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Maybe it's me, but Reservoir Dogs is not a good movie

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Pauli G

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Sep 14, 2009, 10:23:46 PM9/14/09
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I've somewhat worked backwards through the Tarantino catalog, and just
watched RD tonight. Boring movie. Some good dialog here and there,
but overall just dull.

Chris Mihos

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Sep 14, 2009, 10:28:24 PM9/14/09
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Nah, it's just you.

mianderson

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Sep 14, 2009, 10:36:22 PM9/14/09
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eh....it's maybe worth watching once.....it does have it's moments.
But it's certainly not a great movie for me. If hype and media
exposure a way more than a decade after a movie was released could
make a movie great, RD would certainly be great.......

but there is more to a movie being great than endless media buzz and a
bunch of 16 year old guys who just saw the movie a few years ago
calling it great....

if you are a follower, you think RD is great. If you are a leader,
you think it is ok but massively overrated by a bunch of now 9th
graders just going by what rolling stone or whatever told them....

Tony Rice

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Sep 14, 2009, 11:05:41 PM9/14/09
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Pauli G <rio...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:7cf93cf3-4aa4-4de2-927a-
ac7135...@r36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com:

> I've somewhat worked backwards through the Tarantino catalog, and just
> watched RD tonight. Boring movie. Some good dialog here and there,
> but overall just dull.

nope, its you;

Jim Brown

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Sep 14, 2009, 11:19:05 PM9/14/09
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IAWTP

Chris Bellomy

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Sep 14, 2009, 11:30:12 PM9/14/09
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Pauli G wrote, On 9/14/09 9:23 PM:

> I've somewhat worked backwards through the Tarantino catalog, and just
> watched RD tonight. Boring movie. Some good dialog here and there,
> but overall just dull.

It's just you. But that's ok, it doesn't have to be your
cup of tea.

cb

Pauli G

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Sep 14, 2009, 11:50:03 PM9/14/09
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wierd thing is that I liked some of his other work. Pulp Fiction,
great movie. Kill Bill Vol 1, great movie.

Goro

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Sep 15, 2009, 12:39:27 AM9/15/09
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I liked it ok, but i really like Ringo Lam's CITY ON FIRE which was
the original source material. Chow Yun-Fat and Danny Lee playiing the
opposite roles of their famous ones in THE KILLER.

Ringo Lam never got the acclaim of John Woo, but in the 90s HK Heroic
bloodshed movies, he made some really excellent ones and movies that
were far more grounded than Woo's.

-goro-

Jim Brown

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Kill Bills were some of the worst tripe I've ever seen. Horrible with
a capital W.

swangdb

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Sep 15, 2009, 8:14:57 AM9/15/09
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On Sep 14, 10:50 pm, Pauli G <rior...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> wierd thing is that I liked some of his other work.  Pulp Fiction,
> great movie.   Kill Bill Vol 1, great movie.

KB V1 is probably my favorite Tarantino film.

I like RD too. At least, I think I do, I haven't seen it in years.

Mrs Mookie

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IAWTP ($1)... Didn't like the Kill Bills at ALL. Now, RD... fckin
brilliant...

Mookie

RaginPage

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Sep 15, 2009, 10:33:24 AM9/15/09
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I don't honsetly remember it that well. I saw it years ago. Seems
like I liked it.

I probably wouldn't even watch it today. Excessive violence and
cursing just isn't my thing.

Brent

McMahone

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Sep 15, 2009, 10:43:13 AM9/15/09
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That makes no sense to me at all. I like RD, but thought KB was
dreck. Horrid stuff. I don't turn a movie off in the middle often
when I've rented it, but I did with that one.

RaginPage

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Sep 15, 2009, 10:44:35 AM9/15/09
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So far the most overrated movie I've seen recently is Raging Bull. I
actually turned that one off. I really don't get the hype.

Brent

Mercellus Bohren

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Sep 15, 2009, 12:31:28 PM9/15/09
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THISHOOKSURESMELLSFUNNYRUNAWAYRUNAWAY.

Pauli G

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Sep 15, 2009, 12:36:12 PM9/15/09
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no, it's not bait. I was just expecting more considering all I've
heard about it. I guess Pulp Fiction really is his masterpiece.

The BorgMan

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Pauli G <rio...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:7cf93cf3-4aa4-4de2-927a-
ac7135...@r36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com:

> I've somewhat worked backwards through the Tarantino catalog, and just


> watched RD tonight. Boring movie. Some good dialog here and there,
> but overall just dull.

It's a good, but not great, movie.

--
Aaron

Mercellus Bohren

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Sep 15, 2009, 1:05:09 PM9/15/09
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Unfortunately, people like you wait too long to experience films like
this. If I were to watch Reservoir Dogs today, without having
experienced it's immediate impact in 1992, I might feel the same way
you do. It's a shame people wait so long, until the impact of the
material is lessened by the scores of weak imitations that sprang from
Tarantino's debut film. When you decide to watch The Sopranos for the
first time, a few years from now, you will also probably not
understand what the excitement over that television show was about.
You snooze, you lose. Loser.

Pauli G

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Sep 15, 2009, 1:13:18 PM9/15/09
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I just finished watching the entire The Wire series, which is
contemporary of Sopranos. The Wire stands the test of time, it's
probably the best thing ever put on television. I'm sorry that
pieces of work like RD and Sopranos don't stand the test of time, but
that's the way it is.

Mercellus Bohren

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Sep 15, 2009, 1:21:11 PM9/15/09
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Rarely does anything related to popular culture stand the test of
time. That's why it's called "popular culture." None of this crap is
Shakespeare. If you need your popular culture to be that sort of
thing, then you will always be disappointed. That's why it's important
to keep your ear to the ground, so you don't miss out. Loser. By the
way, I watched The Wire series and the season they spent down on the
docks was very weak. Unwatchable.

Kyle T. Jones

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Sep 15, 2009, 1:37:06 PM9/15/09
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Nah - his best work was as an actor/screenwriter for From Dusk Till Dawn.

Rodriguez Rocks!

Cheers.

Pauli G

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> docks was very weak. Unwatchable.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

well, I thought the second season spoke well to the decline of blue
collar opportunity in communities like Baltimore. It wasn't as good
as the other seasons, but it brought in certain important
considerations about the fabric of a declining urban center.

Michael Press

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In article
<4057b8ac-d5db-477a...@n2g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
Mercellus Bohren <merce...@yahoo.com> wrote:


I did not see these great movies when they came out, and
they had immediate popular appeal:

Maltese Falcon [1941]
The Philadelphia Story [1940]
Laura [1944]
The Glass Key [1942]
His Kind of Woman [1951]
The Thin Man [1934]
Flying Down to Rio [1933]
Big Business [1929]

Enjoyed them thoroughly, and, recommend them all.

This movie did not have immediate popular appeal because
it is underplayed. If you do not think it is very funny
the first time, please watch it once more for luck.

Beat the Devil [1953]

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Michael Press

Pauli G

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On Sep 15, 3:47 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
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> <4057b8ac-d5db-477a-86f9-901c7fbde...@n2g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
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I just love when the Movie Nazis come out of the woodwork getting all
huffy becuase someone doesn't like some movie that deeply moved them.

Michael Press

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Pauli G <rio...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I just love when the Movie Nazis come out of the woodwork getting all
> huffy becuase someone doesn't like some movie that deeply moved them.

What movie am I disparaging?

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Michael Press

Pauli G

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Sep 15, 2009, 4:36:29 PM9/15/09
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On Sep 15, 4:31 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
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I'm sorry, I'm talking about Marcellus. You're a gentleman and
scholar.

The Ghost of Edward M. Kennedy

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"Pauli G" <rio...@hotmail.com> wrote

> > I just love when the Movie Nazis come out of the woodwork getting all
> > huffy becuase someone doesn't like some movie that deeply moved them.
>
> What movie am I disparaging?
<

<I'm sorry, I'm talking about Marcellus. You're a gentleman and
<scholar.

I'm a gentleman and a drunkard, and last time I checked,
I also seem to be dead.

--Tedward


Mercellus Bohren

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Sep 15, 2009, 5:56:48 PM9/15/09
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Deeply moved me? Uh. No. I think it's very good and had great impact
at the time as far as popular culture and film are concerned; you said
it wasn't all that great. We disagree. I added the Loser parts as a
joking aside to see if you'd get all riled up. You didn't. You're
prolly smrat like that. =) I respect your opinion, but I think you're
flat wrong about Reservoir Dogs.

Mercellus Bohren

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Sep 15, 2009, 6:04:43 PM9/15/09
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pffffbbbbttt...unwatchable

Mercellus Bohren

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On Sep 15, 2:47 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> In article
> <4057b8ac-d5db-477a-86f9-901c7fbde...@n2g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,

I believe that 70 years from now there will be those who will want to
see Reservoir Dogs, and will consider it a great movie.

Alexander_ The_Great

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I used to like it a lot. And it is still a good film. But as it's aged,
it has gotten a little less as entertaining as it used to me. (for me).
There are many of films that don't age well. RD kinda sort of is one of
those to me. But if you haven't seen it, you should, it's a "man movie"
after all.

Michael Press

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In article
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Pauli G <rio...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'm sorry, I'm talking about Marcellus.

That'a all right, then.

--
Michael Press

Michael Press

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In article <h8ou2s$dvi$1...@gargoyle.oit.duke.edu>,

"The Ghost of Edward M. Kennedy" <e...@eio.com> wrote:

> I'm a gentleman and a drunkard, and last time I checked,
> I also seem to be dead.

Tipping a young scotch your way. Ahhhh.

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Michael Press

Mercellus Bohren

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On Sep 15, 5:23 pm, Alexander-The-Gr...@webtv.net (Alexander_

To be completely honest, I have not watched it completely since the
year it came out. Once I've seen a movie, I'll check out bits and
pieces when it comes on the classic movie channel, but rarely the
whole thing. Whenever I catch Reservoir Dogs, it seems like every time
it's when Vince has accidentally shot the guy in the back seat and
they have to go do the clean-up at the Tarrantino character's house.

Michael Press

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In article
<ab1d322a-26ea-4f04...@j19g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
Mercellus Bohren <merce...@yahoo.com> wrote:

You are talking about Pulp_Fiction here.

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Michael Press

Mercellus Bohren

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Sep 16, 2009, 6:17:45 AM9/16/09
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On Sep 16, 2:35 am, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
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> <ab1d322a-26ea-4f04-a59f-48e0e7983...@j19g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,

Deer Idot.
I know what I'm talking about here.
This is from Reservoir Dogs; a movie I know by heart.

Pauli G

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> This is from Reservoir Dogs; a movie I know by heart.- Hide quoted text -

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not to be a stickler for details, but don't they go to clean up at a
warehouse?

Mercellus Bohren

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Sep 16, 2009, 9:40:26 AM9/16/09
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Yeah, I was rong on that one detail.
They do go to the warehouse now the I remember it.
When they have to call De Niro over to help coordinate; that was
pretty funny.
Not so funny when he cuts that guy's ear off though.

Pauli G

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> Not so funny when he cuts that guy's ear off though.- Hide quoted text -

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I don't believe De Niro was in that movie.

Mercellus Bohren

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Dude, just trust me on this one--I know Reservoir Dogs. They call De
Niro on the phone to come over and help coordinate the clean-up
because Vince and whatshisname didn't know how to do it fast enough. I
think the cops were on their way to the warehouse or something...I've
kind of forgotten that part. It ends up pretty badly because, at one
point, De Niro cuts off one guy's ear.

Pauli G

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Sep 16, 2009, 10:22:34 AM9/16/09
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> point, De Niro cuts off one guy's ear.- Hide quoted text -

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are you talking about Robert De Niro the actor? He is not in that
movie.

Mercellus Bohren

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Sep 16, 2009, 11:17:49 AM9/16/09
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what?

Pauli G

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> what?- Hide quoted text -

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yes.

Mercellus Bohren

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good. I was worried there for a second or two.

Michael Press

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Sep 16, 2009, 5:54:09 PM9/16/09
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In article
<cd6fe1fb-dfb3-4422...@v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Mercellus Bohren <merce...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Deer Idot.
> I know what I'm talking about here.
> This is from Reservoir Dogs; a movie I know by heart.

There is no Vince character in Reservoir Dogs.
There is a Vincent Vega in Pulp Fiction.
The Tarrantino character in PF is Jimmy Dimmick.
In PF they go to Jimmy Dimmick's house to hide out
after Vincent shoots the guy in the car.
Jimmy keeps going on about his wife.
They wait for Winston Wolfe (Harvey Keitel) to
arrive and direct the clean up.

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Michael Press

Mercellus Bohren

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On Sep 16, 4:54 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> In article
> <cd6fe1fb-dfb3-4422-ab08-ba56522ac...@v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,

My work here is done.

Michael Press

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In article
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Mercellus Bohren <merce...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> My work here is done.

Because you incorrectly put a Vince character in Reservoir Dogs?

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Michael Press

Mercellus Bohren

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Michael Press

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Mercellus Bohren <merce...@yahoo.com> wrote:

No, nothing there.
So you cannot account for how you incorrectly put
a character named Vince in Reservoir Dogs.

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Michael Press

Mercellus Bohren

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On Sep 17, 11:49 am, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
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> <8558f475-e22f-491c-a93b-77cacb153...@w37g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,

Yes, there is a clear and quite obvious explanation. Since you don't
seem to be able to find and read the FAQ for this here chatroom, I
guess you'll always be blissfully ignorant. That's okay. But, you'll
never be a true rsfcker until you figure it out. How you handle this
from here on out is up to you, I've cut the line. =)

Michael Press

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In article
<c5cfd178-c1cc-4d9e...@o13g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
> Yes, there is a clear and quite obvious explanation. Since you don't
> seem to be able to find and read the FAQ for this here chatroom, I
> guess you'll always be blissfully ignorant. That's okay. But, you'll
> never be a true rsfcker until you figure it out. How you handle this
> from here on out is up to you, I've cut the line. =)

Is this your final answer?

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Michael Press

Michael Press

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In article
<c5cfd178-c1cc-4d9e...@o13g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
Mercellus Bohren <merce...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Sep 17, 11:49 am, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <8558f475-e22f-491c-a93b-77cacb153...@w37g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> >  Mercellus Bohren <mercell...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Sep 17, 1:51 am, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
In article

<c5cfd178-c1cc-4d9e...@o13g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,

> Yes, there is a clear and quite obvious explanation. Since you don't
> seem to be able to find and read the FAQ for this here chatroom, I
> guess you'll always be blissfully ignorant. That's okay. But, you'll
> never be a true rsfcker until you figure it out. How you handle this
> from here on out is up to you, I've cut the line. =)

Appears that rsfckers.com is not accessible.
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Tonawanda KARDEX

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Sep 22, 2009, 7:57:56 PM9/22/09
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On Sep 14, 7:23 pm, Pauli G <rior...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I've somewhat worked backwards through the Tarantino catalog, and just
> watched RD tonight. Boring movie. Some good dialog here and there,
> but overall just dull.

Saw it once myself and felt the same way: overrated, overhyped.

Violence is overkill in this one. Not even remotely worthy of praise.

kenney...@aol.com

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On Monday, September 14, 2009 at 10:23:46 PM UTC-4, Pauli G wrote:
> I've somewhat worked backwards through the Tarantino catalog, and just
> watched RD tonight. Boring movie. Some good dialog here and there,
> but overall just dull.

Definitely an overrated movie. The torture scene is completely indulgent, the ending is underdeveloped and there are huge plot holes that its defenders pretend don't exist.

Mercellus Bohren

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I think you meant 'self-indulgent'.

It was a ground-breaking film a quarter century ago. Like most ground-breaking films, it wasn't overrated when it was released, but, after years and years of people claiming it's awesomeness, it does get to be overrated, especially if the directors that copied Tarantino's style, improved on it (see SNATCH).

However, that scene where Jules is in the apartment and starts quoting the bible was pretty classic.

the_andr...@yahoo.com

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Tarantino is both idiot and genius.

He’s a genius in that he’s made gazillions and gotten people to believe he’s a genius by creating the most ridiculously base films this side of porn.

He’s an idiot in that his movies are incredibly easily replicated.

<scene: green screen is fine, this works anywhere>

DIE YOU FUCKING FUCK!

BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!

<blood splatter>

<end scene:>

xyzzy

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Jul 30, 2018, 4:47:27 PM7/30/18
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When Pulp Fiction came out, I went to see it at the brewhouse across the street from NC State. The film broke halfway through and they gave us a coupon to come back and see it later for free. I never did.

That is the full extent of my exposure to Tarantino films

You confirmed that I'm not missing out on much.

unclejr

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Jul 30, 2018, 6:24:27 PM7/30/18
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The Hateful Eight was awesome.

the_andr...@yahoo.com

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If you saw the first half, then you've seen everything he made.

Mercellus Bohren

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Jul 31, 2018, 7:29:23 AM7/31/18
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You guys are nuts.

If you don’t like ‘Inglorious Basterds’ then there’ something seriously wrong with you.

Please to be checking it out:
https://youtu.be/mFMPXHNz2jM

the_andr...@yahoo.com

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That film is a perfect example.

If I remember correctly, I watched some small segment and was presented a scene where a guy was beaten with a baseball bat.

And, of course, the spelling of the title reminds me of some middle school metal head making up dream band names like “Rockit Godz” or tuner geek with a vinyl “MoterWerkz” on his lame 03 Civic.

Come to think of it, I suspect Tarantino might just be a giant wussy and the endless violence is how he imagines he would handle folks in his own life, but doesn’t have the strength or nads.

tim.vanwa...@gmail.com

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His movies are way over the top, but still very interesting to see how he brings so many different genres of classic B movies together around an interesting story. Then the soundtracks. The guy is essentially the world’s biggest movie geek who also gets to make his own. We should all be so lucky to get to do something we are that passionate about.

So, yeah RD is dated and not the greatest movie. But it was a pretty incredible first movie for a director and insanely influential.

Me, I think his best was Django Unchained followed by Inglorious Basterds. Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown and The Kill Bills are all good in parts. Really didn’t care for Hateful Eight at all and skipped his Rodriguez collaborations as they were just too much gratuitous violence for my taste.

Mercellus Bohren

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On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 9:13:09 AM UTC-4, tim.vanwa...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Me, I think his best was Django Unchained followed by Inglorious Basterds. Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown and The Kill Bills are all good in parts. Really didn’t care for Hateful Eight at all and skipped his Rodriguez collaborations as they were just too much gratuitous violence for my taste.

I would put in order Inglorious Basterds and Pulp Fiction at the top. I still enjoy watching parts of Reservoir Dogs whenever I run across it, just because it was so remarkable at the time and I like the sound track. I've enjoyed Rodriguez's El Mariachi and Sin City, but, yeah, those Grindhouse films I've found distasteful and couldn't watch.

This is one of my favorite scenes of all time:
Opening scene, diner, Reservoir Dogs, https://youtu.be/V4sbYy0WdGQ.

Some dued

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I remember watching The French Connection in the early 90s and wondering what the big deal was. Another movie that became a forgotten prototype.

Some dued

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Jul 31, 2018, 10:17:54 AM7/31/18
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Did Press ever come to understand that he lost the Robert DeNiro argument?

Mercellus Bohren

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On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 10:17:54 AM UTC-4, Some dued wrote:
> Did Press ever come to understand that he lost the Robert DeNiro argument?

shhhh..... He's lurking around my first response from yesterday.

Mercellus Bohren

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On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 10:12:27 AM UTC-4, Some dued wrote:
> I remember watching The French Connection in the early 90s and wondering what the big deal was. Another movie that became a forgotten prototype.

Have you seen 'The Conversation' from 1974?

Some dued

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Jul 31, 2018, 2:28:59 PM7/31/18
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I haven't.

Mercellus Bohren

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Jul 31, 2018, 2:44:07 PM7/31/18
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On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 2:28:59 PM UTC-4, Some dued wrote:
> I haven't.

Go into it with the expectation that rotary telephone dials are a thing and you may like it.

Some dued

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Jul 31, 2018, 10:18:11 PM7/31/18
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I'll look for it.
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