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R. Jayakrishnan  
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 More options Oct 11 1994, 9:23 am
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From: jayak...@translab.its.uci.edu (R. Jayakrishnan)
Date: 11 Oct 1994 12:17:59 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 11 1994 8:17 am
Subject: Re: SWC vs Big 8
  cjohn mace <cjm...@amoco.com> wrote:

>Sorry folx, you can blame the quote "SWC has winning record vs Big 8" on
>me.  I erroneously posted this last Sunday.  I miscounted and had the
>SWC up 6-5 when in reality it is the reverse.

>Also a note of interest.  Someone posted an article showing that the Big
>8 had only lost 6 non-conference games, 5 of the vs the SWC.  Who woulda
>thunk it?

 Well, I too posted that SWC had a winning record against the big-8, and
 I did that after I saw it in the local fishwrap (as Jim Rome calls it),
 Los Angeles Times...    Wonder why this has been brought up by all kinds of
 different sources..   I guess there are closet SWC-supporters everywhere,
 who don't mind spreading even wrong information  :-)

 BTW, the channel-4 sports anchor here was going on and on and on about the
 Stonie Clark, Robert Reed stop at the end of the OU-TX game, and how his
 heart almost stopped etc...  Turns out that he is a Texas-Austin graduate.
 Never knew that.  He looked so happy to get a chance to report on a big
 Texas win, something he has not been able to do much lately..

 Jay (from California)


 
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Kevin Martin Leuthold  
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 More options Oct 11 1994, 10:00 am
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From: leuth...@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Kevin Martin Leuthold)
Date: 11 Oct 94 12:57:35 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 11 1994 8:57 am
Subject: Re: SWC vs Big 8

cjm...@amoco.com (cjohn mace) writes:
>Sorry folx, you can blame the quote "SWC has winning record vs Big 8" on
>me.  I erroneously posted this last Sunday.  I miscounted and had the
>SWC up 6-5 when in reality it is the reverse.
>Either way, it is still respectable and a huge improvement over the last
>few years.
>Also a note of interest.  Someone posted an article showing that the Big
>8 had only lost 6 non-conference games, 5 of the vs the SWC.  Who woulda
>thunk it?
>cmuck

IThis must be a mistake.  I looked up some Big 8teams and there are at
lleast 6 nonconference losses, but I could only find 2 to the SWC.  What
are the others?  Either the Big 8 has lost more than 6 or only 2 to the
SWC.

Big 8 losses:
Missouri: to Tulsa, Illinois, West Virginia
Iowa State: to Iowa, Rice
Oklahoma: to Texas
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Joe Hartman  
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 More options Oct 11 1994, 10:19 am
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From: joe@sailsun (Joe Hartman)
Date: 11 Oct 1994 13:06:42 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 11 1994 9:06 am
Subject: Re: SWC vs Big 8
Kevin Martin Leuthold (leuth...@symcom.math.uiuc.edu) wrote:

> IThis must be a mistake.  I looked up some Big 8teams and there are at
> lleast 6 nonconference losses, but I could only find 2 to the SWC.  What
> are the others?  Either the Big 8 has lost more than 6 or only 2 to the
> SWC.
> Big 8 losses:
> Missouri: to Tulsa, Illinois, West Virginia
> Iowa State: to Iowa, Rice
> Oklahoma: to Texas
> --

Oklahoma also has lost to A&M

Joe


 
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Kent Nickell  
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 More options Oct 11 1994, 11:42 am
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From: knick...@bnr.ca (Kent Nickell)
Date: 11 Oct 1994 09:25:28 -0500
Local: Tues, Oct 11 1994 10:25 am
Subject: Re: SWC vs Big 8

In article <leuthold.781882988@symcom>, leuth...@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Kevin Martin Leuthold) writes:

Texas over Oklahoma
Rice over Iowa State
TCU over Kansas
Texas A&M over Oklahoma
Baylor over Oklahoma State

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Paul L Pearson  
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 More options Oct 11 1994, 12:05 pm
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From: ram...@iastate.edu (Paul L Pearson)
Date: 11 Oct 94 14:32:14 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 11 1994 10:32 am
Subject: Re: SWC vs Big 8
In <leuthold.781880255@symcom> leuth...@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Kevin Martin Leuthold) writes:

Don't sell Iowa State short...we also lost to W. Michigan, and  UNI out of
conference.  OU lost to A$M, if you recall.  Okie State lost to Baylor.

Paul L. Pearson, "Don't huck with the Fuskers!"

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cjohn mace  
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 More options Oct 11 1994, 3:53 pm
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From: cjm...@amoco.com (cjohn mace)
Date: 11 Oct 1994 05:02:25 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 11 1994 1:02 am
Subject: SWC vs Big 8

Sorry folx, you can blame the quote "SWC has winning record vs Big 8" on
me.  I erroneously posted this last Sunday.  I miscounted and had the
SWC up 6-5 when in reality it is the reverse.

Either way, it is still respectable and a huge improvement over the last
few years.

Also a note of interest.  Someone posted an article showing that the Big
8 had only lost 6 non-conference games, 5 of the vs the SWC.  Who woulda
thunk it?

cmuck


 
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Kevin Martin Leuthold  
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 More options Oct 11 1994, 9:24 pm
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From: leuth...@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Kevin Martin Leuthold)
Date: 11 Oct 94 13:43:08 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 11 1994 9:43 am
Subject: Re: SWC vs Big 8

joe@sailsun (Joe Hartman) writes:
>Kevin Martin Leuthold (leuth...@symcom.math.uiuc.edu) wrote:
>> IThis must be a mistake.  I looked up some Big 8teams and there are at
>> lleast 6 nonconference losses, but I could only find 2 to the SWC.  What
>> are the others?  Either the Big 8 has lost more than 6 or only 2 to the
>> SWC.
>> Big 8 losses:
>> Missouri: to Tulsa, Illinois, West Virginia
>> Iowa State: to Iowa, Rice
>> Oklahoma: to Texas
>> --
>Oklahoma also has lost to A&M

I think I thought of a couple others.  Didn't Iowa State
lose to Northern Iowa and some MAC team like Central Michigan?
And Oklahoma State must have lost at least one, no?
So the Big 8 has lost at least 9 nonconference games.
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Eric T. Moore  
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 More options Oct 11 1994, 10:21 pm
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From: mo...@econ.unt.edu (Eric T. Moore)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 01:52:38 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 11 1994 9:52 pm
Subject: Re: SWC vs Big 8

m...@ksu.ksu.edu (Michael Cook) writes:
>KU defeated Houston, lost to TCU  1-1
>NU defeated Texas Tech            1-0
>MU defeated Houston               1-0
>CU defeated Texas                 1-0
>OSU lost to Baylor                0-1
>KSU defeated Rice                 1-0
>ISU lost to Rice                  0-1
>OU defeated Texas Tech,           1-2
>   lost to TAMU and Texas
>-------------------------------------
>Big Eight 6, SWC 5

The interesting note is that the three best teams of the Big 4 from the SWC
are 3-1 vs the Big 8.

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Michael Cook  
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 More options Oct 11 1994, 11:52 pm
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From: m...@ksu.ksu.edu (Michael Cook)
Date: 11 Oct 1994 10:35:29 -0500
Local: Tues, Oct 11 1994 11:35 am
Subject: Re: SWC vs Big 8
leuth...@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Kevin Martin Leuthold) writes:

>joe@sailsun (Joe Hartman) writes:
>>Kevin Martin Leuthold (leuth...@symcom.math.uiuc.edu) wrote:
>>> Big 8 losses:
>>> Missouri: to Tulsa, Illinois, West Virginia
>>> Iowa State: to Iowa, Rice
>>> Oklahoma: to Texas
>>> --
>>Oklahoma also has lost to A&M
>I think I thought of a couple others.  Didn't Iowa State
>lose to Northern Iowa and some MAC team like Central Michigan?
>And Oklahoma State must have lost at least one, no?
>So the Big 8 has lost at least 9 nonconference games.

I think the focus is Big 8 losses against SWC teams.  Others were
listed, but here's the tally:

KU defeated Houston, lost to TCU  1-1
NU defeated Texas Tech            1-0
MU defeated Houston               1-0
CU defeated Texas                 1-0
OSU lost to Baylor                0-1
KSU defeated Rice                 1-0
ISU lost to Rice                  0-1
OU defeated Texas Tech,           1-2
   lost to TAMU and Texas
-------------------------------------
Big Eight 6, SWC 5

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Michael Cook  
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 More options Oct 12 1994, 1:29 am
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From: m...@ksu.ksu.edu (Michael Cook)
Date: 11 Oct 1994 22:36:51 -0500
Local: Tues, Oct 11 1994 11:36 pm
Subject: Re: SWC vs Big 8
mo...@econ.unt.edu (Eric T. Moore) writes:

>The interesting note is that the three best teams of the Big 4 from the SWC
>are 3-1 vs the Big 8.

But did they win any from the three best teams in the Big 8?

(I guess we'll have to wait and see)
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Bri K.  
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 More options Oct 13 1994, 7:59 am
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From: kenn...@benji.Colorado.EDU (Bri K.)
Date: 12 Oct 1994 04:24:48 GMT
Local: Wed, Oct 12 1994 12:24 am
Subject: Re: SWC vs Big 8
In article <moore.744.2E9B4...@econ.unt.edu>,
Eric T. Moore <mo...@econ.unt.edu> wrote:

Another interesting note is that those 3 wins were
against the 2 teams that will be making up the rest of
southern division of the Big 12.

(this is of course assuming that I haven't totally buggered up
the presumed organization of the new conference, which would come
as no surprise to me, since I've been in a lab for the last few years)

Now, what's your point?


 
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Dustin Christmann  
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 More options Oct 13 1994, 9:08 pm
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From: dust...@bnr.ca (Dustin Christmann)
Date: 13 Oct 1994 14:54:23 -0500
Local: Thurs, Oct 13 1994 3:54 pm
Subject: Re: SWC vs Big 8

In article <37flkj$...@nbc.ksu.ksu.edu>, Michael Cook <m...@ksu.ksu.edu> wrote:
>mo...@econ.unt.edu (Eric T. Moore) writes:

>>The interesting note is that the three best teams of the Big 4 from the SWC
>>are 3-1 vs the Big 8.

>But did they win any from the three best teams in the Big 8?

>(I guess we'll have to wait and see)
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[Looks like bait, smells like bait... time for a taste test...]

Well, let's see here.  UT, OPSUT, and Baylor are 2-1 against the three best
teams in the Big 8, which are, of course, Nebraska, Colorado, and oklahoma.

Expecting flaming wildcats incoming...

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Jason White  
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 More options Oct 13 1994, 9:46 pm
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From: jwwh...@tucson.princeton.edu (Jason White)
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 18:06:19 GMT
Local: Tues, Oct 11 1994 2:06 pm
Subject: Re: SWC vs Big 8

MIZZOU RULES!!!

 
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Michael Cook  
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 More options Oct 15 1994, 12:33 am
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From: m...@ksu.ksu.edu (Michael Cook)
Date: 13 Oct 1994 15:47:20 -0500
Local: Thurs, Oct 13 1994 4:47 pm
Subject: Re: SWC vs Big 8

dust...@bnr.ca (Dustin Christmann) writes:
>[Looks like bait, smells like bait... time for a taste test...]
>Well, let's see here.  UT, OPSUT, and Baylor are 2-1 against the three best
>teams in the Big 8, which are, of course, Nebraska, Colorado, and oklahoma.
>Expecting flaming wildcats incoming...

GASP! CHOKE! WHEEZE!  :)

I won't argue who's third-best.  Nebraska and OU will have to fight
that one out.  :)

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Steve Schmadeke  
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 More options Oct 19 1994, 1:29 pm
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From: hus...@ihs.com (Steve Schmadeke)
Date: 17 Oct 1994 17:35:10 GMT
Local: Mon, Oct 17 1994 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: SWC vs Big 8
Eric T. Moore (mo...@econ.unt.edu) wrote:
: m...@ksu.ksu.edu (Michael Cook) writes:

: >KU defeated Houston, lost to TCU  1-1
: >NU defeated Texas Tech            1-0
: >MU defeated Houston               1-0
: >CU defeated Texas                 1-0
: >OSU lost to Baylor                0-1
: >KSU defeated Rice                 1-0
: >ISU lost to Rice                  0-1
: >OU defeated Texas Tech,           1-2
: >   lost to TAMU and Texas
: >-------------------------------------
: >Big Eight 6, SWC 5

: The interesting note is that the three best teams of the Big 4 from the SWC
: are 3-1 vs the Big 8.

...And the top three teams in the Big 8 are a perfect 3-0 against the
SWC including a victory over current SWC conference co-leader Rice!!!


 
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