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E. F. Hokie

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Oct 5, 2008, 2:57:17 PM10/5/08
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Google's tits up, and RSFC is a ghost town.


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"Your reality is what you make it, and no one has the right to impinge
their version of the truth upon you. Reject those who would seek to do
so, and welcome into your life those who see your version as a
complement to their own."

Frisbee®

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Oct 5, 2008, 3:01:05 PM10/5/08
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E. F. Hokie wrote:
> Google's tits up, and RSFC is a ghost town.

I get that most people need to use Google from work (firewalls/office
policy/etc) but you'd think most people would use their ISP's news provider
or some free one from home evenings and weekends.


Dan S.

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Oct 5, 2008, 3:54:05 PM10/5/08
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E. F. Hokie presented the following explanation :

> Google's tits up, and RSFC is a ghost town.

Google is for sheep.

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Yours,
Dan S.
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AssBurnMan

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Oct 5, 2008, 4:07:31 PM10/5/08
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"E. F. Hokie" <efh...@nah.nope> wrote in message
news:MPG.2352d8166...@news-europe.giganews.com...

> Google's tits up, and RSFC is a ghost town.
>
Googles for people that think the Web is the internet and have I no idea
how Usenet really works.


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----Tim Say's of Slick----
"You're a shitsucking moron!"


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Oct 5, 2008, 4:19:11 PM10/5/08
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On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 15:01:05 -0400, "Frisbee®"
<discg...@gEEmail.com>wrote:

Most people aren't bright enough to set up a fee account let alone a
news reader

Frisbee®

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Oct 5, 2008, 4:33:23 PM10/5/08
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After clicking send on that last post, that thought occurred to me as well.
I remember reading that it's estimated that only 10% of people who have
internet access use USENET. It would seem that when web access to the
groups are denied, it gets pretty quiet everywhere.

Perhaps someone (not named Frisbee) could set up a web page telling noobs
how to set up noose grope access, or maybe at least point to somewhere that
already does.

It's not rocket surgery after all.


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Oct 5, 2008, 4:53:23 PM10/5/08
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On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 16:33:23 -0400, "Frisbee®"
<discg...@gEEmail.com>wrote:

It's been done in several groups I post to yet no one seems to ever
attempt to use it

Forte's Free Agent free newsreader
http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Network_and_Internet/Newsreader_Tools/Free_Agent.html

X-News free newsreader
http://www.download.com/Xnews/3000-2164_4-10026377.html

Free news server
http://news.motzarella.org/RegisterNewsAccount.php

Chris Mihos

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Oct 5, 2008, 5:41:26 PM10/5/08
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See, here's the thing. I used to use a newsreader, then (as you say)
my employer (campus) cut off access. My home ISP has kind of sucky
newsgroup access. So I may as well switch over to google groups, as
crappy as they are.

When google cuts out, big deal. It's not like I miss much being off of
rsfc for a day. Basically I miss:

- everyone butt-sniffing mianderson's trolling
- a bazillion cut-n-pastes from 'winger blogs
- jaros' LOLs

forgive me for not bothering to set up better newsgroup service so
that I can see that.

if you all would be funnier, maybe i'd rethink this strategy.

Frisbee®

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Oct 5, 2008, 5:46:34 PM10/5/08
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So basically, you're giving us an "F?"

Crappe.


Tonawanda Kardex

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Oct 5, 2008, 6:00:39 PM10/5/08
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IAWTP ($1).

J.C. Watts Enslin

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Oct 5, 2008, 6:02:51 PM10/5/08
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IAWTP

Jon

GrtArtiste

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Oct 5, 2008, 6:24:19 PM10/5/08
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2nd that. For being free-ease of use-not caring to post or d'load
binaries, Google is adequate. If more is not needed, why bother? KISS

GrtArtiste

Dan Bretta

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Oct 5, 2008, 6:48:40 PM10/5/08
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Exzactly...I used to use a newsreader when I was on dial-up...years
back when I switched to Roadrunner rsfc was no longer really worth it
just to set up a new newsreader. Oh NOEZ GOOGLE GROOPS DIED
YESTERDAY WHAT WILL I DOO WITHOUT RSFC????

Dan

Plaidmoon

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Oct 5, 2008, 10:53:16 PM10/5/08
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On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 14:57:17 -0400, E. F. Hokie wrote:

> NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 13:57:16 -0500
> From: E. F. Hokie <efh...@nah.nope>
> Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
> Subject: How many of you use Google, anyway?
> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 14:57:17 -0400
> Message-ID: <MPG.2352d8166...@news-europe.giganews.com>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> User-Agent: MicroPlanet-Gravity/2.70.2067
> Lines: 10
> X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
> X-Complaints-To: ab...@giganews.com
> X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html
> X-Postfilter: 1.3.39
> Xref: aioe.org rec.sport.football.college:443716


>
> Google's tits up, and RSFC is a ghost town.

I used to use Google, but the last 48 hours was the final
straw.

Plaidmoon

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Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right...I hope I'm
at the circus!

Eric West

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Oct 5, 2008, 11:03:14 PM10/5/08
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FrisbeeŽ wrote...

>
> I get that most people need to use Google from work (firewalls/office
> policy/etc) but you'd think most people would use their ISP's news
provider
> or some free one from home evenings and weekends.

I'm in nearly the same boat as Mihos. My work/campus stopped Usenet service
years ago, and now my home ISP is about to dump it as well. I'll still be
able to read RSFC through any number of free news servers, but heaven knows
how I'll be able to post. (Which, of course, would make me wonder what the
point of reading would be...)

I've only ever used Google groups for searching, and their searcher has been
borked for ages. Does posting though Google work any better?

ecw
e-w...@northwestern.edu
GO CATS!! GO TOREROS!


gesund...@gmail.com

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Oct 5, 2008, 11:15:57 PM10/5/08
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On Oct 6, 4:07 am, "AssBurnMan" <scott.hendryx.clot...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> "E. F. Hokie" <efho...@nah.nope> wrote in messagenews:MPG.2352d8166...@news-europe.giganews.com...> Google's tits up, and RSFC is a ghost town.

>
> Googles for people that think the Web is the internet and have I no idea
> how Usenet really works.

Not everyone has access to newsgroups. Many ISPs no longer provide it.

SG

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Oct 5, 2008, 11:30:46 PM10/5/08
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ISP provision has what to do with access?

Dan S.

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Oct 5, 2008, 11:43:51 PM10/5/08
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SG submitted this idea :

So you sweetharts know, if I couldn't read your drivel, I'd drop the
ISP for one that offers it. <>SMOOCH<>--- kiss for youse.

NapalmHeart

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Oct 6, 2008, 3:46:13 AM10/6/08
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"Frisbee®" <discg...@gEEmail.com> wrote in
message
news:Wu9Gk.44153$rD2....@bignews4.bellsouth.net...

> ¤~Îñ©üßu§~¤ wrote:
>> On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 15:01:05 -0400, "Frisbee®"
>> <discg...@gEEmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> E. F. Hokie wrote:
>>>> Google's tits up, and RSFC is a ghost town.
>>>
>>> I get that most people need to use Google from
>>> work (firewalls/office
>>> policy/etc) but you'd think most people would
>>> use their ISP's news
>>> provider or some free one from home evenings
>>> and weekends.
>>
>> Most people aren't bright enough to set up a
>> fee account let alone a
>> news reader
>
> After clicking send on that last post, that
> thought occurred to me as well. I remember
> reading that it's estimated that only 10% of
> people who have internet access use USENET. It
> would seem that when web access to the groups
> are denied, it gets pretty quiet everywhere.

Most people I talk to that have internet access
don't have any knowledge of newsgroups.

Ken


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Oct 6, 2008, 5:05:08 AM10/6/08
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On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 20:15:57 -0700 (PDT), gesund...@gmail.comwrote:

ISP's have nothing to do with newsgroup access

J.C. Watts Enslin

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Oct 6, 2008, 8:24:00 AM10/6/08
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On Oct 6, 4:05 am, ¤~Îñ©üßu§~
¤
<sckf...@lycos.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 20:15:57 -0700 (PDT), gesundheit...@gmail.comwrote:

>
> >On Oct 6, 4:07 am, "AssBurnMan" <scott.hendryx.clot...@sbcglobal.net>
> >wrote:
> >> "E. F. Hokie" <efho...@nah.nope> wrote in messagenews:MPG.2352d8166...@news-europe.giganews.com...> Google's tits up, and RSFC is a ghost town.
>
> >> Googles for people that think the Web is the internet and have I no idea
> >> how Usenet really works.
>
> >Not everyone has access to newsgroups.  Many ISPs no longer provide it.
>
> ISP's have nothing to do with newsgroup access
>
> Free news serverhttp://news.motzarella.org/RegisterNewsAccount.php
>
> Forte's Free Agent free newsreaderhttp://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Network_and_Internet/Newsreader_To...
>
> X-News free newsreaderhttp://www.download.com/Xnews/3000-2164_4-10026377.html

I basically read one newsgroup....rsfc. I have no desire to download
and configure a newsreader when I have a simple bookmark on my browser
that calls it up pretty much instantly. Outside of the occasional
delays, there really isn't much of an issue. It's easy to read and to
post.

Jon

xyzzy

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Oct 6, 2008, 10:29:24 AM10/6/08
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On Oct 5, 5:41 pm, Chris Mihos <cmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 5, 3:01 pm, "Frisbee®" <discgolf...@gEEmail.com> wrote:
>
> > E. F. Hokie wrote:
> > > Google's tits up, and RSFC is a ghost town.
>
> > I get that most people need to use Google from work (firewalls/office
> > policy/etc) but you'd think most people would use their ISP's news provider
> > or some free one from home evenings and weekends.
>
> See, here's the thing. I used to use a newsreader, then (as you say)
> my employer (campus) cut off access. My home ISP has kind of sucky
> newsgroup access. So I may as well switch over to google groups, as
> crappy as they are.
>
> When google cuts out, big deal. It's not like I miss much being off of
> rsfc for a day. Basically I miss:
>

IAWTP. I was using newsreaders and newservers for years, but most of
usenet has withered away except for a few newsgroups, my firewalls at
work don't let me in, and yeah, I know there are free servers out
there but when I've tried them in the past they've been no better than
google and I have to keep changing as one goes tits up or decides to
start charging.

Plus with google I don't have locally stored state files so I can pick
up where I left off on usenet no matter which computer I am using --
this a a big advantage lots of you are overlooking.

Google is the easiest, simplest way to use usenet like I want to use
it, and I'm not going to make it less convenient on myself just
satisfy some OLD SKOOL USENET snobbery.

Eric Kemp

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Oct 6, 2008, 7:03:29 PM10/6/08
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Eric West wrote:
> FrisbeeŽ wrote...
>> I get that most people need to use Google from work (firewalls/office
>> policy/etc) but you'd think most people would use their ISP's news
> provider
>> or some free one from home evenings and weekends.
>
> I'm in nearly the same boat as Mihos. My work/campus stopped Usenet service
> years ago, and now my home ISP is about to dump it as well. I'll still be
> able to read RSFC through any number of free news servers, but heaven knows
> how I'll be able to post. (Which, of course, would make me wonder what the
> point of reading would be...)
>

Try aioe.org. They allow free posting.

¤~Îñ©üßu§~¤

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On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:03:29 -0400, Eric Kemp
<eric...@cox.net>wrote:

>Eric West wrote:
>> FrisbeeŽ wrote...
>>> I get that most people need to use Google from work (firewalls/office
>>> policy/etc) but you'd think most people would use their ISP's news
>> provider
>>> or some free one from home evenings and weekends.
>>
>> I'm in nearly the same boat as Mihos. My work/campus stopped Usenet service
>> years ago, and now my home ISP is about to dump it as well. I'll still be
>> able to read RSFC through any number of free news servers, but heaven knows
>> how I'll be able to post. (Which, of course, would make me wonder what the
>> point of reading would be...)
>>
>
>Try aioe.org. They allow free posting.

Only problem with aioe.org is it's a troll haven (similar to Google)
and most of us with newsreaders have the aioe.org plonked

Ward_Cleaver

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Oct 6, 2008, 7:30:58 PM10/6/08
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Install Agent Free or otherwise on a 2 gig flash drive and configure
it with your PAID NEWS Server account and put it in your pocket.

Frisbee®

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¤~Îñ©üßu§~¤ wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:03:29 -0400, Eric Kemp
> <eric...@cox.net>wrote:
>
>> Eric West wrote:
>>> Frisbee® wrote...

>>>> I get that most people need to use Google from work
>>>> (firewalls/office policy/etc) but you'd think most people would
>>>> use their ISP's news provider or some free one from home evenings
>>>> and weekends.
>>>
>>> I'm in nearly the same boat as Mihos. My work/campus stopped Usenet
>>> service years ago, and now my home ISP is about to dump it as well.
>>> I'll still be able to read RSFC through any number of free news
>>> servers, but heaven knows how I'll be able to post. (Which, of
>>> course, would make me wonder what the point of reading would be...)
>>>
>>
>> Try aioe.org. They allow free posting.
>
> Only problem with aioe.org is it's a troll haven (similar to Google)
> and most of us with newsreaders have the aioe.org plonked

It's also only slightly more reliable than google groups.


Peach

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> satisfy some OLD SKOOL USENET snobbery.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

IAWTP. Youse guys aren't that impotant.

Peach

Dan Bretta

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Oct 6, 2008, 8:42:09 PM10/6/08
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Heh.

Dan (how would you know anyway?)

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On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 17:34:29 -0700 (PDT), Peach
<straw...@lpbroadband.net>wrote:

You mean I post naked for nothing?

Jim Gysin

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gesund...@gmail.com sent the following on 10/5/2008 10:15 PM:

If you can get online, it doesn't matter whether your primary ISP
provides newsgroup coverage. Other options abound.

--
Jim Gysin
Waukesha, WI

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