A&M Running Backs:Best in Nation
Rodney Dean Machen
Texas A&M running backs Rodney Thomas and Leeland McElroy as
the best in the country.
Quoting one magazine:"The Aggies probably have the two best
running backs in the nation in sophmore whiz Leeland McElroy
and senior workhorse Rodney Thomas."
Is there anybody out there who doesn't agree. I'd love to hear
some responses.
Stephen A. Barnaby
Rodney Dean Machen <rdm...@tamsun.tamu.edu> wrote:
>In all of the college preview mags i've read, they all have
>Texas A&M running backs Rodney Thomas and Leeland McElroy as
>the best in the country.
>
I think Wheatley is the best back in the country. However
Thomas and McElroy are by far the best RB tandem this year.
Just think, they were the 2 best running backs on their
team last year, and the other was a #1 draft pick this year.
We'll see how good the blocking is in front of them this year
though. I look for McElroy to eventually be a top 5 overall
pick in the NFL draft. But Wheatley, barring injury will
probably be the first player taken.
Steve B.
Chris Bellomy
: In all of the college preview mags i've read, they all have
Not true! Not true! Our RB's suck! Our entire team sucks! We'll
be lucky to win one game!
(Help guys, this guy is trying to doom us already with his woofing!)
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Nobody Special
A&M may have the best pair of backs in the nation, but I think
that Tyrone Wheatley may have something to say about either
Leeland McElroy or Rodney Thomas being better than him individually.
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top running unit in the nation with a pair of sophomore running backs that will end up
as the best unit. These two guys are Lawrence Phillips (who Florida State couldn't stop
in last year's Orange Bowl) and Damon Benning, and this doesn't include about 4 more young
guys who could start for 95% of the college teams in the nation. See you in the Orange Bowl,
and the refs won't be able to take this one from us.
Huskers #1 in '94.
Pat Erb
Jason Fawcett
>Rodney Dean Machen (rdm...@tamsun.tamu.edu) wrote:
>: Quoting one magazine:"The Aggies probably have the two best
>: running backs in the nation in sophmore whiz Leeland McElroy
>: and senior workhorse Rodney Thomas."
>Not true! Not true! Our RB's suck! Our entire team sucks! We'll
>be lucky to win one game!
>(Help guys, this guy is trying to doom us already with his woofing!)
I think TAMU's two RB may even get the vaulted SI cover, for the special
pre-season kick off issue.
Tad Thurston
>Rodney Dean Machen (rdm...@tamsun.tamu.edu) wrote:
>: In all of the college preview mags i've read, they all have
>: Texas A&M running backs Rodney Thomas and Leeland McElroy as
>: the best in the country.
>: Quoting one magazine:"The Aggies probably have the two best
>: running backs in the nation in sophmore whiz Leeland McElroy
>: and senior workhorse Rodney Thomas."
>: Is there anybody out there who doesn't agree. I'd love to hear
>: some responses.
>Not true! Not true! Our RB's suck! Our entire team sucks! We'll
>be lucky to win one game!
>(Help guys, this guy is trying to doom us already with his woofing!)
heh-heh-heh-heh
The woof gods have heard him already, and they have one thing to say....
S O O N E R S
Get ready, James Allen and Jerald Moore have hereby been anointed
to attain a combined 341 yards rushing in that game.
sorry,
tad :)
Chris Bellomy
: I think TAMU's two RB may even get the vaulted SI cover, for the special
: pre-season kick off issue.
AAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!1!!!11!11!!!!!!!!
[hyperventilates, suffers a seizure, carried away for 'observation']
John Leinaweaver
And many of these same preseason rags say Penn State has
best tailback trio in the nation (KiJana Carter, Mike Archie, and
Stephen Pitts)
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Fawcett) wrote:
> I think TAMU's two RB may even get the vaulted SI cover, for the special
> pre-season kick off issue.
Oh, F*CK, we're doomed!
James - NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! ANYTHING BUT THAT!!!!!!! Well, ok, anything but
being preseason #1...
Jay Allen
: The A&M running backs aren't bad, but as usual the Nebraska Cornhuskers
: will have the top running unit in the nation with a pair of sophomore
: running backs that will end up as the best unit.
Now that the gauntlet has been thrown down, I have a few pertinent
questions:
Which of these tandems will 1) Avoid injury
2) Stay in school,
3) Not be arrested or kicked off of the
team for 'unspecified' reasons.
and 4) Not take a summer job collecting
paychecks
...for the longest amount of time. Answer *that* question, and you
will know who the most productive backfield tandem in college football
will be.
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>The A&M running backs aren't bad, but as usual the Nebraska Cornhuskers will have the
I'm just curious? Does "as usual" mean something different to you
than it does to me? To me that means "year in and year out" or
"regularly."
>top running unit in the nation with a pair of sophomore running backs that will end up
>as the best unit. These two guys are Lawrence Phillips (who Florida State couldn't stop
Does this mean that they'll dominate teams that are actually in
the top 25 from conferences other than the Big 8? That I'd have
to see.
>in last year's Orange Bowl) and Damon Benning, and this doesn't include about 4 more young
>guys who could start for 95% of the college teams in the nation. See you in the Orange Bowl,
>and the refs won't be able to take this one from us.
>
>Huskers #1 in '94.
That's right, they'll lose that ranking on the first day of 1995
though.
J...@umich.edu
>In article <2var3b$t...@news.tamu.edu>, rdm...@tamsun.tamu.edu (Rodney Dean Machen) writes:
>> In all of the college preview mags i've read, they all have
>> Texas A&M running backs Rodney Thomas and Leeland McElroy as
>> the best in the country.
>>
>>
>>
And if they are not the BEST DUO in the nation, I'll bet that they are the
HIGHEST PAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Marc J. Stephenson
>In all of the college preview mags i've read, they all have
>Texas A&M running backs Rodney Thomas and Leeland McElroy as
>the best in the country.
>
>Quoting one magazine:"The Aggies probably have the two best
>running backs in the nation in sophmore whiz Leeland McElroy
>and senior workhorse Rodney Thomas."
It's still a little questionable how these two are going to fit into
the same backfield, if they do at all. McElroy doesn't look like
much of a blocker (though I don't KNOW that he can't block). They
can still slot McElroy and do a lot of damage, but Clif Groce isn't
going to scare anybody in the backfield. Being able to have Thomas
and McElroy fresh all game long will really help the Ags in the 4th quarter,
but I'm not sure about having Thomas and McElroy in the same backfield for
extended lengths of time.
Is there somebody available to beat out Groce for fullback or
is he it (Detron (Smith?) isn't a very good answer, IMHO).
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Bill Dostalik
>Rodney Dean Machen (rdm...@tamsun.tamu.edu) wrote:
>: In all of the college preview mags i've read, they all have
>: Texas A&M running backs Rodney Thomas and Leeland McElroy as
>: the best in the country.
>
>: Quoting one magazine:"The Aggies probably have the two best
>: running backs in the nation in sophmore whiz Leeland McElroy
>: and senior workhorse Rodney Thomas."
>
>: Is there anybody out there who doesn't agree. I'd love to hear
>: some responses.
>
>Not true! Not true! Our RB's suck! Our entire team sucks! We'll
>be lucky to win one game!
*Your* running backs suck? *OUr* running backs really suck. They
should renickname "Thunder and Lightning" (Jerald Moore and James Allen)
"Partly Cloudy and Drizzle", these sophomores couldn't find their way
our of a wet paper sack. And, yeah, sure, the other sophomore, Jeff
Frazier, is going to come back from knee surgery that sidelined him all
last season. No way. No blocking either, fullbacks Dewayne Chandler
(sr.) and Terry Collier (jr.) just aren't tough enough.
I look for the Aggies to go 11-0 and win the MNC on probation just like
OU did in 1974. Won't the networks hate that?
And who can stop the Aggies? Especially at home, why they haven't lost
to TCU at College Station in forever!
>(Help guys, this guy is trying to doom us already with his woofing!)
>
>--
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>
>"Paradise is exactly like where you are right now, only much, much better."
> --Laurie Anderson
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Kenneth Kendrick
>In article <2vc364$6...@hermes.unt.edu> cbel...@dale.hsc.unt.EDU (Chris Bellomy) writes:
>>Rodney Dean Machen (rdm...@tamsun.tamu.edu) wrote:
>>
>>Not true! Not true! Our RB's suck! Our entire team sucks! We'll
>>be lucky to win one game!
>*Your* running backs suck? *OUr* running backs really suck. They
>should renickname "Thunder and Lightning" (Jerald Moore and James Allen)
>"Partly Cloudy and Drizzle", these sophomores couldn't find their way
Hey! Wait a minute! Our running backs suck too! Don't forget about us!
Ken Kendrick
Hook 'em Horns!!!
Chris Bellomy
: Hey! Wait a minute! Our running backs suck too! Don't forget about us!
True, but we knew that already. ;)
: Ken Kendrick
: Hook 'em Horns!!!
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Unfortunately, Ken, our running backs really will suck unless one of the
Freshmen (Darrell Wilson, William Barnes) come through strong. We don't even
have Phil ( I got caught from behind 4 times vs. a$m) Brown anymore!
I guess every team has to have some sort of weakness :->
Hook 'em Horns!!
Doug Burnside
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Kenneth Kendrick
>Unfortunately, Ken, our running backs really will suck unless one of the
>Freshmen (Darrell Wilson, William Barnes) come through strong. We don't even
>have Phil ( I got caught from behind 4 times vs. a$m) Brown anymore!
>I guess every team has to have some sort of weakness :->
>Hook 'em Horns!!
>Doug Burnside
>The University of Texas '94
>The University of Texas School of Law '97
>
>36 Days till veterans report
>83874 minutes till TEXAS vs pitt kickoff
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Now this is the kind of spirit I like to see!
But, more to the point.... Whatever happened to Anthony Holmes? I seem
to remember he had a good game against OU as a freshman... should be a
junior now. And wasn't there some kid from Richarson that had a few good
games? (Curtis somethig?) I was out of the loop last year and missed
most of the games.....
Ken Kendrick
Hook 'em Horns!!!
(OK, so maybe this doesn't have much to do W/ a&m RBs, but I never could
stay on subject.)
Eric T. Moore
>>Unfortunately, Ken, our running backs really will suck unless one of the
>>Freshmen (Darrell Wilson, William Barnes) come through strong. We don't even
>>have Phil ( I got caught from behind 4 times vs. a$m) Brown anymore!
Blame this on the off. coord.'s love of slow developing plays-BTW, he
doubles as the head coach.
>But, more to the point.... Whatever happened to Anthony Holmes? I seem
>to remember he had a good game against OU as a freshman... should be a
>junior now. And wasn't there some kid from Richarson that had a few good
>games? (Curtis somethig?) I was out of the loop last year and missed
>most of the games.....
>Ken Kendrick
>(OK, so maybe this doesn't have much to do W/ a&m RBs, but I never could
>stay on subject.)
Well then, the trick is to start a new subject :)
Darrell Wilson, RS-Freshman (Dallas Carter), looks to be the main man at the
halfback position, with Roderick Walker, SR. (Iriving Nimitz), and Anthony
Holmes, JR.(?) (San Antonio Marshall), competing for #2. Juan Kemp,
SR. (transfer from UMich) looks to be the starter at fullback, with Gerrod
Coleman, RS-Fresham (Fort Worth Wyatt(?)), at #2. William Barnes,
Freshman (Georgia Camilla (?) ), likely to challenge for playing time.
Curtis Jackson, JR., (?), has been switched to wide-receiver, and looks to
be a real find. However, the plan seems to be to redshirt him this year
so he can more fully learn the position, and also be available next year
when UT will be short on quality receivers, since our resident bad-boys
look to go pro. Besides, he would not have gotten much playing time
behind Adams and Pinkney, even as good as he appears to be.
The other player in the mix will be Wayne McGarity, Frosh (San Antonio
Clark (?) ), who is the quintessential scat-back that Mackovic claims to
have always wanted (Anthony Bookman-signed with Stanford, and Jerod
Douglass-rights purchased by Baylor:) were the prime targets). As a
consolation prize, McGarity still rushed for way over 1000 yards (I think
pretty close to 2000) his senior year HS, beat Jerod head-to-head in state
track meet (100 meters), and is reportedly more solidly built. His
quickness would have been very useful last year, esp. in one game late in
the 4th down near the goal line...
Hope this information is helpful Ken (and Doug) :)
etm, "If God isn't a tea-sipper, then why are the sunsets burnt orange!?!"
mo...@econ.unt.edu
Jaime
Didn't you hear, we don't pay our players ANYMORE. You've got A&M
confused with (all) those Florida teams. Besides, why should we pay 'em
when to win when we won't even be on tv?
So, J...@umich.edu, how many ties is Michigan going have this year? :)
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> Didn't you hear, we don't pay our players ANYMORE. You've got A&M
>confused with (all) those Florida teams.
Isn't that what they said when Sherrill and Murray left?
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> So, J...@umich.edu, how many ties is Michigan going have this year? :)
Listen Jimmy--you heard it hear first!! Michigan WILL NOT have any ties this
year unless ND runs the clock out again!! Michigan will go without nary a
blemish on their record and will end the 1948 drought just as the NY Rangers
did in hockey.
And about the three ties from a couple of years back:
1. ND ran out the clock!
2. Moeller was right to go after the tie against Illinois. Michigan was
realistically out of the MNC race at that point so all that was left
was the Big Ten championship and the Rose Bowl.
3. The weather conditions had something to do with the tie at OSU. Good
conditions and OSU didn't stand a chance!!
And yes, ultimately all these ties would have been avoided if not for the
Pullig-like passing of Elvis Grbac. No excuses for all the Big Time choking
he did in his career!!
Go Blue!!
National Champs in '94 (I hope)
Will V. Reen
nirad pandya
Kenneth Kendrick <ken...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>dbur...@austin.ibm.com (Doug Burnside) writes:
>But, more to the point.... Whatever happened to Anthony Holmes? I seem
>to remember he had a good game against OU as a freshman... should be a
>junior now. And wasn't there some kid from Richarson that had a few good
>games? (Curtis somethig?) I was out of the loop last year and missed
>most of the games.....
>
>Ken Kendrick
>Hook 'em Horns!!!
Anthony Holmes was OK as a freshman but didn't really do much last
season. Since Adams & Pinkney were taking spring practice off, Mackovic
moved Curtis Jackson to wide receiver. He has excellent speed and is
supposed to have done pretty well in the spring. Never mind about those
two. Darrell Wilson seems to be developing into quite a fine back. I
was at the Orange-White game and saw him make some outstanding moves. I
think he's ready to kick some ass.
Nirad Pandya
Paul=Broyles%P...@bangate.compaq.com
>
>Darrell Wilson, RS-Freshman (Dallas Carter), looks to be the main man at the
>halfback position, with Roderick Walker, SR. (Iriving Nimitz), and Anthony
>Holmes, JR.(?) (San Antonio Marshall), competing for #2. Juan Kemp,
>SR. (transfer from UMich) looks to be the starter at fullback, with Gerrod
>Coleman, RS-Fresham (Fort Worth Wyatt(?)), at #2. William Barnes,
>Freshman (Georgia Camilla (?) ), likely to challenge for playing time.
>
I seem to remember discounting William Barnes because he hadn't made his SAT
score as of signing day. Do we know for sure that he made the grade? I hope so, because
we need a big FB bad, and he was one of the top 5 FBs in the nation coming out of HS,
wasn't he? It doesn't look like he has much competition at FB...
>The other player in the mix will be Wayne McGarity, Frosh (San Antonio
>Clark (?) ), who is the quintessential scat-back that Mackovic claims to
>have always wanted (Anthony Bookman-signed with Stanford, and Jerod
>Douglass-rights purchased by Baylor:) were the prime targets). As a
>consolation prize, McGarity still rushed for way over 1000 yards (I think
>pretty close to 2000) his senior year HS, beat Jerod head-to-head in state
>track meet (100 meters), and is reportedly more solidly built. His
>quickness would have been very useful last year, esp. in one game late in
>the 4th down near the goal line...
I've never even heard of this guy. Why wasn't he highly touted coming out of HS like
Douglas? Obviously, Douglas was UT's preference, so what's the knock on him if he's
faster (in the 100 at least) and bigger? Not to mention, smarter, by default.
Paul.
Eric T. Moore
>Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 16:01:57 GMT
>>William Barnes, Freshman (Georgia Camilla (?) ), likely to challenge for
playing time.
>I seem to remember discounting William Barnes because he hadn't made his SAT
>score as of signing day. Do we know for sure that he made the grade?
>we need a big FB bad, and he was one of the top 5 FBs in the nation
>wasn't he? It doesn't look like he has much competition at FB...
All of the Longhorn recruits have met NCAA and UT (much tougher) academic
requirements. And yes, he was considered one of the top 5 FBs or RBs
depending on the list.
>>The other player in the mix will be Wayne McGarity, Frosh (San Antonio
>>Clark (?) ), who is the quintessential scat-back that Mackovic claims to
>I've never even heard of this guy. Why wasn't he highly touted coming out of
>HS like Douglas? Obviously, Douglas was UT's preference, so what's the
>knock on him
>Paul.
He was overshadowed by Douglas (both played in San Antonio), especially
since Douglas played for a very good team (Converse Judson), and had a
tremendous game in the 5A championships. Douglas did outrush him every year
in HS (again, better supporting cast), and probably considered to have
better vision. There was no knock on McGarity (several state and national
lists), he was highly rated, Douglas just very highly (we all know the media
can only focus on one or two things at a time, and there are some regional
politics involved in selections to blue-chip lists). Douglas was UT's and
BU's first choice, and McGarity was each teams second choice. Of course,
track speed and football speed are not the same thing, but McGarity will not
have to try and perform under the scrutiny or pressure that Douglas is going
to face, nor is he going to be expected to carry the load for the UT offense
that Douglas is going to have to carry for the Baylor offense. Time will
tell who will actually be the better college back. The cubbard at Texas is
not as bare as has been made out, just unproven...
etm, Better Dead than Sooner Red
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Jay Allen
: Hey! Wait a minute! Our running backs suck too! Don't forget about us!
Hey Ken, who *are* our running backs this year (who suck gratuitously)?
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In article <7736797...@131.168.114.12>, Paul=Broyles%Prj=Eng%PCPD=H...@bangate.compaq.com writes:
>
> I seem to remember discounting William Barnes because he hadn't made his SAT
> score as of signing day. Do we know for sure that he made the grade? I hope so, because
> we need a big FB bad, and he was one of the top 5 FBs in the nation coming out of HS,
> wasn't he? It doesn't look like he has much competition at FB...
seen anything negative since April. A recent article in the Statesman seemed
to imply that he would be in the mix. (fingers crossed)
If he doesn't make it to UT, this would be the third big-time RB recruit in the
last 5 years to sign and not make his grades (James Thornton from McKinney in
1991 and Shon Mitchell from LBJ last year, both #1 RB in Texas by AAS and DaMN).
>
> >The other player in the mix will be Wayne McGarity, Frosh (San Antonio
> >Clark (?) ), who is the quintessential scat-back that Mackovic claims to
> >have always wanted (Anthony Bookman-signed with Stanford, and Jerod
> >Douglass-rights purchased by Baylor:) were the prime targets). As a
> >consolation prize, McGarity still rushed for way over 1000 yards (I think
> >pretty close to 2000) his senior year HS, beat Jerod head-to-head in state
> >track meet (100 meters), and is reportedly more solidly built. His
> >quickness would have been very useful last year, esp. in one game late in
> >the 4th down near the goal line...
>
> I've never even heard of this guy. Why wasn't he highly touted coming out of HS like
> Douglas? Obviously, Douglas was UT's preference, so what's the knock on him if he's
> faster (in the 100 at least) and bigger? Not to mention, smarter, by default.
>
> Paul.
should be good, but his durability will be questioned. The reason Douglas
is so highly touted is because of his blazing speed, open-field moves, and
incredible field vision (biggest asset). Don't know much about McGarity except
his speed and size.
Hook 'em Horns!!
Doug Burnside
The University of Texas '94
The University of Texas School of Law '97
35 Days till veterans report
82067 minutes till TEXAS vs Pitt kickoff
Eric T. Moore
> Hey Ken, who *are* our running backs this year (who suck gratuitously)?
> Jay Allen
See my posts "Univ. of Texas RB's" and "Re: Univ. of Texas RB's.":)
At this point noone can say definitively that they "suck gratuitously," but
what can be said is that there is a lot of potential at the position.
Couple that with a *very* good O-line, QB, and WR's (with a year+ under
their belts), and the opportunities for the 'Horn's RB's look very good.
I will go out on a limb and say that UT's rushing totals should be 150% of
what they were last year (barring injuries to RB's or the O-line). In
addition, along with learning to take the strong wind to start the game,
Mackovic will learn to scrap the slow-developers against bowl-potential
teams. That in itself will immensely help the running game!
etm, Orangeblood
Kenneth Kendrick
>Blame this on the off. coord.'s love of slow developing plays-BTW, he
>doubles as the head coach.
>Darrell Wilson, RS-Freshman (Dallas Carter), looks to be the main man at the
>halfback position, with Roderick Walker, SR. (Iriving Nimitz), and Anthony
>Holmes, JR.(?) (San Antonio Marshall), competing for #2. Juan Kemp,
>SR. (transfer from UMich) looks to be the starter at fullback, with Gerrod
>Coleman, RS-Fresham (Fort Worth Wyatt(?)), at #2. William Barnes,
>Freshman (Georgia Camilla (?) ), likely to challenge for playing time.
>Curtis Jackson, JR., (?), has been switched to wide-receiver, and looks to
>be a real find. However, the plan seems to be to redshirt him this year
>so he can more fully learn the position, and also be available next year
>when UT will be short on quality receivers, since our resident bad-boys
>look to go pro. Besides, he would not have gotten much playing time
>behind Adams and Pinkney, even as good as he appears to be.
>The other player in the mix will be Wayne McGarity, Frosh (San Antonio
>Clark (?) ), who is the quintessential scat-back that Mackovic claims to
>have always wanted (Anthony Bookman-signed with Stanford, and Jerod
>Douglass-rights purchased by Baylor:) were the prime targets). As a
>consolation prize, McGarity still rushed for way over 1000 yards (I think
>pretty close to 2000) his senior year HS, beat Jerod head-to-head in state
>track meet (100 meters), and is reportedly more solidly built. His
>quickness would have been very useful last year, esp. in one game late in
>the 4th down near the goal line...
>Hope this information is helpful Ken (and Doug) :)
>etm, "If God isn't a tea-sipper, then why are the sunsets burnt orange!?!"
>mo...@econ.unt.edu
Thank you Eric. I knew this group was good for something other than
making fun of the aggies! (not that it wouldn't be worth it to hang
around here for that alone....)
Jason Fawcett
>> So, J...@umich.edu, how many ties is Michigan going have this year? :)
> 2. Moeller was right to go after the tie against Illinois. Michigan was
> realistically out of the MNC race at that point so all that was left
> was the Big Ten championship and the Rose Bowl.
No coach is ever right to go for a tie. Only a milk-toast scum sucking
Lily-livered coward would play for a tie. They should run any coward
Tie-sucking coach out of town, after they tar and feather him. I will
never respect a coach that tied, as the clock runs out.
I have never like Tom Osborns run offense styler. In 1983 he lost the NC
just becasue he went for the two-point play instead of kicking the extra
point that would have giving him the tie and the NC. Tom Osborn earned my
respect.
Stephen A. Barnaby
>
>And about the three ties from a couple of years back:
>
> 1. ND ran out the clock!
True, I was very surprized they did that.
> 2. Moeller was right to go after the tie against Illinois. Michigan was
> realistically out of the MNC race at that point so all that was left
> was the Big Ten championship and the Rose Bowl.
I dont care, Moeller was being a wussy. You ALWAYS go for the win, with
no exception.
> 3. The weather conditions had something to do with the tie at OSU. Good
> conditions and OSU didn't stand a chance!!
Do not consider myself on the list of excusemakers. That tie was Moeller's
fault as well.
>And yes, ultimately all these ties would have been avoided if not for the
>Pullig-like passing of Elvis Grbac. No excuses for all the Big Time choking
>he did in his career!!
Pullig has not had a very spectacular career yet, but he did play a decent
Cotton Bowl last year.
Steve B.
GO BLUE!!!
FIRE MOELLER! (The Gerry Faust of Michigan football)
James R. (Jim Bob) Bill
the best running backs in the country..;-) I believe a
1500 yd rusher and a 900 yd rusher , both returning, as well
as the starting QB, receivers, TE, and most of the OL.
Should be fun.
-jimbob
Brian Saunders
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
The funny thing is that their BEST back is not even one of the two you
mentioned (that would be sophomore Carl McCullough). Not to minimize what
Moss and Fletcher did (Moss is a real banger, and Fletcher makes these
amazing escapes), but I think their numbers had a lot to do with the
offensive line, so I'd be a bit hesitant with this "best back" thing. I
think that Michigan has better talent at running back, so Wisconsin isn't
even the best in the Big 10. Wisconsin's OL might be better, though, and
that could make the difference.
--
Brian Saunders saun...@castor.che.wisc.edu
John Leinaweaver
> In article <2vc364$6...@hermes.unt.edu> cbel...@dale.hsc.unt.EDU (Chris Bellomy) writes:
> >Rodney Dean Machen (rdm...@tamsun.tamu.edu) wrote:
> >: In all of the college preview mags i've read, they all have
> >: Texas A&M running backs Rodney Thomas and Leeland McElroy as
> >: the best in the country.
> >
> >: Quoting one magazine:"The Aggies probably have the two best
> >: running backs in the nation in sophmore whiz Leeland McElroy
> >: and senior workhorse Rodney Thomas."
> >
> >: Is there anybody out there who doesn't agree. I'd love to hear
> >: some responses.
> >
> >Not true! Not true! Our RB's suck! Our entire team sucks! We'll
> >be lucky to win one game!
>
> *Your* running backs suck? *OUr* running backs really suck. They
> should renickname "Thunder and Lightning" (Jerald Moore and James Allen)
> "Partly Cloudy and Drizzle", these sophomores couldn't find their way
>
I thought "Thunder and Lightning" was the nicknames of
Rutgers' two running backs, you know, Presley and what's his name...
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michael krueger
I generally don't read the stuff TAMU fans put on the net because it
generally is obnoxious. However, I'm a Chiefs fan and they (of
course) drafted Greg Hill in the first round. What I would like to
know is what the TAMU people think about him. I'd also like to hear
from the anti-TAMU people what they think about him.
Since he has been drafted this ought to be on RSFP probably... Excuse
the Faux Pas... But I wanted to go where the action is.
Thanks
Mike
Matthew Speed
: I generally don't read the stuff TAMU fans put on the net because it
: course) drafted Greg Hill in the first round. What I would like to
: know is what the TAMU people think about him. I'd also like to hear
: from the anti-TAMU people what they think about him.
from THE University of Texas
I bleed orange and have been to every Thanksgiving Day game he played in
and thought he was impressive. I also watched him when the Aggies used to
be on TV with my Aggie ex-girlfriend. He was a great college player who
should have not played ONE single game after he was busted for was a
thinly disguised pay for play. He ought to help the Chiefs out. I would
love to see them go to the Superbowl so I can revel as he gets stuffed by
the Cowboys.
: But I wanted to go where the action is.
Amen. EVERYONE knows college spirit beats the pros any day!
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If the Aggies won every year until they caught up with THE University, we
would all be retired before the series was even. Go Horns!
Matthew Speed ____ ____
msp...@crl.com \_____/
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Cowboys and Longhorns...Only in TEXAS!!
Chris Bellomy
: If the Aggies won every year until they caught up with THE University, we
Sounds good to me. Let's do it.
Gary 'el goob' Smith
James R. (Jim Bob) Bill <jim...@arapaho.cse.ucsc.edu> wrote:
->Actually I think everyone should know that Wisconsin has
->the best running backs in the country..;-) I believe a
->1500 yd rusher and a 900 yd rusher , both returning, as well
->as the starting QB, receivers, TE, and most of the OL.
Wisconsin doesn't even have a football team, you goofus!!!
- goober (/user/gws6860/bin/repstlk -bait cheese -target saunders) smith
J...@umich.edu
>> 2. Moeller was right to go after the tie against Illinois. Michigan was
>> realistically out of the MNC race at that point so all that was left
>> was the Big Ten championship and the Rose Bowl.
>
>I dont care, Moeller was being a wussy. You ALWAYS go for the win, with
>no exception.
Hey Steve, in case you don't recall, it was fourth and goal from about the 20
yard line. I agree if UM was still in MNC hunt, then go for the win, but with
that gone, all that is left is the Rose Bowl so I think he made the right
decision!
>> 3. The weather conditions had something to do with the tie at OSU. Good
>> conditions and OSU didn't stand a chance!!
>Do not consider myself on the list of excusemakers. That tie was Moeller's
>fault as well.
Again I think you can point the finger at Elvis "Clutch" Grbac and that
massive??? hit he took in the endzone!!
>>And yes, ultimately all these ties would have been avoided if not
for the >>Pullig-like passing of Elvis Grbac. No excuses for all the Big Time
choking >>he did in his career!!
>Pullig has not had a very spectacular career yet, but he did play a decent
>Cotton Bowl last year.
>Steve B.
>GO BLUE!!!
>FIRE MOELLER! (The Gerry Faust of Michigan football)
Again Steve, Moeller is doing two things that Gerry Faust never did. He is
making it to bowl games and he is winning them!!!!!
jam...@rosie.uh.edu
>: If the Aggies won every year until they caught up with THE University, we
>: would all be retired before the series was even.
"WAIT 'TILL LAST YEAR!!!"
Jammer Jim Miller -- Thank you, Mark Mitchell.
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>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>If the Aggies won every year until they caught up with THE University, we
>would all be retired before the series was even. Go Horns!
>
>Matthew Speed ____ ____
>msp...@crl.com \_____/
> | |
> \ /
> |_|
>
>Cowboys and Longhorns...Only in TEXAS!!
I herebye nominate Matthews .sig as the most obnoxious on the net.
Either that or just plain damn ugly.
<additional drivel to satisfy lines quoted/added ratio>
A&M 18 tu 9 - says it all!
3 in a row
9 out of the last 10
11 out of the last 15!
Gig 'em, Aggies!
<actually goob told me how to get around it but this was
a target of opportunity I could not pass up>
--
Jeff Nauss Texas A&M Class of '77
Department of Chemistry Gig 'em, Aggies!
University of Cincinnati
John R. Cobarruvias
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> If the Aggies won every year until they caught up with THE University, we
> would all be retired before the series was even. Go Horns!
HEY! Another record to shoot for! (and well on our way to do it also)
(Wow, what bs records people bring up after getting their butts kicked for
their entire college career.)
>
> Matthew Speed
> msp...@crl.com /\_____/\
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> \ /
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>
> Cowboys and Longhorns...Only in TEXAS!!
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Doug Burnside
In article <cobarruvias-...@ekm085.jsc.nasa.gov>, cobar...@asd1.jsc.nasa.gov (John R. Cobarruvias) writes:
> In article <2vpeae$5...@crl.crl.com>, msp...@crl.com (Matthew Speed) wrote:
>
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > If the Aggies won every year until they caught up with THE University, we
> > would all be retired before the series was even. Go Horns!
>
> HEY! Another record to shoot for! (and well on our way to do it also)
> (Wow, what bs records people bring up after getting their butts kicked for
> their entire college career.)
>
I believe the apocalypse is scheduled for way before any opportunity
a$m would have to even the record. :-)
>
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Hook 'em Horns!!
Doug Burnside
The University of Texas '94
The University of Texas School of Law '97
32 Days till veterans report
77857 minutes till TEXAS vs Pitt kickoff
Jason Fawcett
J...@umich.edu writes:
>>FIRE MOELLER! (The Gerry Faust of Michigan football)
>Again Steve, Moeller is doing two things that Gerry Faust never did. He is
>making it to bowl games and he is winning them!!!!!
Moeller not that bad. Does Moeller in crucial game situation yell down the
bench, " Okay! Everybody say a Hail Mary that we'll make this first down!"?
That the Atlanta Constitution reported.
Jay Allen
: I thought "Thunder and Lightning" was the nicknames of
: Rutgers' two running backs, you know, Presley and what's his name...
Or it could have been Chuck Muncie and Wes Chandler...Just a thought.//
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Jay Allen Texas-Ex '93 Tulane Medical School
Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Association Executive Vice-President
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--- The Answer to the Great Question of Life, the Universe and Everything ...
--- is ... 42.
Matthew Speed
: In article <2vpeae$5...@crl.crl.com>, msp...@crl.com (Matthew Speed) wrote:
: (Wow, what bs records people bring up after getting their butts kicked for
: their entire college career.)
What happened to 1990, the year CBS conspired with us to broadcast your
ever so pitiful attempt at a 2 pt conversion. The only thing I am pissed
about our football team ever doing was NOT scoring on 2nd and goal from
the 1 to let you farm boys know your extra effort didn't mean squat.
I R A Aggie
+ HEY! Another record to shoot for! (and well on our way to do it also)
+ (Wow, what bs records people bring up after getting their butts kicked for
+ their entire college career.)
Shoot, John, the Ags was kicking t.u. Booty when *I* was a student.
And I haven't been a student since before most of the children here
in junior high.
James - and the Ags keep on going...and going...and going...
Jay Allen
: HEY! Another record to shoot for! (and well on our way to do it also)
: (Wow, what bs records people bring up after getting their butts kicked for
: their entire college career.)
<Ahem> Um, Memory Retention Reduction must be a required class at
a$m. Don't forget 1990. I don't believe the butt-kicking took place that
year. It resumed the next year, but that should be stopped this year.
Too bad it's not on TV for the world to see...
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Jay Allen Texas-Ex '93 Tulane Medical School
Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Association Executive Vice-President
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--- The main difference between a computer salesman and a used car salesman is
--- that the used car salesman can probably drive and knows when he's lying.
--- -- Peter da Silva
John R. Cobarruvias
Was that the year when tu went to the cotton bowl? Can't remember who they
played. Refresh our memories.
And you are right, you are not one of those who went 4 (or 5) years at tu
without a win over the Aggies. I stand corrected.
John R. Cobarruvias
stri...@masig.fsu.edu (I R A Aggie) wrote:
> In article <cobarruvias-...@ekm085.jsc.nasa.gov>, cobar...@asd1.jsc.nasa.gov (John R. Cobarruvias) wrote:
>
> + HEY! Another record to shoot for! (and well on our way to do it also)
> + (Wow, what bs records people bring up after getting their butts kicked for
> + their entire college career.)
>
> Shoot, John, the Ags was kicking t.u. Booty when *I* was a student.
> And I haven't been a student since before most of the children here
> in junior high.
Well, I have to admit, that during my stay at A&M, we were much like the
sips now, we were estactic to get a win over the bovines. It made our year!
We beat them during my sergebutt year.
>
> James - and the Ags keep on going...and going...and going...
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John R. Cobarruvias
Allen) wrote:
> John R. Cobarruvias wrote:
>
> : HEY! Another record to shoot for! (and well on our way to do it also)
> : (Wow, what bs records people bring up after getting their butts kicked for
> : their entire college career.)
>
> <Ahem> Um, Memory Retention Reduction must be a required class at
> a$m. Don't forget 1990. I don't believe the butt-kicking took place that
> year. It resumed the next year, but that should be stopped this year.
> Too bad it's not on TV for the world to see...
UH.........as the post says, there are folks who went to tu for 4-5 years
who NEVER witnessd a win against the Aggies. That all I said.
By your sig, you are excluded. You did watch your team win in '90 and go on
to the Cotton Bowl which resulted in major reform of the taunting rule.
> _________________________________________________________________________
> Jay Allen Texas-Ex '93 Tulane Medical School
> Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Association Executive Vice-President
> _________________________________________________________________________
> --- The main difference between a computer salesman and a used car salesman is
> --- that the used car salesman can probably drive and knows when he's lying.
> --- -- Peter da Silva
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Jeffrey L Nauss
>Well, I have to admit, that during my stay at A&M, we were much like the
>sips now, we were estactic to get a win over the bovines. It made our year!
>We beat them during my sergebutt year.
Translation for all non-CT's: sergebutt = junior
When I went to A&M I saw three victories in seven seasons over tu and
that was considered a monumental achievement:
1975 - 20-10 and it wasn't even that close, only tu TD was a punt
return. Other than that I don't think they got past the twenty.
Bubba Bean had a great day as RB.
1976 - don't remember this too well. It was in Austin and A&M won
something like 30-13. Could be (and probably am) wrong on
that score. Thumped 'em good though.
1979 - tu comes to College Station ranked #4 and the Aggies gig 'em
good, 13-6. Curtis Dickey throws a half-back option pass
about 15 yds for the decisive points, A&M defense stuffs the
t-sips good. My last game as a student and my most memorable.
Now to even things out here are some of my less pleasant memories:
1974 - A&M is 8-2, needing a win in Austin to go to the Cotton Bowl.
It is raining and unbelievably cold. With 55 seconds gone in the
game, tu is ahead 17-0. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, 17 points in 55
seconds. Take away those points and it was a close game but...
1977 (I think) - tu is ranked high (#1 perhaps) and Earl Campbell is
rolling for his Heisman Trophy. Don't remember the score, don't want
to. All I remember is Earl running and catching passes and just have
a jolly good ol' time.
You young whipper snappers at A&M don't know how good you have it.
Eric T. Moore
[some unpleasantness deleted]
>Now to even things out here are some of my less pleasant memories:
>1974 - A&M is 8-2, needing a win in Austin to go to the Cotton Bowl.
>It is raining and unbelievably cold. With 55 seconds gone in the
>game, tu is ahead 17-0. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, 17 points in 55
>seconds. Take away those points and it was a close game but...
>1977 (I think) - tu is ranked high (#1 perhaps) and Earl Campbell is
>rolling for his Heisman Trophy. Don't remember the score, don't want
>to. All I remember is Earl running and catching passes and just have
>a jolly good ol' time.
Apology accepted ;)
>Jeff Nauss Texas A&M Class of '77
etm, gentleman
Brian Saunders
goob' Smith) wrote:
> Wisconsin doesn't even have a football team, you goofus!!!
> - goober (/user/gws6860/bin/repstlk -bait cheese -target saunders) smith
Sorry - that cheese is just a bit too moldy for me. I'm surprised you
used such lame bait, Goober, but then again, maybe it is to be expected
with all the goober crops in danger from this flood.
--
Brian Saunders saun...@castor.che.wisc.edu
I R A Aggie
+ By your sig, you are excluded. You did watch your team win in '90 and go on
+ to the Cotton Bowl which resulted in major reform of the taunting rule.
Which is...? Oh, I know...the winning team can't taunt the losing team,
even if they'd been taunting the winning team for at least a week.
Hey, Miami fans...can you fill some of the off-season with your
recollections of that week before, and the game itself?
James - Miami vs. t.u....I root for Miami like a Stork!
Jay Allen
Distribution: world
: Was that the year when tu went to the cotton bowl? Can't remember who they
: played. Refresh our memories.
Oh yeah, that was Notre Dame -- oh wait, no no that's not right.
Notre Dame kicked aggee ass in the Cotton Bowl. Hmmmm....
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---of Texas... ;)
jam...@elroy.uh.edu
>arruvias-1...@ekm085.jsc.nasa.gov>
>Distribution: world
>
>
>: Was that the year when tu went to the cotton bowl? Can't remember who they
>: played. Refresh our memories.
>
> Oh yeah, that was Notre Dame -- oh wait, no no that's not right.
>Notre Dame kicked aggee ass in the Cotton Bowl. Hmmmm....
Not in '88. :-)
Jammer Jim Miller -- won *our* bowl game for 89-90 season, too.
Jason Fawcett
Just go the the library the Dallas newspaper the day of the game had 3 to 5
different stories about the New Attitude Longhorns taunting the Canes all
week. The newspaper even when so far as putting a angel's Halo picture
over the Hurricanes helmet.
The next year the NCAA used the first 10 film clips from the 90 Cotton Bowl
as a description of what is illegal taunting. Every team in NCAA had to
see this new NCAA rules film on illegal taunting. Miami called the NCAA film,
the Cane's Highlight film.
J.J.Clyde
>
>When I went to A&M I saw three victories in seven seasons over tu and
>that was considered a monumental achievement:
>
>1975 - 20-10 and it wasn't even that close, only tu TD was a punt
> return. Other than that I don't think they got past the twenty.
> Bubba Bean had a great day as RB.
Past the twenty?! That was one heck of a field goal then! Don't tell
me.... Mr. Glorious, Russell Erxlebenolethotep was on the field.
Anyone else think they should have cast Erxlebenolethotep as Ray Finkle
in _Ace Ventura_?
Awww, the good ole '70s. Back when UT was whupping A&M, Miami sucked,
Florida sucked, Skynyrd ruled, LSU was always bowl-bound but still knew
how to get waxed by Bama year in and year out. Now everything's gone
to pot.
--J.J.