Poor Stupid Kamala

[Ken Olson]

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/07/01/kamala-harris-gets-crushed-with-facts-after-claiming-gop-wants-to-steal-health-care-from-americans/

[Some dued]

Articles about someone getting crushed or destroyed are up there with "weird old trick" and "your jaw will drop when you see".

[Ken Olson]

On 7/1/2017 4:23 PM, Some dued wrote:
> Articles about someone getting crushed or destroyed are up there with "weird old trick" and "your jaw will drop when you see".
>

The point is, she ain't all that and a bag of chips.

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 12:33:03 PM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:
> http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/07/01/kamala-harris-gets-crushed-with-facts-after-claiming-gop-wants-to-steal-health-care-from-americans/

The only thing about that which would be "fact" if that were the case would imply Americans have no right to health care -- which would mean they don't have a right to live either.

The Republican Health Care Plan: HUADA. Hurry Up And Die Already.

Mike

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

If everyone who didn't have healthcare died before Obama, there would
never have been an Obama.

EVERY American has a right to healthcare - they just don't have the
right to make someone else pay for it imposed by the Constitution.

Hugh

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[darkst...@gmail.com]

No, that makes healthcare - and hence life - a PRIVILEGE, just like a Rolls Royce or anything else of that ilk.

But I guess that would just mean all three of the "inalienable rights" do not exist, because you can't allow me the other two.

Mike

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Sun, 2 Jul 2017 13:34:10 -0700 (PDT), darkst...@gmail.com wrote:

>No, that makes healthcare - and hence life - a PRIVILEGE, just like a Rolls Royce or anything else of that ilk.
>
>But I guess that would just mean all three of the "inalienable rights" do not exist, because you can't allow me the other two.
>
>Mike

The rights DO exist, but your are not sufficiently advanced mentally
to comprehend their meaning.

Jun 17, 2017 - The U.S. Declaration of Independence states: “We hold
these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal and
endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights including
life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”

1. All men are NOT created equal - except for the soul if you are a
Christian.
2. Life is temporary.
3. Liberty is based on not being incarcerated.
4. Pursuit of hapiness does not guarantee happiness.

That is not to say that incompetent people spin those rights to differ
from the facts - and I expect you will.

[unclejr]

On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 2:33:03 PM UTC-5, Ken Olson wrote:
> http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/07/01/kamala-harris-gets-crushed-with-facts-after-claiming-gop-wants-to-steal-health-care-from-americans/

The Blaze? Really? Talk about fake news.

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 2:54:54 PM UTC-7, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:

> The rights DO exist, but your are not sufficiently advanced mentally
> to comprehend their meaning.

And then you go and say the exact opposite.

> Jun 17, 2017 - The U.S. Declaration of Independence states: “We hold
> these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal and
> endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights including
> life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”
>
> 1. All men are NOT created equal - except for the soul if you are a
> Christian.

I think we would go a long way in this country once we admit this fact. All are not and never have been created equally.

> 2. Life is temporary.

And there is no inherent right to it, especially under the Republican and Conservative platforms.

> 3. Liberty is based on not being incarcerated.

That'd be one way to go about it, but I think it far simpler:

> 4. Pursuit of hapiness does not guarantee happiness.

And here's where your argument falls apart. We're not even to the concept of result here. If a person's pursuit of happiness -- even the act of pursuit -- sufficiently violates the safety of important-enough others, than that person has neither liberty nor the right to pursue happiness.

Mike

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 03:06:41 -0700 (PDT), darkst...@gmail.com wrote:

>On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 2:54:54 PM UTC-7, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:

>> 1. All men are NOT created equal - except for the soul if you are a
>> Christian.
>

>I think we would go a long way in this country once we admit this fact. Al=

>l are not and never have been created equally.

Is that some light at the end of the liberal tunnel?
>
>> 2. Life is temporary.
>
>And there is no inherent right to it, especially under the Republican and C=
>onservative platforms.

Who died or was denied treatment because of any political platform?
Only liberals are stupid enough to think socialism is the only way, i.
e., round is not the best shape for a wheel.

>
>> 3. Liberty is based on not being incarcerated.
>
>That'd be one way to go about it, but I think it far simpler:
>
>> 4. Pursuit of hapiness does not guarantee happiness.
>
>And here's where your argument falls apart.

That's the ONLY fact.

>We're not even to the concept of result here.

Your source, the DoI is silent on that.

>If a person's pursuit of happiness -- even the act of purs=
>uit -- sufficiently violates the safety of important-enough others, than th=

>at person has neither liberty nor the right to pursue happiness.

It surely works if the other side gets killed.

If that pursuit endangers wage earners, you die,too, because there is
no golden goose.

[xyzzy]

On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 4:23:31 PM UTC-4, Some dued wrote:
> Articles about someone getting crushed or destroyed are up there with "weird old trick" and "your jaw will drop when you see".

Right up there with BOOM!

(unless it's a poast about supersonic jets)

[Emperor Wonko the Sane]

On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 12:12:24 AM UTC-5, darkst...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 12:33:03 PM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:
> > http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/07/01/kamala-harris-gets-crushed-with-facts-after-claiming-gop-wants-to-steal-health-care-from-americans/
>
> The only thing about that which would be "fact" if that were the case would imply Americans have no right to health care -- which would mean they don't have a right to live either.
>

I'll take false dichotomies for $200, Alex.

Doug

[xyzzy]

She may not be but she must be someone to watch if wingnuts are so obsessed with trying to slap her down.

[Ken Olson]

If the loons are promoting her she must be bad.

[Ken Olson]

The problem is????

[Con Reeder, unhyphenated American]

Well, it could be that she's just that bad and it is fun to watch
people make fools of themselves defending her. Kind of like Trump
or Clinton.

--
Life may not be quite the party we hoped for, but while we
are here we might as well dance. -- Anonymous

[Emperor Wonko the Sane]

We're just trying to see if she's a stupid a Boxer. Prolly not. Boxer set the bar VERRRRRRRRY high.

Doug

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Monday, July 3, 2017 at 5:04:25 AM UTC-7, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 03:06:41 -0700 (PDT), darkst...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 2:54:54 PM UTC-7, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
>
> >> 1. All men are NOT created equal - except for the soul if you are a
> >> Christian.
> >
> >I think we would go a long way in this country once we admit this fact. Al=
> >l are not and never have been created equally.
>
> Is that some light at the end of the liberal tunnel?

No. It's the only explanation that allows my intelligent mind to wrap around that you've been allowed to live so long.

> >> 2. Life is temporary.
> >
> >And there is no inherent right to it, especially under the Republican and C=
> >onservative platforms.
>
> Who died or was denied treatment because of any political platform?
> Only liberals are stupid enough to think socialism is the only way, i.
> e., round is not the best shape for a wheel.

You're about to see millions do so, because "socialism", as you term it, is the only reason this country has 320 million people in it, and not, say, 200 million, give or take each way.

> >> 3. Liberty is based on not being incarcerated.
> >
> >That'd be one way to go about it, but I think it far simpler:
> >
> >> 4. Pursuit of hapiness does not guarantee happiness.
> >
> >And here's where your argument falls apart.
>
> That's the ONLY fact.

Because you completely confuse the concept. You're taking it too far down the road.

You don't even have a blanket right to PURSUE happiness. Forget the result, that's irrelevant.

> >If a person's pursuit of happiness -- even the act of purs=
> >uit -- sufficiently violates the safety of important-enough others, than th=
> >at person has neither liberty nor the right to pursue happiness.
>
> It surely works if the other side gets killed.

Proving my point. Again, there's no statement on result. The PURSUIT is sufficient.

> If that pursuit endangers wage earners, you die,too, because there is
> no golden goose.

Then you better bring it on, Jack.

Mike

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 20:48:28 -0700 (PDT), darkst...@gmail.com wrote:

>Then you better bring it on, Jack.
>
>Mike

You appear to be the best reason this country should work harder to
eliminate child abuse.

[Ken Olson]

I wish someone would bring it on. I need the practice.

[Michael Press]

In article <3c425688-eec9-4840...@googlegroups.com>,

darkst...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 12:33:03 PM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:
> > http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/07/01/kamala-harris-gets-crushed-with-facts-after-claiming-gop-wants-to-steal-health-care-from-americans/
>
> The only thing about that which would be "fact" if that were the case would imply Americans have no right to health care -- which would mean they don't have a right to live either.
>

We all have healthcare readily available.
The right to life is the right to defend one's life.
There is no right to demand other people to take care of you.

--
Michael Press

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 5:21:26 AM UTC-7, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:

> You appear to be the best reason this country should work harder to
> eliminate child abuse.

Son, you best hope I don't engage in some elder abuse.

Mike

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 12:38:22 PM UTC-7, Michael Press wrote:

> We all have healthcare readily available.
> The right to life is the right to defend one's life.
> There is no right to demand other people to take care of you.

Then there is no right to your safety either.

You forget something you Rethuglipigs need to remember quickfast: A lot of this is to make sure that some of us don't kill some of you.

Mike

[Ken Olson]

Please come and try.

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 1:45:41 PM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:
> On 7/4/2017 3:50 PM, darkst...@gmail.com wrote:

> > You forget something you Rethuglipigs need to remember quickfast: A lot of this is to make sure that some of us don't kill some of you.

> Please come and try.

Fine by me.

Mike