I told you so (re: McCain's Campaigns End Strategy)
Google Beta User
Commie Commie Commie
Troop Hater Troop Hater Troop Hater
We are the *real* patriots *wink* *wink*
"Is he *really* an American like us?"
Sarah Palin now saying she wants to bring up Wright (though it's
Mccain's call)
etc etc
The onslaughts started.
J.C. Watts Enslin
He's swinging for the fences again. Obama is going to bring up
Keating and probably Palin's back taxes.
This last four weeks cannot go fast enough.
Jon
stephenj
> The onslaughts started.
an onslaught against obama's political character is necessary and
well-deserved, but it can't win for mccain.
mccain's fundamental problem is that the economy is the dominant issue,
and he hasn't articulated a 'plan' to address it that resonates with MOR
voters.
now to be sure, obama hasn't articulated a coherent plan to address the
economy either, but he has done a good job of pretending to have one and
of getting that message out.
mccain is running out of time to do the same.
--
.. unless her great neighbors are prosperous
and orderly, Poland is an economic impossibility
with no industry but Jew-baiting.
- JM Keynes
Tom Enright
> Ayers Ayers Ayers Ayers
>
> Commie Commie Commie
...cite?
> Troop Hater Troop Hater Troop Hater
...cite?
> We are the *real* patriots *wink* *wink*
...cite?
> "Is he *really* an American like us?"
...cite?
> Sarah Palin now saying she wants to bring up Wright (though it's
> Mccain's call)
>
> etc etc
>
> The onslaughts started.
Well, you are correct on bringing-up Ayers and Wright, although I fail
to see the problem with that, and they have been brought-up before,
the rest (aka the most damning of your allegations)? No.
-Tom Enright
"In short, Obama's ties to Ayers and Wright suggest to me NOT that
Obama agrees with their views, but that he is the product of a
particular intellectual culture that finds the likes of Wright and
Ayers to be no more objectionable, and likely less so, than the likes
of Tom Coburn, or, perhaps, a Rush Limbaugh. Not only that, but he has
been in his particular intellectual bubble so long that he was unable
to recognize just how offensive the views of a Wright are to
mainstream America, or how his ties to Ayers would play with the
public, especially post-9/11."
-Eugene Volokh
Google Beta User
> > The onslaughts started.
>
> Well, you are correct on bringing-up Ayers and Wright, although I fail
> to see the problem with that, and they have been brought-up before,
> the rest (aka the most damning of your allegations)? No.
Your problem is you think unless Palin *specifically* says "Obama is
not a real American like you or me. I am" that it is not being
implied.
Of course something can be implied without directly being said.
But hey, let them, they make themselves look REAL presidential and
serious like, if that's what they want to talk about.
Chanting "Ayers! Un-Patriotic!" still doesn't tell the independents or
undecideds why they should vote for McCain-Palin and what McCain and
Palin will do *for them* that will improve the direction of their
lives.
Google Beta User
> Commie Commie Commie
Though this is NOT what I was referring too, it's still funny:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hby_5Pku5ywmfC_rEtEV5BcYKR5gD93KFH4O0
And yes, I know some hardcore left-wing types do similar stuff, but
that's the point. It's for the fringes and kooks. When actual high
level surrogates, and the ticket itself descend to such tactics its
pathetic desperation.
C The Shocker
> On Oct 6, 9:56 am, Tom Enright <freddy_ha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> The onslaughts started.
>> Well, you are correct on bringing-up Ayers and Wright, although I fail
>> to see the problem with that, and they have been brought-up before,
>> the rest (aka the most damning of your allegations)? No.
>
> Your problem is you think unless Palin *specifically* says "Obama is
> not a real American like you or me. I am" that it is not being
> implied.
>
> Of course something can be implied without directly being said.
That would mean opening your eyes to double meanings in McCain/Palin's
rhetoric, which Enright and his ilk specifically don't want to do (or
are unable to). Believe me, the people are getting the message.
> But hey, let them, they make themselves look REAL presidential and
> serious like, if that's what they want to talk about.
>
> Chanting "Ayers! Un-Patriotic!" still doesn't tell the independents or
> undecideds why they should vote for McCain-Palin and what McCain and
> Palin will do *for them* that will improve the direction of their
> lives.
Yes, but fear, racism, and xenophobia are real and dangerous weapons
that McCain and Palin wield, and they've been proven to be effective on
countless occasions.
-
C The Shocker
All women are pigs with lipstick!
Dan Bretta
I know...isn't it crazy???
Dan
Google Beta User
UNPATRIOTIC~!
Tom Enright
> On Oct 6, 9:56 am, Tom Enright <freddy_ha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > The onslaughts started.
>
> > Well, you are correct on bringing-up Ayers and Wright, although I fail
> > to see the problem with that, and they have been brought-up before,
> > the rest (aka the most damning of your allegations)? No.
> Your problem is you think unless Palin *specifically* says "Obama is
> not a real American like you or me. I am" that it is not being
> implied.
> Of course something can be implied without directly being said.
Absolutely.
> But hey, let them, they make themselves look REAL presidential and
> serious like, if that's what they want to talk about.
>
> Chanting "Ayers! Un-Patriotic!" still doesn't tell the independents or
> undecideds why they should vote for McCain-Palin and what McCain and
> Palin will do *for them* that will improve the direction of their
> lives.
Absolutely.
--Tom Enright
Tom Enright
Joe Biden has already done the "McCain hates the troops" attack. So
-Tom Enright
Google Beta User
> > Of course something can be implied without directly being said.
>
> Absolutely.
>
> > But hey, let them, they make themselves look REAL presidential and
> > serious like, if that's what they want to talk about.
>
> > Chanting "Ayers! Un-Patriotic!" still doesn't tell the independents or
> > undecideds why they should vote for McCain-Palin and what McCain and
> > Palin will do *for them* that will improve the direction of their
> > lives.
>
> Absolutely.
Fair enough.
You don't appear to be McCain's biggest fan anyway.
One byproduct of the two party system is you get some weird
alliances. Conservatives like you IMO are nothing at all like the
Palin-Christian Right type of conservatives.
E. F. Hokie
Don't you work for one of the major auto manufacturers, Enright?
Get to work, you slacker.
--
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"Your reality is what you make it, and no one has the right to impinge
their version of the truth upon you. Reject those who would seek to do
so, and welcome into your life those who see your version as a
complement to their own."
Tom Enright
<pdxch...@verizon.FUCKYOUSPAMMERS.net> wrote:
> Google Beta User wrote:
> > On Oct 6, 9:56 am, Tom Enright <freddy_ha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>> The onslaughts started.
> >> Well, you are correct on bringing-up Ayers and Wright, although I fail
> >> to see the problem with that, and they have been brought-up before,
> >> the rest (aka the most damning of your allegations)? No.
> > Your problem is you think unless Palin *specifically* says "Obama is
> > not a real American like you or me. I am" that it is not being
> > implied.
> >
> > Of course something can be implied without directly being said.
> That would mean opening your eyes to double meanings in McCain/Palin's
> rhetoric, which Enright and his ilk specifically don't want to do (or
> are unable to). Believe me, the people are getting the message.
Bullshit.
I asked for cites which means you can give the exact words that you
"predicted" would be used and now say have been used -OR- you can
explain how some rather normal-sounding statements are really secret
accusations of communism or are actually racist.
So far you've implied that you have the proof, but you won't bother
sharing it because I wouldn't understand. Sorry, when you author a
post that says "I told you so, see how smart I am!" and than avoid
actually backing-it-up with examples one can only reasonably come to
the conclusion that you are full of shit.
> > But hey, let them, they make themselves look REAL presidential and
> > serious like, if that's what they want to talk about.
> >
> > Chanting "Ayers! Un-Patriotic!" still doesn't tell the independents or
> > undecideds why they should vote for McCain-Palin and what McCain and
> > Palin will do *for them* that will improve the direction of their
> > lives.
> Yes, but fear, racism, and xenophobia are real and dangerous weapons
> that McCain and Palin wield, and they've been proven to be effective on
> countless occasions.
I haven't seen McCain or Palin play on race, as Obama has, both sides
can be accused of cultivating "fear." Xenophobia? How does has that
played into the election?
You've made some very serious allegations, but can't back them up.
Thus far the only one who has been using race, fear and xenophobia as
political weapons IS YOU.
-Tom Enright
"There is a teenaged immaturity about the rest of the world's
relationship with the US. Whenever a serious crisis erupts somewhere,
our dependence on the US becomes obvious, and many hate the US because
of it. That the hatred is irrationa l is beside the point."
-The Australian
Chris Bellomy
And let's not forget Todd Palin's secessionist self...
cb
Dan Bretta
> On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 08:36:02 -0700 (PDT), Tom Enright wrote...
> > On Oct 6, 10:06 am, Google Beta User <wanyik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Oct 6, 9:43 am, Google Beta User <wanyik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Commie Commie Commie
>
> > > Though this is NOT what I was referring too, it's still funny:http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hby_5Pku5ywmfC_rEtEV5BcYKR5gD93KFH4O0
>
> > > And yes, I know some hardcore left-wing types do similar stuff, but
> > > that's the point. It's for the fringes and kooks. When actual high
> > > level surrogates, and the ticket itself descend to such tactics its
> > > pathetic desperation.
>
> > Joe Biden has already done the "McCain hates the troops" attack. So
>
> Don't you work for one of the major auto manufacturers, Enright?
>
> Get to work, you slacker.
>
usenet.
Dan
xyzzy
It's disappointing to see McCain sink to these tactics and it's
definitely going to get ugly fast. BUT....
What other choice does McCain have? The issues aren't winners for
him. His own war hero past isn't a winner for him (if it was, Bob
Dole would have beaten Clinton in 1996 to succeed GHWB's 2nd term and
John Kerry would have followed him as President).
No one can expect McCain and the Republicans to go down quietly to a
10-15 point defeat while conceding 60 Senate seats to the Democrats.
If all they can do to close the gap is throw mud, that's what they're
going to do. It's the job of Obama and the Democrats to win this, not
to watch McCain lose it. I think Obama just needs to keep his cool
and contrast that with McCain's semi-regular flip-outs.
lein
What office is Todd running for?
lein
Obama himself says he's not like all those former presidents on the
dollar bills.
Zaphod Beeblebrox
Same one that Wright's running for.
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I'm so cool you can keep a side of meat in me for months.
lein
McCain isn't loosing on the issues, he's losing because the economy is
tanking. The irony is that it was the Democrats who blocked Fannie/
Freddie reforms years ago which lead to this.
Chris Bellomy
Co-Vice President. Duh.
cb
lein
wrote:
> lein presented us with the following on 10/6/2008 12:57 PM:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 6, 9:22 am, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog@sirhc> wrote:
> >> J.C. Watts Enslin wrote, On 10/6/08 8:50 AM:
>
> >>> On Oct 6, 8:43 am, Google Beta User <wanyik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Ayers Ayers Ayers Ayers
> >>>> Commie Commie Commie
> >>>> Troop Hater Troop Hater Troop Hater
> >>>> We are the *real* patriots *wink* *wink*
> >>>> "Is he *really* an American like us?"
> >>>> Sarah Palin now saying she wants to bring up Wright (though it's
> >>>> Mccain's call)
> >>>> etc etc
> >>>> The onslaughts started.
> >>> He's swinging for the fences again. Obama is going to bring up
> >>> Keating and probably Palin's back taxes.
> >> And let's not forget Todd Palin's secessionist self...
>
> > What office is Todd running for?
>
> Same one that Wright's running for.
So why is it McCain's fault that Hillary played the Wright card?
Chris Bellomy
Oh, btw... what office is Bill Ayers running for?
NapalmHeart
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Orange J. Dood
<jan.lei...@gmail.com>?
> McCain isn't loosing on the issues, he's losing because the
> economy is tanking. The irony is that it was the Democrats who
> blocked Fannie/ Freddie reforms years ago which lead to this.
You mispolet "Republican-controlled Congress under Clinton" but don't
let the facts get in the way of a good rant. Carry on, soldier!
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>
> He's swinging for the fences again. Obama is going to bring up
> Keating and probably Palin's back taxes.
Katie Couric asked Sarah Palin about the Keating 5 and surprisngly she
answered without hesitation. "Oh, I know that one!" she shouted
gleefully.
"John McCain, Michael, Marlon, Jermaine, and Tito!"
John Rogers
you like the same things I do! Wax paper! Boiled football leather! Dog
breath!
>On Oct 6, 9:56 am, Tom Enright <freddy_ha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > The onslaughts started.
>>
>> Well, you are correct on bringing-up Ayers and Wright, although I fail
>> to see the problem with that, and they have been brought-up before,
>> the rest (aka the most damning of your allegations)? No.
>
>Your problem is you think unless Palin *specifically* says "Obama is
>not a real American like you or me. I am" that it is not being
>implied.
Ahhhhhhhhh... we're back to the Secret Super-Duper Little Orphan Annie
Main Stream Media Code Ring.
Why didn't you just say that in the first place?
DRINK MORE OBAMATINE!!!
John Rogers
AU Class of 1985
The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"I mean, you’ve got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate
and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a story-book, man,"
(Senator Joseph Biden)
John Rogers
you like the same things I do! Wax paper! Boiled football leather! Dog
breath!
>On Oct 6, 10:06 am, Google Beta User <wanyik...@gmail.com> wrote:
And "independent" Trent Woodruff has done it right here in this here
chatrum with PFC Bryan "M3 2!!!! M3 2!!!" Slick right behind him.
John Rogers
like the same things I do! Wax paper! Boiled football leather! Dog
breath!
>On Oct 6, 9:44 am, xyzzy <xyzzy.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually he IS losing on the issues... since he's always pretty much
been Democrat-Lite (disregarding his latest "LOOK HOW CONSERVATIVE I
AM!!!" campaign over the last few months), it's not confusing at all
to understand why many people are already saying "well, I might as
well vote for the real thing".
John Rogers
<no_this_isnt@my_email.com>... you like the same things I do! Wax
paper! Boiled football leather! Dog breath!
>Who lives in a pineapple under the sea, lein
><jan.lei...@gmail.com>?
>
>> McCain isn't loosing on the issues, he's losing because the
>> economy is tanking. The irony is that it was the Democrats who
>> blocked Fannie/ Freddie reforms years ago which lead to this.
>
>You mispolet "Republican-controlled Congress under Clinton" but don't
>let the facts get in the way of a good rant. Carry on, soldier!
Forty Dem's in the Senate is all it took, dude.
NapalmHeart
Fair enough.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
About how I see it for myself, too. They aren't
my favorite members of the right either.
Ken
trent_w...@yahoo.com
> And "independent" Trent Woodruff has done it right here in this here
> chatrum with PFC Bryan "M3 2!!!! M3 2!!!" Slick right behind him.
Yeah, that was terribly biased of me to bring up McCain and Obama's
actual voting record as it relates to both military veterans and
active
duty members. It must seem like I hate the military to folks like you
who
are so busy screaming anti-Democratic warchants that you can't
seem to figure out that McCain's record on this issue is pathetically
abysmal to anyone who is paying attention at all. Thankfully, many
veterans ARE paying attention, and McCain is getting his ass whipped
handily in that demographic because of it.
lein
wrote:
> Who lives in a pineapple under the sea, lein
>
> > McCain isn't loosing on the issues, he's losing because the
> > economy is tanking. The irony is that it was the Democrats who
> > blocked Fannie/ Freddie reforms years ago which lead to this.
>
> You mispolet "Republican-controlled Congress under Clinton" but don't
> let the facts get in the way of a good rant. Carry on, soldier!
You mean that Republican-controlled Congress that voted for Gramm-
Leach-Bliley Act in the Senate with a 90-8-1 vote and in the House
362-57-15? Yeah, that sure was a partisan vote.
MoParMaN
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: On Oct 6, 10:20 am, "Orange J. Dood" <no_this_isnt@my_email.com>
The Orange Dood has lost it, he no longer has any sense when it comes to
business or politics. I move that he be removed from the HOF and replaced
my a totally non-partcial candidate. I nominate Matthew Hennig!
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lein
> You're not like the others, lein <jan.leine.we...@gmail.com>... you
Yeah, you wonder what would have happened if McCain stood up against
the bill all along, a populous position that would have about an 80-20
public support. The problem is what would have happened if nothing
was actually done and the Stock Market tanked like it did anyways.
They would all say it was because McCain didn't support the rescue
package.
My gut feeling is that Reid/Pelosi intentionally spiked the first
attempt at the $700B bill by putting the ACORN subsidies, especially
given the way Pelosi poisoned the well with her speech right before
the vote. The longer this drags out, the better it is for Obama.
The little secret Obama cool aid drinkers like to think is that the
electorate moved to Obama in the past two weeks (by 10 points) because
they just all of a sudden embraced his platform top to bottom and
think he's a swell guy. They didn't, they are clearly reacting to
wall street and following the "blame the administration in office".
A large number of them don't follow politics until the last month and
don't think there is a dimes worth of difference between the parties.
Torrey M. Spears
John McCain needs to say it boldly and clearly tonight.
I am not George W. Bush.
- TMS
Google Beta User
> One byproduct of the two party system is you get
> some weird
> alliances. Conservatives like you IMO are nothing
> at all like the
> Palin-Christian Right type of conservatives.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> About how I see it for myself, too. They aren't
> my favorite members of the right either.
>
> Ken
I actually kind of dig conservatives. *Actual* conservatives. I don't
always agree with them, but I like the persuasive way in which people
like Krauterhammer, Novak and George Will are able to argue their
points, and they display a very important charecteristic -
levelheadedness and an ability to think for themselves.
A far cry from the bigot-xenophobic and intolerant bible thumping
fundamentalist crowd for sure. This crowd seems to have hijacked the
GOP, and IMO is a big reason why they are being rejected. I mean look
at recent GOP rallies...."terrorist!"..."Kill him!". Shocking.
The GOP will need to go through a re-birth.
Google Beta User
> John McCain needs to say it boldly and clearly tonight.
>
> I am not George W. Bush.
>
> - TMS
Won't work.
It's been seared into the electorate's brains, just like how Kerry
couldn't shake of his 'effette' image and the swiftboat thing in 2004.
On the areas where he's *different* from the administration, its
usually to the left of them, and he's not going to publically remind
people of that.
He's running an odd campaign....claiming Maverick (a reputation earned
by being relatively liberal on quite a few issues), while at the same
time wanting to appear like he's a hardcore conservative. I say
'appear' as I'm certain if he was President, he'd be a much more
liberal president than the base would be comfortable with. It
wouldn't shock me to see him compromise on judges even.
Kyle T. Jones
or thereabouts, when you let the following craziness loose on Usenet:
> My gut feeling is that Reid/Pelosi intentionally spiked the first
> attempt at the $700B bill by putting the ACORN subsidies, especially
> given the way Pelosi poisoned the well with her speech right before
> the vote. The longer this drags out, the better it is for Obama.
>
Yer "gut feeling" is at odds with reality. Might want to get it checked
(hint: the ACORN stuff was removed from the first bill the House voted
down... the one where "Pelosi poisoned the well with her speech right
before the vote.")
Pluseth, this bailout is horrible for anyone that's in the middle-class.
It's nothing more than an attempt to keep things afloat just long
enough for the folks that caused this crisis in the first place to get
liquid (not in US currency, tho!!!) before they let things crash out and
buy back in.
Cheers.
Torrey M. Spears
If by odd, you mean disasterous, then IAWT. The proof is in the
pudding on the Senate bill.
McCain saw the bill loaded up with pork spending (presumably, I mean,
*I* knew the bill had pork in it)
and he voted for it anyway.
That is extremely troubling to me. At least with Obama, I know he's
going to rape my wallet with a wink and a smile looking me in the
face.
Do I need McCain to give me the reacharound?
I heard he talked about having Al Gore in his Climate Crisis Council
or something? I mean, good grief.
- TMS
E. F. Hokie
> >Joe Biden has already done the "McCain hates the troops" attack. So
>
> And "independent" Trent Woodruff has done it right here in this here
> chatrum with PFC Bryan "M3 2!!!! M3 2!!!" Slick right behind him.
Huh? Cite or retract, Rogers.
--
E.F. Hokie
"Your reality is what you make it, and no one has the right to impinge
their version of the truth upon you. Reject those who would seek to do
so, and welcome into your life those who see your version as a
complement to their own."
Dan Bretta
> On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:06:33 -0400, John Rogers wrote...
> > >Joe Biden has already done the "McCain hates the troops" attack. So
>
> > And "independent" Trent Woodruff has done it right here in this here
> > chatrum with PFC Bryan "M3 2!!!! M3 2!!!" Slick right behind him.
>
> Huh? Cite or retract, Rogers.
>
Dan
John Rogers
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do! Wax paper! Boiled football leather! Dog breath!
>
>"lein" <jan.lei...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>: On Oct 6, 10:20 am, "Orange J. Dood" <no_this_isnt@my_email.com>
>: wrote:
>: > Who lives in a pineapple under the sea, lein
>: > <jan.leine.we...@gmail.com>?
>: >
>: > > McCain isn't loosing on the issues, he's losing because the
>: > > economy is tanking. The irony is that it was the Democrats who
>: > > blocked Fannie/ Freddie reforms years ago which lead to this.
>: >
>: > You mispolet "Republican-controlled Congress under Clinton" but don't
>: > let the facts get in the way of a good rant. Carry on, soldier!
>:
>:
>: You mean that Republican-controlled Congress that voted for Gramm-
>: Leach-Bliley Act in the Senate with a 90-8-1 vote and in the House
>: 362-57-15? Yeah, that sure was a partisan vote.
>:
>The Orange Dood has lost it, he no longer has any sense when it comes to
>business or politics. I move that he be removed from the HOF and replaced
>my a totally non-partcial candidate. I nominate Matthew Hennig!
I guess noone told you...
Hennig is ghey.
John Rogers
the same things I do! Wax paper! Boiled football leather! Dog breath!
>On Oct 7, 1:00 pm, E. F. Hokie <efho...@nah.nope> wrote:
MWHID, moran.
Dan Bretta
> You're not like the others, Dan Bretta <nuda...@yahoo.com>... you like
> the same things I do! Wax paper! Boiled football leather! Dog breath!
>
> >On Oct 7, 1:00 pm, E. F. Hokie <efho...@nah.nope> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:06:33 -0400, John Rogers wrote...
> >> > >Joe Biden has already done the "McCain hates the troops" attack. So
>
> >> > And "independent" Trent Woodruff has done it right here in this here
> >> > chatrum with PFC Bryan "M3 2!!!! M3 2!!!" Slick right behind him.
>
> >> Huh? Cite or retract, Rogers.
>
> >HWIDH.
>
> MWHID, moran.
>
Dan
trent_w...@yahoo.com
> The little secret Obama cool aid drinkers like to think is that the
> electorate moved to Obama in the past two weeks (by 10 points) because
> they just all of a sudden embraced his platform top to bottom and
> think he's a swell guy. They didn't, they are clearly reacting to
> wall street and following the "blame the administration in office".
> A large number of them don't follow politics until the last month and
> don't think there is a dimes worth of difference between the parties.- Hide quoted text -
As you've all heard more times than you'd probably care to think
about, I have
for the longest time believed there is little difference between the
parties.
However, the combination of the Bush Administration (which I voted
for)
and this election (and I've always been a huge McCain fan) is leading
me to
believe that there has been a fundamental shift in the Republican
party TOWARD THE NEGATIVE.
Kyle T. Jones
They've gone to winning simply for the sake of winning, rather than
winning to enact positive change. IMO. I had high hopes when Newt got
the ball rolling. Those hopes have been pretty well squashed at this point.
Cheers.
Edward M. Kennedy
> They've gone to winning simply for the sake of winning, rather than winning to enact positive change. IMO. I had high hopes when
> Newt got the ball rolling. Those hopes have been pretty well squashed at this point.
The GOP's abandonment of their "Contract With America" was a watershed
event. I lost whatever shred of respect I had for the GOP. Even Reagan
was a big spender in ways.
(It's funny, at the time some libertarians were saying, "Our 'Contract
With America' is called the Constitution.")
--Tedward
Chris Bellomy
> "Kyle T. Jones" <KBf...@realdomain.net> wrote
>
>> They've gone to winning simply for the sake of winning, rather than winning to enact positive change. IMO. I had high hopes when
>> Newt got the ball rolling. Those hopes have been pretty well squashed at this point.
>
> The GOP's abandonment of their "Contract With America" was a watershed
> event.
"Contract *ON* America." Get the terminology correct.
cb
you didn't really think they were serious, did you?
trent_w...@yahoo.com
> They've gone to winning simply for the sake of winning, rather than
> winning to enact positive change. IMO. I had high hopes when Newt got
> the ball rolling. Those hopes have been pretty well squashed at this point.
The silence from the GOP side of the house in here regarding McCain's
voting record for the military and military retirees sickens me.
Orange J. Dood
<tige...@yahoo.com>?
>>The Orange Dood has lost it, he no longer has any sense when it
>>comes to business or politics. I move that he be removed from
>>the HOF and replaced my a totally non-partcial candidate. I
>>nominate Matthew Hennig!
>
> I guess noone told you...
>
> Hennig is ghey.
Show him the picture.
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John Rogers
<no_this_isnt@my_email.com>... you like the same things I do! Wax
paper! Boiled football leather! Dog breath!
>Who lives in a pineapple under the sea, John Rogers
><tige...@yahoo.com>?
>
>>>The Orange Dood has lost it, he no longer has any sense when it
>>>comes to business or politics. I move that he be removed from
>>>the HOF and replaced my a totally non-partcial candidate. I
>>>nominate Matthew Hennig!
>>
>> I guess noone told you...
>>
>> Hennig is ghey.
>
>Show him the picture.
I really hate to embarass him like this, but if you insist.
Here's Hennig at the latest Hawtlanta Fishy-bawl...
http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/o/johnmrog/hennig01.jpg
John Rogers
AU Class of 1985
The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"Violent ground acquisition games such as football are in fact
a crypto-fascist metaphor for nuclear war."
NapalmHeart
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Excellent observation that I agree with. I hope
to be a part, albeit a small part, but a part of
that rebirth. The Republican party needs to get
back to its true roots.
Ken