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Torrey M. Spears

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Aug 23, 2008, 5:40:54 PM8/23/08
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Analysis: Biden pick shows lack of confidence

Aug 23, 5:02 AM (ET)

By RON FOURNIER

DENVER (AP) - The candidate of change went with the status quo.

In picking Sen. Joe Biden to be his running mate, Barack Obama sought
to shore up his weakness - inexperience in office and on foreign
policy - rather than underscore his strength as a new-generation
candidate defying political conventions.

He picked a 35-year veteran of the Senate - the ultimate insider -
rather than a candidate from outside Washington, such as Govs. Tim
Kaine of Virginia or Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas; or from outside his
party, such as Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska; or from outside the
mostly white male club of vice presidential candidates. Hillary Rodham
Clinton didn't even make his short list.

The picks say something profound about Obama: For all his self-
confidence, the 47-year-old Illinois senator worried that he couldn't
beat Republican John McCain without help from a seasoned politician
willing to attack. The Biden selection is the next logistical step in
an Obama campaign that has become more negative - a strategic decision
that may be necessary but threatens to run counter to his image.

Democratic strategists, fretting over polls that showed McCain erasing
Obama's lead this summer, welcomed the move. They, too, worried that
Obama needed a more conventional - read: tougher - approach to McCain.

"You've got to hand it to the candidate and the campaign. They have a
great sense of timing and tone and appropriateness. Six months ago,
people said he wasn't tough enough on Hillary Clinton - he was being
too passive - but he got it right at the right time," said Democratic
strategist Jim Jordan. "He'll get it right again."

Indeed, Obama has begun to aggressively counter McCain's criticism
with negative television ads and sharp retorts from the campaign
trail.

A senior Obama adviser, speaking on condition of anonymity, said his
boss has expressed impatience with what he calls a "reverence" inside
his campaign for his message of change and new politics. In other
words, Obama is willing - even eager - to risk what got him this far
if it gets him to the White House.

Biden brings a lot to the table. An expert on national security, the
Delaware senator voted in 2002 to authorize military intervention in
Iraq but has since become a vocal critic of the conflict. He won
praise for a plan for peace in Iraq that would divide the country
along ethnic lines.

Chief sponsor of a sweeping anti-crime bill that passed in 1994, Biden
could help inoculate Obama from GOP criticism that he's soft on crime
- a charge his campaign fears will drive a wedge between white voters
and the first black candidate with a serious shot at the White House.

So the question is whether Biden's depth counters Obama's inexperience
- or highlights it?

After all, Biden is anything but a change agent, having been in office
longer than half of all Americans have been alive. Longer than McCain.

And he talks too much.

On the same day he announced his second bid for the presidency, Biden
found himself explaining why he had described Obama as "clean."

And there's the 2007 ABC interview in which Biden said he would stand
by an earlier statement that Obama was not ready to serve as
president.

It seems Obama is worried that some voters are starting to agree.

Chris Bellomy

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Aug 23, 2008, 6:43:37 PM8/23/08
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Your librul media strikes again.

redey...@gmail.com

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Aug 25, 2008, 9:06:10 AM8/25/08
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Wow, the Republican Party is issuing talking points to the AP now? I
thought it was only Fox that got them.

CrossfaceWalls

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Aug 25, 2008, 9:21:55 AM8/25/08
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On Aug 23, 5:40 pm, "Torrey M. Spears" <nwophoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080823/D92NT5P80.html
>
> Analysis: Biden pick shows lack of confidence
>
> Aug 23, 5:02 AM (ET)
>
> By RON FOURNIER

The same Ron Fournier who told Karl Rove to "Keep up the fight?"

CrossfaceWalls = Hmmm.......

alic...@yahoo.com

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Aug 25, 2008, 9:27:02 AM8/25/08
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On Aug 23, 6:43 pm, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog@sirhc> wrote:

> Your librul media strikes again.

http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2008/08/nutroots-brownshirts-threaten-ap.html

Yep, he may SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES of going against the MSM's
directives.

-Tom Enright

Unclaimed Mysteries

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Aug 25, 2008, 10:18:15 AM8/25/08
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He *IS* the MSM, isn't he?

--
It Came From Corry Lee Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries.
http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net

alic...@yahoo.com

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Aug 25, 2008, 10:57:23 AM8/25/08
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On Aug 25, 10:18 am, Unclaimed Mysteries
<theletter_k_andthenumeral_4_...@unclaimedmysteries.net> wrote:

> alicam...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Aug 23, 6:43 pm, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog@sirhc> wrote:
>
> >> Your librul media strikes again.
>
> >http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2008/08/nutroots-brownshirts-th...

>
> > Yep, he may SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES of going against the MSM's
> > directives.

> He *IS* the MSM, isn't he?

Burn the heretic.

-Tom Enright

Unclaimed Mysteries

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Aug 25, 2008, 11:19:51 AM8/25/08
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alic...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Aug 25, 10:18 am, Unclaimed Mysteries
> <theletter_k_andthenumeral_4_...@unclaimedmysteries.net> wrote:
>> alicam...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On Aug 23, 6:43 pm, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog@sirhc> wrote:
>>>> Your librul media strikes again.
>>> http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2008/08/nutroots-brownshirts-th...
>>> Yep, he may SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES of going against the MSM's
>>> directives.
>
>> He *IS* the MSM, isn't he?
>
> Burn the heretic.
>

That's pretty harsh. Just singe him.

-cls

lein

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Aug 25, 2008, 2:07:32 PM8/25/08
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On Aug 23, 3:43 pm, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog@sirhc> wrote:
> Your librul media strikes again.

No, not when it's labeled as analysis.

John Rogers

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Aug 25, 2008, 8:10:09 PM8/25/08
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You're not like the others, Unclaimed Mysteries
<theletter_k_and...@unclaimedmysteries.net>... you like
the same things I do! Wax paper! Boiled football leather! Dog breath!

>alic...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Aug 23, 6:43 pm, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog@sirhc> wrote:
>>
>>> Your librul media strikes again.
>>
>> http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2008/08/nutroots-brownshirts-threaten-ap.html
>>
>> Yep, he may SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES of going against the MSM's
>> directives.
>
>He *IS* the MSM, isn't he?

Wow, Fournier is the MSM Czar?

When I get that job, you librul journalists are gonna pay.

(Think "waterboarding".)


John Rogers
AU Class of 1985
The Al Del Greco of Atlanta

"I mean, you’ve got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate
and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a story-book, man,"
(Senator Joseph Biden)

Chris Bellomy

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Aug 25, 2008, 10:42:17 PM8/25/08
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John Rogers wrote, On 8/25/08 7:10 PM:

> You're not like the others, Unclaimed Mysteries
> <theletter_k_and...@unclaimedmysteries.net>... you like
> the same things I do! Wax paper! Boiled football leather! Dog breath!
>
>> alic...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On Aug 23, 6:43 pm, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog@sirhc> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Your librul media strikes again.
>>> http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2008/08/nutroots-brownshirts-threaten-ap.html
>>>
>>> Yep, he may SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES of going against the MSM's
>>> directives.
>> He *IS* the MSM, isn't he?
>
> Wow, Fournier is the MSM Czar?

He runs the Washington bureau of the AP. That's about as
MSM as it gets.

cb

John Rogers

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Aug 25, 2008, 11:55:19 PM8/25/08
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You're not like the others, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog@sirhc>... you

like the same things I do! Wax paper! Boiled football leather! Dog
breath!

>John Rogers wrote, On 8/25/08 7:10 PM:
>> You're not like the others, Unclaimed Mysteries
>> <theletter_k_and...@unclaimedmysteries.net>... you like
>> the same things I do! Wax paper! Boiled football leather! Dog breath!
>>
>>> alic...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> On Aug 23, 6:43 pm, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog@sirhc> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Your librul media strikes again.
>>>> http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2008/08/nutroots-brownshirts-threaten-ap.html
>>>>
>>>> Yep, he may SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES of going against the MSM's
>>>> directives.
>>> He *IS* the MSM, isn't he?
>>
>> Wow, Fournier is the MSM Czar?
>
>He runs the Washington bureau of the AP. That's about as
>MSM as it gets.

I did not know that the Washington bureau of the AP controlled all
sources of media in this country and worldwide.

Huh.

Chris Bellomy

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Aug 26, 2008, 12:21:55 AM8/26/08
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John Rogers wrote, On 8/25/08 10:55 PM:

> You're not like the others, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog@sirhc>... you
> like the same things I do! Wax paper! Boiled football leather! Dog
> breath!
>
>> John Rogers wrote, On 8/25/08 7:10 PM:
>>> You're not like the others, Unclaimed Mysteries
>>> <theletter_k_and...@unclaimedmysteries.net>... you like
>>> the same things I do! Wax paper! Boiled football leather! Dog breath!
>>>
>>>> alic...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 23, 6:43 pm, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog@sirhc> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Your librul media strikes again.
>>>>> http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2008/08/nutroots-brownshirts-threaten-ap.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, he may SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES of going against the MSM's
>>>>> directives.
>>>> He *IS* the MSM, isn't he?
>>> Wow, Fournier is the MSM Czar?
>> He runs the Washington bureau of the AP. That's about as
>> MSM as it gets.
>
> I did not know that the Washington bureau of the AP controlled all
> sources of media in this country and worldwide.

Are you familiar with the term "prototype?"

Nah, probably not, it's kinda big.

cb

John Rogers

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Aug 26, 2008, 12:26:57 AM8/26/08
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Do to know... it's a single-celled creature.

Chris Bellomy

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Aug 26, 2008, 12:29:56 AM8/26/08
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John Rogers wrote, On 8/25/08 11:26 PM:

OK, good. That's Ron Fournier.

I bet you're feeling pretty dumn right now.

cb

Homer Jones

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Aug 26, 2008, 9:21:13 AM8/26/08
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On Aug 23, 5:40 pm, "Torrey M. Spears" <nwophoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080823/D92NT5P80.html
>
> Analysis: Biden pick shows lack of confidence

On the national stage Biden has the stink of defeat all over him.
This was a lazy pick.

John Rogers

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Aug 26, 2008, 9:26:50 PM8/26/08
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Why should I feel dumn... I *nailed* it.

Hooray!

Chris Bellomy

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Aug 26, 2008, 9:53:30 PM8/26/08
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John Rogers wrote, On 8/26/08 8:26 PM:

Don't you feel dumn knowing you made the effort?

cb
"i *nailed* it and all i got this lousy slice of google"

John Rogers

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Aug 26, 2008, 10:31:15 PM8/26/08
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This post will go down in all-time history on the internets.

I am immortal.

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