Anyone else notice...

[xyzzy]

... the so-called ISIS attack happened in Texas while the Texas National Guard was busy guarding against a wingnut fever dream of a US military takeover?

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 9:53:22 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> ... the so-called ISIS attack happened in Texas while the Texas National Guard was busy guarding against a wingnut fever dream of a US military takeover?

The Texas National Guard isn't - the Texas STATE guard is.

Please to be correcting the VLWC

[JGibson]

On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 10:53:22 AM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
> ... the so-called ISIS attack happened in Texas while the Texas National Guard was busy guarding against a wingnut fever dream of a US military takeover?

So, what you are saying is that the U.S. Military, Obama, and ISIS are working in conjunction by distracting Texas on one front and then attacking on another.

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

Wait - you mean they're separate entities? I did not know this

[xyzzy]

Done. Note the correction at the end: http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2015/05/02/403865824/texas-governor-deploys-state-guard-to-stave-off-obama-takeover

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 10:37:30 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> Done. Note the correction at the end: http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2015/05/02/403865824/texas-governor-deploys-state-guard-to-stave-off-obama-takeover

The VRWC was having a chcukle at the VLWC over this y'day

I can see what Abbott's doing here - and I can also see the bad optics

[Con Reeder, unhyphenated American]

You watch too much MSNBC. The idea that it was a "wingnut fever dream"
is totally trumped up.

--
Experience is what allows you to recognize a mistake the second
time you make it. -- unknown

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 10:51:05 AM UTC-5, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
> On 2015-05-05, xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ... the so-called ISIS attack happened in Texas while the Texas
> > National Guard was busy guarding against a wingnut fever dream of a US
> > military takeover?
>
> You watch too much MSNBC. The idea that it was a "wingnut fever dream"
> is totally trumped up.
>

Yes/no - there absolutely is a small but VERY vocal group running around baying about Jade Helm - first caught sight of them when WalMart closed a couple stores.

[xyzzy]

On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 11:44:29 AM UTC-4, The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 10:37:30 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> > Done. Note the correction at the end: http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2015/05/02/403865824/texas-governor-deploys-state-guard-to-stave-off-obama-takeover
>
> The VRWC was having a chcukle at the VLWC over this y'day

I guess when your side does something so undeniably wacko as this, you have to get your laughs where you can.

> I can see what Abbott's doing here - and I can also see the bad optics

Pandering to the most far-out elements of the tinfoil hat crowd? Yeah I can see how that might look kinda bad.

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/rec.sport.football.college/jade$20helm/rec.sport.football.college/6IYYRbCP8H4/j6yhFM9g-KYJ

[xyzzy]

And that's the group that apparently has Greg Abbot's ear.

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 10:58:41 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 11:44:29 AM UTC-4, The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 10:37:30 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> > > Done. Note the correction at the end: http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2015/05/02/403865824/texas-governor-deploys-state-guard-to-stave-off-obama-takeover
> >
> > The VRWC was having a chcukle at the VLWC over this y'day
>
> I guess when your side does something so undeniably wacko as this, you have to get your laughs where you can.
>

Um....the VRWC was laughing at A) the state guard v nat'l guard bit and B) the whole 'stave off' headline - there's nothing to "stave off", but "liase" or "monitor" just aren't sexy.

Pluseth, if NPR wants and neeeeeeeeds to go with "stave off", they're saying that there IS something to "stave off" and stating that Texath is being invaded..... :)

Headline writers on the VRWC are just as bad.

> > I can see what Abbott's doing here - and I can also see the bad optics
>
> Pandering to the most far-out elements of the tinfoil hat crowd? Yeah I can see how that might look kinda bad.

And it looks really bad too if he doesn't act to assuage fears and concerns, answer questions, etc - sure, there are a gazillion ways to do this - otoh, it IS Texas we're talking 'bout

Here's what I'd like to know - from where did the Abbott notice first hit the press - did his office release it proudly or was it found and trumpeted elsewhere? First I read about it was last week on Salon - a "zomg, Texicans are such goobers" type of article

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

And if he did nothing, he'd be criticized for ignoring the concerns of the citizens who wanted information and to just know what's "going on"....

Being a politician would kinda suck frequently

[Con Reeder, unhyphenated American]

What the heck does that have to do with the Texas State Guard?
Them being present during exercises is kind of like state troopers
being present during a FBI training...

--
There's nothing sweeter than life nor more precious than time.
-- Barney

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

If you're curious, here's Abbott's executive order

http://gov.texas.gov/files/press-office/20150428125759.pdf

[Con Reeder, unhyphenated American]

Jeez, if you base your opinions on the hash dreams they are having at Salon,
heaven help you. Anyone doing that is much farther gone than your average
John Bircher....

--
Life isn't fair, but it's good. -- Regina Brett

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

The Jade Helm Martial Law crowd is convinced that the exercise is actually a takeover move by the US Gov't - the shut down WalMarts will be used as detention centers or processing or something like that.

Got that?

Okay - so then when Abbott asked the TSG to monitor, he's showing that he's part of that group too - and that he's deploying the TSG to fight against the hostile Yankee invaders.

Or something like that.

Like I said, it has baddish optics and is really easy to make fun of. I can also see why Abbott did this - both as a politician and a governor

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

Here ya go :)! If you have a heart attack after reading this, IT'S NOT MY FAULT!!!!!!! TRIGGER WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.salon.com/2015/04/30/right_wing_lunatics_think_the_military_is_planning_to_invade_texas_heres_why/

[Con Reeder, unhyphenated American]

On 2015-05-05, The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior <Iamtj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 11:10:55 AM UTC-5, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
>> On 2015-05-05, The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior <Iamtj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 10:51:05 AM UTC-5, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
>> >> On 2015-05-05, xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > ... the so-called ISIS attack happened in Texas while the Texas
>> >> > National Guard was busy guarding against a wingnut fever dream of a US
>> >> > military takeover?
>> >>
>> >> You watch too much MSNBC. The idea that it was a "wingnut fever dream"
>> >> is totally trumped up.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Yes/no - there absolutely is a small but VERY vocal group running
>> > around baying about Jade Helm - first caught sight of them when
>> > WalMart closed a couple stores.
>>
>> What the heck does that have to do with the Texas State Guard?
>> Them being present during exercises is kind of like state troopers
>> being present during a FBI training...
>>
>
> The Jade Helm Martial Law crowd is convinced that the exercise is
> actually a takeover move by the US Gov't - the shut down WalMarts will
> be used as detention centers or processing or something like that.
>
> Got that?

So? It is a different hash dream than the ones Salon is having. If
you paid attention to every ditzy group on either side of the political
spectrum, you'd go insane.

The only reason the SJWs -- who exhibit a similar level of delusionary
action -- are getting so much press is that they are somehow having
influence at our educational institutions due to Title IX. This is a
much more damaging thing, as huge amounts of federal funding are used
in education, and the amount of wasted money due to it is staggering.

>
> Okay - so then when Abbott asked the TSG to monitor, he's showing that
> he's part of that group too - and that he's deploying the TSG to fight
> against the hostile Yankee invaders.
>
> Or something like that.

Oh right. (rolls eyes)

> Like I said, it has baddish optics and is really easy to make fun of.
> I can also see why Abbott did this - both as a politician and a
> governor

Since anyone with half a brain would do it anyway, as you like to know
what is going on in your state and it is a good training opportunity.

--
Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them.
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

[Con Reeder, unhyphenated American]

When no one can tell the difference between your actual Twitter feed
and your parody Twitter feed, you know that you are irrelevant to real
discussions.

--
Being against torture ought to be sort of a bipartisan thing.
-- Karl Lehenbauer

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

It could have been handled much better - why provide fodder for the Salon grist mill?

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

Life is difficult for the Onion.

[Con Reeder, unhyphenated American]

I would not be entirely surprised to find out that Salon is a brilliant
deep-cover work by the Onion.

[JGibson]

On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 11:51:05 AM UTC-4, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
> On 2015-05-05, xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ... the so-called ISIS attack happened in Texas while the Texas
> > National Guard was busy guarding against a wingnut fever dream of a US
> > military takeover?
>
> You watch too much MSNBC. The idea that it was a "wingnut fever dream"
> is totally trumped up.
>

Too much MSNBC? I got that idea from the pages that Hynes liked on Facebook.

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

Mostly Sane Nebraskan Berates Commies?

[Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger]

On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 12:14:11 PM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:

> > You watch too much MSNBC. The idea that it was a "wingnut fever dream"
> > is totally trumped up.
> >
>
> Too much MSNBC? I got that idea from the pages that Hynes liked on Facebook.

:-)

[xyzzy]

Still sticking by your contention that Abbot 's actions are perfectly reasonable?

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/241099-perry-criticizes-texas-governor-for-sending-state-guard-to-monitor-us-military#

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

On Tuesday, May 5, 2015 at 5:42:57 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> Still sticking by your contention that Abbot 's actions are perfectly reasonable?
>
> http://thehill.com/policy/defense/241099-perry-criticizes-texas-governor-for-sending-state-guard-to-monitor-us-military#

Yeah sure - and yes, Abbott is trying to score cheap political points - as is Perry.

If Abbott asks for more than monitoring, then no.

Pluseth, the Army would be badly outgunned if they tried to invade Texath - so it's a moot point anyway.

[andre...@gmail.com]

We should give Texas back to Mexico.