Whatever you think of Michigan vs. Florida
Vijay Ramanujan
Florida over Ohio State (that's what it's going to say on Sunday)?
Vijay R.
stephenj
> Can we all agree that Colley's system is just plain goofy for having
> Florida over Ohio State (that's what it's going to say on Sunday)?
um, it had USC over Ohio State, not Florida. that will doubtless change.
http://www.colleyrankings.com/currank.html
plus, it's embarrassing that fans of a team that already had their shot
at tOSU and lost would have the gall to actually be looking at various
formulas for ways their undeserving team can eek in to the title game.
--
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collectivization, the fish immediately disappeared."
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Vijay Ramanujan
stephenj wrote:
> Vijay Ramanujan wrote:
> > Can we all agree that Colley's system is just plain goofy for having
> > Florida over Ohio State (that's what it's going to say on Sunday)?
>
> um, it had USC over Ohio State, not Florida. that will doubtless change.
I said it *will* have Florida over OSU on Sunday.
Colley's webpage lets you put in hypothetical results and see how they
would affect the rankings. Add in Florida > Arkansas and UCLA > USC and
Florida jumps to #1.
That is pretty much indefensible.
Vijay R.
stephenj
> stephenj wrote:
>
>>Vijay Ramanujan wrote:
>>
>>>Can we all agree that Colley's system is just plain goofy for having
>>>Florida over Ohio State (that's what it's going to say on Sunday)?
>>
>>um, it had USC over Ohio State, not Florida. that will doubtless change.
>
>
> I said it *will* have Florida over OSU on Sunday.
oops!
> Colley's webpage lets you put in hypothetical results and see how they
> would affect the rankings. Add in Florida > Arkansas and UCLA > USC and
> Florida jumps to #1.
>
> That is pretty much indefensible.
yes.
wood...@cableone.net
>Can we all agree that Colley's system is just plain goofy for having
>Florida over Ohio State (that's what it's going to say on Sunday)?
That IS very odd. I suppose his algorithm isn't published, right?
..."I am certain that most Americans find your whining unbecoming of an NCO.
Thank you for quitting. This country doesn't need your kind of leadership.
Your kind weaken national security."
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Dale Bright®
wrote:
>Can we all agree that Colley's system is just plain goofy for having
>Florida over Ohio State (that's what it's going to say on Sunday)?
After the game, it might look like a JEANUS!
Dale Bright®
"non compos mentis"
Vijay Ramanujan
Dale Bright® wrote:
> On 2 Dec 2006 21:27:47 -0800, "Vijay Ramanujan" <vrama...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Can we all agree that Colley's system is just plain goofy for having
> >Florida over Ohio State (that's what it's going to say on Sunday)?
>
> After the game, it might look like a JEANUS!
Not a chance in hell.
OSU over Florida is the biggest lock in BCS title game history, bigger
than Miami in 2002, FSU in 2000 or even USC last year.
Vijay R.
Mackerel Snapping Anarchist
That's unpossible. USC last year was by far the greatest team in
college football history, and in fact would have beaten 36 of the 39
super bowl winning teams to that point.
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TO
Dale Bright®
wrote:
>
>Dale Bright® wrote:
>
>> On 2 Dec 2006 21:27:47 -0800, "Vijay Ramanujan" <vrama...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Can we all agree that Colley's system is just plain goofy for having
>> >Florida over Ohio State (that's what it's going to say on Sunday)?
>>
>> After the game, it might look like a JEANUS!
>
>Not a chance in hell.
>OSU over Florida is the biggest lock in BCS title game history, bigger
>than Miami in 2002, FSU in 2000 or even USC last year.
I marked this just in case.
HTH
wood...@cableone.net
>>On 8 Dec 2006 11:56:01 -0800, "Vijay Ramanujan" <vrama...@gmail.com>
>>Not a chance in hell.
>>OSU over Florida is the biggest lock in BCS title game history, bigger
>>than Miami in 2002, FSU in 2000 or even USC last year.
>I marked this just in case.
I could be wrong, but I strongly suspect that was Evil Vijay, not Good
Vijay.
rjo...@soartech.com
> Can we all agree that Colley's system is just plain goofy for having
> Florida over Ohio State (that's what it's going to say on Sunday)?
I haven't been making time to post my GWP rankings this season. But
seeing this note made me decide to collect this season's score and see
what I get, since my formula is somewhat similar to Colley's. I'm
happy to report that our systems are apparently different enough that I
don't get the similarly goofy result...
Rank by rating
Rank Team Rating Opp. Str. Av.Op.Str. Record
1. OHIO ST 0.74692394 5.92617451 0.49384788 12- 0- 0
2. MICHIGAN 0.72182399 6.32377582 0.52698132 11- 1- 0
3. FLORIDA 0.71597755 6.61541630 0.50887818 12- 1- 0
4. LOUISVILLE 0.71184403 6.08425684 0.50702140 11- 1- 0
5. BOISE ST 0.71169346 5.08064316 0.42338693 12- 0- 0
6. SOUTHERN CAL 0.68963544 6.55125057 0.54593755 10- 2- 0
7. LOUISIANA ST 0.67819194 6.27660649 0.52305054 10- 2- 0
8. AUBURN 0.67244876 6.13877018 0.51156418 10- 2- 0
9. NOTRE DAME 0.67162313 6.11895518 0.50991293 10- 2- 0
10. WISCONSIN 0.66914972 5.05959324 0.42163277 11- 1- 0
11. OKLAHOMA 0.66893663 6.39235226 0.49171940 11- 2- 0
12. WEST VIRGINIA 0.65372388 5.68937305 0.47411442 10- 2- 0
13. RUTGERS 0.65090608 5.62174588 0.46847882 10- 2- 0
14. BRIGHAM YOUNG 0.64581248 5.49949958 0.45829163 10- 2- 0
15. VIRGINIA TECH 0.64512336 5.48296055 0.45691338 10- 2- 0
16. WAKE FOREST 0.64317824 5.72263433 0.44020264 11- 2- 0
17. TENNESSEE 0.63958181 6.34996335 0.52916361 9- 3- 0
18. ARKANSAS 0.62727423 6.30912989 0.48531768 10- 3- 0
19. CALIFORNIA 0.61987443 5.87698637 0.48974886 9- 3- 0
20. TEX CHRISTIAN 0.61837440 4.84098570 0.40341548 10- 2- 0
21. TEXAS 0.61746362 5.81912678 0.48492723 9- 3- 0
22. BOSTON COLLEGE 0.60763318 5.58319638 0.46526636 9- 3- 0
23. TEXAS A&M 0.60349861 5.48396668 0.45699722 9- 3- 0
24. HOUSTON 0.60048749 5.61267463 0.43174420 10- 3- 0
25. HAWAII 0.59776374 5.54185718 0.42629671 10- 3- 0
26. OREGON ST 0.59471403 6.46256471 0.49712036 9- 4- 0
27. NEBRASKA 0.58347928 6.17046124 0.47465086 9- 4- 0
28. GEORGIA TECH 0.57964349 6.07073065 0.46697928 9- 4- 0
29. CLEMSON 0.57884570 5.89229681 0.49102473 8- 4- 0
30. CENTRAL MICH 0.57833267 6.03664938 0.46435764 9- 4- 0
31. NAVY 0.57258847 4.74212324 0.39517694 9- 3- 0
32. PENN ST 0.57175221 5.72205308 0.47683776 8- 4- 0
33. MARYLAND 0.56718684 5.61248424 0.46770702 8- 4- 0
34. GEORGIA 0.56530719 5.56737262 0.46394772 8- 4- 0
35. UCLA 0.56294479 6.51067505 0.54255625 7- 5- 0
36. MISSOURI 0.56253048 5.50073155 0.45839430 8- 4- 0
37. TULSA 0.55775689 5.38616534 0.44884711 8- 4- 0
38. SOUTH FLORIDA 0.55647287 5.35534880 0.44627907 8- 4- 0
39. NEVADA 0.55289036 5.26936858 0.43911405 8- 4- 0
40. OHIO 0.55266495 5.36928859 0.41302220 9- 4- 0
41. WESTERN MICH 0.55002031 5.20048737 0.43337395 8- 4- 0
42. SOUTH CAROLINA 0.54387846 6.05308305 0.50442359 7- 5- 0
43. CINCINNATI 0.54353639 6.04487328 0.50373944 7- 5- 0
44. KENTUCKY 0.54186464 6.00475126 0.50039594 7- 5- 0
45. OREGON 0.53754273 5.90102558 0.49175213 7- 5- 0
46. SOUTHERN MISS 0.53546734 5.92215083 0.45555006 8- 5- 0
47. SAN JOSE ST 0.53448121 4.82754915 0.40229576 8- 4- 0
48. RICE 0.53359695 5.80632687 0.48386057 7- 5- 0
49. PURDUE 0.53196928 5.83120129 0.44855395 8- 5- 0
50. ARIZONA ST 0.52911336 5.69872070 0.47489339 7- 5- 0
51. EAST CAROLINA 0.52616359 5.62792616 0.46899385 7- 5- 0
52. TEXAS TECH 0.52412758 5.57906188 0.46492182 7- 5- 0
53. KANSAS ST 0.51654814 5.39715546 0.44976296 7- 5- 0
54. WASHINGTON ST 0.51297396 6.31137508 0.52594792 6- 6- 0
55. MIDDLE TENN ST 0.51183172 5.28396119 0.44033010 7- 5- 0
56. UTAH 0.50989039 5.23736931 0.43644744 7- 5- 0
57. FLORIDA ST 0.50944328 6.22663861 0.51888655 6- 6- 0
58. ARIZONA 0.50730055 6.17521324 0.51460110 6- 6- 0
59. ALABAMA 0.49894996 5.97479914 0.49789993 6- 6- 0
60. NORTHERN ILLI 0.49877139 4.97051345 0.41420945 7- 5- 0
61. MINNESOTA 0.49876962 5.97047095 0.49753925 6- 6- 0
62. OKLAHOMA ST 0.49449380 5.86785128 0.48898761 6- 6- 0
63. TROY 0.49360030 4.84640723 0.40386727 7- 5- 0
64. IOWA 0.48626333 5.67031983 0.47252665 6- 6- 0
65. PITTSBURGH 0.48510991 5.64263783 0.47021982 6- 6- 0
66. WYOMING 0.48250064 5.58001548 0.46500129 6- 6- 0
67. MIAMI FLORIDA 0.47969141 5.51259382 0.45938282 6- 6- 0
68. WASHINGTON 0.47892198 6.49412754 0.54117730 5- 7- 0
69. KANSAS 0.46767825 5.22427795 0.43535650 6- 6- 0
70. SOU METHODIST 0.46650208 5.19604982 0.43300415 6- 6- 0
71. ARKANSAS ST 0.46404442 5.13706602 0.42808884 6- 6- 0
72. NEW MEXICO 0.46130284 5.07126819 0.42260568 6- 6- 0
73. LOUISIANA LFYT 0.45863079 5.00713903 0.41726159 6- 6- 0
74. KENT ST 0.45548702 4.93168843 0.41097404 6- 6- 0
75. VIRGINIA 0.45004229 5.80101500 0.48341792 5- 7- 0
76. INDIANA 0.44979095 5.79498285 0.48291524 5- 7- 0
77. AKRON 0.43385015 5.41240358 0.45103363 5- 7- 0
78. TEXAS EL PASO 0.43229434 5.37506416 0.44792201 5- 7- 0
79. SYRACUSE 0.42815893 6.27581434 0.52298453 4- 8- 0
80. MARSHALL 0.42718956 5.25254941 0.43771245 5- 7- 0
81. BALL ST 0.42179809 5.12315418 0.42692951 5- 7- 0
82. MICHIGAN ST 0.41988447 6.07722721 0.50643560 4- 8- 0
83. CONNECTICUT 0.41886127 6.05267046 0.50438921 4- 8- 0
84. TULANE 0.41790621 6.02974897 0.50247908 4- 8- 0
85. FLORIDA ATL 0.41750852 5.02020453 0.41835038 5- 7- 0
86. AIR FORCE 0.41659789 5.99834930 0.49986244 4- 8- 0
87. TOLEDO 0.41469828 4.95275883 0.41272990 5- 7- 0
88. MISSISSIPPI 0.41160611 5.87854652 0.48987888 4- 8- 0
89. FRESNO ST 0.41112231 5.86693550 0.48891129 4- 8- 0
90. VANDERBILT 0.40849936 5.80398469 0.48366539 4- 8- 0
91. BAYLOR 0.40407875 5.69789004 0.47482417 4- 8- 0
92. NORTHWESTERN 0.40098833 5.62371984 0.46864332 4- 8- 0
93. UCF 0.39450934 5.46822415 0.45568535 4- 8- 0
94. IOWA ST 0.39445483 5.46691600 0.45557633 4- 8- 0
95. IDAHO 0.38931216 5.34349186 0.44529099 4- 8- 0
96. BOWLING GREEN 0.38761137 5.30267299 0.44188942 4- 8- 0
97. COLORADO ST 0.37816960 5.07607047 0.42300587 4- 8- 0
98. LOUISIANA MNRO 0.37758856 5.06212546 0.42184379 4- 8- 0
99. MISSISSIPPI ST 0.37394358 5.97464591 0.49788716 3- 9- 0
100. NORTH CAROLINA 0.36926635 5.86239239 0.48853270 3- 9- 0
101. N CAROLINA ST 0.36669669 5.80072045 0.48339337 3- 9- 0
102. NEW MEXICO ST 0.36395315 4.73487559 0.39457297 4- 8- 0
103. UAB 0.36349454 5.72386904 0.47698909 3- 9- 0
104. ARMY 0.35736071 5.57665712 0.46472143 3- 9- 0
105. SAN DIEGO ST 0.35238873 5.45732960 0.45477747 3- 9- 0
106. NORTH TEXAS 0.34898826 5.37571821 0.44797652 3- 9- 0
107. LOUISIANA TECH 0.34518679 5.97485662 0.45960436 3-10- 0
108. ILLINOIS 0.32951884 5.90845218 0.49237101 2-10- 0
109. BUFFALO 0.32871657 5.88919778 0.49076648 2-10- 0
110. STANFORD 0.32548809 6.81171410 0.56764284 1-11- 0
111. COLORADO 0.31643434 5.59442410 0.46620201 2-10- 0
112. MIAMI OHIO 0.31389887 5.53357278 0.46113106 2-10- 0
113. NEVADA LAS VGS 0.30875608 5.41014591 0.45084549 2-10- 0
114. MEMPHIS 0.30635814 5.35259541 0.44604962 2-10- 0
115. UTAH ST 0.29882837 6.17188093 0.51432341 1-11- 0
116. TEMPLE 0.29755161 6.14123874 0.51176989 1-11- 0
117. EASTERN MICH 0.27964484 5.71147614 0.47595634 1-11- 0
118. DUKE 0.24016914 5.76405939 0.48033828 0-12- 0
119. FLORIDA INTL 0.23175438 5.56210503 0.46350875 0-12- 0
And to follow up on another thread, here are the top 10 toughest
schedules (average opponent strength) according to my system:
1. Stanford
2. Southern Cal
3. UCLA
4. Washington
5. Tennessee
6. Michigan
7. Washington St
8. Louisiana St
9. Syracuse
10. Florida St.