Gawd the GOP sucks...

[Futbol Phan]

Bud Light? Are you kidding me? At least they could celebrate the elimination of health care for millions with some decent cerveza.

[JGibson]

On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 11:20:26 AM UTC-4, Futbol Phan wrote:
> Bud Light? Are you kidding me? At least they could celebrate the elimination of health care for millions with some decent cerveza.

A foreign beer? Are you kidding me? They are representing real America.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Fri, 5 May 2017 08:20:24 -0700 (PDT), Futbol Phan
<sgz...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Bud Light? Are you kidding me? At least they could celebrate the elimination of health care for millions with some decent cerveza.

Obama didn't invent healthcare, dumbshit. It worked for more than 200
years before that sad sack of socialist shit came along.

Hugh

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[Futbol Phan]

On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 11:21:31 AM UTC-5, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
> On Fri, 5 May 2017 08:20:24 -0700 (PDT), Futbol Phan
> <sgz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Bud Light? Are you kidding me? At least they could celebrate the elimination of health care for millions with some decent cerveza.
>
> Obama didn't invent healthcare, dumbshit. It worked for more than 200
> years before that sad sack of socialist shit came along.
>

Where exactly did I say that Obama invented healthcare, you senile racist lying piece of shit?

[agavi...@gmail.com]

Some folks have been banned from accessing healthcare?

[dotsla...@gmail.com]

Gawd the "pretending theoretical access to healthcare many can't afford means actual access" argument sucks...

Outside of serving the "gotcha points" role, it's just so empty and meaningless and never actually addresses the point being made, while also indicating that the responder knows exactly what the actual point being made is and chooses to be #endlesslypedantic deliberately.

Cheers.

[agavi...@gmail.com]

Budweiser is a foreign beer

[agavi...@gmail.com]

Gawd the pretending Obamacare gave everyone magical access to once inexistant healthcare sux.

[Futbol Phan]

On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 12:47:42 PM UTC-5, the_andr...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Some folks have been banned from accessing healthcare?

Who said 'banned'? Other than you?

[agavi...@gmail.com]

Maybe you're thinking of some other way the can accomplish the "elimination of health care for millions".

[Eric Ramon]

On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 12:28:05 PM UTC-7, the_andr...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Maybe you're thinking of some other way the can accomplish the "elimination of health care for millions".

if you define "banning" as "the insurance companies can decide whether they want you on their rolls" then maybe. But that is saying that health insurance equals health care, which isn't true. Even if the companies don't want to insure you, you can still get health care if you pay for it yourself, thus you're not "banned". However the millions referred to are people who will be turned down by insurance companies and who cannot afford to pay for that health care.

[agavi...@gmail.com]

> if you define "banning" as "the insurance companies can decide whether they want you on their rolls"

I didn't.

> But that is saying that health insurance equals health care

I'm not.

> However the millions referred to are people who will be turned down by insurance companies and
> who cannot afford to pay for that health care.

There are many things, including certain types of healthcare which I cannot afford. I don't believe I'm entitled to them.

[dotsla...@gmail.com]

Gawd the pretending Obamacare gave everyone magical access to once inexistant healthcare sux.

I've never seen anyone pretend that's true. "Magical access"? Is a genie involved?

Otoh, I have seen you hammer the "but everyone already and always did have access to healthcare" talking point.

So I guess you're pretending to be mad about stupid shit nobody ever said and I'm pointing out stupid shit you actually said.

Those seem different to me even though you're keen on them being the same.

Cheers.

[dotsla...@gmail.com]

What non-elective procedure do you need but can't afford, drew?

We should get an rsfc gofundme thing going for ya.

Cheers.

[Con Reeder, unhyphenated American]

And they're all gonna DIE! Or so say the Democrat's talking heads...

--
"Labor relations" now means government workers negotiating with
government workers to decide how much non-government workers
need to pay government workers. -- David Burge

[Some dued]

Don't worry its gonna be better and cheaper!

[Ken Olson]

On 5/5/2017 12:40 PM, Futbol Phan wrote:
> senile racist lying piece of shit?

??? He's not a liberal.

[Ken Olson]

On 5/5/2017 4:04 PM, dotsla...@gmail.com wrote:
> "Magical access"? Is a genie involved?

Just the Magic Negro.

[dotsla...@gmail.com]

99% of white nationalists are reliable voters for the good ol' gop, Ken. I know thats a sore point for the vast majority of y'all non-racist goppers, but it's still true.

The only more reliable republican votes are the young earthers (99.9%) and the doomsday preppers (99.99%). Don't look those figures up though - just be wowed by my faux precision.

Cheers.

[irishra...@gmail.com]

On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 11:20:26 AM UTC-4, Futbol Phan wrote:

> Bud Light? Are you kidding me? At least they could celebrate the elimination of health care for millions with some decent cerveza.

The only thing the GOP health care plan eliminates is a $trillion dollars a year in Obama Care taxes!
Not to mention that the entire Obama Care fiasco was in a death spiral. However, they should
have served Guinness.

Irish Mike

President Trump is Obama's legacy.

[Ken Olson]

On 5/5/2017 4:18 PM, Con Reeder, unhyphenated American wrote:
> On 2017-05-05, Eric Ramon <ramon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 12:28:05 PM UTC-7, the_andr...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> Maybe you're thinking of some other way the can accomplish the "elimination of health care for millions".
>>
>> if you define "banning" as "the insurance companies can decide whether
>> they want you on their rolls" then maybe. But that is saying that
>> health insurance equals health care, which isn't true. Even if the
>> companies don't want to insure you, you can still get health care if
>> you pay for it yourself, thus you're not "banned". However the
>> millions referred to are people who will be turned down by insurance
>> companies and who cannot afford to pay for that health care.
>
> And they're all gonna DIE! Or so say the Democrat's talking heads...
>

Create the crisis, so government can solve the crisis.

[Ken Olson]

On 5/5/2017 1:47 PM, the_andr...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Some folks have been banned from accessing healthcare?
>

That's what the DNC wants.

[agavi...@gmail.com]

Lighten up Francis.

Everyone does have access to healthcare. However, they don't have a right to compel others to provide services for free.

[Con Reeder, unhyphenated American]

It is amazing how some people think they have more right to the money
in my pocket than I do.

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oil-company employees, secure-border advocates, capitalists, global-
warming agnostics, Cuban refugees, school-choicers.. -- Peter Kirsanow

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Fri, 5 May 2017 09:40:44 -0700 (PDT), Futbol Phan

<sgz...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 11:21:31 AM UTC-5, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
>> On Fri, 5 May 2017 08:20:24 -0700 (PDT), Futbol Phan
>> <sgz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Bud Light? Are you kidding me? At least they could celebrate the elimination of health care for millions with some decent cerveza.
>>
>> Obama didn't invent healthcare, dumbshit. It worked for more than 200
>> years before that sad sack of socialist shit came along.
>>
>
>Where exactly did I say that Obama invented healthcare, you senile racist lying piece of shit?

I am so pleased that no school I, or anyone in my family, ever
attended had to lower their standards so much as to employ a meat head
like you.

Colbert misspoke when he said Trump, he meant you.

OTOH I would have enjoyed attending a school where you taught when I
was a few years younger - we would have fought.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Fri, 5 May 2017 12:50:13 -0700 (PDT), Eric Ramon
<ramon...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 12:28:05 PM UTC-7, the_andr...@yahoo.com wrote:

>> Maybe you're thinking of some other way the can accomplish the "eliminati=

>on of health care for millions".
>

>if you define "banning" as "the insurance companies can decide whether they=
> want you on their rolls" then maybe. But that is saying that health insura=
>nce equals health care, which isn't true. Even if the companies don't want =
>to insure you, you can still get health care if you pay for it yourself, th=
>us you're not "banned". However the millions referred to are people who wil=
>l be turned down by insurance companies and who cannot afford to pay for th=
>at health care.

So may socialists assume people can't be treated without insurance. It
wasn't that way before government socialism crapped in.

Before the liberals Colbert mentioned everyone received healthcare
including black people in the South. I've seen the scars on more than
a score of blacks from razor cuts that were treated.

Many doctors were paid cash, or vegetables or thank yous before the
government stepped in. Many country doctors could have run a Farmer's
Maket as a sideline.

Now my regular physician was unpaid $80,000 last year due to
bankruptcies. He didn't vegetables or thank yous either.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

Before the government took charge, you could have received treatment
for any health problem not involving vanity. Entitlrment was not
questioned before government regulations.

You might not have been treated by the same people, or in the same
facility, as those who could pay.

[Some dued]

Wasn't the government that ruined healthcare, it was insurance and lawyers.

[wolfie]

"the_andr...@yahoo.com" wrote

> Everyone does have access to healthcare. However, they
> don't have a right to compel others to provide services for free.

They do since EMTALA. Thanks Reagan!

[Ken Olson]

On 5/6/2017 10:50 AM, Some dued wrote:
> Wasn't the government that ruined healthcare, it was insurance and lawyers.
>

Them, too.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

Liberal Liar strikes again.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Sat, 6 May 2017 07:50:59 -0700 (PDT), Some dued
<theodo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Wasn't the government that ruined healthcare, it was insurance and lawyers.

Without the involvement of government the opportunity would not have
been there - or it wasn't for at least 150 years.

So you are correct technically but not by cause and effect.

[The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior]

On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 10:20:26 AM UTC-5, Futbol Phan wrote:
> Bud Light? Are you kidding me? At least they could celebrate the elimination of health care for millions with some decent cerveza.

The Bud Light was for a different group.

The Trump 24 hour is still in effect.

[RoddyMcCorley]

Where is the lie? It was enacted in 1986 under Reagan.

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with evil.

Pennsylvania - Tá sé difriúil anseo.

[xyzzy]

On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 1:03:50 PM UTC-4, RoddyMcCorley wrote:
> On 5/7/2017 10:18 AM, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
> > On Sat, 6 May 2017 12:36:54 -0400, "wolfie" <bgbd...@gte.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "the_andr...@yahoo.com" wrote
> >>
> >>> Everyone does have access to healthcare. However, they
> >>> don't have a right to compel others to provide services for free.
> >>
> >> They do since EMTALA. Thanks Reagan!
> >
> > Liberal Liar strikes again.
> >
> > Hugh
> >
> >
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> Where is the lie? It was enacted in 1986 under Reagan.

It's a lie because Hugh doesn't want to believe it.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Fri, 12 May 2017 13:03:54 -0400, RoddyMcCorley
<Roddy.M...@verizon.net> wrote:

>On 5/7/2017 10:18 AM, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
>> On Sat, 6 May 2017 12:36:54 -0400, "wolfie" <bgbd...@gte.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "the_andr...@yahoo.com" wrote
>>>
>>>> Everyone does have access to healthcare. However, they
>>>> don't have a right to compel others to provide services for free.
>>>
>>> They do since EMTALA. Thanks Reagan!
>>
>> Liberal Liar strikes again.
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>>
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>Where is the lie? It was enacted in 1986 under Reagan.

Everyone has always had access to healthcare since the 40s at least to
my personal knowledge. You might think that black people in the South
did not - BUT THEY DID. They might get cut up on Saturday night but
they got treatment. I don't know exactly where they went but I still
don't see any in doctor's offices now - what has changed?

Go back to 1900 and people often medicated themselves because there
was no doctor or hospital near their rural community. But people can
still point out where the old doctorr's house was and he made house
calls - even in my youth.

Now if you want opiods go to different doctors and get hooked with
multiple prescriptions. I threw more than half my hydrocodone away
after bypass surgery because I was scared of it. It was better to hurt
just a little. I used to think everybody did that.

Health care was affordable in the 40s - you paid with vegetables if
you didn't have cash. If you had neither you still got treated.
Doctors offices were a doctor and a nurse.Now they are a doctor, nurse
and about 5 people to do government paper work.

Doctors are shortening their work week, limiting new patients
especially government insured and forming groups in the large cities
for a regular monthly fee to make house calls 24/7/365. You pay cash
up front and file personally if you have insurance.

The problem with so many people now is they think they invented the
wheel when all they are doing is trying to find a better shape than
round.

Those were the good old days - the problem is that people can't handle
them anymore. People like me have raised the screwup generation.

Why is it a lie? I have called him a liar about his military service
and he has yet to prove he isn't. I don't think he can run far enough
to hide.

I appreciate you asking in such a non-confrontational way that I could
respond without overly abusing anyone.

Hugh

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Fri, 12 May 2017 10:15:05 -0700 (PDT), xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com>
wrote:

No, it's a lie because he has not proved me wrong. If he can I admit
my errors. At this point I might even accept his lie as fact.

Those in combat should be proud of their service. That doesn't cause
me to be ashamed that was a little too young to finish high school and
get there the month the war was over or because by my test scores I
was destined to command men like him instead of being one of them.

But what you said is also a good enough reason.

Thanks for playing.

Hugh