Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Your old calc text book

1 view
Skip to first unread message

sam

unread,
Jan 6, 2010, 2:41:13 PM1/6/10
to
So I'm taking a bunch of books to Goodwill. Most of
the decisions are easy, but for some reason not this
one.

Question: Did your get rid of your old calc text book,
or did you keep it? I still have mine. I will never,
ever use it, I'm sure. But something makes me want
to hang on to it, probably because I spent so much
time in it.

s

Va Beach Hokie

unread,
Jan 6, 2010, 2:47:05 PM1/6/10
to

I kept Calc, Physics, Real Analysis, Number Theory, and
Combinatorics. The rest went to Goodwill.

I kept them because of their very rare reference value and in the case
of the last three I doubted even Goodwill would be able to sell them.

JGibson

unread,
Jan 6, 2010, 2:49:40 PM1/6/10
to
On Jan 6, 2:41 pm, sam <nos...@nospam.spam> wrote:

I kept mine. But then again, I also used it much later in life when I
needed to write a program to calculate an integral, and needed to
remember how Simpson's Rule worked.

Ben Stewart

unread,
Jan 6, 2010, 2:50:09 PM1/6/10
to

Couldn't burn it fast enough.

Besides is there anything you can't find online anyway?

BillyZoom

unread,
Jan 6, 2010, 2:52:14 PM1/6/10
to

Sold in 1979 and consumed in liquid form.

the_andr...@yahoo.com

unread,
Jan 6, 2010, 3:03:33 PM1/6/10
to
On Jan 6, 2:41 pm, sam <nos...@nospam.spam> wrote:

I'm keeping mine just in case I ever need to pass it.

a.

Peach

unread,
Jan 6, 2010, 3:05:00 PM1/6/10
to

The only college textbooks I kept were art history books....the rest
always were sold back, as it seemed like I needed the money most then.
(End of semester....)

Peach

Jefferson N. Glapski

unread,
Jan 6, 2010, 3:20:33 PM1/6/10
to

I wish I would have kept mine, as I could have used it.

Alas, I didn't, but the Mathematical Econ book was very useful in its stead.

StephenJ

unread,
Jan 6, 2010, 3:25:37 PM1/6/10
to
On Jan 6, 2:20 pm, "Jefferson N. Glapski"

yeah, i still have a math-econ book from around 1987. has been
referred to more than once over the years.

Jaybyrd

unread,
Jan 6, 2010, 4:03:41 PM1/6/10
to

I use it to find the rate of change of my taxes.

Dan Bretta

unread,
Jan 6, 2010, 4:23:30 PM1/6/10
to
The only books I kept were the history books. What I couldn't sell
back to the bookstore I threw in the trash.

Dan

Dennis J

unread,
Jan 6, 2010, 4:24:48 PM1/6/10
to
hey, sam <nos...@nospam.spam>'s been through solid matter, for crying
out loud. Who knows what's happened to his brain? Maybe it's scrambled
his molecules...

never took calc, I kept a couple textbooks though
the Backstage Handbook, the Little Brown handbook and a few Norton
Anthologies.
--

"the Democrat and Republican parties are destroying our country right now,
They're destroying our political process." -- Jesse Ventura

"Education is the progressive discovery of our own Ignorance" Will Durant

"One can't have a sense of perspective without a sense of Humor" -- Wayne Thiboux

"the Glass is not only half full, it has been delicious so far!!" -- ME

To reply, SCRAPE off the end bits.

Carl Banks

unread,
Jan 6, 2010, 4:36:59 PM1/6/10
to

I kept most of my Aerospace Engineering textbooks, and I actually use
quite a few of them in my job. The nice thing about modeling and
simulation (for that is what I do) is it has a hand in everything, so
you never know when you'll have to go look up some obscure
calculations. Sold back pretty much all my other textbooks, including
most math books. I still have my Calc 1 math book from eleventh
grade, though, and I haven't referred to it a single time since my
sophomore year.

On a related note, I got a Kindle for Christmas, which means there's
going to be a quite few happy low-budget readers soon, and which means
I'll be happy to lighten my load.

Carl Banks

The BorgMan

unread,
Jan 6, 2010, 4:55:45 PM1/6/10
to
sam <nos...@nospam.spam> wrote in
news:MPG.25aea348e...@news.supernews.com:

> So I'm taking a bunch of books to Goodwill. Most of
> the decisions are easy, but for some reason not this
> one.
>
> Question: Did your get rid of your old calc text book,
> or did you keep it? I still have mine.

I still have mine...

plus physics, VLSI design, Analysis of Transistor Based Circuits, and about
a dozen others...

xyzzy

unread,
Jan 6, 2010, 4:59:58 PM1/6/10
to

Kept mine thinking I'd need it, but I never did.

I had a pla who dropped out after freshman year, he took his Calculus
book out to a field and put 5 bullets into. Guess he didn't like that
class very much.

Unclaimed Mysteries

unread,
Jan 6, 2010, 5:08:52 PM1/6/10
to


I kept mine, just because I knew where specific things were in it.
They're all mostly the same, including the obfuscating integration by
parts jazz usually found in the middle chapters. "IT'S THE PRODUCT RULE,
DAMBIT! We covered that in chapter one."

When I started seeing my dad's texts showing up in thrift stores, I
went, heh. When I started seeing mine in the same places, I went, hey.

-cls

--
It Came From C. L. Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries.
http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net

What Does A Yellow Light Mean?
http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net/blog

McMahone

unread,
Jan 6, 2010, 7:33:17 PM1/6/10
to

I kept my computer books, but eventually they got damaged by mildew
(had them in an outside closet). The calc book was lousy so I sold it
back.

Marty

John Rogers

unread,
Jan 6, 2010, 11:53:41 PM1/6/10
to
Hey, sam <nos...@nospam.spam>... keep the change, you filthy animal.

>Question: Did your get rid of your old calc text book,
>or did you keep it?

I've had mine since 1982.

John M. Rogers
AU Class of 1985
The Al Del Greco of Atlanta

"And all the time - such is the tragi-comedy of our situation - we continue
to clamour for those very qualities we are rendering impossible. You can
hardly open a periodical without coming across the statement that what our
civilization needs is more "drive", or dynamism, or self-sacrifice, or
"creativity". In a sort of ghastly simplicity we remove the organ and demand
the function. We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and
enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst.
We castrate and bid the geldings to be fruitful."

(C.S. Lewis, 'The Abolition of Man')

mianderson

unread,
Jan 7, 2010, 12:14:16 AM1/7/10
to
On Jan 6, 2:50 pm, Ben Stewart <benjstew...@msn.com> wrote:
> On Jan 6, 1:41 pm, sam <nos...@nospam.spam> wrote:
>
> > So I'm taking a bunch of books to Goodwill. Most of
> > the decisions are easy, but for some reason not this
> > one.
>
> > Question: Did your get rid of your old calc text book,
> > or did you keep it? I still have mine. I will never,
> > ever use it, I'm sure. But something makes me want
> > to hang on to it, probably because I spent so much
> > time in it.
>
> > s
>
> Couldn't burn it fast enough.

me too.....

also, math education(at every level) has improved a good bit for upper
level students......

even when I was in high school(this was just when the advanced
calculators were becoming mainstream), too much of the emphasis was on
just integrating. And that was on the nationalized bc calc test I
took in high school. Now based on what my cousin says, they just use
the calculators for that stuff and test more on the conceptual
stuff.....

Hell I was a chem major so after I had enough calculus and math
classes to satisfy that **** I never wanted to look at it again(and
obviously in medicine would never need to know that nonsense), but I
really do think good math students now have a better grasp of things
than good math students did in previous generations.....

mianderson

unread,
Jan 7, 2010, 12:18:31 AM1/7/10
to
On Jan 6, 4:36 pm, Carl Banks <pavlovevide...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 6, 11:41 am, sam <nos...@nospam.spam> wrote:
>
> > So I'm taking a bunch of books to Goodwill. Most of
> > the decisions are easy, but for some reason not this
> > one.
>
> > Question: Did your get rid of your old calc text book,
> > or did you keep it? I still have mine. I will never,
> > ever use it, I'm sure. But something makes me want
> > to hang on to it, probably because I spent so much
> > time in it.
>
> I kept most of my Aerospace Engineering textbooks


for the life of me I can't understand why someone would do engineering
and actually work longterm as an engineer for a large firm. One of my
uncles who I didnt know that well and passed away 3 years ago was an
engineer. Graduated and got a masters in EE from a good engineering
school(purdue). Worked at a very large fortune 500 company in his
field for a long time, eventually retiring there.

He never made(in today's dollars) more than 135k. And he was
supposedly good at what he did and worked for a good company and had a
good pedigree. You can make far far more in other fields much
easier......it just doesnt make sense.

Jaybyrd

unread,
Jan 7, 2010, 8:44:04 AM1/7/10
to
On Jan 7, 12:14 am, mianderson <mianderso...@gmail.com> wrote:

>but I
> really do think good math students now have a better grasp of things
> than good math students did in previous generations.....
>

there are so many variables in this statement that it shows you're not
one of them.

Jaybyrd

unread,
Jan 7, 2010, 8:45:46 AM1/7/10
to
On Jan 7, 12:18 am, mianderson <mianderso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 6, 4:36 pm, Carl Banks <pavlovevide...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 6, 11:41 am, sam <nos...@nospam.spam> wrote:
>
> > > So I'm taking a bunch of books to Goodwill. Most of
> > > the decisions are easy, but for some reason not this
> > > one.
>
> > > Question: Did your get rid of your old calc text book,
> > > or did you keep it? I still have mine. I will never,
> > > ever use it, I'm sure. But something makes me want
> > > to hang on to it, probably because I spent so much
> > > time in it.
>
> > I kept most of my Aerospace Engineering textbooks
>
> for the life of me I can't understand why someone would do engineering
> and actually work longterm as an engineer for a large firm.  One of my
> uncles who I didnt know that well and passed away 3 years ago  was an
> engineer.  Graduated and got a masters in EE from a good engineering
> school(purdue).  Worked at a very large fortune 500 company in his
> field for a long time, eventually retiring there.
>
> He never made(in today's dollars) more than 135k.  And he was
> supposedly good at what he did and worked for a good company and had a
> good pedigree.  You can make far far more in other fields much
> easier......it just doesnt make sense.
>

easy money is the source of happiness.

Anarchist Ruffain of Notre Dame

unread,
Jan 7, 2010, 12:32:44 PM1/7/10
to

I still have most of my old books- calc, diff. eq., materials science,
fluids, manufacturing methods, robotics, controls, I think both of my
electrical class books, chem...

Occasionally, I've even pulled one out and used it either for work or
to win an argument.

--
TO

J. Hugh Sullivan

unread,
Jan 7, 2010, 1:04:58 PM1/7/10
to
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 05:44:04 -0800 (PST), Jaybyrd
<jayby...@yahoo.com> wrote:

At my age there are some things I don't grasp as often as I used to.
But, I take a diuretic so I grasp more. It does depend on the
variable.

Hugh

J. Hugh Sullivan

unread,
Jan 7, 2010, 1:53:37 PM1/7/10
to
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 09:32:44 -0800 (PST), Anarchist Ruffain of Notre
Dame <mrto...@ameritech.net> wrote:

>On Jan 6, 2:41=A0pm, sam <nos...@nospam.spam> wrote:
>> So I'm taking a bunch of books to Goodwill. Most of
>> the decisions are easy, but for some reason not this
>> one.
>>
>> Question: Did your get rid of your old calc text book,
>> or did you keep it? I still have mine. I will never,
>> ever use it, I'm sure. But something makes me want
>> to hang on to it, probably because I spent so much
>> time in it.
>
>I still have most of my old books- calc, diff. eq., materials science,
>fluids, manufacturing methods, robotics, controls, I think both of my
>electrical class books, chem...

I still have a lot of my fluids.

Hugh

Michael Press

unread,
Jan 7, 2010, 7:14:20 PM1/7/10
to
In article <MPG.25aea348e...@news.supernews.com>,
sam <nos...@nospam.spam> wrote:

Pass it on. If you want to revisit the subject
study real analysis.

--
Michael Press

Va Beach Hokie

unread,
Jan 7, 2010, 8:40:14 PM1/7/10
to
On Thu 07 Jan 2010 07:14:20p, Michael Press (rub...@pacbell.net)
wrote

If I think too hard about Real, I'll be curled up in the fetal
position in a corner muttering and drooling. The only class I took
which I understood not a single word from day one clear through to
the final exam. I regurgitated enough of my notes back on the exams
for a "C". Best C I ever got.

Excuse me, I'll be in the corner...

Michael Press

unread,
Jan 8, 2010, 1:21:59 AM1/8/10
to
In article
<87142b06-139f-4279...@z40g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:

Somebody goes out for football and is cut because he is
too slow, or too small, or not strong enough, or not
aggressive enough, or will not work. Everybody
understands. Do players complain "Why do I have to do
_that_?" or "You mean I have to put in time, and work?"
No.

But somebody enrolls in an engineering program, and the
university owes him an diploma. "Why do I have to learn
the differential and integral calculus? I'll never have
to use it. Look at those stupid example problems." The
answer, Chuckles, is that calculus is the pons asonorum
to hard science and engineering. If you cannot do
calculus, you do not make the cut. Do guys cut from the
baseball team burn their equipment? If you cannot do
calculus, you do not know why it is important. Some
people simply cannot do calculus, same as some cannot
run 40 yards in 6 second or get around on a fastball.
They should not be awarded a diploma saying that they can.

--
Michael Press

Carl Banks

unread,
Jan 8, 2010, 3:36:33 PM1/8/10
to
On Jan 7, 10:21 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Do guys cut from the
> baseball team burn their equipment?

Maybe not baseball equipment, but when I was in high school there was
a guy who was arrested after someone saw him throw a baby off a
bridge. (This was like the biggest story of the year quiet suburban
nowhere.)

Turned out the guy just chucked his bowling ball into the river out of
frustration for sucking at bowling.


Carl Banks

xyzzy

unread,
Jan 8, 2010, 4:34:35 PM1/8/10
to
On Jan 8, 1:21 am, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> In article
> <87142b06-139f-4279-9581-5da09b2b8...@z40g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,

The guy never said the university owed him a diploma. He dropped
out, decided college wasn't for him. Didn't demand a diploma. and
his hatred of calculus was one of the things that convinced him it
wasn't for him. You're reading too much into what I wrote.

Michael Press

unread,
Jan 8, 2010, 8:01:46 PM1/8/10
to
In article
<3a2ce34a-7527-44fa...@z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>,
xyzzy <xyzzy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The guy never said the university owed him a diploma. He dropped
> out, decided college wasn't for him. Didn't demand a diploma. and
> his hatred of calculus was one of the things that convinced him it
> wasn't for him. You're reading too much into what I wrote.

Okay. Too much into what you wrote.
The attitude that I describe does exist.

--
Michael Press

0 new messages