Kathy Griffin

[agavi...@gmail.com]

Andy Dick in an alternate gender?

[Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger]

Face-wise, she makes Sarah Jessica Parker look like a model of healthy proportion.

[xyzzy]

On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 2:56:36 PM UTC-4, the_andr...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Andy Dick in an alternate gender?

What am I missing? Why are the wingers suddenly posting about someone who made a career as a D-list celebrity?

[GrtArtiste]

If Kathy G has a "career" as D-list celebrity, maybe there is still
hope for me to become a F-list celebrity.

GrtArtiste

[Emperor Wonko the Sane]

She posted a picture holding Trump's bloody head.

Doug

[agavi...@gmail.com]

Twitter blew up because she did somethhtinf that anyone on the right would lose their job for.

[JGibson]

On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-4, the_andr...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Twitter blew up because she did somethhtinf that anyone on the right would lose their job for.

And she lost her job.

[xyzzy]

Btw that was in reference to this: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0476916/

[agavi...@gmail.com]

She has a job?

[Michael Press]

In article <2d6c6a26-6eb0-4194...@googlegroups.com>,
"the_andr...@yahoo.com" <agavi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> She has a job?

She is one of Ken's middle aged redheads.

--
Michael Press

[Ken Olson]

That's not a job. It's a mission.

[Eric Ramon]

I like how Trump was quicker to tweet about her than he was about what happened here in Portland. But whatever, right?

[Ken Olson]

Nobody in Portland was holding his bloody severed head.

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 3:00:46 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:

The photo of her holding up a mockup decapitated head of Pres Trump?

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Wed, 31 May 2017 23:37:13 -0400, Ken Olson <kol...@freedomnet.org>
wrote:

I thought it was funny - but I think anti-Trump people are funny in
more ways than one. Those losers will not get consolation from me -
unless they react within lawfaul means and assist in stopping those
who don't.

If the press glamorizes the issue that type activity will expand. If
someone does a reduced darkstar (don't kill her) it might slow the
show.

Hugh

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[xyzzy]

Yeah I missed that.

I assume the wingnut-o-sphere only got around to Kathy Griffin after finishing their denunciations of Ted Nugent, right?

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ted-nugent-threatens-to-kill-barack-obama-and-hillary-clinton-during-vicious-onstage-rant-20070824

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

This is a much better spot for AND instead of yabbut

[agavi...@gmail.com]

Your tit for tat would be better received if...

- you had better tits
- any of us was denouncing her
- any of us cared about Ted Nugent

[dotsla...@gmail.com]

Your tears of righteous indignation would be better received if:

- anyone cared about Katy Griffith
- she hadn't been fired
- wingers hadn't applauded nugents any means necessary approach

Cheers.

[dotsla...@gmail.com]

Ch - I think this is a pretty good spot to discuss how the similar despicable actions (implicit AND, lol) were received.

Griffith was immediately called out by a crapton of politicians and talking heads on the left. Lost her job at that "left wing operation", cnn. And was cajoled by her peers to issue an almost immediate apology.

Nugent had a sharp uptick in record sales, was treated fantastically on several visits to fox news shows, kicked off a nationwide tour, and was invited to a personal meeting with trump in the oval office.

So, like - I'm OK with how folks on the left reacted this week. How do you feel about the reaction to nugent from the right?

Cheers.

[Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger]

Winners write the history books.

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

Not thrilled - nor was I thrilled w/ the Obama effigy crap that went down - nor am I thrilled by a freakin' decapitated head etc etc etc etc

And as good as the actions of the above are to decry this kind of crap, there's an awful lot of people who are supporting Griffith too - like Sen Franken who, yesterday, iterated his upcoming gig with her.

[dotsla...@gmail.com]

I don't know if I agree with "an awful lot"; especially relative to the many who immediately reacted negatively.

Follow-up question. Has nugent ever apologized? Has anyone on the right ever asked him to?

I like that this happened because the main response I saw on the left was shaking heads (ha!), "no no no", "wtf?". I hope that means in spite of being creamed up and down left and right in elections since 2010, most progressives haven't widely adopted the old "any means necessary" mentality.

My conservative friends and family aren't my #!!$ing enemies. They're people with the same basic motivations I have - raise good kids in a society structured to reward folks willing to work hard - they just have different ideas about how to get there.

And I know most all of them feel the same way about me, even if they got pretty frothy from 2008 - 2016.

(Of course I tend to avoid True Believers from either side - them folks that think they have all the answers (or can find them in *a* book) are terrifying - and most of my conservative peeps are fiscons, not crazed luna^H^H^H^Hsoccons).

Cheers.

[Michael Press]

In article <ognnf4$a2p$1...@dont-email.me>,

:)

--
Michael Press

[Ken Olson]

We excuse Uncle Ted because he's the crazy uncle at the dinner table.

[Ken Olson]

I think this is the most sensible poast you've ever made.

[michael anderson]

On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 1:15:38 PM UTC-5, dotsla...@gmail.com wrote:
> I don't know if I agree with "an awful lot"; especially relative to the many who immediately reacted negatively.
>
> Follow-up question. Has nugent ever apologized? Has anyone on the right ever asked him to?

most of us on the right don't consider ted nugent anything more than an attention seeking idiot who is completely irrelevant and whose music was terribly even 3-4 decades ago when he was a B/C celebrity then.....

we're not going to ask someone to apologize who we don't care about and doesn't represent or speak for us.

[JGibson]

On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 2:15:38 PM UTC-4, dotsla...@gmail.com wrote:

> My conservative friends and family aren't my #!!$ing enemies. They're people with the same basic motivations I have - raise good kids in a society structured to reward folks willing to work hard - they just have different ideas about how to get there.
>
> And I know most all of them feel the same way about me, even if they got pretty frothy from 2008 - 2016.
>
> (Of course I tend to avoid True Believers from either side - them folks that think they have all the answers (or can find them in *a* book) are terrifying - and most of my conservative peeps are fiscons, not crazed luna^H^H^H^Hsoccons).
>

Most of my conservative extended family does appear to be soccons. Their main concerns? That Target is going to mix toys instead of having boys and girls toys, that gays aren't allowed to marry, if they even exist, and that the North contained the real slave-holding states and the south was about to release their slaves. And that Kaepernick kneeled for the national anthem.

[Futbol Phan]

[Futbol Phan]

On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 2:04:12 PM UTC-5, michael anderson wrote:

> most of us on the right don't consider ted nugent anything more than an attention seeking idiot who is completely irrelevant

Most completely irrelevant people don't get an invite into the Oval Office from the POTUS. Or consider running for the U.S. Senate as a GOP candidate:
http://www.salon.com/2017/02/17/ted-nugent-joins-kid-rock-as-potential-candidate-for-u-s-senate-race-in-michigan/

[Michael Press]

In article <13addd43-cf63-4cf2...@googlegroups.com>,

xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 6:43:37 AM UTC-4, The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 3:00:46 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 2:56:36 PM UTC-4, the_andr...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > Andy Dick in an alternate gender?
> > >
> > > What am I missing? Why are the wingers suddenly posting about someone who made a career as a D-list celebrity?
> >
> > The photo of her holding up a mockup decapitated head of Pres Trump?
>
> Yeah I missed that.
>
> I assume the wingnut

...

--
Michael Press

[Con Reeder, unhyphenated American]

Amazingly, she held a press conference and claimed to be Trump's victim.
"He broke me!"

--
Being against torture ought to be sort of a bipartisan thing.
-- Karl Lehenbauer

[dotsla...@gmail.com]

"And that Kaepernick kneeled for the national anthem."

Wait, that's not a thing? #!$!, no wonder everyone at the memorial day parade was giving me the stinkeye...

Cheers.

[JGibson]

On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 4:01:38 PM UTC-4, dotsla...@gmail.com wrote:
> "And that Kaepernick kneeled for the national anthem."
>
> Wait, that's not a thing? #!$!, no wonder everyone at the memorial day parade was giving me the stinkeye...
>

And another one this week. Not family. His biggest concern about Lebron James getting the N word painted on his fence was that he probably has rap music in his car where they use the N-word derivative.

[Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger]

There was a time where I would've broken one off in her...

[Ken Olson]

Ever listened to Patti Smith "RNR N"?

[JGibson]

No.

[Ken Olson]

Try it.