Draft Camp results Day 1
BLUEBOY
1 of the Draft Camp. Players are split up into categories of small
midfielders, medium forwards, ruckmen and tall forwards.
DRAFT Camp results - DAY 1
Here is a list of the top three players in each category for day one of the
National Draft Camp.
SPRINT TESTS (Over 5, 10 and 20 metres)
Small Midfielders
1. Daniel Harris - 1 (5m), 1.72 (10m), 2.93 (20m)
2. Josh Carracher - 1.08 (5m), 1.77 (10m), 2.94 (20m)
3. Shane Harvey - 1.01 (5m), 1.73 (10m), 2.96 (20m)
Medium Forwards
1. Jordon Bannister - 1.04 (5m), 1.76 (10m), 2.95 (20m)
2. Matthew Lokan - 1.1 (5m), 1.77 (10m), 2.97 (20m)
3. Kayne Pettifer - 1.04 (5m), 1.78 (10m), 2.99 (20m)
Ruckmen
1. Michael Bradshaw - 1.01 (5m), 1.7 (10m), 2.86 (20m)
2. Laurence Angwin - 1.02 (5m), 1.71 (10m), 2.93 (20m)
3. Adrian De Luca - 1.07 (5m), 1.78 (10m), 2.97 (20m)
Tall Forwards
1. Luke Livingston - 0.96 (5m), 1.67 (10m), 2.82 (20m)
2. Nick Riewoldt - 1.02 (5m), 1.67 (10m), 2.82 (20m)
3. Nick Gill - 1.02 (5m), 1.77 (10m), 2.96 (20m)
AGILITY
Small Midfielders
1. Hayden Skipworth - 8.14
2. Matthew Ball - 8.22
3. Ian Callinan - 8.22
Medium Forwards
1. Graham Johncock - 8.17
2. Kayne Pettifer - 8.18
3. Jordon Bannister - 8.2
Ruckmen
1. Guy Richards - 8.23
2. Drew Petrie - 8.37
3. Andrew McDougall - 8.47
Tall Forwards
1. Dion Woods - 8.27
2. Ryan Boyce - 8.29
3. Callan Beasy - 8.37
1REP. MAX. BENCH PRESS
Small Midfielders
1. Chris Hall - 107.5
2. Ian Callinan - 95
3. Michael Davis - 95
Medium Forwards
1. Matthew Lokan - 100
2. Chris Murphy - 100
3. Allan Murray - 100
Ruckmen
1. Michael Bradshaw - 110
2. Andrew McDougall - 105
3. Drew Petrie - 87.5
Tall Forwards
1. Dean Buszan - 135
2. Quinten Lynch - 105
3. Callan Beasy - 100
STANDING VERTICAL JUMP
Small Midfielders
1. Matthew Bell - 66
2. Josh Carracher - 65
3. Daniel Harris - 65
Medium Forwards
1. Chris Hay - 70
2. Mark Williams - 70
3. Nathan Lonie - 67
Ruckmen
1. Michael Bradshaw - 75
2. Callum Crook - 65
3. Andrew McDougall - 63
Tall Forwards
1. Callan Beasy - 68
2. Ryan Boyce - 67
3. Scott Thornton - 67
RUNNING VERTICAL JUMP
Small Midfielders
Off Left Leg
1. Michael Osborne - 87
2. Daniel Harris - 80
3. Ian Callinan - 79
Off Right Leg
1. Ian Callinan - 81
2. Matthew Ball - 80
3. Chris Hall - 75
Medium Forwards
Off Left Leg
1. Matthew Lokan - 87
2. Kayne Pettifer - 87
3. Lucas White - 80
Off Right Leg
1. Jordon Bannister - 81
2. Nathan Lonie - 79
3. Chris Murphy - 76
Ruckmen
Off Left Leg
1. Laurence Angwin - 86
2. Michael Bradshaw - 80
3. Chris Oliver - 80
Off Right Leg
1. Andrew McDougall - 77
2. Laurence Angwin - 75
3. Michael Bradshaw - 70
Tall Forwards
Off Left Leg
1. Dion Woods - 92
2. Nick Gill - 87
3. Sam Dawes - 86
Off Right Leg
1. Dion Woods - 95
2. Callan Beasy - 82
3. Nick Riewoldt - 81
BLUEBOY
SG 1
"BLUEBOY" <he...@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message
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BLUEBOY
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> Sweet 17 please explain the figues!!!! Are they times or what???
The Sprint Test (5m, 10m and 20m) figures are in seconds. The agility test
result is just the score they received for the test I think.
The Bench Press figures are in kilograms, and the vertical jump figures are
in centimetres I guess...
BLUEBOY
Zane Whitehorn
results (for speed, strength and vertical jump off left leg) is Port
Adelaide Magpies player Matthew Lokan. I don't think Lokan even played
a reserves game for Port this year but, on these results, will no doubt
find himself lining up for an AFL club next year.
Zane
Benjamin Liu
or something?
BLUEBOY <he...@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message
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Mark Temby
Hands off our homegrown stars.
Zane Whitehorn wrote in message <39C9C8C2...@adelaide.edu.au>...
David Blake
<Ltly5.1071$O7.2...@ozemail.com.au>, "Mark Temby"
<tem...@ozemail.com.au> did scribe:
>Yeh and hopefully for the Power.
>Hands off our homegrown stars.
Since when have the Power had homegrown anything?
snipo
--
cheers,
Dave
Go Dons!!
I plan on living forever. So far, so good.
Asgardian
"David Blake" <df...@SpAmInAcAnbigpond.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 20:11:19 +0930, in article
> <Ltly5.1071$O7.2...@ozemail.com.au>, "Mark Temby"
> <tem...@ozemail.com.au> did scribe:
>
> >Yeh and hopefully for the Power.
> >Hands off our homegrown stars.
>
> Since when have the Power had homegrown anything?
>
You can do better than that, can't you David????????
Chris
David Blake
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>"David Blake" <df...@SpAmInAcAnbigpond.com> wrote in message
>news:44pjss4d8fejt1gcg...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 20:11:19 +0930, in article
>> <Ltly5.1071$O7.2...@ozemail.com.au>, "Mark Temby"
>> <tem...@ozemail.com.au> did scribe:
>>
>> >Yeh and hopefully for the Power.
>> >Hands off our homegrown stars.
>>
>> Since when have the Power had homegrown anything?
>>
>
>You can do better than that, can't you David????????
Probably but Port aren't worth the effort :-)
Asgardian
"David Blake" <df...@SpAmInAcAnbigpond.com> wrote in message
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:58:02 +0930, in article
> <39c9...@news.iprimus.com.au>, "Asgardian" <cgt...@primus.com.au> did
> scribe:
>
> >
> >"David Blake" <df...@SpAmInAcAnbigpond.com> wrote in message
> >news:44pjss4d8fejt1gcg...@4ax.com...
> >> On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 20:11:19 +0930, in article
> >> <Ltly5.1071$O7.2...@ozemail.com.au>, "Mark Temby"
> >> <tem...@ozemail.com.au> did scribe:
> >>
> >> >Yeh and hopefully for the Power.
> >> >Hands off our homegrown stars.
> >>
> >> Since when have the Power had homegrown anything?
> >>
> >
> >You can do better than that, can't you David????????
>
> Probably but Port aren't worth the effort :-)
>
Curious response since you made the effort to take a cheap
shot in the first place
Yes, cheers David
Chris
Senor Skase
> Since when have the Power had homegrown anything?
> snipo
> --
> cheers,
> Dave
> Go Dons!!
> I plan on living forever. So far, so good.
Since when Essendon?
SS
David Blake
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>"David Blake" <df...@SpAmInAcAnbigpond.com> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:58:02 +0930, in article
>> <39c9...@news.iprimus.com.au>, "Asgardian" <cgt...@primus.com.au> did
>> scribe:
>>
>> >
>> >"David Blake" <df...@SpAmInAcAnbigpond.com> wrote in message
>> >news:44pjss4d8fejt1gcg...@4ax.com...
>> >> On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 20:11:19 +0930, in article
>> >> <Ltly5.1071$O7.2...@ozemail.com.au>, "Mark Temby"
>> >> <tem...@ozemail.com.au> did scribe:
>> >>
>> >> >Yeh and hopefully for the Power.
>> >> >Hands off our homegrown stars.
>> >>
>> >> Since when have the Power had homegrown anything?
>> >>
>> >
>> >You can do better than that, can't you David????????
>>
>> Probably but Port aren't worth the effort :-)
>>
>
>Curious response since you made the effort to take a cheap
>shot in the first place
"Cheap shot"??????? Port Power are the same as every other AFL club,
they do not develop junior talent, the inference I responded to. If
you can't handle a little humour to boot, tough tit.
David Blake
<39CBED...@portpower.zzn.com>, Senor Skase
<senor...@portpower.zzn.com> did scribe:
>David Blake wrote:
>
>> Since when have the Power had homegrown anything?
snip
>Since when Essendon?
Since the U19's were disbanded, hence I don't tell people to keep
their hands off "our homegorwn stars".
Asgardian
"David Blake" <df...@SpAmInAcAnbigpond.com> wrote in message
This type of response makes me wonder about a persons ability to be
objective, your sense of humour is obviously a one way street. Attack
Essendon, look out, here comes the red and black avenger, David Blake,
but when he takes a cheap shot, it's all in fun, and he'll shoot from the
hip
at anyone daring to question him.
Just a minor point David, the original post said, and I quote
"Yeh and hopefully for the Power.
Hands off our homegrown stars"
This was in reference to a lad by the name of Matthew Lokan, who is
in the junior age teams at Alberton, which just happens to be the home
base of the Power, plus the Port Adelaide Magpies. If you believe
Lokan is not "homegrown" your dictionary differs from mine.
and yes, still cheers David
Chris
David Blake
<39cc...@news.iprimus.com.au>, "Asgardian" <cgt...@primus.com.au> did
scribe:
>This type of response makes me wonder about a persons ability to be
>objective, your sense of humour is obviously a one way street.
Nope, not at all.
>Attack Essendon, look out, here comes the red and black avenger, David Blake,
*snort* /checks undies, still on the inside/ Phew, that's a relief :o)
Like I did when PM posted that Essendon were boring? Boy did I flame
him good and proper. I can handle fun as much as the next person.
Hypocrisy and double standards piss me off.
>but when he takes a cheap shot,
Again, what "cheap shot"????
>it's all in fun, and he'll shoot from the hip at anyone daring to question him.
Yeah right. When did I do that to you? All I said was "Port aren't
worth the effort" or something along those lines with a :-) at the end
to indicate humor. That's hardly "shooting from the hip". It was more
a dig at SS and PM who sometimes go on about how other people find
their club so fascinating. And people reckon I'm a tad sensitive about
my team. Sheesh.
>Just a minor point David, the original post said, and I quote
>"Yeh and hopefully for the Power.
>Hands off our homegrown stars"
To which I responded "since when have the Power had homegrown
anything?", a question intended to point out that *AFL* clubs do not
have homegrown stars as they do not have junior programs.
>This was in reference to a lad by the name of Matthew Lokan, who is
>in the junior age teams at Alberton, which just happens to be the home
>base of the Power, plus the Port Adelaide Magpies. If you believe
>Lokan is not "homegrown" your dictionary differs from mine.
As far as the "Power" are concerned he aint. Players developed by the
Port Magpies do not belong to the Port Power.
Anyway this seems to have gotten way beyond what it was originally
intended. If you want to take offence at a suggestion that Port
Magpies players don't belong to the Power that's fine, but my original
post wasn't intended to offend. If you think it's a cheap shot well
and good, not much I can do about that. I'm off to watch a bit more of
the Olympics. Enjoy.
Power Mad
David Blake = http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame21.html
"Asgardian" <cgt...@primus.com.au> wrote in message
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Rob
df...@SpAmInAcAnbigpond.com says...
>>Curious response since you made the effort to take a cheap
>>shot in the first place
>
>"Cheap shot"??????? Port Power are the same as every other AFL club,
>they do not develop junior talent, the inference I responded to. If
>you can't handle a little humour to boot, tough tit.
Not entirely true, Port Adelaide (like the other 3 WA and SA clubs) do put a
lot of money back into local footy. Can't say the same for Essendon.
--
Dockers for Premiers 2001.
ICQ #39678890
David Blake
<39ccb12f$0$11...@motown.iinet.net.au>, NOCRAPwo...@start.com.au
(Rob) did scribe:
>In article <q32osskun58rgid4s...@4ax.com>,
>df...@SpAmInAcAnbigpond.com says...
>
>>>Curious response since you made the effort to take a cheap
>>>shot in the first place
>>
>>"Cheap shot"??????? Port Power are the same as every other AFL club,
>>they do not develop junior talent, the inference I responded to. If
>>you can't handle a little humour to boot, tough tit.
>
>Not entirely true, Port Adelaide (like the other 3 WA and SA clubs) do put a
>lot of money back into local footy. Can't say the same for Essendon.
True, though without the requirement in their licences would those 4
clubs?
Power Mad
"Asgardian" <cgt...@primus.com.au> did
> scribe:
>
> >Attack Essendon, look out, here comes the red and black avenger, David
Blake,
>
> *snort* /checks undies, still on the inside/ Phew, that's a relief :o)
>
> Like I did when PM posted that Essendon were boring? Boy did I flame
> him good and proper. I can handle fun as much as the next person.
> Hypocrisy and double standards piss me off.
>
I don't recall saying that, but no doubt you've got the post filed away
somewhere. I would more likely have said that *you* are boring.
Dave, your attempt to add a bit of humour to your otherwise dull and
monotonous refutations has fallen flat. Stick to what you know best and
I'll go back to ignoring your posts...
David Blake
<Kawz5.5246$O7.8...@ozemail.com.au>, "Power Mad" <ne...@ten.com> did
scribe:
Care factor, zero.
Mark Temby
Port Adelaide supporters (magpie and power alike) watch week in, week out
such as Didak, Graham Johncock, Lokan etc are all going to be forced to play
away from Alberton. Bring back the days when you didn't have to think, 'well
that's the last we see of him playing at Port'.
Ok I've had my tanty now.
Still think they should change the draft so that each AFL club can choose 2
players a year from their nominated 'local' club before the draft. That way,
over time, you would see a lot of the homegrown talent stay. Essendon etc
could nominate their VFL sides and do the same thing. Crows would have to
choose a club to affiliate to say Norwood?? and do the same.
By the way, the other SANFL clubs can 'suffer in their jocks' when they get
no money from Port this year. Maybe if our interstate players could actually
play in the same SANFL team like their Victorian competitors they would be
more successful. Other SANFL clubs think ahead....pigs arse...that's why
they have all been losers over the years.....
cheers
Mark
David Blake wrote in message ...
Rob
df...@SpAmInAcAnbigpond.com says...
>>>"Cheap shot"??????? Port Power are the same as every other AFL club,
>>>they do not develop junior talent, the inference I responded to. If
>>>you can't handle a little humour to boot, tough tit.
>>
>>Not entirely true, Port Adelaide (like the other 3 WA and SA clubs) do put a
>>lot of money back into local footy. Can't say the same for Essendon.
>
>True, though without the requirement in their licences would those 4
>clubs?
Of course not, why would they? The AFL provides no incentive to invest in grass
roots footy.
David Blake
<39cf31cd$0$12...@motown.iinet.net.au>, NOCRAPwo...@start.com.au
(Rob) did scribe:
>In article <8gqqsskoc6amjbnf9...@4ax.com>,
>df...@SpAmInAcAnbigpond.com says...
>
>>>>"Cheap shot"??????? Port Power are the same as every other AFL club,
>>>>they do not develop junior talent, the inference I responded to. If
>>>>you can't handle a little humour to boot, tough tit.
>>>
>>>Not entirely true, Port Adelaide (like the other 3 WA and SA clubs) do put a
>>>lot of money back into local footy. Can't say the same for Essendon.
>>
>>True, though without the requirement in their licences would those 4
>>clubs?
>
>Of course not, why would they? The AFL provides no incentive to invest in grass
>roots footy.
Perzacerly. Which is bloody stupid. I'd be quite happy to see clubs
investing most of their money back into grass roots footy,
particularly given the current state it's in.
David Blake
<39CFEFB6...@adelaide.edu.au>, Zane Whitehorn
<zane.wh...@adelaide.edu.au> did scribe:
>
>
>Mark Temby wrote:
>>
>> By the way, I was just venting my spleen to the world that the players that
>> Port Adelaide supporters (magpie and power alike) watch week in, week out
>> such as Didak, Graham Johncock, Lokan etc are all going to be forced to play
>> away from Alberton. Bring back the days when you didn't have to think, 'well
>> that's the last we see of him playing at Port'.
>>
>> Ok I've had my tanty now.
>>
>> Still think they should change the draft so that each AFL club can choose 2
>> players a year from their nominated 'local' club before the draft. That way,
>> over time, you would see a lot of the homegrown talent stay. Essendon etc
>> could nominate their VFL sides and do the same thing. Crows would have to
>> choose a club to affiliate to say Norwood?? and do the same.
>>
>> By the way, the other SANFL clubs can 'suffer in their jocks' when they get
>> no money from Port this year. Maybe if our interstate players could actually
>> play in the same SANFL team like their Victorian competitors they would be
>> more successful. Other SANFL clubs think ahead....pigs arse...that's why
>> they have all been losers over the years.....
>>
>> cheers
>> Mark
>
>
>This is exactly what I have been arguing for ages. If you give clubs a
>development area where they can pick the top player from each year prior
>to the draft, it will force clubs to become more involved in the area
>and in grass roots football.
snipo much sensible stuff
This is bascially what used to happen with zoning in the VFL where you
could develop players through the under '19's and reserves. But until
there are less clubs in Melbourne I can't see it returning. If there
were only 3 or 4 (or even less) then perhaps it would work.
snip
Zane Whitehorn
Mark Temby wrote:
>
> By the way, I was just venting my spleen to the world that the players that
> Port Adelaide supporters (magpie and power alike) watch week in, week out
> such as Didak, Graham Johncock, Lokan etc are all going to be forced to play
> away from Alberton. Bring back the days when you didn't have to think, 'well
> that's the last we see of him playing at Port'.
>
> Ok I've had my tanty now.
>
> Still think they should change the draft so that each AFL club can choose 2
> players a year from their nominated 'local' club before the draft. That way,
> over time, you would see a lot of the homegrown talent stay. Essendon etc
> could nominate their VFL sides and do the same thing. Crows would have to
> choose a club to affiliate to say Norwood?? and do the same.
>
> By the way, the other SANFL clubs can 'suffer in their jocks' when they get
> no money from Port this year. Maybe if our interstate players could actually
> play in the same SANFL team like their Victorian competitors they would be
> more successful. Other SANFL clubs think ahead....pigs arse...that's why
> they have all been losers over the years.....
>
> cheers
> Mark
This is exactly what I have been arguing for ages. If you give clubs a
development area where they can pick the top player from each year prior
to the draft, it will force clubs to become more involved in the area
and in grass roots football.
Also, I believe that players shouldn't be drafted until they have played
a senior game in their home competition. Out of the 8 Port Magpies
players at the Draft Camp, only two have played senior football this
year and maybe another two in the reserves. That means that players go
straight from the U/19's in SA (or wherever) to playing in the VFL and
sometimes the step up is too much for them. One only has to see the
number of players drafted who fall by the way side for proof of this.
Currently, recruiting scouts have to rely on watching games against
other 17 year olds and beep tests and the like to gauge how they will
play against 25 year olds. A season in the SANFL/Westar/TFL etc. will
assist players maturity and will give recruiters a better understanding
of players' ability. There may be some cases where players are held
back a year so that rather than play one game at the end of a season,
their local clubs get a full year out of them the next year but in many
cases these juniors (like Port's Alan Didak) were integral parts of
their team and to keep them in the reserves another year would simply be
detrimental to the club and to the player.
Zane
> David Blake wrote in message ...
Mark Temby
Why can't the AFL clubs develop a couple of juniors each year in their VFL
side and therefore claim them predraft. Port consistently have two or three
17 YO's in their magpies side (roughly the VFL equivalent), I 'd be
surprised if your clubs didn't also.
The VFL clubs have reserves sides as well don't they.
cheers
Mark
David Blake wrote in message ...
>snipo much sensible stuff
>
>This is bascially what used to happen with zoning in the VFL where you
>could develop players through the under '19's and reserves. But until
>there are less clubs in Melbourne I can't see it returning. If there
>were only 3 or 4 (or even less) then perhaps it would work.
>
>snip
>
Macca
<tem...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>David,
>
>Why can't the AFL clubs develop a couple of juniors each year in their VFL
>side and therefore claim them predraft. Port consistently have two or three
>17 YO's in their magpies side (roughly the VFL equivalent), I 'd be
>surprised if your clubs didn't also.
>The VFL clubs have reserves sides as well don't they.
>
>cheers
>Mark
>
nods...Port every year seem to have plenty of young talent coming up
intot he seniors...This year we had Didak, Shaun Burgoyne, Corey
Ahchee just to name a few...plus others that played last year in Shane
Holmes, Nathan Mcdowall, Brett Bascombe.
Also some in the reserves that i saw in the GF were Michael Wilsons
brother...a small aboriginal kid called Tessman, who looked like
lightening...so hopefully port should have about 1 or 2 left after the
draft :):)
In the past years Ports young brigade have been taken very
quickly...Mcleod, Waterhouse, Wakelins, Fiora, Pickett x2, O Loughlin,
Beinke, Enright, Foster, Ramsey, Bond, James...most of which were only
in the last 3/4 years.
Id love to see some of those names in a power guernsey.
Im sure it would work out if they introduced zones...its just some
teams would be better at development than others...ie. port, sturt.
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David Blake
<2I_z5.6408$O7.1...@ozemail.com.au>, "Mark Temby"
<tem...@ozemail.com.au> did scribe:
>David,
>
>Why can't the AFL clubs develop a couple of juniors each year in their VFL
>side and therefore claim them predraft. Port consistently have two or three
>17 YO's in their magpies side (roughly the VFL equivalent), I 'd be
>surprised if your clubs didn't also.
Why indeed. Most probably because the clubs can't agree on zones for
them.
>The VFL clubs have reserves sides as well don't they.
Not the AFL VFL sides if that makes any sense! The old VFA clubs do
but Carlton Essendon etc don't.