On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 13:35:02 -0800 (PST),
Yosem...@byteme.com
wrote:
>On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 2:20:57 PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:
>> On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 8:35:44 AM UTC-8,
btpag...@gmail.com wr=
>ote:
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>> >=20
>> > Yet the irony is that the vision for =E2=80=9Cthis country=E2=80=9D is =
>not yet fully realized. It=E2=80=99s a place they want to be but not a pla=
>ce that =E2=80=9Cis=E2=80=9D. What they really mean is that there is a gro=
>up of people that value individualism and that value the embodiment of that=
> in our constitution that are standing in the way of their vision of a gove=
>rnment taking care of us as a collective.
>>=20
>> this country has always been divided into two groups. One believes in per=
>sonal freedom first. The other believes in equality first. They're both nob=
>le objectives, often at odds against each other.=20
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>> ($1 to A. de Tocqueville)
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>> Of course, very few of us are 100% one or the other. In fact we tend to l=
>abel that type of person "an extremist".
>
>de T is a good read. =20
>
>Only one objective is an attainable reality, individual freedom. That stan=
>ds alone in the undeniable rights of man. If free to be is there then equa=
>lity is there as well.
>
>Now the real objective is to find a definition of equal that applies equall=
>y to society as well as the free man without limiting the free man's right(=
>s) that come from being free.
>
>Human nature demands freedom. It does not demand equality.
>
>Wars are fought for freedom, not for equality.
>
>Heck, there wasn't equality in the garden of Eden and God created that. Ho=
>w are we going to create a society that treats everybody equal? :)
>
>~YS~
Seems to me we should be striving for equal opportunity. Except for
the soul there is no equality whether legislated or not.
Hugh