how Mexico treats illegal immigrants
stephenJ
".. in Mexico, illegal immigrants receive terrible treatment from
corrupt Mexican authorities, say people involved in the system.
And Mexico has a law that is no different from Arizona's that empowers
local police to check the immigration documents of people suspected of
not being in the country legally.
"There (in the United States), they'll deport you," Hector V�zquez, an
illegal immigrant from Honduras, said as he rested in a makeshift camp
with other migrants under a highway bridge in Tultitl�n. "In Mexico
they'll probably let you go, but they'll beat you up and steal
everything you've got first."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2010-05-25-mexico-migrants_N.htm
--
when you die it's the same as if everybody else did too.
- C. McCarthy
Chris Bellomy
> Wasn't the Mehico President just chastising us about the Arizona law? LOL:
>
> ".. in Mexico, illegal immigrants receive terrible treatment from
> corrupt Mexican authorities, say people involved in the system.
They probably do in Cuba, too, but we take their refugees.
It's such a simple issue... if you don't want a flood of
Mexicans crossing the border, quit destroying their economy
with idiotic free trade agreements.
cb
Tom Enright
Pee-yoooo....
-Tom Enright
> cb
The Ghost Of Edward M. Kennedy
I think the government should subsidize the ridiculously inefficient
use of ethanol from corn to raise the price of tortillas in Mexico.
That's an unfree trade agreement I can live with. It fucks both the
environment and wetbacks. Libertarian paradise, man!
--Tedward
stephenJ
Right, because we never had a flood of mexicans before 1994. Oh wait a
minute ....
--
"if federal judges have the final word over its meaning,
the Constitution would be a mere thing of wax in the hands
of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form
they please".
- Thomas Jefferson
stephenJ
DemocRATS in Congress cheered the mexico president when he denounced the
AZ law as a 'violation of human rights', LOL.
--
"the purpose of the Russian campaign is to reduce the Slavic
population by 30 million".
- Heinrich Himmler, 1941
Chris Bellomy
> Chris Bellomy wrote:
>> stephenJ wrote, On 5/26/10 11:25 AM:
>>> Wasn't the Mehico President just chastising us about the Arizona law?
>>> LOL:
>>>
>>> ".. in Mexico, illegal immigrants receive terrible treatment from
>>> corrupt Mexican authorities, say people involved in the system.
>>
>> They probably do in Cuba, too, but we take their refugees.
>>
>> It's such a simple issue... if you don't want a flood of
>> Mexicans crossing the border, quit destroying their economy
>> with idiotic free trade agreements.
>
> Right, because we never had a flood of mexicans before 1994. Oh wait a
> minute ....
The numbers don't lie, pla.
GregoryD
(1) Who forced Mexico to sign an idiotic free trade agreement?
(2) Please cite a lack of Mexican immigration before said free trade
agreements.
GregoryD
stephenJ
Illegal immigration from Mexcico has been a significant political issue
my whole life. What numbers refute that?
--
the terror of the unforeseen is what the science of history hides,
turning a disaster into an epic.
- philip roth
Antonio Veranos
> >> Right, because we never had a flood of mexicans before 1994. Oh wait a
> >> minute ....
> >
> > The numbers don't lie, pla.
>
> Illegal immigration from Mexcico has been a significant political issue
> my whole life. What numbers refute that?
The GAO said that there were 3.5M in 1990 and about 12M in 2009. That's
a pretty sharp increase. Anyway, as stated before there is only one end
solution to this, and it's a matter of time: annexation.
--
A. Veranos
What color does a smurf go when you choke it?
Chris Bellomy
> Chris Bellomy wrote:
>> stephenJ wrote, On 5/26/10 2:26 PM:
>>> Chris Bellomy wrote:
>>>> stephenJ wrote, On 5/26/10 11:25 AM:
>>>>> Wasn't the Mehico President just chastising us about the Arizona law?
>>>>> LOL:
>>>>>
>>>>> ".. in Mexico, illegal immigrants receive terrible treatment from
>>>>> corrupt Mexican authorities, say people involved in the system.
>>>>
>>>> They probably do in Cuba, too, but we take their refugees.
>>>>
>>>> It's such a simple issue... if you don't want a flood of
>>>> Mexicans crossing the border, quit destroying their economy
>>>> with idiotic free trade agreements.
>>>
>>> Right, because we never had a flood of mexicans before 1994. Oh wait a
>>> minute ....
>>
>> The numbers don't lie, pla.
>
> Illegal immigration from Mexcico has been a significant political issue
> my whole life.
Lots of stupid things have been significant political issues.
But immigration from Mexico skyrocketed in the aftermath of
NAFTA. Seems that the Mexican family farmer couldn't compete
with subsidized American agricultural giants.
Thanks, Bill.
cb
Chris Bellomy
> On Wed, 26 May 2010 16:52:26 -0500, stephenJ wrote...
>
>>>> Right, because we never had a flood of mexicans before 1994. Oh wait a
>>>> minute ....
>>>
>>> The numbers don't lie, pla.
>>
>> Illegal immigration from Mexcico has been a significant political issue
>> my whole life. What numbers refute that?
>
> The GAO said that there were 3.5M in 1990 and about 12M in 2009. That's
> a pretty sharp increase. Anyway, as stated before there is only one end
> solution to this, and it's a matter of time: annexation.
Ah, dude, I don't want to learn the Mexican national anthem!
cb
mianderson
> On Wed, 26 May 2010 16:52:26 -0500, stephenJ wrote...
> > >> Right, because we never had a flood of mexicans before 1994. Oh wait a
> > >> minute ....
>
> > > The numbers don't lie, pla.
>
> > Illegal immigration from Mexcico has been a significant political issue
> > my whole life. What numbers refute that?
>
> The GAO said that there were 3.5M in 1990 and about 12M in 2009
well part of that(and I think the 3.5 is a lowball number anyways) is
that a lot of illegals become legal just before that when reagan gave
them amnesty........
for example, if you run up 30k in credit card debt and 15k gets
forgiven, and then you quickly build it up again to 30k, it's not like
you didn't spend more money you didn't have......the clock just
partially reset....
. That's
> a pretty sharp increase. Anyway, as stated before there is only one end
> solution to this, and it's a matter of time: annexation.
gosh no
The Ghost Of Edward M. Kennedy
>>>>>> Wasn't the Mehico President just chastising us about the Arizona law?
>>>>>> LOL:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ".. in Mexico, illegal immigrants receive terrible treatment from
>>>>>> corrupt Mexican authorities, say people involved in the system.
>>>>>
>>>>> They probably do in Cuba, too, but we take their refugees.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's such a simple issue... if you don't want a flood of
>>>>> Mexicans crossing the border, quit destroying their economy
>>>>> with idiotic free trade agreements.
>>>>
>>>> Right, because we never had a flood of mexicans before 1994. Oh wait a
>>>> minute ....
>>>
>>> The numbers don't lie, pla.
>>
>> Illegal immigration from Mexcico has been a significant political issue
>> my whole life.
>
> Lots of stupid things have been significant political issues.
> But immigration from Mexico skyrocketed in the aftermath of
> NAFTA. Seems that the Mexican family farmer couldn't compete
> with subsidized American agricultural giants.
Then how come the price of tortillas jumped 500% between
1993 and 2000?
--Tedward
deem...@aol.com
> Wasn't the Mehico President just chastising us about the Arizona law? LOL:
>
> ".. in Mexico, illegal immigrants receive terrible treatment from
> corrupt Mexican authorities, say people involved in the system.
>
> And Mexico has a law that is no different from Arizona's that empowers
> local police to check the immigration documents of people suspected of
> not being in the country legally.
>
> illegal immigrant from Honduras, said as he rested in a makeshift camp
> they'll probably let you go, but they'll beat you up and steal
> everything you've got first."
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2010-05-25-mexico-migrants_N.htm
Well, good golly, I'm hoping we can be a bit better than they are!
John Rogers
you filthy animal.
>On Wed, 26 May 2010 16:52:26 -0500, stephenJ wrote...
>
>> >> Right, because we never had a flood of mexicans before 1994. Oh wait a
>> >> minute ....
>> >
>> > The numbers don't lie, pla.
>>
>> Illegal immigration from Mexcico has been a significant political issue
>> my whole life. What numbers refute that?
>
>The GAO said that there were 3.5M in 1990 and about 12M in 2009. That's
>a pretty sharp increase. Anyway, as stated before there is only one end
>solution to this, and it's a matter of time: annexation.
The future state of Chihuahua can expect great profits from their tiny
dog industry with their fellow states.
John M. Rogers
AU Class of 1985
The Al Del Greco of Atlanta
"The grandchild, far from being incidental, is decisive. Civilization persists when
there is a widespread sense of an ethical obligation on the part of the present
generation for the well-being of the third generation - their own grandchildren. A
society where this feeling is not widespread may last as a civilization for some
time - indeed, for one or two generations it might thrive spectacularly. But
inevitably, a society acknowledging no transgenerational commitment to the future
will decay and decline from within."
(Lee Harris, "The Future of Tradition")
GregoryD
We are. Arizona's law IS the US law for all intents and purposes, and
it's WAY better than Mexico's.
GregoryD
deem...@aol.com
I know that...Stevie doesn't seem to.
stephenJ
> On Wed, 26 May 2010 16:52:26 -0500, stephenJ wrote...
>
>>>> Right, because we never had a flood of mexicans before 1994. Oh wait a
>>>> minute ....
>>> The numbers don't lie, pla.
>> Illegal immigration from Mexcico has been a significant political issue
>> my whole life. What numbers refute that?
>
> The GAO said that there were 3.5M in 1990 and about 12M in 2009. That's
> a pretty sharp increase. Anyway, as stated before there is only one end
> solution to this, and it's a matter of time: annexation.
these charts all show a decisive uptick around 1970. Yes, the rise
becomes even more dramatic around 1990, but that's before NAFTA went
into effect:
http://pewhispanic.org/files/factsheets/47.pdf
stephenJ
I'm always happy to pin blame on bill, but these charts don't seem to
bear that out:
http://pewhispanic.org/files/factsheets/47.pdf
--
people invoke Natural Law when they wish to get
their way without having to argue for it.
- Jeremy Bentham
stephenJ
What does that have to do with the abject hypocrisy of the mexico
president's whining about the AZ law, or the abject idiocy of democRAT
congressmen and obama sucking up to him and cheering him while he was
doing it?
--
the one great principle of the Law is to make business for itself.
viewed in this light, it becomes a coherent scheme, and not the
monstrous maze the laity are apt to think it. Let them but once
but clearly perceive that its one grand principle is to make
business for itself at their expense, and surely they will
cease to grumble.
- Dickens, "Bleak House"
J. Hugh Sullivan
wrote:
Their economy was destroyed about the time of the Alamo.
Hugh
The Ghost Of Edward M. Kennedy
"stephenJ" <sja...@pop.com> wrote in message
news:d7mLn.10938$%u7....@newsfe14.iad...
So it's been fairly linear since about 1980, indicating a constant rate
of growth independent of NAFTA in the early 1990's.
--Tedward
Chris Bellomy
> Antonio Veranos wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 May 2010 16:52:26 -0500, stephenJ wrote...
>>
>>>>> Right, because we never had a flood of mexicans before 1994. Oh wait a
>>>>> minute ....
>>>> The numbers don't lie, pla.
>>> Illegal immigration from Mexcico has been a significant political
>>> issue my whole life. What numbers refute that?
>>
>> The GAO said that there were 3.5M in 1990 and about 12M in 2009.
>> That's a pretty sharp increase. Anyway, as stated before there is only
>> one end solution to this, and it's a matter of time: annexation.
>
> these charts all show a decisive uptick around 1970. Yes, the rise
> becomes even more dramatic around 1990, but that's before NAFTA went
> into effect:
>
> http://pewhispanic.org/files/factsheets/47.pdf
Hmm. On the one hand, pewhispanic.org.
On the other, the General Accounting Office.
Hmmm.
cb
stephenJ
clearly, pew-hispanic.
--
.. the profiteers are a consequence not
a cause of rising prices.
- JM Keynes
stephenJ
yes, NAFTA seems to have little to do with it.
--
Even if U.S. atom bombs were dropped on China and blasted
a hole in the earth or blew it to pieces, this might be
a big thing for the solar system, but it would still be
an insignificant matter as far as the universe as a whole
is concerned.
- Mao Tse Tung, 1958
Huck Kennedy
> deemsb...@aol.com wrote:
> > On May 26, 12:25 pm, stephenJ <sjar...@pop.com> wrote:
> >> Wasn't the Mehico President just chastising us about the Arizona law? LOL:
>
> >> ".. in Mexico, illegal immigrants receive terrible treatment from
> >> corrupt Mexican authorities, say people involved in the system.
>
> >> And Mexico has a law that is no different from Arizona's that empowers
> >> local police to check the immigration documents of people suspected of
> >> not being in the country legally.
>
> >> "There (in the United States), they'll deport you," Hector Vázquez, an
> >> illegal immigrant from Honduras, said as he rested in a makeshift camp
> >> with other migrants under a highway bridge in Tultitlán. "In Mexico
> >> they'll probably let you go, but they'll beat you up and steal
> >> everything you've got first."
>
> >>http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2010-05-25-mexico-migrants_N.htm
>
> > Well, good golly, I'm hoping we can be a bit better than they are!
That much is certainly true. But a bit beside the point being
made.
> What does that have to do with the abject hypocrisy of the mexico
> president's whining about the AZ law, or the abject idiocy of democRAT
> congressmen and obama sucking up to him and cheering him while he was
> doing it?
I have to agree with you on that one (other than your usual
childish "democRAT" games). How can the Mexican president stand there
with a straight face calling it a "human rights violation" when in his
country they treat illegal aliens far worse?
The illegals coming up from Honduras and other poor parts of
Central America all say that crossing the border into the US is
relative cake, the hard part is trying to get through Mexico to get
there.
Huck
shiite
By the time my grandkids bury my dead carcass, the U.S will have
completely surrendered it's sovereignty to the New World Order. The
Meskins who've come here will be just as screwed as their amigos in
Chihauhua.
Chris Bellomy
And the black helicopters. Don't forget the black helicopters.
cb
Jim Brown
wrote:
> "Chris Bellomy" <ten.wohsdoog@sirhc> wrote
>
> >> Wasn't the Mehico President just chastising us about the Arizona law?
> >> LOL:
>
> >> ".. in Mexico, illegal immigrants receive terrible treatment from
> >> corrupt Mexican authorities, say people involved in the system.
>
>
> > It's such a simple issue... if you don't want a flood of
> > Mexicans crossing the border, quit destroying their economy
> > with idiotic free trade agreements.
>
> use of ethanol from corn to raise the price of tortillas in Mexico.
> That's an unfree trade agreement I can live with. It fucks both the
> environment and wetbacks. Libertarian paradise, man!
False.
shiite
They'll be painted in the colors of the rainbow.