More conservative president?

[agavi...@gmail.com]

Bill Clinton or GW Bush?

[tim.vanwa...@gmail.com]

For the most part, Clinton. But that's because he had a republican congress for most of it. In the last 50 years, a Democrat with a Republican congress tends to moderate their administration. A republican with a republican congress just means indecision, Ill-conceived programs, and fiscal irresponsibility. A democratic congress with a Republican president is similarly more moderate. A democrat with a democratic congress is a disaster of well conceived but horribly expensive and not usually that effective programs.

* note. With respect to the "conceived" component - the difference is that the average democrat policy maker has spent his entire life thinking of how to build and implement a program around their area of interest. The average republican policy maker treats the exercise more like "here, hold my beer and watch this..." For example, just look at the series of fast and poorly thought out immigration policy moves by Stephen Miller or the disaster that is NCLB.

[agavi...@gmail.com]

Without diving too deeply, I tend to agree. Congress or not. I don't think he really cared about the healthcare thing. But Bush seeemed to be a "govt can fix that" kind of guy.

I suspect they were hardly different.

[Eric Ramon]

On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 3:15:31 PM UTC-7, the_andr...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Without diving too deeply, I tend to agree. Congress or not. I don't think he really cared about the healthcare thing. But Bush seeemed to be a "govt can fix that" kind of guy.
>
> I suspect they were hardly different.

for that matter, include Obama. Outside of a few window dressing programs Obama was "more of the same".

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 11:02:32 -0700 (PDT), tim.vanwa...@gmail.com
wrote:

>For the most part, Clinton. But that's because he had a republican congress=
> for most of it. In the last 50 years, a Democrat with a Republican congres=
>s tends to moderate their administration. A republican with a republican co=
>ngress just means indecision, Ill-conceived programs, and fiscal irresponsi=
>bility. A democratic congress with a Republican president is similarly mor=
>e moderate. A democrat with a democratic congress is a disaster of well co=

>nceived but horribly expensive and not usually that effective programs.

You post some interesting comments BUT considering what Barry-O did to
the deficit how can you comment on GOP fiscal irresponsibility. Lame
Brain Johnson was not a Republican either.

Hugh

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[wolfie]

"J. Hugh Sullivan" wrote

> You post some interesting comments BUT considering what Barry-O did to
> the deficit how can you comment on GOP fiscal irresponsibility.

Not "Barry-O," but "Paul Ryan."

Spending levels are the responsibility of the House of
Representatives "The house of representatives can not
only refuse, but they alone can propose the supplies requisite
for the support of government. They in a word hold the purse..."

This basic Constitutional fact brought to you by James Madison.

[michael anderson]

On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 8:36:35 AM UTC-5, the_andr...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Bill Clinton or GW Bush?

oh W...by far.

Clinton raised taxes....Bush lowered them.

[plai...@gmail.com]

I know it's your stuck button me-me-me issue, but there's more to conservatism than lower taxes.

[michael anderson]

On Friday, August 4, 2017 at 10:30:09 PM UTC-5, plai...@gmail.com wrote:
> I know it's your stuck button me-me-me issue, but there's more to conservatism than lower taxes.

well, it's a BIG DAMN PART of conservatism thats for sure.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

Gee, during those days I thought the head jackass was involved
somehow.

It's good to know a sitting president can avoid responsibility.

[wolfie]

"J. Hugh Sullivan" wrote

> Gee, during those days I thought the head jackass was involved
> somehow.

Oh, sorry, I didn't realize you were making the point
the ONLY fiscally responsible President in your lifetime
was that liberal Democrat, Bill Clinton.

You were probably a secret Hillary backer, wanting a
return to those days.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

Come back when you uinderstand comparatively speaking. We will miss
you.