Political smackdown of the month
honkifyoulovejustice
where a character with Down's says her mother is the ex-governor of
Alaska. The actress who voiced the part also has Down's and responds:
"In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have
a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother did not carry me
around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former
Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and
votes."
RaginPage
You really believe it wasn't out of line simply because the person
employed to speak the part doesn't think so?
Please.
Brent
Tom Enright
Deer Lowered.
That's not even a decent comeback let alone a "smack down." It's a
friggen embarassment.
-Tom Enright
> Brent
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Chris Bellomy
That's all you've got?
Dan Bretta
This is all part of the game that Sarah Palin loves and is making her
RICHER than Jesus Bacon. El Rushbo uses the word "Retard" and it's
"Satire" (Further proof that Rush is in charge of the GOP)...Family
Guy..a SATIRICAL cartoon show makes fun of her and it's "Shameful".
Dan
RaginPage
Making fun of her, we get that. I understand her anger, and agree
with her however on the portrayal.
Brent
RaginPage
I think that's a weak excuse, ergo a 1 line response.
Brent
Dan Bretta
that is thrown her way.
Dan
RaginPage
Eh. I think it's just a difference of opinion on where humor ends and
nastiness begins. I used to love things like that and South Park, and
now I pretty much detest their ugly efforts to get under people's
skin.
It isn't that I'm super offended by it, I expect those kinds of things
from the show. That's why I don't watch it.
IMO, Family Guy is just a bunch of random bytes that has no cleverness
whatsoever. You see satire, I see clutter.
Brent
Dan Bretta
by...I think it's okay to be offended. I don't think Family Guy would
have even gone there had Sarah Palin not made such a big deal about
Rahm Emanuel using the word "retard" and then dismissing Rush
Limbaugh's use of the word as "satire" when CLEARLY he used it in the
same manner that Emanuel did.
Dan
BillyZoom
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I pretty much detest people who used to love certain things and then
years later change and feel the need to share their enlightenment with
the rest of the class. Your tastes changed. You want a cookie?
BillyZoom
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You're goona burn up the gears in his head.
RaginPage
I didn't know about that at all.
Brent
RaginPage
>
I don't know where that ire comes from, especially since you are just
a sock, but I pretty much share whatever I feel like sharing and will
continue to do so.
Brent
Eric Ramon
you didn't know about Palin giving Rush a free pass and her
specifically excusing it as "satire"? And you don't see the hypocrisy
of her going after The Family Guy? You also apparently never knew
about Sen. David Vitter (R-Louisiana) and his diaper wearing escapades
with hookers. You need a new news source.
RaginPage
No, I didn't know about it, and I do see why you guys would jump on
her for that. Having said that, I have never, ever seen so much
hatred for someone that is only a former governor and only *might* be
a presidential candidate. She does keep throwing herself out there,
though, so I suppose fair game and all that.
As for Vitter, I just wasn't really paying attention to much of
anything at that time other than enjoying life. I probably should go
find that happy place again.
Brent
BillyZoom
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Uh-oh. I warned you. I can see the smoke coming out of his ears.
BillyZoom
1) I'm not a sock. Period.
2) Where does the ire come from? "I pretty much share whatever I feel
like sharing and will continue to do so". Have you ever had one of
those friends that likes to expound at length on thoughts and feelings
that are so...basic...that it makes you want to scream "we get it Mr.
Obvious". You're one of those people. You jump into every thread with
your non-thoughts. Everybody does it sometimes, but you do it so much
I've noticed you. Which, given the content of your posts is strange.
RaginPage
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Says the sock that tags nearly every thread with some lame one-liner
that he thinks is clever.
Okay.
Brent
honkifyoulovejustice
Wow. Then you really didn't get what the fuss is about.
Now I bet the Family Guy thing was written and recorded before the
whole Rahm/Rush/Retard affair, but that just goes to show that you
don't even have to go out of your way to lay a trap for ol' Sarah for
her to step in it.
J.C. Watts Enslin
I think Family Guy is hillarious...but I am incapable of empathy so
keep that in mind.
Jon
BillyZoom
One-liners are quick to read and a tradition in here. Your posts are
tedious and empty. Maybe I don't succeed at being funny. But I wish
you'd at least try.
And by what definition am I a sock? Either I totally misunderstand the
term (always possible) or you do.
Eric Ramon
>
> > you didn't know about Palin giving Rush a free pass and her
> > specifically excusing it as "satire"? And you don't see the hypocrisy
> > of her going after The Family Guy? You also apparently never knew
> > about Sen. David Vitter (R-Louisiana) and his diaper wearing escapades
> > with hookers. You need a new news source.- Hide quoted text -
>
> No, I didn't know about it, and I do see why you guys would jump on
> her for that. Having said that, I have never, ever seen so much
> hatred for someone that is only a former governor and only *might* be
> a presidential candidate. She does keep throwing herself out there,
> though, so I suppose fair game and all that.
>
> As for Vitter, I just wasn't really paying attention to much of
> anything at that time other than enjoying life. I probably should go
> find that happy place again.
>
> Brent
you know, of course, that she's a "former governor" because she quit,
right? She'd still be Governor of Alaska if she hadn't quit. I was
just reading the text of her resignation speech and I can't actually
find a reason why she quit, other than "taking my fight for what's
right for Alaska in a new direction." Oh yeah, and because she was
tired of the "silly accusations" of Troopergate, of misuse of funds,
that sort of thing. Anyway, you should read the text of the speech.
You'd probably like it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/03/sarah-palin-resignation-s_n_225557.html
I tried to find a Redstate link that you might be more comfortable
with but they apparently don't have the video or text.
YosemiteSam
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You've become indoctrinated. Your brain has been washed. You are now
under the control of a diabolical, thought control mechanism. You
have succumbed to the constant barage of mind controlling messages.
You are now completely, totally, feministically a PC pussy.
Action = reaction applies to life...period. There is serious stuff
and funny stuff. Both can be made fun of in and of themselves.
There's funny in Every aspect of the human existence, and that shirley
includes the shortcomings of others no matter the reason(s).
Continue to take the serious parts of your life as such, but your
thinking was what put Lenny Bruce in jail.
"The misfortune of another was more than likely the source for the
first joke told by man."
( I don't remember the d00d who spoke it so I'll drop a $1 to the
next homeless guy I see)
No offense bro, just lighten up, dying people still laugh all they
can.
YS
Tom Enright
> I think Family Guy is hillarious...but I am incapable of empathy so
> keep that in mind.
Family Guy is hillarious.
Making fun of a politician's kid is pretty weak, but I would draw the
line at the Down's Syndrome. Plenty of people 'round here went
apeshit when some politician or public right-winger made fun of
Chelsea Clinton. This is a perfect example of who's ox is being
algored.
-Tom Enright
> Jon
Anthony Summers
> "In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have
> a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother did not carry me
> around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former
> Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and
> votes."
Wow.
BOOM.
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Anthony Summers
> Deer Lowered.
>
> That's not even a decent comeback let alone a "smack down." It's a
> friggen embarassment.
Pssst, Enright... your bias is showing. That was a brutal smackdown.
Chris Bellomy
> On Feb 19, 4:21 pm, "J.C. Watts Enslin"<jens...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> I think Family Guy is hillarious...but I am incapable of empathy so
>> keep that in mind.
>
> Family Guy is hillarious.
> Making fun of a politician's kid is pretty weak,
You don't get it. The kid wasn't made fun of. The kid, in
fact, was a perfectly sympathetic character.
Dan Bretta
Not only that, but the kid was a girl, not a boy (Trig) and Sarah
Palin's name was never even uttered.
Dan
BillyZoom
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politician or public right-winger <> Family Guy
AND it was okay with her when a "public right-winger" said retard.
Huck Kennedy
> RaginPage wrote, On 2/19/10 11:57 AM:
>
> > <the.tick.honkifyoulovejust...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Sarah Palin gets her panties in a bunch about "Family Guy" and a joke
> >> where a character with Down's says her mother is the ex-governor of
> >> Alaska. The actress who voiced the part also has Down's and responds:
>
> >> a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother did not carry me
> >> around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former
> >> Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and
> >> votes."
>
> > employed to speak the part doesn't think so?
>
> That's all you've got?
Et tu, Czar? Jeebus Effing Christ on a pogo stick, can't any of
you read? The quoted segment says that the person who read the part
didn't just read the part--she actually has Down's Syndrome herself.
So to answer Brent's question, the hell yes she has a right to voice
an opinion on whether or not it's out of line.
And secondly, yes, her putdown of Sarah Palin was the Political
Smackdown of the Month (if not the decade). Here, it was so good,
I'll repost it here just to savor it some more:
"My mother did not carry me around under her arm like a loaf of French
bread the way former Governor Palin carries her son Trig around
looking for sympathy and votes."
which is exactly what that hypocritical bitch did during the election.
Huck
RaginPage
> On Feb 19, 12:35 pm, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog@sirhc> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > RaginPage wrote, On 2/19/10 11:57 AM:
>
> > > On Feb 19, 12:33 pm, honkifyoulovejustice
> > > <the.tick.honkifyoulovejust...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Sarah Palin gets her panties in a bunch about "Family Guy" and a joke
> > >> where a character with Down's says her mother is the ex-governor of
> > >> Alaska. The actress who voiced the part also has Down's and responds:
>
> > >> "In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have
> > >> a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother did not carry me
> > >> around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former
> > >> Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and
> > >> votes."
>
> > > You really believe it wasn't out of line simply because the person
> > > employed to speak the part doesn't think so?
>
> > That's all you've got?
>
> Et tu, Czar? Jeebus Effing Christ on a pogo stick, can't any of
> you read? The quoted segment says that the person who read the part
> didn't just read the part--she actually has Down's Syndrome herself.
> So to answer Brent's question, the hell yes she has a right to voice
> an opinion on whether or not it's out of line.
Let me state that in a more clear manner. An employee of family guy
getting a paycheck from them, who clearly approved of the script
before agreeing to read it, no matter whether she has Down's Syndrome
or not, is probably NOT the best voice for deciding whether or not
that was over the line. That was the point I was making. Obviously,
in trying to be concise, that point was missed. She more than likely
does not speak for Down's syndrome sufferers or their families. So
let's be clear about that.
> And secondly, yes, her putdown of Sarah Palin was the Political
> Smackdown of the Month (if not the decade). Here, it was so good,
> I'll repost it here just to savor it some more:
>
> "My mother did not carry me around under her arm like a loaf of French
> bread the way former Governor Palin carries her son Trig around
> looking for sympathy and votes."
>
> which is exactly what that hypocritical bitch did during the election.
That is probably more offensive than the Family Guy script. You
assume intent, and that is wrong.
I didn't jump on that because the person making the quote has Down's
and I didn't know if it was a line she repeated or not, so I didn't
want to assume anything about her.
It was politically snarkiness at it's most base.
Those making points about Palin and her comments about Rush, and the
piece itself wherein it was not making fun of Trig, changed my
opinion.
You, on the other hand, make David Lowe's point every time you do this
crap.
Brent
Huck Kennedy
> On Feb 19, 5:54 pm, Huck Kennedy <tempeh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > And secondly, yes, her putdown of Sarah Palin was the Political
> > Smackdown of the Month (if not the decade). Here, it was so good,
> > I'll repost it here just to savor it some more:
>
> > "My mother did not carry me around under her arm like a loaf of French
> > bread the way former Governor Palin carries her son Trig around
> > looking for sympathy and votes."
>
> > which is exactly what that hypocritical bitch did during the election.
>
> That is probably more offensive than the Family Guy script. You
> assume intent, and that is wrong.
You are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine.
Probably more than anyone in this forum and almost assuredly more than
you I've researched the trail of self-serving and back-stabbing shit
she left behind in Alaska, and I think Sarah Palin earned her nickname
Sarah Barracuda a long, long time ago, and that the moniker is
remarkably accurate with respect to both her actions and her
underlying lack of character.
I think the person's quote about the loaf of bread is dead on
accurate. And I would much sooner believe Levi Brown's claim that
Sarah Palin called Trig "her retarded baby" than her obviously
calculated manufactured outrage over Rahm Emanuel's private remark.
Huck
RaginPage
Okay, so at least we can then say that this has absolutely nothing to
do with the appropriateness of the cartoon, and everything to do with
your hatred of Sarah Palin.
Got it.
I'm not much of a fan of hers, but I think your allegiances blind you
to any sort of unbiased view of her "trail".
I chimed in more as a commentary on Family Guy, not so much about
Sarah Palin, I consider myself more educated now on this situation.
Brent
Huck Kennedy
No, it originally had to do with whether or not the actress with
Down's Syndrome had the right to her opinion on the appropriateness of
the cartoon. I'm usually pretty precise with my words, learn to read.
> and everything to do with
> your hatred of Sarah Palin.
>
> Got it.
That was for good measure.
> I'm not much of a fan of hers, but I think your allegiances blind you
> to any sort of unbiased view of her "trail".
You know what, Brett? I'm getting fairly sick and tired of you
telling me why or how I think. Unlike you, I don't question your
motives, I simply argue for or against your points. That's the second
time you've pulled this crap in the last couple of months. And the
irony is that you just finished lecturing me only a few minutes ago
about assuming intent. Follow your own damn advice, please.
Huck
Tom Enright
> On Feb 19, 5:00 pm, Tom Enright <freddy_ha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 19, 4:21 pm, "J.C. Watts Enslin" <jens...@charter.net> wrote:
>
> > > I think Family Guy is hillarious...but I am incapable of empathy so
> > > keep that in mind.
>
> > Family Guy is hillarious.
> > Making fun of a politician's kid is pretty weak, but I would draw the
> > line at the Down's Syndrome. Plenty of people 'round here went
> > apeshit when some politician or public right-winger made fun of
> > Chelsea Clinton. This is a perfect example of who's ox is being
> > algored.
>
> > -Tom Enright
>
> > > Jon
> politician or public right-winger <> Family Guy
>
> AND it was okay with her when a "public right-winger" said retard.
So what? I think going after a kid is pretty shitty, I don't care if
the parents are on the right or left. The Downs Syndrome aspect
makes it extra-special douchebaggy.
-Tom Enright
Dan Bretta
Dan
BillyZoom
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And there's no difference to society if the offender is in the media
or government vs. the the comedy industry? M'Okay. It's okay with her
if Rush does it, but not Family Guy. Do you agree? And if you don't,
why do you agree with her calling out Family Guy but not Rush? That's
what we're talking about. Rush is a cartoon posing as a political
player. What he says concerns me far more than what Seth McFarlane
writes. The premise is that Family Guy did it to parody the fact that
"retard" is acceptable only on one side.
Chris Bellomy
> On Feb 19, 12:35 pm, Chris Bellomy<ten.wohsdoog@sirhc> wrote:
>> RaginPage wrote, On 2/19/10 11:57 AM:
>>
>>> On Feb 19, 12:33 pm, honkifyoulovejustice
>>> <the.tick.honkifyoulovejust...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Sarah Palin gets her panties in a bunch about "Family Guy" and a joke
>>>> where a character with Down's says her mother is the ex-governor of
>>>> Alaska. The actress who voiced the part also has Down's and responds:
>>
>>>> "In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have
>>>> a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother did not carry me
>>>> around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former
>>>> Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and
>>>> votes."
>>
>>> You really believe it wasn't out of line simply because the person
>>> employed to speak the part doesn't think so?
>>
>> That's all you've got?
>
> Et tu, Czar?
Uh, what?
cb
RaginPage
Which I explained my position and you didn't bother to respond to that
at all.
> > and everything to do with
> > your hatred of Sarah Palin.
>
> > Got it.
>
> That was for good measure.
It was the only thing you posted about in response to me.
> > I'm not much of a fan of hers, but I think your allegiances blind you
> > to any sort of unbiased view of her "trail".
>
> You know what, Brett? I'm getting fairly sick and tired of you
> telling me why or how I think. Unlike you, I don't question your
> motives, I simply argue for or against your points. That's the second
> time you've pulled this crap in the last couple of months. And the
> irony is that you just finished lecturing me only a few minutes ago
> about assuming intent. Follow your own damn advice, please.
Wait a minute, you admit the above by saying "that was for good
measure", so how am I getting your intent wrong?
I don't get it, seriously.
If you really wanted to talk about the actress and her opinion, you
might have responded to that part of my post. But you didn't. I may
have assumed intent, but the difference is, you have an opportunity to
respond.
Brent
Huck Kennedy
Perhaps I read too much into your reply, but to me it indicated
that you were accepting Brent's premise about the "person employed to
speak the part" when you asked "Is that all you've got?" Because it
wasn't simply some random person reading a part--the person also had
Down's Syndrome, which was a key fact being left out.
The trouble with one-line snarks is that they can often leave too
much leeway for the reader.
Huck
Huck Kennedy
Because I had no issue with your explanation. I guess I was
supposed to say, "Oh."
> > > and everything to do with
> > > your hatred of Sarah Palin.
>
> > > Got it.
>
> > That was for good measure.
>
> It was the only thing you posted about in response to me.
Because you took issue about my opinion about the loaf of bread
quote.
> > > I'm not much of a fan of hers, but I think your allegiances blind you
> > > to any sort of unbiased view of her "trail".
>
> > You know what, Brett? I'm getting fairly sick and tired of you
> > telling me why or how I think. Unlike you, I don't question your
> > motives, I simply argue for or against your points. That's the second
> > time you've pulled this crap in the last couple of months. And the
> > irony is that you just finished lecturing me only a few minutes ago
> > about assuming intent. Follow your own damn advice, please.
>
> Wait a minute, you admit the above by saying "that was for good
> measure", so how am I getting your intent wrong?
>
> I don't get it, seriously.
No I do not "admit the above." Sure, I admit to hating Sarah
Palin. I think she is a prime example of the very worst in politics.
That does not mean that I admit to your ridiculous premise that just
because I've researched Sarah Palin and decided she is a complete
shitbag does not mean my opinion about her trail of foul deeds is
"biased." The research came first.
Huck
Chris Bellomy
> On Feb 19, 6:11 pm, Chris Bellomy<ten.wohsdoog@sirhc> wrote:
>> Huck Kennedy wrote, On 2/19/10 4:54 PM:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 19, 12:35 pm, Chris Bellomy<ten.wohsdoog@sirhc> wrote:
>>>> RaginPage wrote, On 2/19/10 11:57 AM:
>>
>>>>> On Feb 19, 12:33 pm, honkifyoulovejustice
>>>>> <the.tick.honkifyoulovejust...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Sarah Palin gets her panties in a bunch about "Family Guy" and a joke
>>>>>> where a character with Down's says her mother is the ex-governor of
>>>>>> Alaska. The actress who voiced the part also has Down's and responds:
>>
>>>>>> "In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have
>>>>>> a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother did not carry me
>>>>>> around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former
>>>>>> Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and
>>>>>> votes."
>>
>>>>> You really believe it wasn't out of line simply because the person
>>>>> employed to speak the part doesn't think so?
>>
>>>> That's all you've got?
>>
>>> Et tu, Czar?
>>
>> Uh, what?
>
> Perhaps I read too much into your reply, but to me it indicated
> that you were accepting Brent's premise about the "person employed to
> speak the part" when you asked "Is that all you've got?"
You read too much into it, or the wrong thing. It wasn't
out of line for an almost endless number of reasons beyond
the half-hearted attempt of "person employed to speak the
part," which itself was so carefully phrased it kinda made
me chuckle.
I think Brent knew he was whipped before he started
this time.
cb
BillyZoom
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Hey genius. You gonna explain to me why I'm a "sock" or are you just
waiting to put you foot in me? Heh.
The BorgMan
7ba456...@t11g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
> Let me state that in a more clear manner. An employee of family guy
> getting a paycheck from them, who clearly approved of the script
> before agreeing to read it, no matter whether she has Down's Syndrome
> or not, is probably NOT the best voice for deciding whether or not
> that was over the line. That was the point I was making. Obviously,
> in trying to be concise, that point was missed. She more than likely
> does not speak for Down's syndrome sufferers or their families. So
> let's be clear about that.
>
Neither does Sarah Palin.
--
Aaron
GregoryD
> Sarah Palin gets her panties in a bunch about "Family Guy" and a joke
> where a character with Down's says her mother is the ex-governor of
> Alaska. The actress who voiced the part also has Down's and responds:
>
> "In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have
> around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former
> Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and
> votes."
>
Someone needs to tell that retard that Palin isn't running for office.
GregoryD
Anthony Summers
> Someone needs to tell that retard that Palin isn't running for office.
>
> GregoryD
Say, Greg... you wouldn't happen to be Republican, would you?
I mean, it's hard to tell from your posts... so I was wondering.
Va Beach Hokie
(summers...@yahoo.com) wrote
> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 09:33:02 -0800 (PST), honkifyoulovejustice
> wrote...
>
>> "In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me
>> to have a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother
>> did not carry me around under her arm like a loaf of French
>> bread the way former Governor Palin carries her son Trig around
>> looking for sympathy and votes."
>
> Wow.
>
> BOOM.
>
Call me a cynic, but that must be one high functioning Downs to have
issued that and other statements attributed to her.
Va Beach Hokie
wrote
You do know Family Guy has lampooned Downs symptoms on dozens of
occasions, right? Yet this is the first time the backlash has hit
the mainstream media. If it weren't for the Alaska reference,
Palin wouldn't even give a fuck. She's a true media savvy martyr.
Anthony Summers
> > Wow.
> >
> > BOOM.
> Call me a cynic, but that must be one high functioning Downs to have
> issued that and other statements attributed to her.
Cynic. I've met Downs folks who work in offices.
Dan Bretta
> On Fri 19 Feb 2010 05:06:04p, Anthony Summers
My guess is that she's been around discussions of Palin and how she
does indeed lug Trig around like a prop.
Dan
GregoryD
> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:54:15 -0600, GregoryD wrote...
>
>> Someone needs to tell that retard that Palin isn't running for office.
>>
>> GregoryD
>
> Say, Greg... you wouldn't happen to be Republican, would you?
>
> I mean, it's hard to tell from your posts... so I was wondering.
>
No.
GregoryD
Dan Bretta
Dan
GregoryD
Nope.
What have I ever said that makes you think I support the Republicans or
the lunatic fringe on the right? Was it my support for single payer
healthcare, my "raise taxes, cut the budget" philosophy, or that I voted
for Obama despite the fact that I knew he didn't have the experience or
leadership potential, simply because McCain is damned near senile?
Sometimes, the government being completely mired down because a lack of
political will is its own reward.
Just like being an asshole is its own reward. I just figured that if
the Family Guy crew is going to get in on the action, then I might as
well get it over with before it's shark jumping season.
GregoryD
Anthony Summers
> >> Someone needs to tell that retard that Palin isn't running for office.
> >>
> >> GregoryD
> >
> > Say, Greg... you wouldn't happen to be Republican, would you?
> >
> > I mean, it's hard to tell from your posts... so I was wondering.
> >
>
> No.
Admitting it is the first step, d00d.
Glen Heiman
"Dan Bretta" <nud...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 19, 2:04 pm, RaginPage <btpage0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 19, 2:58 pm, Dan Bretta <nuda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Feb 19, 11:33 am, honkifyoulovejustice
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> > <the.tick.honkifyoulovejust...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Sarah Palin gets her panties in a bunch about "Family Guy" and a joke
> > > where a character with Down's says her mother is the ex-governor of
> > > Alaska. The actress who voiced the part also has Down's and responds:
>
> > > a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother did not carry me
> > > around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former
> > > Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and
> > > votes."
>
> > RICHER than Jesus Bacon. El Rushbo uses the word "Retard" and it's
> > "Satire" (Further proof that Rush is in charge of the GOP)...Family
> > Guy..a SATIRICAL cartoon show makes fun of her and it's "Shameful".
>
> Making fun of her, we get that. I understand her anger, and agree
> with her however on the portrayal.
>
Well, either she doesn't understand satire or she can't take satire
that is thrown her way.
Judging from your comment two paragraphs above, it's obvious satire is not
in your wikipedia.
Heiman
Dan
Dan Bretta
> "Dan Bretta" <nuda...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Are you sure you're Mensa?
Dan
RaginPage
So that means you take into account everything I've "researched" and
take it at face value?
Please. I find it highly ironic that you make this claim, when you
are one of those bleating on about things like health care and it's
people like me and a few others that actually take the time to read
some of the bill.
Your hatred of Srah Palin, researched or not, makes your blathering
about her rather than the topic of the post seem absolutely
fanatical. Just so you know.
Brent
RaginPage
> Huck Kennedy wrote, On 2/20/10 4:13 PM:
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> > On Feb 19, 6:11 pm, Chris Bellomy<ten.wohsdoog@sirhc> wrote:
> >> Huck Kennedy wrote, On 2/19/10 4:54 PM:
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> >>> On Feb 19, 12:35 pm, Chris Bellomy<ten.wohsdoog@sirhc> wrote:
> >>>> RaginPage wrote, On 2/19/10 11:57 AM:
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> >>>>> On Feb 19, 12:33 pm, honkifyoulovejustice
> >>>>> <the.tick.honkifyoulovejust...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> Sarah Palin gets her panties in a bunch about "Family Guy" and a joke
> >>>>>> where a character with Down's says her mother is the ex-governor of
> >>>>>> Alaska. The actress who voiced the part also has Down's and responds:
>
> >>>>>> "In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have
> >>>>>> a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother did not carry me
> >>>>>> around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former
> >>>>>> Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and
> >>>>>> votes."
>
> >>>>> You really believe it wasn't out of line simply because the person
> >>>>> employed to speak the part doesn't think so?
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> >>>> That's all you've got?
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> >>> Et tu, Czar?
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> >> Uh, what?
>
> > Perhaps I read too much into your reply, but to me it indicated
> > speak the part" when you asked "Is that all you've got?"
>
> You read too much into it, or the wrong thing. It wasn't
> out of line for an almost endless number of reasons beyond
> the half-hearted attempt of "person employed to speak the
> part," which itself was so carefully phrased it kinda made
> me chuckle.
>
> this time.
>
No, I didn't. I realized about the time I found out she gave Limbaugh
a pass. Once she does that, she doesn't get to act offended anymore.
Brent
RaginPage
> RaginPage <btpage0...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:a53d32c3-7d01-4e36-babe-
> 7ba456a1f...@t11g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
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> > Let me state that in a more clear manner. An employee of family guy
> > getting a paycheck from them, who clearly approved of the script
> > before agreeing to read it, no matter whether she has Down's Syndrome
> > or not, is probably NOT the best voice for deciding whether or not
> > that was over the line. That was the point I was making. Obviously,
> > in trying to be concise, that point was missed. She more than likely
> > does not speak for Down's syndrome sufferers or their families. So
> > let's be clear about that.
>
> Neither does Sarah Palin.
>
No, but she has a right to speak out when the reference was clearly
drawn to her family. The only reason I'm agreeing in this one
instance, is her free pass for Limbaugh. It amazes me the length some
people go to to find ways to criticize Palin.
I can't imagine a single one of you RSFCers that would think it was
reasonable to poke fun at another RSFCer using their special needs
child to do so. You might do it, but you'd know it is wrong. And yet
you guys turn this around as a critique on Palin.
Seriously, what is wrong with you guys?
Brent
RaginPage
> On Fri 19 Feb 2010 07:33:18p, Tom Enright (freddy_ha...@yahoo.com)
>
She probably doesn't watch Family Guy. I'm sure someone is going to
tell her if there is a reference to her, however.
Yet another unfair criticism.
Brent
RaginPage
Maybe he checks this sporadically, like I do. I have times when I can
check this more often than other times. For quite a while starting in
the next week or so, I imagine I won't be on here at all.
Brent
Dan Bretta
not for your flurry of posts defending Palin. You're acting like
she's your mother or something.
Dan
RaginPage
Yeah, sometimes I come back on and let them go, and sometimes I don't.
I just don't honestly get the ire she gets relative to other figures.
Brent
Jim Brown
<the.tick.honkifyoulovejust...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sarah Palin gets her panties in a bunch about "Family Guy" and a joke
> where a character with Down's says her mother is the ex-governor of
> Alaska. The actress who voiced the part also has Down's and responds:
>
> "In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have
> a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother did not carry me
> around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former
> Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and
> votes."
Like that line of thinking wasnt put in her head.
Dan Bretta
and you don't get the ire and ridicule that she receives?
Are you new to this country?
Dan
Jim Brown
> On Feb 19, 12:35 pm, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog@sirhc> wrote:
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> > RaginPage wrote, On 2/19/10 11:57 AM:
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> > > <the.tick.honkifyoulovejust...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Sarah Palin gets her panties in a bunch about "Family Guy" and a joke
> > >> where a character with Down's says her mother is the ex-governor of
> > >> Alaska. The actress who voiced the part also has Down's and responds:
>
> > >> "In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have
> > >> a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother did not carry me
> > >> around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former
> > >> Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and
> > >> votes."
>
> > > employed to speak the part doesn't think so?
>
> > That's all you've got?
>
> you read? The quoted segment says that the person who read the part
> didn't just read the part--she actually has Down's Syndrome herself.
> So to answer Brent's question, the hell yes she has a right to voice
> an opinion on whether or not it's out of line.
>
> And secondly, yes, her putdown of Sarah Palin was the Political
> Smackdown of the Month (if not the decade). Here, it was so good,
> I'll repost it here just to savor it some more:
>
> bread the way former Governor Palin carries her son Trig around
> looking for sympathy and votes."
>
>
If the girl has such a mild case of downs syndrome that she can not
only act, but come up with politcal 'smackdowns', then she really has
little idea what Palin is going through with Trig. I grew up with a
Down's brother...severe enough that acting or political pondering is
not even a glimmering hope.
Jim Brown
> On Feb 19, 4:10 pm, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog@sirhc> wrote:
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> > Tom Enright wrote, On 2/19/10 4:00 PM:
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> > > On Feb 19, 4:21 pm, "J.C. Watts Enslin"<jens...@charter.net> wrote:
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> > >> I think Family Guy is hillarious...but I am incapable of empathy so
> > >> keep that in mind.
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> > > Family Guy is hillarious.
> > > Making fun of a politician's kid is pretty weak,
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> > fact, was a perfectly sympathetic character.
>
> Not only that, but the kid was a girl, not a boy (Trig) and Sarah
> Palin's name was never even uttered.
>
So you are saying that they WERENT making fun of the Palins dan?
Really?
Jim Brown
> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 03:35:30 GMT, Va Beach Hokie wrote...
> > > Wow.
>
> > > BOOM.
> > Call me a cynic, but that must be one high functioning Downs to have
> > issued that and other statements attributed to her.
>
> Cynic. I've met Downs folks who work in offices.
And thusly, if they were that high functioning, they were likely not
completely helpless as infants and small children. Its like saying a
man getting a small slow growing cancer spot removed from his skin is
the same as the man who has end stage lung cancer. This gal wasn't
"carried around like a loaf of bread" because she didnt need to be.
The BorgMan
4506bf...@e7g2000yqf.googlegroups.com:
> On Feb 22, 11:16�am, The BorgMan <m...@me.net> wrote:
>> RaginPage <btpage0...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:a53d32c3-7d01-4e36-
babe-
>> 7ba456a1f...@t11g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
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>> > Let me state that in a more clear manner. �An employee of family guy
>> > getting a paycheck from them, who clearly approved of the script
>> > before agreeing to read it, no matter whether she has Down's
Syndrome
>> > or not, is probably NOT the best voice for deciding whether or not
>> > that was over the line. �That was the point I was making. �Obviousl
> y,
>> > in trying to be concise, that point was missed. �She more than
likely
>> > does not speak for Down's syndrome sufferers or their families. �So
>> > let's be clear about that.
>>
>> Neither does Sarah Palin.
>>
>
> No, but she has a right to speak out when the reference was clearly
> drawn to her family.
She has a right to comment on anything she wants. Doing so has it's
consequences though. Same with the actress in question.
Neither of them speaks for Downs folks, just for themselves.
> I can't imagine a single one of you RSFCers that would think it was
> reasonable to poke fun at another RSFCer using their special needs
> child to do so.
If they did something that deserved it, sure I would.
Use your kid as a political prop and parade them in front of the public -
you get what you get,
--
Aaron
Dan Bretta
No...I very well know they were making fun of Palin. Her name was
never mentioned though and as far as I know Sarah Palin doesn't have a
mentally handicapped daughter. They certainly weren't making fun of
Trig or the mentally handicapped and that seems to be what the Palin's
and some posters here are upset about.
Dan
rastafar...@yahoo.com
1. Apparently there is a spectrum of Down's, and I am sorry to hear
about your brother.
2. The actress in question mentioned having a part on Life Goes On" as
well, so seems to be high-functioning. But she still has Down's
Syndrome.
3. A 6-month-old infant, Down's or not, needs to be carried around.
I was appalled, to tell you the truth, to see how Trig was handled
after the VP debate in 2008. A "loaf of bread" would be generous.
Watch the tape -- it was 11pm, bright lights, loud crowd, and Trig
gets passed around from Palin to Palin, ends up in the 7-year-old's
(Piper, I think) hands with his head hanging down to the floor because
it was not being supported properly.
Trig was being used as a prop on that occasion at least. Neither
Sarah nor Todd noticed this, but I did, and it is available for all to
see on any recording of the event. I remember the days of having a 6-
month old (I had twins, in fact, and things could get chaotic). I was
_always_ conscious of who was holding them and how they were being
held. I would never have let a pre-teen hold them on a hard floor.
rastafar...@yahoo.com
See my other post. Trig was handled very carelessy after the VP
debate (when he was 6 months old). On that occasion at least, Trig
was used (and handeld) like a prop, and it is on tape for all to see.
Jim Brown
Most six month olds are very capable of holding up their heads and
resting on a mother's hip. I'm not going to argue about how the
Palins handled Trig at the convention, because I dont remember. For
some to insinuate they are the only pols to ever use their kids as
props is ridiculous. For some to pretend that this gal thought of
this "smackdown" all on her own, thus making it some sort of "super
smackdown" is ridiculous as well. I'm not certain of Trigs mental
capacities, but with even moderately severe downs symptoms, living a
"normal life" like this gal apparently has is generally not in the
cards.
RaginPage
She lost. As a vice-presidential candidate. There is a sense of
proportion here that I am missing entirely.
Brent
Huck Kennedy
What is this nonsensical goalpost shift? I didn't ask you to
take my research at face value. I asked you to stop making the
fatuous accusation that my research of Sarah Palin was biased in
advance by my dislike for Sarah Palin.
> Please. I find it highly ironic that you make this claim,
*What* claim? Your the one making a claim that my research is
somehow automatically "biased."
> when you
> are one of those bleating on about things like health care
The only "bleating on" I've done about heath care is to call for
the defeat of the Senate bill. Oops! Guess you fucked that one up,
eh?
> and it's
> people like me and a few others that actually take the time to read
> some of the bill.
Ooops again! Guess you fucked that one up, eh?
> Your hatred of Srah Palin, researched or not, makes your blathering
> about her rather than the topic
Sarah Palin dragging her kid around under her arm WAS the damn
topic. Are you high?
Huck
Anthony Summers
> Most six month olds are very capable of holding up their heads and
> resting on a mother's hip. I'm not going to argue about how the
> Palins handled Trig at the convention, because I dont remember.
I remember, and I debated on posting about it at the time.
Dan Bretta
at Tea Parties, and she wrote a book and went on tour....and every
single perceived slight real or not she puts out a press release.
Dan
RaginPage
> On Feb 26, 6:31 am, RaginPage <btpage0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Feb 20, 5:27 pm, Huck Kennedy <tempeh...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > No I do not "admit the above." Sure, I admit to hating Sarah
> > > Palin. I think she is a prime example of the very worst in politics.
> > > That does not mean that I admit to your ridiculous premise that just
> > > because I've researched Sarah Palin and decided she is a complete
> > > shitbag does not mean my opinion about her trail of foul deeds is
> > > "biased." The research came first.
>
> > So that means you take into account everything I've "researched" and
> > take it at face value?
>
> What is this nonsensical goalpost shift? I didn't ask you to
> take my research at face value. I asked you to stop making the
> fatuous accusation that my research of Sarah Palin was biased in
> advance by my dislike for Sarah Palin.
Please, Ralph. How on earth would I come to any other conclusion?
You make Keith Olberman look conservative.
> > Please. I find it highly ironic that you make this claim,
>
> *What* claim? Your the one making a claim that my research is
> somehow automatically "biased."
And?
> > when you
> > are one of those bleating on about things like health care
>
> The only "bleating on" I've done about heath care is to call for
> the defeat of the Senate bill. Oops! Guess you fucked that one up,
> eh?
Yes, because it wasn't liberal enough for you. You weren't exactly in
the center on that one.
> > and it's
> > people like me and a few others that actually take the time to read
> > some of the bill.
>
> Ooops again! Guess you fucked that one up, eh?
No, I didn't. You guys didn't have a clue what was in that bill, and
you showed it by what you had to say on the matter.
> > Your hatred of Srah Palin, researched or not, makes your blathering
> > about her rather than the topic
>
> Sarah Palin dragging her kid around under her arm WAS the damn
> topic. Are you high?
>
No, it wasn't. That just demonstrates your apoplectic bias. Get a
clue, or pop a vein, your choice. The topic was Family Guy using a
kid with Down's to take a potshot at Sarah Palin and whether or not
that was appropriate. YOU, decide that it's a format on how Sarah
Palin uses or doesn't use her kid for political game. Heinous.
Seriously.
Brent
RaginPage
Yes, and Al Gore wins Nobel prizes, was the vice-president, lost a
PRESIDENTIAL bid, and is giving interviews everywhere and you don't
see him getting the lightning rod treatment that Sar.... oh wait.
Good point.
Brent
Huck Kennedy
> On Feb 26, 5:10 pm, Huck Kennedy <tempeh...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
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> > On Feb 26, 6:31 am, RaginPage <btpage0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 20, 5:27 pm, Huck Kennedy <tempeh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > No I do not "admit the above." Sure, I admit to hating Sarah
> > > > Palin. I think she is a prime example of the very worst in politics.
> > > > That does not mean that I admit to your ridiculous premise that just
> > > > because I've researched Sarah Palin and decided she is a complete
> > > > shitbag does not mean my opinion about her trail of foul deeds is
> > > > "biased." The research came first.
>
> > > So that means you take into account everything I've "researched" and
> > > take it at face value?
>
> > What is this nonsensical goalpost shift? I didn't ask you to
> > take my research at face value. I asked you to stop making the
> > fatuous accusation that my research of Sarah Palin was biased in
> > advance by my dislike for Sarah Palin.
>
> Please, Ralph. How on earth would I come to any other conclusion?
> You make Keith Olberman look conservative.
At least you're now back to admitting your ridiculous accusation
instead of trying to change the goal posts, I'll say that for you.
And now, unless you are a complete hypocrite, you have written
off 90% of the people in this forum, to wit, everyone who isn't dead
center and counts themselves as predominantly on either the left or
the right.
A word of advice--your job is to debate on the evidence presented
in this forum. Simply braying "anything you say is biased" as though
you were on a sixth-grade schoolyard is not a serious argument--it
only shows your complete bankruptcy of any sort of real response. If
one of your opponent's arguments really were that specious--in other
words, based solely upon bias and nothing else--it should be simple
for you to shoot it down with facts and actual logic, rather than
hiding behind a childish taunt that "NOTH1N6 U SAY CAN B RITE BECUZ U
R OBVIOUSLY BIA5ED!!@!!"
Huck
Huck Kennedy
> On Feb 26, 5:10 pm, Huck Kennedy <tempeh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The only "bleating on" I've done about heath care is to call for
> > the defeat of the Senate bill. Oops! Guess you fucked that one up,
> > eh?
>
> Yes, because it wasn't liberal enough for you. You weren't exactly in
> the center on that one.
So that makes it "bleating?" Anything not dead center is
"bleating?"
> > > and it's
> > > people like me and a few others that actually take the time to read
> > > some of the bill.
>
> > Ooops again! Guess you fucked that one up, eh?
>
> No, I didn't. You guys
Who the hell is "you guys?"
> didn't have a clue what was in that bill, and
> you showed it by what you had to say on the matter.
What utter bullshit. You have zero respect for your opponents,
and you lump them all together as though they were one person.
Either show proof that specific people don't know what's in the
bill or cease your insulting postings.
You can start by defining "you guys." And then you can continue
by showing how each of "us guys" individually has demonstrated not
knowing what is in the health bill.
Then again, you can just stop these ridiculous accusations you
keep making about people being more biased than you, or of "not
knowing what's in the bill being discussed."
Huck
RaginPage
That might be true. If you had leveled anything at all against Palin
except for simply saying you researched her.
You didn't. When someone doesn't throw up anything of substance in a
debate to begin with, you can't exactly pick it apart with facts,
because there isn't anything to pick apart. It's your OPINION. Get
real.
That's why I'm not on here still discussing this with Chris, he
already pointed out the salient point. Palin gave a pass to Limbaugh
for doing something similar to what Emmanuel did, while blasting
Emannuel. That kind of behavior is enough to leave it alone for me,
but you insist on attacking Palin outside of that scope.
Demonstrating that this isn't about the original topic for you.
Unfortunately, what you accomplish by this, is making Palin a
sympathetic character.
Brent
rastafar...@yahoo.com
> On Feb 22, 9:35 pm, Va Beach Hokie <wjl...@provider.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Fri 19 Feb 2010 05:06:04p, Anthony Summers
> > (summerstorm0...@yahoo.com) wrote
>
> > > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 09:33:02 -0800 (PST), honkifyoulovejustice
> > > wrote...
>
> > >> "In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me
> > >> to have a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother
> > >> did not carry me around under her arm like a loaf of French
> > >> bread the way former Governor Palin carries her son Trig around
> > >> looking for sympathy and votes."
>
>
> > > BOOM.
>
> > Call me a cynic, but that must be one high functioning Downs to have
> > issued that and other statements attributed to her.
>
> does indeed lug Trig around like a prop.
She seems to have done a pretty straightforward phone interview.
Funny how she gets that the joke is on Sarah Palin, but some in this
chatrum donot get it.
Chris Bellomy
...and twists into an attack on her family.
Not to be unduly alarmist, but that kind of shit is
extremely goddam dangerous.
cb
Huck Kennedy
No shit. I never claimed it was more than an opinion. This was
my exact response to you:
> > > That is probably more offensive than the Family Guy script. You
> > > assume intent, and that is wrong.
> >
> > You are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine.
I never claimed it to be more than an opinion. I then went on
to say that I researched Palin and that's how I came to my opinion,
whereupon you started making ridiculous accusations that I am not
entitled to MY opinion because you think my research was biased.
> Unfortunately, what you accomplish by this, is making Palin a
> sympathetic character.
To you, maybe.
Huck
RaginPage
> On Feb 26, 3:42 pm, RaginPage <btpage0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 26, 5:10 pm, Huck Kennedy <tempeh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > The only "bleating on" I've done about heath care is to call for
> > > the defeat of the Senate bill. Oops! Guess you fucked that one up,
> > > eh?
>
> > Yes, because it wasn't liberal enough for you. You weren't exactly in
> > the center on that one.
>
> So that makes it "bleating?" Anything not dead center is
> "bleating?"
>
> > > > and it's
> > > > people like me and a few others that actually take the time to read
> > > > some of the bill.
>
> > > Ooops again! Guess you fucked that one up, eh?
>
> > No, I didn't. You guys
>
> Who the hell is "you guys?"
You, Bellomy, Xavier, Bretta, Mia and anyone else spouting just enough
to sound intelligent without actually reading it.
> > didn't have a clue what was in that bill, and
> > you showed it by what you had to say on the matter.
>
> What utter bullshit. You have zero respect for your opponents,
> and you lump them all together as though they were one person.
>
> Either show proof that specific people don't know what's in the
> bill or cease your insulting postings.
I did it at the time. I can't help it if you didn't defend yourself
well enough in those threads to convince anyone you had read the
bills.
> You can start by defining "you guys." And then you can continue
> by showing how each of "us guys" individually has demonstrated not
> knowing what is in the health bill.
>
> Then again, you can just stop these ridiculous accusations you
> keep making about people being more biased than you, or of "not
> knowing what's in the bill being discussed."
>
In this one instance, it is easy to paint with the broad brush because
the party line was so cohesive. Buzzwords, single-payer, public
option, party of NO, Republicans had no ideas of their own, System is
broken and it is cheaper to spend a trillion now than several trillion
in the coming years to rising health care costs.
Likewise, on the Republican side, plan mobility, tort reform,
catstrophic coverage, and the Dems won't listen to any ideas but their
own.
Virtually NOBODY was talking about the billions of dollars allocated
to a single person to use at their discretion to either supplement
those that needed the most help, or not, at their whim. Nobody was
talking about allocating to that same person the ability to establish
and create waiting lists and to ration whatever procedures they felt
necessary in order to make the funding work. Except being shouted
down by those that didn't actually read the bill, very few talked
about how the bill enabled illegal aliens to take advantage of and use
the new benefits at taxpayer expense. Nobody talked about the
exclusion of doctor salaries that were called for, and yet not
disclosed as an actual number or accounted for in the accounting of
the cost of the bill. Nobody talked about the administrative costs
involved.
Some ardent Obama supporters I know that are actually in favor of
health care reform, just like you, and were against the bills, again,
like you, actually talked about those points, including the gradual
phasing out of private plans. So I know there are some people that
want the costly Democratic-style health care reform that actually did
read the bill. I'm just surprised that with all the time many people
on here seem to have, that it wasn't any of you.
Brent
Huck Kennedy
Defend myself? You never challenged a thing I said. Probably
because I came out AGAINST the bill and not for it, dumnass.
Then why are you lumping me in with those who don't know what's
in the bill?
> So I know there are some people that
> want the costly Democratic-style health care reform that actually did
> read the bill. I'm just surprised that with all the time many people
> on here seem to have, that it wasn't any of you.
Why wasn't it me? I came out against the bill.
What the hell is wrong with you? And just because I tend to
favor a single-payer system, why does that PRO0F!!@!1! I don't know
what's in the current bill, the bill that I do not like?
Huck
RaginPage
There it is.
Name-calling. You know what that says about the debate.
BTW, Bretta was against it too, and I believe Bellomy was as well.
What does that have to do with it?
Because you didn't discuss those points. Not that I can recall, if
you did and I missed it, I apologize.
> > So I know there are some people that
>
> > want the costly Democratic-style health care reform that actually did
> > read the bill. I'm just surprised that with all the time many people
> > on here seem to have, that it wasn't any of you.
>
> Why wasn't it me? I came out against the bill.
>
> What the hell is wrong with you? And just because I tend to
> favor a single-payer system, why does that PRO0F!!@!1! I don't know
> what's in the current bill, the bill that I do not like?
>
It's just that all I saw on here was the same rhetoric that was on TV
and the same rhetoric that the candidates were using to stake out
their positions. Thoughtful discourse on the subject, which does
occur once in a while on other topics in this forum, didn't happen
here, not on health care. Again, if I missed something I apologize,
but I didn't see anything new from anybody.
Brent
stephenJ
> Sarah Palin gets her panties
anything that has to do with sarah's panties is A+ in anyone's book.
--
It is easier to win over people to pacifism than socialism.
We should work first for pacifism, and only later for socialism.
- Albert Einstein
Anthony Summers
> > Sarah Palin gets her panties
>
> anything that has to do with sarah's panties is A+ in anyone's book.
...only if someone stuffs them into her mouth and shuts her up.
Huck Kennedy
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:02:52 -0600, stephenJ wrote...
> > > Sarah Palin gets her panties
>
> > anything that has to do with sarah's panties is A+ in anyone's book.
>
> ...only if someone stuffs them into her mouth and shuts her up.
IAWTP. At this point, any physical attractiveness she once might
have had in my eyes has long since been overridden by her lack of
character and just plain stupidity. She is now in the same category
to me as when M1EK Dahmus chose Ann Coulter in the first RSFC Babe
Draft solely for a grudge rsfck.
Huck
stephenJ
ann coulter isn't in sarah's league, looks-wise. and what else really
matters?
--
What is sacred has changed in this culture. The Prophet Mohammed and
Jesus Christ
are not sacred anymore, while Jews and the Holocaust and homosexuality have
become sacred.
- Ayman al-Zawahri