapped people on freebies think doesn';t matter - this
> >> country would be better without them. Leave them alone and they will
> >> OD or kill each other.
> >
> >No, they'll kill YOU. That's the problem you don't get. The only reason y=
> >ou were able to get to work or do anything productive is that you paid for =
> >the peace.
>
> That and the weapons in my vehcle. It would have cost more than 1 life

What you forget is it doesn't matter on the other side of the equation at that point. If that person is going to die anyway, chances are they are going to try to take as many of you as they can.

> >As an example, the Federal government is fully in belief that I will kill p=
> >eople -- and, in fact, at least in one case, an important person (a former =
> >Trump contestant, BTW). I get a check (and was passed through much of the =
> >red tape for it) because they hope it will give me enough incentive not to =
> >kill people.

> >Yes, it's a bribe not to kill people like you.

> I don't really wish you had tried 40 years ago - but you might have
> been posting from a warmer place if you had. I'm easy now.

Trust me, most people think I'm going a very warm place -- soon.

Mike

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Thu, 18 May 2017 02:20:15 -0700 (PDT), darkst...@gmail.com
wrote:

>On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 at 1:48:28 PM UTC-7, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 May 2017 11:27:32 -0700 (PDT), darkst...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>
>> >You really think I'm exaggerating when I say that, but, at that point, the =
>> >only good liberal (to you) is a dead one. You can't convert a lot of these=
>> > people.
>>
>> You're probably not exaggerating. I think you have limited experience
>> in management and limited intelligence. You only have the mental
>> capacity to see one way.
>
>Especially when it is the correct one, that's not hard.

I suppose you are correct when libs pay people for failing. Libs will
pay failures until failures are all that is left. It's a peer thing.

>And for the imbeciles they couldn't keep control by simply sterilizing.

The best thing I could do for you is cut the strings by which the
puppetmaster controls you.

>See the first comment -- you've been forced to accept shoddy merchandise in that regard because you believe America doesn't do things "that way".

What shoddy merchandise do you think I have? What merchandise do I
want that I do not have?

>> I liked the idea of a super race but not the way Hitler did it.
>
>You really have little other choice, though. To get a super race -- ANY super race -- you have to eliminate from their gene pool all others and those of that race with recessive, lesser, genes.

I never wanted or expected to have that choice.

>> >If liberalism must be defeated at all cost, you probably have to kill half =
>> >the country. Not sterilize, not segregate, eliminate.
>>
>> It doesn't have to be in my lifetime or yours. Even slavery would have
>> solved itself given enough time.
>
>I would assert that slavery actually will be put back into fashion in the next few years. Starting with debtors, going from there.

Actually freeloaders are already slaves to the whims of liberals and
their ability to pursue their unAmerican policies.

>What you forget is it doesn't matter on the other side of the equation at that point. If that person is going to die anyway, chances are they are going to try to take as many of you as they can.

I'm going to die anyway....

>> I don't really wish you had tried 40 years ago - but you might have
>> been posting from a warmer place if you had. I'm easy now.
>
>Trust me, most people think I'm going a very warm place -- soon.
>
>Mike

If we had spent our younger years together I could/would have changed
that.

[Michael Press]

In article <9bbb824f-c9d8-426e...@googlegroups.com>,

darkst...@gmail.com wrote:

> I would assert that slavery actually will be put back into fashion in the next few years. Starting with debtors, going from there.

We already have slavery. It was signed into law by
president Lyndon Johnson. It is called the
Economic Opportunity Act. He called the war on poverty.
Poverty won.

--
Michael Press

[darkst...@gmail.com]

Your alternative is to halve the population.

Basically, what you are saying is that we should've left them to starve in the 30's or 60's and limited the damage.

Mike

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 5:09:09 AM UTC-7, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:

> I suppose you are correct when libs pay people for failing. Libs will
> pay failures until failures are all that is left. It's a peer thing.

No, it's a safety thing, unless you wish to basically admit the alternative (as it should've been in my case) was hot lead.

> >And for the imbeciles they couldn't keep control by simply sterilizing.
>
> The best thing I could do for you is cut the strings by which the
> puppetmaster controls you.

Without those "strings" (if you wish to see them as that), you're reading about me in a true-crime book for what I would've done to two Wisconsin college campuses in the 1980's and 90's.

> >See the first comment -- you've been forced to accept shoddy merchandise in that regard because you believe America doesn't do things "that way".
>
> What shoddy merchandise do you think I have? What merchandise do I
> want that I do not have?

Liberals.

> >> I liked the idea of a super race but not the way Hitler did it.
> >
> >You really have little other choice, though. To get a super race -- ANY super race -- you have to eliminate from their gene pool all others and those of that race with recessive, lesser, genes.
>
> I never wanted or expected to have that choice.

Because we don't do things "that way".

> >> >If liberalism must be defeated at all cost, you probably have to kill half =
> >> >the country. Not sterilize, not segregate, eliminate.
> >>
> >> It doesn't have to be in my lifetime or yours. Even slavery would have
> >> solved itself given enough time.
> >
> >I would assert that slavery actually will be put back into fashion in the next few years. Starting with debtors, going from there.
>
> Actually freeloaders are already slaves to the whims of liberals and
> their ability to pursue their unAmerican policies.

And conservatives are slaves to a false ideology which is completely contrary to the Constitution (a blasphemous document to the Religious Right and an offensive document to all other conservatives).

> >What you forget is it doesn't matter on the other side of the equation at that point. If that person is going to die anyway, chances are they are going to try to take as many of you as they can.
>
> I'm going to die anyway....

I think you know of the type of people I speak.

> >> I don't really wish you had tried 40 years ago - but you might have
> >> been posting from a warmer place if you had. I'm easy now.
> >
> >Trust me, most people think I'm going a very warm place -- soon.

> If we had spent our younger years together I could/would have changed
> that.

With a gun? Son, I think you don't know who or what you are dealing with here.

Mike

[Michael Press]

In article <2d2b6ad2-d7d9-4a2a...@googlegroups.com>,

darkst...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 10:42:38 AM UTC-7, Michael Press wrote:
> > In article <9bbb824f-c9d8-426e...@googlegroups.com>,
> > darkst...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > I would assert that slavery actually will be put back into fashion in the next few years. Starting with debtors, going from there.
> >
> > We already have slavery. It was signed into law by
> > president Lyndon Johnson. It is called the
> > Economic Opportunity Act. He called the war on poverty.
> > Poverty won.
>
> Your alternative is to halve the population.

No, that is _your_ alternative.

My alternative is a theocracy.
Please try to keep up.

--
Michael Press

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Thu, 18 May 2017 11:06:46 -0700 (PDT), darkst...@gmail.com
wrote:

>> What shoddy merchandise do you think I have? What merchandise do I
>> want that I do not have?
>
>Liberals.

It's bit doubtful that I ever wanted liberals

>And conservatives are slaves to a false ideology which is completely contrary to the Constitution (a blasphemous document to the Religious Right and an offensive document to all other conservatives).

Unguilty - I had the conservative ideology before conservatives.

>> >Trust me, most people think I'm going a very warm place -- soon.
>
>> If we had spent our younger years together I could/would have changed
>> that.
>
>With a gun? Son, I think you don't know who or what you are dealing with here.

Is there more to you than mouth - it's not in evidence on rsfc.

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7, Michael Press wrote:

> My alternative is a theocracy.

The only difference between our methodologies is how half the population gets halved.

> Please try to keep up.

Same.

Mike

[Michael Press]

In article <dcfb7a04-2181-4dc1...@googlegroups.com>,

darkst...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7, Michael Press wrote:
>
> > My alternative is a theocracy.
>
> The only difference between our methodologies is how half the population gets halved.

Not in my world. That is your world.

> > Please try to keep up.
>
> Same.

Way ahead of you, since you repeat what I say.
Is that because you do not put your best effort
toward an imaginative riposte?

--
Michael Press

[darkst...@gmail.com]

No, that I don't have to is the answer to your question.

You don't realize that a theocracy halves the population as well, just in the (purported) Name Of God...

Mike

[Michael Press]

In article <7ff28c49-4f01-4ff7...@googlegroups.com>,

darkst...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 6:08:01 PM UTC-7, Michael Press wrote:
> > In article <dcfb7a04-2181-4dc1...@googlegroups.com>,
> > darkst...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 12:29:56 PM UTC-7, Michael Press wrote:
> > >
> > > > My alternative is a theocracy.
> > >
> > > The only difference between our methodologies is how half the population gets halved.
> >
> > Not in my world. That is your world.
> >
> > > > Please try to keep up.
> > >
> > > Same.
> >
> > Way ahead of you, since you repeat what I say.
> > Is that because you do not put your best effort
> > toward an imaginative riposte?
>
> No, that I don't have to is the answer to your question.
>
> You don't realize that a theocracy halves the population as well, just in the (purported) Name Of God...
>
> Mike

No I do not realize that.

--
Michael Press

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Friday, May 19, 2017 at 9:59:21 AM UTC-7, Michael Press wrote:
> In article <7ff28c49-4f01-4ff7...@googlegroups.com>,

> darkst...@gmail.com wrote:

> > You don't realize that a theocracy halves the population as well, just in the (purported) Name Of God...

> No I do not realize that.

Please try to keep up.

Mike

[Michael Press]

In article <29b90a63-d515-4169...@googlegroups.com>,

So---the answer is that you cannot do better
than use the same words that were used on you.

>
> Mike

Still far ahead of you.

--
Michael Press

[Ken Olson]

So in your theocracy would Rastafarian Vikings such as myself be welcomed?

[Michael Press]

In article <ofnql4$32a$2...@dont-email.me>,

Is Odin a god?

--
Michael Press

[Ken Olson]

The Allfather.

[Michael Press]

In article <ofntul$crn$1...@dont-email.me>,

That's a yes?

--
Michael Press

[darkst...@gmail.com]

No, the answer is that you're too stupid for me to have to.

You not only wish a theocracy, but you have no understanding of what that ends up doing.

God, are you fucking dumb.

Mike

[Futbol Phan]

Can we all get along?

<$1 to the estate of Rodney King>

[Ken Olson]

Of course. There's also his son Thor and the trickster Loki.

[Ken Olson]

I think Rodney might have been a decent guy to have a beer with, but I
would neither want to ride or do PCP with him.

[Michael Press]

In article <ofo7ha$1b4$2...@dont-email.me>,

Winston Zeddemore: Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say "YES"!

> There's also his son Thor and the trickster Loki.

--
Michael Press

[xyzzy]

One of the best movie lines ever.

[Michael Press]

In article <5e2add3d-7e80-4517...@googlegroups.com>,

darkst...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Friday, May 19, 2017 at 1:53:15 PM UTC-7, Michael Press wrote:
> > In article <29b90a63-d515-4169...@googlegroups.com>,
> > darkst...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > On Friday, May 19, 2017 at 9:59:21 AM UTC-7, Michael Press wrote:
> > > > In article <7ff28c49-4f01-4ff7...@googlegroups.com>,
> > > > darkst...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > > You don't realize that a theocracy halves the population as well, just in the (purported) Name Of God...
> > >
> > > > No I do not realize that.
> > >
> > > Please try to keep up.
> >
> > So---the answer is that you cannot do better
> > than use the same words that were used on you.
>
> No, the answer is that you're too stupid for me to have to.
>
> You not only wish a theocracy, but you have no understanding of what that ends up doing.
>
> God,

Ah, a convert.

> are you fucking dumb.

You have been listening to my detractors.

--
Michael Press