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Charles Beauchamp

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Jul 12, 2004, 10:38:40 PM7/12/04
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Thru the weekend F911 had topped $80m in box office playing on 2011 screens.
The per screen average Friday thru Sunday was $5485.

It's staying power is there. The movie has been spectacularly profitable
well over $60m so far. Comparitively the blockbuster other political flick
of the summer the Day After Tomorrow has profits of just over $7m after 7
weeks.

I am surprised to see America's Heart and Soul actually listed. It only
played on 98 screens. I only first heard of it the Saturday before last.
It won't make $1m in box office unless it plays for years.

At the end of the month Metallica has a Documentary coming out. I bet it
does huge box office in very very limited release.

--
v/r Beau

I am right. You are wrong. Quit arguing with me.


Kokopeli

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Jul 13, 2004, 12:05:22 PM7/13/04
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"Charles Beauchamp" <C.E.Be...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message
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> Thru the weekend F911 had topped $80m in box office playing on 2011
screens.
> The per screen average Friday thru Sunday was $5485.

I'm even surprised. I'm still waiting for the big dropoff. Maybe next week?

Next weekend it'll surpass Jackass in inflation-adjusted numbers, which
should finally shut up the last of the critics about how well it's doing at
the box office.

> It's staying power is there. The movie has been spectacularly profitable
> well over $60m so far. Comparitively the blockbuster other political
flick
> of the summer the Day After Tomorrow has profits of just over $7m after 7
> weeks.

I'm telling you, documentaries are the wave of the future. A studio could
make more off of 20 $10M documentaries than off one $200M blockbuster.And
again, if a conservative could just get hold of a camera....

> I am surprised to see America's Heart and Soul actually listed. It only
> played on 98 screens. I only first heard of it the Saturday before last.
> It won't make $1m in box office unless it plays for years.

I think its real problem is that people don't go out in the summer to feel
good about America. They go out to be entertained. And while heart-warming
stories about gay disabled truck drivers who drive elderly voters to the
polls on the way to scurrying up El Capitan using only his pinkies all make
you feel good about America, they just aren't all that entertaining.

Moore knows how to tell a story and tell it in a way that gets the audience
involved one way or another.

AHS might have done better if they'd released it as IMAX.

> At the end of the month Metallica has a Documentary coming out. I bet it
> does huge box office in very very limited release.

It ran on three screens last weekend and averaged $15,433 per. You're
probably looking at a$20M take, $30M at the outside, but it shouldn't have
cost more than $10M to make, so you've doubled your money there. Of course,
it'll do even better on video....
dw

Charles Beauchamp

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Jul 13, 2004, 12:37:58 PM7/13/04
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Kokopeli wrote:
> "Charles Beauchamp" <C.E.Be...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message
> news:37idnbWGZ-W...@comcast.com...
>> Thru the weekend F911 had topped $80m in box office playing on 2011
>> screens. The per screen average Friday thru Sunday was $5485.
>
> I'm even surprised. I'm still waiting for the big dropoff. Maybe next
> week?
>
> Next weekend it'll surpass Jackass in inflation-adjusted numbers,
> which should finally shut up the last of the critics about how well
> it's doing at the box office.
>

I wonder if it will have the staying power of Jackass in the illegal
copyright infringement file trading world. Not that I pay any attention to
that stuff mind you. Not at all.

>> It's staying power is there. The movie has been spectacularly
>> profitable well over $60m so far. Comparitively the blockbuster
>> other political flick of the summer the Day After Tomorrow has
>> profits of just over $7m after 7 weeks.
>
> I'm telling you, documentaries are the wave of the future. A studio
> could make more off of 20 $10M documentaries than off one $200M
> blockbuster.And again, if a conservative could just get hold of a
> camera....
>

Yep. If anything maybe the money spent advertising F911 was a waste given
the word of screech that preceded and has followed it. If'n I was one of
them big Hollywood producer evil doods I would be ready to bankroll whatever
the blob the roars wants to do next...cept the day he goes megacommercial he
probably is out of his league. Don't get me wrong..I still hate the
guy...but he does what he does well...weller then anyone else I know of. I
mean..I still hate the guy and wish he was a foreigner that we could...you
know..deport to some crappy country like France..but still...

Peach thinks I should start a BeauTeeVee thingy...since real life stuff
sells so well these days <G>

>> I am surprised to see America's Heart and Soul actually listed. It
>> only played on 98 screens. I only first heard of it the Saturday
>> before last. It won't make $1m in box office unless it plays for
>> years.
>
> I think its real problem is that people don't go out in the summer to
> feel good about America. They go out to be entertained. And while
> heart-warming stories about gay disabled truck drivers who drive
> elderly voters to the polls on the way to scurrying up El Capitan
> using only his pinkies all make you feel good about America, they
> just aren't all that entertaining.
>

Nah...I think in the case of this one it is because no one ever heard of it.
It really was entertaining. Just nice stuff. Pretty scenery. I didn't
even want to smack Ben Cohen. Must have cost a lot though. Many of the
scenes were clearly shot years ago. Michael Bennet who is the amature boxer
featured as an Olympian actually fought in the 2000 games in Sydney and has
already had a rather non-descript professional career as a journeyman club
boxer.

> Moore knows how to tell a story and tell it in a way that gets the
> audience involved one way or another.
>
> AHS might have done better if they'd released it as IMAX.
>

A movie with the type of scenery they show in IMAX would be perfect. I will
buy the DVD whenever it comes out. Plus there is even good music
playing...it isn't only the John Cougar Mellencamp theme tune constant. The
theater I saw it in only had a few people in it. After it was done there
was hand clapping and smiles. Can't get much better then that.

>> At the end of the month Metallica has a Documentary coming out. I
>> bet it does huge box office in very very limited release.
>
> It ran on three screens last weekend and averaged $15,433 per. You're
> probably looking at a$20M take, $30M at the outside, but it shouldn't
> have cost more than $10M to make, so you've doubled your money there.
> Of course, it'll do even better on video....
> dw

I misspoke. It comes out our way at the end of the month. I will be
wherever to see it first chance. I am going in expecting to kind of laugh
at some of the stuff. I saw them when I was in high school and no one knew
who the heck they were playing in a roller skating rink thingy...or was it
opening for RAIL...Heck I don't even totally remember. I was prolly drunk.
I remember vaguly thinking..wow..these doods sure are loud. Cool. I can't
wait.

So..now adjusting F911 will probably do $100m box office. Um...the
Metallica thing will show on MTV and VH1 for like the next 15 years unless
it really sucks...oh heck..as if it really matters if it sucks. We are
talking about Metallica. I suck at predicting so I'm going to go ahead and
say the Metallica documentary will go on and on for months and rake in $40m
by year's end without ever being in general realease.

Be glad you don't have a stake in that Garfield movie or the Around the
World in 80 Days. Ouch.

Cornhuskeress

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Jul 13, 2004, 3:26:43 PM7/13/04
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Kokopeli wrote:
> "Charles Beauchamp" <C.E.Be...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message
> news:37idnbWGZ-W...@comcast.com...
>> Thru the weekend F911 had topped $80m in box office playing on 2011
>> screens. The per screen average Friday thru Sunday was $5485.
>
> I'm even surprised. I'm still waiting for the big dropoff. Maybe next
> week?
>
> Next weekend it'll surpass Jackass in inflation-adjusted numbers,
> which should finally shut up the last of the critics about how well
> it's doing at the box office.

This weekend I, Robot is hitting the screens. It should put a pretty nice
dent in everything.
>
--

Geri

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."
- Hillary Clinton


Bryan S. Slick

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Jul 13, 2004, 3:34:05 PM7/13/04
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[Cornhuskeress (cahusk...@sbcglobalGOAWAY.net)]
[Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:26:43 GMT]

:> Next weekend it'll surpass Jackass in inflation-adjusted numbers,


:> which should finally shut up the last of the critics about how well
:> it's doing at the box office.
:
:This weekend I, Robot is hitting the screens. It should put a pretty nice
:dent in everything.

Expect a lot of howling from Asimov fans, similar to the howling by some
Tolkien fans over LOTR.. though the storyline in this adaptation is so
far from any of Asimov's books that it may be worse.

(not that it'll matter, with W. Smith in it)

--
Bryan S. Slick, usenet at slick-family dot net

"To those who have fought for it,
freedom has a flavor the protected will never know."

Alan Mundy

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Jul 13, 2004, 3:39:02 PM7/13/04
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Bryan S. Slick <use...@slick-family.not> wrote in
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> [Cornhuskeress (cahusk...@sbcglobalGOAWAY.net)]
> [Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:26:43 GMT]
>
>:> Next weekend it'll surpass Jackass in inflation-adjusted numbers,
>:> which should finally shut up the last of the critics about how well
>:> it's doing at the box office.
>:
>:This weekend I, Robot is hitting the screens. It should put a pretty
>:nice dent in everything.
>
> Expect a lot of howling from Asimov fans, similar to the howling by
> some Tolkien fans over LOTR.. though the storyline in this adaptation
> is so far from any of Asimov's books that it may be worse.
>
> (not that it'll matter, with W. Smith in it)
>

I suspect that the howling will be both louder and more justified.

People who've read the book simply need to go into it not expecting the
movie to have anything to do with it.

If they do that, I suspect they might find it an enjoyable movie.

--
Alan Mundy

Cornhuskeress

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Jul 13, 2004, 3:40:54 PM7/13/04
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Bryan S. Slick wrote:
> [Cornhuskeress (cahusk...@sbcglobalGOAWAY.net)]
> [Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:26:43 GMT]
>
>>> Next weekend it'll surpass Jackass in inflation-adjusted numbers,
>>> which should finally shut up the last of the critics about how well
>>> it's doing at the box office.
>>
>> This weekend I, Robot is hitting the screens. It should put a
>> pretty nice dent in everything.
>
> Expect a lot of howling from Asimov fans, similar to the howling by
> some Tolkien fans over LOTR.. though the storyline in this adaptation
> is so far from any of Asimov's books that it may be worse.
>
> (not that it'll matter, with W. Smith in it)

I am pretty this movie has nothing in common with the book except the title.
But technology running amok is always good. As you say, W. Smith is in it
and he loves America - he has already saved it from various aliens several
times.

Charles Beauchamp

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Jul 13, 2004, 3:50:32 PM7/13/04
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Bryan S. Slick wrote:
> [Cornhuskeress (cahusk...@sbcglobalGOAWAY.net)]
> [Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:26:43 GMT]
>
>>> Next weekend it'll surpass Jackass in inflation-adjusted numbers,
>>> which should finally shut up the last of the critics about how well
>>> it's doing at the box office.
>>
>> This weekend I, Robot is hitting the screens. It should put a
>> pretty nice dent in everything.
>
> Expect a lot of howling from Asimov fans, similar to the howling by
> some Tolkien fans over LOTR.. though the storyline in this adaptation
> is so far from any of Asimov's books that it may be worse.
>
> (not that it'll matter, with W. Smith in it)

Difference here though is that with LOTR I think most everyone was familiar
with the books even if they hadn't read them. I Robot and Asimov...not
nearly as many of today's kids/teens/under 30 males...you know..the
audience...will know who the flap Asimov is and will mostly just look at
those geeks complaining and think...who cares what the geeks think. Oh
there was a book?

It's gonna be a smash...might reach #1 though. Spidy 2 is a juggernaut.

Charles Beauchamp

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Jul 13, 2004, 4:03:12 PM7/13/04
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Cornhuskeress wrote:
> Bryan S. Slick wrote:
>> [Cornhuskeress (cahusk...@sbcglobalGOAWAY.net)]
>> [Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:26:43 GMT]
>>
>>>> Next weekend it'll surpass Jackass in inflation-adjusted numbers,
>>>> which should finally shut up the last of the critics about how well
>>>> it's doing at the box office.
>>>
>>> This weekend I, Robot is hitting the screens. It should put a
>>> pretty nice dent in everything.
>>
>> Expect a lot of howling from Asimov fans, similar to the howling by
>> some Tolkien fans over LOTR.. though the storyline in this adaptation
>> is so far from any of Asimov's books that it may be worse.
>>
>> (not that it'll matter, with W. Smith in it)
>
> I am pretty this movie has nothing in common with the book except the
> title. But technology running amok is always good. As you say, W.
> Smith is in it and he loves America - he has already saved it from
> various aliens several times.

Plus he got one of them cool American Choppers from OCC. I bet Asimov and
all them geeks bitching about the Robot movie don't have one of them.

Bryan S. Slick

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Jul 13, 2004, 4:17:56 PM7/13/04
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[Alan Mundy (idontwan2kn...@hotmail.com)]
[Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:39:02 GMT]

:Bryan S. Slick <use...@slick-family.not> wrote in


:news:MPG.1b5e0337d...@news-40.giganews.com:
:
:> [Cornhuskeress (cahusk...@sbcglobalGOAWAY.net)]
:> [Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:26:43 GMT]
:>
:>:> Next weekend it'll surpass Jackass in inflation-adjusted numbers,
:>:> which should finally shut up the last of the critics about how well
:>:> it's doing at the box office.
:>:
:>:This weekend I, Robot is hitting the screens. It should put a pretty
:>:nice dent in everything.
:>
:> Expect a lot of howling from Asimov fans, similar to the howling by
:> some Tolkien fans over LOTR.. though the storyline in this adaptation
:> is so far from any of Asimov's books that it may be worse.
:>
:> (not that it'll matter, with W. Smith in it)
:>
:
:I suspect that the howling will be both louder and more justified.

I agree with this in part. Asimov's fanbase isn't as large or as
obnoxious (in my experience) as Tolkien's.

:People who've read the book simply need to go into it not expecting the

:movie to have anything to do with it.

Agreed. At least, that's what I'm doing, and I'm a big fan of Asimov.

Charles Beauchamp

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Jul 13, 2004, 4:37:59 PM7/13/04
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Bryan S. Slick wrote:
> [Alan Mundy (idontwan2kn...@hotmail.com)]
> [Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:39:02 GMT]
>
>> Bryan S. Slick <use...@slick-family.not> wrote in
>> news:MPG.1b5e0337d...@news-40.giganews.com:
>>
>>> [Cornhuskeress (cahusk...@sbcglobalGOAWAY.net)]
>>> [Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:26:43 GMT]
>>>
>>>>> Next weekend it'll surpass Jackass in inflation-adjusted numbers,
>>>>> which should finally shut up the last of the critics about how
>>>>> well it's doing at the box office.
>>>>
>>>> This weekend I, Robot is hitting the screens. It should put a
>>>> pretty nice dent in everything.
>>>
>>> Expect a lot of howling from Asimov fans, similar to the howling by
>>> some Tolkien fans over LOTR.. though the storyline in this
>>> adaptation is so far from any of Asimov's books that it may be
>>> worse.
>>>
>>> (not that it'll matter, with W. Smith in it)
>>>
>>
>> I suspect that the howling will be both louder and more justified.
>
> I agree with this in part. Asimov's fanbase isn't as large or as
> obnoxious (in my experience) as Tolkien's.
>
>> People who've read the book simply need to go into it not expecting
>> the movie to have anything to do with it.
>
> Agreed. At least, that's what I'm doing, and I'm a big fan of Asimov.

I am a big fan of movies with robots and stuff getting blown up.

Cornhuskeress

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Jul 13, 2004, 5:00:52 PM7/13/04
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Me too! Especially of robots. (Although when I was a small kid, robots
were the one thing I was afraid of - not monsters in the closet or any of
that usual kid stuff. Too much watching of The Outer Limits, I guess.)

Charles Beauchamp

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Jul 13, 2004, 6:14:48 PM7/13/04
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When I was a kid I was afraid of robots in the closet. Then one day when I
was 12 I blew one up. Of course by robots I mean my cousin Lee. And by
blew up I really mean I snuck up on him and wacked him in the head with a
rock. I got a whippin. Big time. Since then..nothing as scary as mama
with a belt. But I'm no longer scared of robots in the closet..so I
figure...I got that goin for me. Some things are worth a whippin.

Ralph Kennedy

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Jul 13, 2004, 6:38:36 PM7/13/04
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Dammit! You should have saved that story for
the barbecue.

Oh well, I'm sure you've got others!

--Ralph Kennedy {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
{allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
^---------------The Wrong Choice
internet: ken...@asuvax.eas.asu.edu

Charles Beauchamp

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Jul 14, 2004, 1:40:04 AM7/14/04
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I tole yoo alreddy...I only go too bbq that I cook at.

Will Vaughan

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Jul 14, 2004, 10:23:40 AM7/14/04
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"Kokopeli" <jan...@spamsux.pbzpnfg.arg> wrote
>
> "Charles Beauchamp" <C.E.Be...@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote

> > Thru the weekend F911 had topped $80m in box office playing on 2011
> screens.
> > The per screen average Friday thru Sunday was $5485.
>
> I'm even surprised. I'm still waiting for the big dropoff. Maybe next week?
>
> Next weekend it'll surpass Jackass in inflation-adjusted numbers, which
> should finally shut up the last of the critics about how well it's doing at
> the box office.

Jackass? You mean there's another movie about Dubya out there too?

Ralph Kennedy

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Jul 14, 2004, 1:25:17 PM7/14/04
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Who said you wouldn't get to cook? What, you ca'nt cook
and tell stories at th3 same time? How about choo gum?

sw...@yahoo.com

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Jul 14, 2004, 9:51:47 PM7/14/04
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 15:34:05 -0400, Bryan S. Slick
<use...@slick-family.not> wrote:


>Expect a lot of howling from Asimov fans, similar to the howling by some
>Tolkien fans over LOTR.. though the storyline in this adaptation is so
>far from any of Asimov's books that it may be worse.
>

Most of Asimov is anachronistic. His computers were humongous and used
punch cards.

They better have made serious adaptations.

Cornhuskeress

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Jul 14, 2004, 9:19:17 PM7/14/04
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From what I have read so far, I think it would be better off to see the
movie assuming that the movie is its own story that just coincidentally
shares the I,Robot title.

Bryan S. Slick

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Jul 14, 2004, 9:31:30 PM7/14/04
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[sw...@yahoo.com (sw...@yahoo.com)]
[Thu, 15 Jul 2004 03:51:47 +0200]

:On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 15:34:05 -0400, Bryan S. Slick

Nonsense. His computers as depicted as existing in the 1980s were
humongous and used punch-cards. His computers depicted as existing in
the 230th century (or thereabouts) were mind-input devices.

Charles Beauchamp

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Jul 14, 2004, 10:31:27 PM7/14/04
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Dood...when I am cooking up a mess of chicken, bbq sticks, steaks, chops and
fishies...I listen to blaring music or awesome sproting events on the radio
while I drink 2 or 3 sodas. I don't be tellling stories...what is worng
with you? Sheesh.

Ralph Kennedy

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Jul 15, 2004, 2:36:31 PM7/15/04
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Are you sure you're French? You act more like
an Argentine.

--Ralph Kennedy, {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
"Asado!!" {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^

Charles Beauchamp

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Jul 17, 2004, 11:10:32 AM7/17/04
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Dood I ain't got anything French about me. Hell your like a trillion times
more French then I would ever be. If I was in France..France would be
conquered in 36 minutes flat. All the Frenchmen would be getting sold off
as cattle feed to Eastern European suppliers. The hawt French babes would
all be making moovies or pregnant and the fugly ones...would be either
exiled to off shore prisons or hired as the help so we could turn the whole
forsaken country into one giant damn resort for fat American tourists. And
I would pull France out of the UN.

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