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BrookDaves

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Apr 11, 2012, 2:15:06 PM4/11/12
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Ok, that time of year again. However, all I've seen is
chatter about five bids and michigan state not being in the
top 20, no one down here cares.

I want to know about who in the South (we still have Texas,
Kansas, Arkansas, UNT, ATM, State, OU and added Colorado)
will be repping in Boulder. Who their best players are -
All-Region. And what they'll do in Boulder.

I understand that the South doesn't have the names and
personalities (egos) of 2006-2010, but we can make a
concerted effort to 100 posts, right? I'll start. Note: I
have not been to a major tourney this year, I'm only going
on hear-say and guts.

Colorado - they seem to be in a down year, much like 2010,
maybe even worse. They've lost lots of top talent, but
besides Carleton, they have to be one of the best recuiting
teams consistently, so I wouldn't sleep on them at all. Does
Mickle have what it takes to carry a team, now that he's
without some of the big dogs from last year - Zemmel,
Padget, etc.?

Texas - It's a shame that Centex wasn't couldn't be covered
by NexGen, I was hoping to peek a game of them. They have
two FOTYs (Chris Brooks and Will Driscoll) from 2010, now
Juniors along with a contingent of players adept at running
the consistent UT Vert stack system. They've only lost to
top 10 teams (besides the mud pit that was Mardi Gras
Sunday, that tournament should NOT be sanctioned) all year
and beat Pitt. The knock though, is they don't have the
Franchise-type player anymore, that guy willing to step up
and take over. Let's see if they can do it on their home
turf at Regionals.

ATM - these guys have a bitter taste in their mouth from not
going to Regionals last year (finals got in way of making
17-hour trek to Boulder). They didn't lose a player and had
a very respectable year, a couple tourney wins. They were a
snubbing from Centex away from being in the top 20 and
getting the SC a third bid. They definitely have a chance
to take down CU or UT in any given game, but can they at
Regionals??

Besides that, I'm not really sure of anyone else's situation
right now. Arkansas will probably make it to the backdoor
semis as always, UNT and Texas State will be looking to be
playing on Sunday morning. Missouri...don't know anything
about them. Kansas...don't really want to know anything
about them. OU will be a wildcard and will do damage
Sunday. OSU is surprisingly good, so is Harding but they
have sights on D-III Championship.


All-Region (no real order, both teams):
Will Driscoll - UT - Junior
Andrew Klotz - UT
Jimmy Mickle - CU
Matt Costello - ATM
Matt Jackson - Ark - 5th year
Eric Kearney - Ark
Vinny - KU
Kevin Christian - OU
#24 - Harding


100 posts!

Brooks


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Doc

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Apr 12, 2012, 12:20:03 PM4/12/12
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I'm sure we can get this post to 100 views. That's what you
said right?

All I can say about this region is that prestige and history
have been carrying some of the teams this year. When it
comes to regionals, anything is possible.

Really only three teams I see in the hunt this year: UT, CU,
and ATM. Missouri looks like they could be the sleeper this
year, definitely a feast or famine team, as they have beaten
teams like Iowa and lost by 1 to Texas. Unlike the NC
region, these teams are actually going to have to work to
get to nationals. Should be fun to watch.

Can't speak to All-region yet.

Ace

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Apr 12, 2012, 12:58:08 PM4/12/12
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You would nominate Kearney over Abe Coffin? I get that
Matty J is over-hyped and has been for years, but to not
nominate Abe is a pretty drastic oversight.

Will W

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Apr 12, 2012, 1:10:12 PM4/12/12
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Predictions: CU and Texas cruise to Nationals berths. Texas
AM folds like a house of cards of a windy day, and
subsequently attacks the format of the tournament or the
distance they had to travel from their hotel to the fields.
Arkansas always has a place in my heart (obviously) but I
don't think they have the dogs to get it done.


-Will

bobby

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Apr 12, 2012, 1:40:03 PM4/12/12
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Get ready from some serious upsets from Texas State even
without their 1st team all region foty theyll make it to
boulder easily

Doc

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Apr 12, 2012, 1:50:03 PM4/12/12
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My fav troll!

Man I missed you Will. Hope all is well.

Thanks for the reverse psych up, we'll take all the motition
you want to hand to us.

Love your b/f

Doc

Will W

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Apr 12, 2012, 2:05:03 PM4/12/12
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Yea. Take all the motition you can get your hands on.

Doc

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Apr 12, 2012, 2:20:03 PM4/12/12
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Dang, I can't spell.

Motivation

BrookDaves

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Apr 12, 2012, 2:25:04 PM4/12/12
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Don't know Abe and I don't even have a vote. So vote for
Abe if you want. I've seen Kearney's work.

Kearney

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Apr 13, 2012, 1:17:36 PM4/13/12
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Abe was our FOTY last year and the nod should go in his
favor. It's an honor to get an all-region mention though! My
team and I are coming to play, that's for sure. Can't wait
to see everyone's smiling faces.

Paul Utesch

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Apr 13, 2012, 7:30:04 PM4/13/12
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Colorado - Centex was the Jimmy Mickle show. Knowing this
team, however, I know they have some power that will be
returning from injuries. My boy Tim Morrissy, for example.
It's true they do not have the depth of last year, but their
program (my favorite college program...) is a smart,
fundamentally sound one that is not to be underestimated.
Be prepared to see a different team at Regionals.

Missouri - I've never seen this team as hot as they are this
year. I however will not give full credit for beating Iowa
who were acting like a bunch of tards during that game. I
do give them credit for playing from a position of power
when a team is playing like tards though. This is not meant
to be derogatory to Missouri. Look out for dangerous
players such as Matt Francis and those two guys who I always
think are twins, but they aren't. I think they are a team
Texas and Colorado should not take lightly.

Texas A&M - I was a bit upset to not see A&M at Centex.
Being a new transplant to Texas from the North Central, I
see that one of the biggest problems the state of Texas has
is accessibility to play "elite" teams. When you are
surrounded by New Mexico, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Louisiana,
and live in a state that already takes an eternity to get
anywhere; you pretty much have to fly to play other elite
teams. A&M could have been another team fighting for more
strength in the region. With a 30-2 record, they've shown
they can win... but they have only played one team in the
top 20 (Georgia, #20), and their loss to Alabama was
questionable. I see them as a wildcard for Regionals. (A&M,
go to better tournaments next year. Centex TDs, let them
into Centex to fight for more regional strength!)

All-Region?
Tim Morrissy - Colorado
Jimmy Mickle - Colorado
Brett Hidaka - Kansas
Vinny C - Kansas
That one guy from Mizzou.
Karl Doege - Arkansas

That's all I have for now.

Kevin Christian

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Apr 14, 2012, 1:55:04 AM4/14/12
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Austin Walker has thrown over 15,00 throws in his life. All
for scores.
Austin Walker for FOTY.

Paul Utesch

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Apr 14, 2012, 5:30:04 PM4/14/12
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I second Austin Walker for FOTY. I'm kind of surprised he's
a freshman.

BrookDaves

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Apr 14, 2012, 11:10:04 PM4/14/12
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Looking forward to seeing him in Austin.

Will

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Apr 15, 2012, 6:31:27 AM4/15/12
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Like Kearney said, Abe Coffin won FOTY in our region last
year and his play has only gotten more stellar since. Also,
Karl Doege doesn't play for Arkansas anymore.

Paul Utesch

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Apr 15, 2012, 9:17:51 PM4/15/12
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SharpWill wrote on Sat, 14 April 2012 19:07
> Also, Karl Doege doesn't play for Arkansas anymore.


Doesn't mean I won't nominate him every year.

PedragS

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Apr 16, 2012, 3:03:02 PM4/16/12
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After one weekend of CCs, it looks like Kansas is peaking at
the right time. They will likely be the 4th seed at
regionals, but I don't see them getting in Texas's way.

What happened to Missouri? They've had good results and then
some terrible results. Finishing 4th in Ozarks? Thats no
good...

Colorado isn't looking nearly as strong as it did. They
nearly bageled the entire section last year, but this year
they've been giving up points to bad teams.

This weekend will determine how the top 3 seeds at regionals
will turn out. If A&M can beat Texas, they'll get the 2nd
seed, putting CU at 1 and dropping Texas to 3. But barring
the perfect storm, Texas isnt giving up more than 8 points
to A&M.

Keep an eye on the south texas CCs. I'm thinking 4 out of
the 7 all-region 1st teamers are coming from this section.

BrookDaves

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Apr 17, 2012, 12:55:03 AM4/17/12
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I also forgot to speak up for my own boy Zach Riggins. If
you've played UNT, you know who he is. He's absolutely
dirty and it sucks he may not be known as well as past UNT
studs KRich, DRich, Jake Anderson, Matt Randall, which
levels he definitely plays up to.

He was FOTY in '09 and has been dominating since. I hope to
see him on the all-region list. Though UNT's results may
relegate him to 2nd team. He is talented on a level higher
than the guys I mentioned in the first post.

Brooks

Tim Kefalas

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Apr 17, 2012, 6:25:06 AM4/17/12
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I think all these posts are pretty funny with the absolute
ridiculous bias towards anywhere but Colorado.

"CU giving up points to bad teams."

Colorado State hasn't gotten blown out by a single team in
this region (barring CC). Has two point losses to Arkansas
and Kstate, 4 point loss to CU. Wins over Wash-U, Baylor
etc. Finished ~ 6 places above Missouri at FSC, blew out
teams (Truman State) that Missouri squeaked out a universe
point victory over.

Colorado College hasn't played anyone in the region except
Colorado teams, bad results during the regular season? So
what, they took the opposite road as Texas A&M, only played
quality competition. They've always had a small squad when
they travel. They have nationals experience, even if they
lost Spiva and Ezra, they still a solid team, with a lot of
height.

I'm not saying any Colorado teams are particularly strong
(this is the weakest CU team I've seen in 10 years). All I'm
saying, is get some actual perspective. With the exception
of Texas and A&M (the ONLY two notable teams I haven't seen
play in person this year) I'd say the region actually has
quite a bit of parity. And I think that unless either of
those teams is really head and shoulders above the rest then
the 1-10 seeds all have a decent shot at being around on
Sunday and making noise.

Tim Kefalas

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Apr 17, 2012, 7:45:05 AM4/17/12
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And as far as All-region from the Colorado perspective:

Jimmy Mickle #23 Colorado (no contest, this is his team and
it's success or failure will be based on how well he plays)
Hidde (sp) Snyder #5 Colorado (big down field deep threat,
much like his older brother)
Josh Anderson #15 (I think, whoever #15 is) Colorado College
(big athlete, runs the downfield for this team)
Colorado College #13 or #10 handler (the shorter handler
type for CC that DOESN'T have curly hair, makes all their
big throws, very strong forehand, seems like his number
varies every time I see him play)
Rob White #69 Colorado State FOTY - (imported British soccer
player ridiculous speed, explosiveness and accent)

BJ

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Apr 17, 2012, 9:50:06 AM4/17/12
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Don't know as much as previous years, that being said:

Brett Hidaka (Kansas)
Gary Gareis (Kansas)
Vinny (Kansas)

Matt Jackson (Arkansas)

Zach Riggins (UNT)

Matt Bennett (aTm)

Will "debbie" driscoll (UT)
Aditya Yerrapragada (UT)
Trey LaMasters (UT) or a different handler if you prefer

Michael Vaughn (txSt)
Nicholas Whale (txSt)

Jimmy Mickle (CU)
I'm sure there are many other worthy mamabirds as well.

FOTY: Austin Walker (tx st) - tore his ACL and won't be
participating in the series, however, was Texas State's most
complete player prior to injury and was a top 7 contributor
to the regionally competitive Dallas Plex in the club
series.

Jarrod Hockett

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Apr 17, 2012, 1:35:04 PM4/17/12
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Austin Walker once satisfied 2 women, sexually, with a
single layout D.

proof (bottom right): http://imgur.com/bVZlr

forget KONY 2012. It's FOTY 2012.

Kearney

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Apr 17, 2012, 1:48:14 PM4/17/12
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Well damn. He wins.

Kevin Christian

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Apr 17, 2012, 2:00:04 PM4/17/12
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Austin Walker and 6 card board cut outs of Karl Doege beat
Revolver at club nationals this past season. Unfortunately,
cardboard cutout #4 was ineligible and they were
disqualified.

Jarrod Hockett

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Apr 17, 2012, 2:15:04 PM4/17/12
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Getting skied by Austin Walker is similar to being knighted
by the Queen of England. They're both honorable, noble, and
even memorable feats, except one of these ceromonies
involves more balls in your face.

It's FOTY 2012.

Kevin Christian

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Apr 17, 2012, 2:25:04 PM4/17/12
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Austin Walker would only need to make 1 "brotip" video to
make someone a nationals caliber player.

Jarrod Hockett

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Apr 17, 2012, 2:35:04 PM4/17/12
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Scientists have determined the cause of the earthquake that
made the Mississippi River flow backwards for days: an
Austin Walker footblock.

Kevin Christian

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Apr 17, 2012, 2:45:04 PM4/17/12
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Austin Walker is such a spirited player that the UOA is
planning an unreffed Austin Walker UOA 8's tournament in
May.

Tournament Details:
NO REFS!!!!!
Wilmington, NC
NO REFS!!!!!
Each team will receive an article of Austin Walker swag with
his autograph on it.
NO REFS!!!!!
Bid price - $250

Jarrod Hockett

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Apr 17, 2012, 2:55:05 PM4/17/12
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Every Taylor Swift song is about Austin Walker.

When he's not breaking marks, he's breaking hearts.

Spencer

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Apr 17, 2012, 3:02:31 PM4/17/12
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Missouri has some losses and some wins. I believe the best
statement I've seen up to this point is "feast or famine"
judge us how you wish. Ozarks teams have seen vast
improvement the past few weeks and look to make some noise.
Especially if early parts of the tournament exhibit
inter-conference battles.

Some Ozark All-region candidates
Missouri - Ryan Meinkoth (Gr)- best all-around player for
Mizzou and has been for years

Missouri - Jay Froude - lets just say if you've played us
you've probably watched him soar

Vinny - KU

Matt Jackson - Arkansas

Taren Goins - Harding (D-III)(the guy that has the disc
every other)

Kevin Christian

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Apr 17, 2012, 3:30:05 PM4/17/12
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USAU split texas into 2 sections to give the teams from
texas more of a chance to get to regionals. The majority of
this decision was based on Austin Walker's decision to
attend Texas State.

Kevin Christian

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Apr 17, 2012, 3:50:04 PM4/17/12
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In all seriousness, Austin Walker carried Marcus high school
to a Texas High school State Championship his senior year of
high school.
http://scores.usaultimate.org/scores2011/#youth-open/tournament/8802

Will W

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Apr 17, 2012, 3:55:06 PM4/17/12
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None of these jokes are even remotely funny.

Jarrod Hockett

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Apr 17, 2012, 4:00:06 PM4/17/12
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The luscious, long locks of hair that Matty Jackson formerly
sported were actually a wig made of Austin Walker's pubes
that he donated to the Arkansan. The ability to fly comes
from within Austin Walker's compression shorts.

Kevin Christian

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Apr 17, 2012, 4:15:04 PM4/17/12
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Austin Walker throws 1 turnover per game, how else would he
score 15 callahans?

side note: These aren't jokes, they're facts. Austin Walker
for FoTY 2012 is not a laughing matter.

Jarrod Hockett

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Apr 17, 2012, 4:20:04 PM4/17/12
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Jesus Christ died for your sins.

Austin Walker skied for everything else.

Matt Costello

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Apr 17, 2012, 4:50:05 PM4/17/12
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Legend has it, if they weren't busy making Austin
Walker-isms, OU would have made regionals.


PS. Let's get back to real talk.

All Region (1st):

Jimmy Mickle - Colorado
Will Driscoll - Texas
Trey LeMasters - Texas
Matt Bennett - A&M
Vinny C - Kansas
Zach Riggins - UNT
Abe Coffin - Arkansas

All Region (2nd):

Aditya Y. - Texas
Andrew Klotz - Texas
Will Campbell - Texas
Matt Jackson - Arkansas
Kevin Christian - OU
Ryan Meinkoth - Mizzou
Brett Hidaka - Kansas

Jarrod Hockett

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Apr 17, 2012, 5:00:05 PM4/17/12
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yetti wrote on Tue, 17 April 2012 15:49
> Legend has it, if they weren't busy making Austin
> Walker-isms, OU would have made regionals.


probably pretty similar to aTm's natties run last year.

Kevin Christian

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Apr 17, 2012, 5:35:04 PM4/17/12
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I mean I would have been more than happy to help Bennett out
last year. He can throw his scoober as far as brodie smith
can throw a hammer.

We kind of screwed ourselves this year, all our results were
nullified because of an illegibly player costing the ozarks
a 6th bid. Despite that, we did lose something like 3 games
to go so its not like we didn't have chances to make
regionals.

In other news, Austin Walker and his 5 Karl Doege cardboard
cutouts(#4 got cut) are looking to pick up a 7th for there
run at club natties next year. Please include in your
application: Favorite Pokemon(#1-151 cause really who even
cares about the others), Least favorite boy band, and how
buff you are on a scale of 1-Axl.

BrookDaves

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Apr 18, 2012, 12:30:09 AM4/18/12
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I was hoping to find some great posts on all-region, but
found all of these Doege-isms...by people I know
nonetheless...leave it to Ozarks people.

Austin Walker for FOTY. It was written...he had "FOTY"
shaved in his head last fall in the club series.

Will W

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Apr 18, 2012, 1:50:12 AM4/18/12
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How many Texas ATM guys are sitting around in there living
rooms, eating some pizza, and convincing each other that
they actually have a shot to make nationals? Over or Under
6? I'll take the over.

Could the Charlotte Bobcats go 30-2 if they played only NBDL
teams? Definitely.

Colorado isn't that good. I've heard it for years. YEARS.
and they always win their region. Every time.
Texas is beatable. Really? When is someone going to beat
them? They ALWAYS make the show. EVERY TIME

I hope the All Region team is all non Texas and CU players.
Just confirming the absurdity of this discussion.

Is that guy Axl from Kansas still alive? If he is, he should
probably get All Region.

Tim Kefalas

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Apr 18, 2012, 1:55:06 AM4/18/12
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willw556 wrote on Tue, 17 April 2012 23:50
> Colorado isn't that good. I've heard it for years.
> YEARS. and they always win their region. Every time.


Quoted for truth.

Paul Utesch

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Apr 18, 2012, 2:00:09 AM4/18/12
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willw556 wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 00:50
> Is that guy Axl from Kansas still alive? If he is, he
> should probably get All Region.


You are the funniest person alive.

Kevin Christian

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Apr 18, 2012, 2:10:07 AM4/18/12
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Fine Brooks, you guilted me into it. Here we go.

Texas - watched them play at centex. Driscoll and Aditya had
a lot of the offense run through them from the couple of
points I saw. Trey rolled an ankle if I recall so I didn't
get to see him play.
Will Driscoll
Trey LaMastres
Aditya Yerrapragada
Will Campbell

Colorado
Jimmy Mickle - Best pulls in ultimate right? Runs the show
for Colorado from what I saw at centex.
I don't really know many of the other colorado/colorado
state/colorado college guys but I'm sure there are some
deserving players.

Texas A&M
Yetti
Carson Ryan
Matt Bennett
Although both Yetti and Carson are both great players,
Bennett was typically the person we were more worried about
shutting down in games.

Arkansas - Haven't played Arkansas at all this year but have
played my share of games against them in the past.
Matt Jackson - one of the most (over)hyped players in
college ultimate. Matty knows how to ball, though without
his long hair hes a shadow of the man he once was. Probably
the most deserving of the three from LS
Eric Kearney - Good defender
Abe Coffin - won FoTY last year without even playing the
series. He's gotta be go right?
Karl Doege - There is no reason not to.

Kansas - Played Kansas at free state, daka was injured. Of
the three vinny gets the nod over the other two.
Vinny
Gary
Hidaka

Missouri - Played them on sunday at sectionals and the only
two that stood out in my mind were these two
Matt Francis - good cutter and defender
Jay? - Tall blonde guy, good cutter

Washu
Zach Lou - good handle, played good, physical D
Luke
Vinny?
Jacob - solid handle
Luke and Vinny were good cutters but Zach felt like more of
a constant playmaker for them

Texas State
Though it doesnt need to be said, Austin Walker for FotY

Kansas State
Camo - short squirrely handler, great player
Kyle Welch - O Line handle for kstate, good at executing on
O, played physical on D, good at dictating with his body.

Oklahoma - Gotta show my boys some love
Lyle Clark - last of the height that OU once had, was the
main handle on the d line this season. Wasn't able to make
sectionals due to a family member's wedding. Big throws.
Parker Dooly - One of the best cutters I have played with. I
really don't know how he is constantly open down field.
Played middle cutter in our O-line. Takes care of the disc
well. There were multiple tournaments he had 0 turns for the
weekend.
Kevin Kingsley - Worked as the other middle cutter on our
O-line. Only a sophomore, hes got solid throws and knows how
to cut well.
Nolan Randolph - tenacious defender, layout d's all over the
place. Has solid throws once he gets the turn.
Chris "Rowsdower" Larberg - Rowsdower is one of the fastest
players in the region, lanky and tall he typically matches
up against the Will Driscoll's or Matt Jackson's of your
team (AKA your best cutter).

OSU
Max Barawski - short but has great throws and can get up.
Unfortunately has been plagued with injuries all year.
Corey Egan - Main handle for OSU, good hucks.
Bryan Downey - Definitely OSU's best player, played for
space city this past club season. Very fast, great throws,
knows how to cut well.

St. Louis
Max Morgan

UNT
Zach Riggins - Has played for both DW and Plex, FoTY in '09.
Like brooks said, not as well known as k-rich and others,
still the same caliber player. Heard he likes to DJ more
than play ultimate.
Darius Tse

Central Arkansas
Jarrod Hockett - Has been a driving force in the UCA team
getting better, he is there main handle and captain.

All Region
Matt Jackson - Arkansas
Jimmy Mickle - Colorado
Will Driscoll - Texas
Matt Bennett - A&M
Vinny C - Kansas
Zach Riggins - UNT



Kevin "Falkor" Christian
OU Captain

Matt Costello

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Apr 18, 2012, 1:10:04 PM4/18/12
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Willw, when I read that last night I actually was eating
pizza and cheesy bread haha

beez

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Apr 18, 2012, 7:35:22 PM4/18/12
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It seems that a lot of people on here are voting for names
instead of their actual impact on the field. I've noticed
daka getting some nods and that guy is the worst spirited
player I've ever seen. Several names from texas, but there's
no way more than Will makes the cut. I haven't seen much
from the bama section, so this will be predominantly Ozarks,
texas, and colorado.

Colorado:
Obviously Mickle

Kansas:
Vinny- guy flat out balls

Missouri:
ryan-hucks and skies for days
Jay (tall blonde)- heard it was his first year playing and
that guy can get up and get the disc.

Arkansas:
Abe- throws wherever he wants
Maybe Matt J, but he doesn't seem to be the high impact
player he was in the doege era

OU:
Blonde handler that basically holds their team together

SLU:
Max Morgan- try and stop his low release flick

K-state:
Camo

Texas:
Driscoll- offense run through him

danny

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Apr 18, 2012, 8:59:15 PM4/18/12
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If we're talking FOTY Matt Hudspith #26 from K-State
probably deserves mention.

He was the #2 guy (behind Austin Walker) for the defending
Texas state champs Marcus High
http://www.usaultimate.org/news/2011-texas-hs-states-awards/
and I can personally guarantee he has come a long way since
his high school days

Matt has been a huge part of K-State's D-line this year by
creating huge D's in crucial games. He is a solid cutter
with good throws and understands the flow of the game. You
can expect to see big things from him as we head to
regionals this year.

Matt Hudspith

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Apr 18, 2012, 8:59:35 PM4/18/12
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Missouri:
ryan-hucks and skies for days
Jay (tall blonde)- heard it was his first year playing and
that guy can get up and get the disc.

That Jay guy for Missouri is an definitely an athlete, but
he still has a lot to learn about the game.

Taylor Stamps

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Apr 18, 2012, 10:55:03 PM4/18/12
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Any South Central DIII Love?

Clearly Harding is the best of the group. Can anyone usurp
HU:apocalypse's dominance in the SC DIII Conference?

Does reigning National third place winner, Miner Threat,
have enough experience to make a push to Appleton?

Also, any word on Air Force and their mysterious absence
from the SC DIII CCs Score Reporter page? Did they go DI?

Jarrod Hockett

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Apr 19, 2012, 12:54:12 AM4/19/12
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Okay serious posts. A lot of names have been covered here,
so I'll just comment on a couple and post the others that I
wouldn't have any problem with receiving votes (from Ozarks,
so probably pretty heavy on that section).

Kansas:
Vinny
Hidaka
-both guys are tremendously talented and i hate to say it
but kansas was at least fun to watch from the sideline.
complete disregard for spirit, but both vinny and daka are
playmakers.

K-State:
Cameron Hunter- great guy, great player. he's the guy we
aimed to shut down all game and deservedly so.

Arkansas:
Abe Coffin- former FOTY but this kid can do it. he's got
throws for days.
Matty J- super athletic. his names been here before.
Matt Kearney - another great athlete with tough D.
Karl Doege - 10 years running best in the south.

WashU has a roster full of solid players but i don't know
any names. sorry.

Mizzou:
Matt Francis - if Mizzou plays like they did early season,
they could pull an upset at regionals. Francis will be a
huge part in that happening.
The tall blonde kid with long hair that someone told me was
a freshman. every time i looked over at their fields at
sectionals, he was putting his nuts in someone's face. if he
was a freshman i'd def vote him 2nd team FOTY.

OU:
Kevin Christian - Falkor can ball. It's a shame they didn't
make regionals after losing in the GTG last year, but Kevin
was the reason they even had a shot at sectionals. nothing
goes through that team successfully unless it's through
him.

OSU:
Bryan Downey - probably fastest person in the section,
possibly the region.
Max Barowski - plays hard every point and makes some
highlight plays of his own.

SLU:
Max Morgan - favorite person i guarded all of sectionals.
his flick hucks are money.

Central Arkansas (i'm incredibly biased, bear with me):
Jeff Rehm - grad student. helped me start this team 3 years
ago and we wouldn't have won a game this season if he
weren't making big plays downfield.


Texas:
Driscoll - obvious choice. watch any tape of Texas and
you'll see he runs that show.
the other Will
A. Yerrapragada

The whole colorado/wyoming region:
Jimmy Mickle: like someone said earlier, best puller in the
college game? doesn't matter if CU is having a "down" year,
Mickle is a stud.
I don't know anyone from any of the other teams this year.
sorry.

Texas State:
Austin Walker- all jokes aside, he's the hands down FOTY.
the stats from every tournament state played this year show
that he has his hands in nearly 40% of every time they
score. he's got some of the best upwind throws i've seen and
ignoring all the offensive stats, he's a defensive
specialist. oh he also lead his dallas winter league team to
a championship on a torn ACL. FOTY 2012.

UNT:
Zach Riggins - it's a shame he has to handle due to
necessity, because he's in the running for best cutter in
this region.
Darius Tse- darius is black and these nominations need to be
less racist. but also darius is damn good and has made
incredible plays for years at UNT.

A&M:
Matt Bennett - he and abe coffin are going to be the best
handlers on this list for the next few years. he's got some
insane throws especially that damn scoober.
there's two other guys who stood out when we played them but
i don't remember their names so those other two guys. sorry
for being incredibly awful at this.

Harding:
Taren - super quick handler who runs the give and go like a
boss.
TS
harding should get some love. this team is stout and are the
clear favorites for DIII champs.

All Region:
Jimmy Mickle - Colorado
Will Driscoll - UT
Zach Riggins - UNT
Kevin Christian -OU
Taren Goins - Harding
Cameron Hunter - K-State
Matt Bennett - A&M

Jarrod Hockett - Central Arkansas captain.

Paul Utesch

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Thank you for bringing up Darius. All-region awards are
all-encompassing (spirit, leadership, skill, etc.) and
beyond being an excellent player... he also comes out and
helps the ladies team quite a bit. That speaks a lot to his
character.

Austin

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Apr 19, 2012, 10:40:05 AM4/19/12
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I honestly can only say I've watched Ozarks, but I've
watched them both at conference and at Free State. Here's
who I think

KU
Vinny
Joe Young- From Watching them, joe might not make the
biggest plays, but he's vital to the team's success. Solid
handle play all the way around

Kstate
Camo- Plays some pretty sweet D. Gets a little turn over
happy though with his hucks from time to time.

Mizzou
Matt Francis
Ryan- These two guys are the anchor of their team. I'm
pretty sure between the two of them they've sat out 45
points all season. Mizzou is a good team this season and
they're the big reason why.

Arkansas
Abe
Matt Jackson
Kearney- Pretty much everything has been said about these
3

Oklahoma-
Falcor- Solid lefty handle. Team lived and died by his
decision making.

OK State-
Max B. 5th Year Grad student. Huge throws and huge ups for
not a large guy

SLU
Max Morgan- Huge array of breaks. Focal point of the SLU
team for the last 5 years.
Doug Richardson- All Region Nominee from Wash U last year.
Vital to every win SLU had this year. Dislocated Shoulder
in the KU game forced him into a cutter role. Where he
excelled and helped SLU take half. KU took the second half
by virtually double teaming Doug and forcing the young SLU
kids to step up.
Pat Porter- Unfortunately forced into a handle role this
season due to injuries and missing handles at conference.
Fast cutter with an unstoppable motor. Rarely sits points.
Most always High spirited.

Doc

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Apr 19, 2012, 11:55:05 AM4/19/12
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Only team I haven't seen play is Colorado, but I'll trust
everyone's opinion on this.

All Region
Abe Coffin - Arkansas
Jimmy Mickle - Colorado
Will Driscoll - Texas
Matt Bennett - A&M
Vinny C - Kansas
Zach Riggins - UNT


Those 7 right there would be a pretty nasty line. Probably
could of taken 3rd from the South Open last year. No
disrespect to Tanasi.

We're getting closer to 100 but just posting all-region
chatter isn't going to get us there. We need a new topic to
keep the convo rolling. Any ideas? Will you could troll for
a few lines and see what we can get going. Or we could talk
about the NBA Western Conference and playoff predictions.

Jarrod Hockett

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Apr 19, 2012, 12:05:04 PM4/19/12
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Doctor wrote on Thu, 19 April 2012 10:53
only putting 6 people in your all region. savvy vet move to
get at least another 2 posts.

BJones

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Apr 19, 2012, 12:12:30 PM4/19/12
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Just spell someone's name wrong. You'll never hear the end of it.

Jammy Melkle

Doc

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jhockett1 wrote on Thu, 19 April 2012 09:03
Ahh, good catch.

Yetti (Matt) or Carson Ryan from A&M would have to be my
7th. Yetti can shut down just about anyone and I've yet to
see someone who can stop Carson from getting open at will.

NoLookSpelling

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Apr 19, 2012, 1:26:39 PM4/19/12
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Andre Bonjeri of Tuff should also be in this conversation

toucan sam

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Apr 19, 2012, 2:12:46 PM4/19/12
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Doctor wrote on Thu, 19 April 2012 12:56
> Yetti (Matt) or Carson Ryan from A&M would have to be my
> 7th. Yetti can shut down just about anyone and I've yet to
> see someone who can stop Carson from getting open at will.


So who wins when Yetti guards Carson?

bobby

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Apr 19, 2012, 2:20:03 PM4/19/12
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okc over the spurs in 6 followed by okc over the heat in 7

Taren28

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Apr 19, 2012, 2:36:16 PM4/19/12
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How bout some love for my boys at Harding? Won Huck Finn
pretty convincingly which is a good SC tournament. Have been
#1 in D-III all season long. Could have arguably won the
Ozark section if they weren't D-III. Could very possibly be
a top 5 team in the SC. Bold statements I know but I am
bias. My nomination from Harding would be Nick Doores.
Energetic player who leads the d-line. One of the fastest
guys you will have to guard and has some sick layouts. Loves
to make plays in the air.

I had a list of players typed out til it all got deleted. It
was mostly the same as everyone has mentioned. There is a
quick asian handler from WashU that might deserve a mention.
I might give the nudge to Abe Coffin over Matt Jackson. It
is a close call. Abe is one of the best players I have
played against this season.

Kevin Christian

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Apr 19, 2012, 3:00:04 PM4/19/12
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I truthfully haven't seen Harding play at all this year,
otherwise I would have mentioned someone.

Since we're trying to get to 100 posts, In other news the
AUDL teams are going through a bidding war for Austin
Walker's contract. Current highest bidder is the Rhode
Island Rampage with: 5 Victoria Secret Models, 1 2013 Kia
Optima(hybrid) and a $25,000 signing contract.

OneLap

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Apr 19, 2012, 5:08:34 PM4/19/12
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From the USAU History Books: these are all the past winners
that i know/believe are still playing (make of it what you
will)

2008 : Matt Jackson(FOTY)
2009: Matt Jackson(1st), Evan Winograd(FOTY), Zach
Riggins(FOTY #2)
2010: Matt Jackson(1st), Evan Winograd(1st), Zach
Riggins(2nd), Chris Brooks(FOTY), Will Driscoll(FOTY #2)
2011: Evan Winograd(1st), Will Campbell(1st),Will
Driscoll(1st), Jimmy Mickle(1st), Abe Coffin(FOTY)


Looks like Matt J took the Benjamin Button approach to
frisbee politics. Your vote can stop the cycle and save a
life.

Why no talk of "wino-"?

Whats with Matt Bennett throwing scoobers, i thought his
best throw was the 'meg. Whats the +/- on 'megs thrown
during the series?

Colorado http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B553JZGI1fw

Kevin Christian

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Apr 19, 2012, 5:25:04 PM4/19/12
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Winograd isn't playing this year from what I understand.

Bennett did meg Brodie Smith at club sectionals this past
year.

Austin

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2011: Max Morgan (2nd)

BrookDaves

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Apr 19, 2012, 7:45:04 PM4/19/12
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I'm calling return of the 2010-ers playing big in a couple
of weeks. Regionals in Austin is going to be a great
tournament. Good ol' fashioned South dogfight on
Sunday...not to mention the player matchups.

Mickle trying to shut down Driscoll going deep,
Chris Brooks (UT) putting some compressive handler D on
Mickle. 'Yetti' (ATM) playing big against Mickle (that
would have to happen for ATM to beat CU).
Zach Riggins (UNT) covering Driscoll - that would be a great
air battle.

Besides Winograd, those names from 2010 will be deserving of
All-Region. With two teams now, they should all be there.

Luke

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A little love for some Arkansas boys:

ARKANSAS:
-Any reports of MattyJ's demise or over-hyped-ness have been
greatly exaggerated. Everyone loved him a few years ago when
he was a one dimensional, insanely athletic receiver--the
thing is, he has now developed into a stellar all-around
player and leader who can still make the crazy athletic
plays. Definitely All-Region caliber.

-As is Abe Coffin. Ridiculous throws, good defender, good
athlete, hard to guard. At this point, I think he's a notch
below Matt (not as athletic, not as experienced, not quite
as smart a player), but as a sophomore, that's nothing to be
ashamed of.

-Kearney is an outstanding defender and a good cutter, but I
think he's a notch below All-Region.

HARDING:
Now that we have separate DI and DIII series, does it even
make sense to not have a separate DIII All-Region team?
Harding has had some great players for years, but they never
seem to get the recognition because it's a DIII school in
the middle of nowhere in Arkansas.

Thanks to the emergence of DIII Nationals, they're finally
starting to get a bit of attention, which is great, because
they have 5 players who could literally start for any team
in the Region:

-Taren Goins has already been mentioned; he's an excellent
handler and a really good all-around player. He actually
plays a whole lot like Abe with a ginger beard--great
throws, good receiver, good defender, some risky decisions
at times.

-Nick Doores is a stellar defender, cutter, and deep
receiver, and probably the best athlete on the team.

-Ryan Rummage started his career as an excellent cutter,
changed his game to be a handler because it's what the team
needed, and is now a great handler as well. A great leader
on and off the field, the glue guy that every team needs.

-Tucker Bankston is an offensive stud: great throws, great
cuts, great layouts. Another really athletic player.

-Tyler Samuel (TS) has been around long enough that a lot of
people around the Region know him. This is his last year and
he is still a great player. Somewhat like MattyJ, I feel
like some of the luster has worn off because he's not
constantly skying dudes anymore (Regionals vs. UNT circa
2009 anyone?), but it's just because his role has
changed--he's an excellent all-around player now, and has
done more over past 5 years to put Harding on the map as a
program than anyone else.

Obviously when limited to 14 players from the entire region
for a 1st and 2nd team, no way all of these guys get a nod,
but there are some great players in Arkansas that deserve
some recognition. Sorry to any great players from JBU, UCA,
or Hendrix that I may have missed.

Kevin Christian

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A&M beats texas 15-11 in the south texas sectional final.
http://twitter.com/#!/dozenultimate

yetti make sure you eat some pizza before regionals. It
looks like it worked for sectionals.

Kearney

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Apr 22, 2012, 9:16:40 PM4/22/12
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On Matt Jackson's (over)hyped-ness - Watch his throws. try
to stop one of them from going off. then try to defend him
when he doesn't have the disc. And after all that, watch him
take over games at regionals. He's not worried about your
votes, he's worried about taking his team to the highest
level during his 5th year, and he'll make that happen. I
guarantee it. Then We'll look at that callahan post ;)

We're eating our pizza now too, after that A&M win. This
region's coming in hot. too bad we couldnt do this a month
or two ago to get that 3rd bid..

Kevin Christian

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Apr 22, 2012, 9:55:05 PM4/22/12
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I feel like you guys took my poke at Matty J too seriously,
he fully deserves all region. Matty is one of the best
players in the region, if not the best.

Snowman

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Quote:
> DanK
> Messages: 3
> Registered: March 2011
> Location: Manhattan, KS
> Junior Member
> add to buddy list
> ignore all messages by this user
> If we're talking foty Matt Hudspith #26 from K-State
> probably deserves mention.
>
> He was the #2 guy (behind Austin Walker) for the
> defending Texas state champs Marcus High
> http://www.usaultimate.org/news/2011-texas-hs-states-awards/
> and I can personally guarantee he has come a long way
> since his high school days
>
> Matt has been a huge part of K-State's D-line this year
> by creating huge D's in crucial games. He is a solid
> cutter with good throws and understands the flow of the
> game. You can expect to see big things from him as we head
> to regionals this year.


Matt Hudspith is a great player but he was not the #2 player
on Austin Walkers team. The #2 player was actually "david
Na". He plays for the dominant Texas A&M. This outstanding
rookie plays chili offense and shutdown D (Austin Walker
taught him well). But unfortunatly he rides the Texas A&M
bench like a boss due to the other dominant freshman ginger
player named Daltom Smith. Dalton lays out for everything
and skies even the best players. Due to these truthful
statement it is clear. Dalton Smith should be the FOTY 2012
(Austin Walker is eligible due to torn ACL)

Snowman

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Snowman

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DanK wrote on Wed, 18 April 2012 17:47
Matt Hudspith is a great player but he was not the #2 player
on Austin walkers team. The #2 player was actually "David
Na". He plays for the dominant Texas A&M. This outstanding
rookie plays chili offense and shutdown D. But unfortunately
he rides the Texas A&M bench like a boss due to the other
dominat freshman, a ginger player named Dalton Smith. Dalton
lays out for everything and skies even the Best players. Due
to these truthful statement it is clear the Dalton Smith
should be FOTY 2012 (Austin Walker is not eligible due to
torn ACL)

Jarrod Hockett

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Apr 23, 2012, 1:55:04 AM4/23/12
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Austin Walker is INeligible because of a torn ACL? show me
where it says that in the rule book. Having played against
both players, Austin is the hands-down favorite.

I didn't know his name was Dalton but he is a very, very
good athlete. I guarded him for a good bit at HUX and he
made some super athletic plays (laid out from OOB to make a
grab in bounds. didn't count, but was sexy) and was a
fun-guard. I also really like David Na because he's asian
and good at calculus.

The high school team that had Austin, Matt and Na, as well
as a few other tremendous girls and guys was eerily good and
probably the best team in Texas HS history. But the anchor
to that team and to Texas State currently is AW.

Francis

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Apr 23, 2012, 2:15:04 AM4/23/12
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Awkward...okay, how about some players on Rice?

John

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South Texas sectionals in San Marcos proved to be full of
action and surprises. In the game to go Texas State played
solid to beat a young Lamar team. Lamar led by the handler
with the gloves was looking to run but were met by T-State
athletes Nick Whale and #6. It was a shame that FOTY Austin
Walker was unable to play.

In the finals we saw the one seed TUFF play the two seed
Texas A&M. These two teams were on another level from the
rest of the field and a finals rematch was inevitable.
After a tight game day one the finals looked to be a tossup.
A&M started the game off strong breaking TUFF the first two
points. After settling down TUFF started working their
offense through Will Driscoll. Will Driscoll was the best
player on the field for either team hands down. He was able
to get open as he pleased and once the disc was in his hands
there was not a place on the field he could not put the
disc. For A&M the offense was run through Matt Bennett. His
multiple release points allowed A&M to use the entire field
and really seemed to take TUFF out of their comfort zone.
TUFF tried many different combinations on the mark switching
to a half mark to try and prevent the around throw which was
really hurting them. With a chance to take the half TUFF
turned the disc over in the red zone which A&M capitalized
on and took half 8-7. This was a good time for TUFF coach
Calvin Lin to get his team refocused especially star
Driscoll. After a series of questionable calls by both sides
tempers were flaring and both teams play suffered. The first
half showcased a lot of what has already been said on this
thread Bennett scoobers and Driscoll domination. In the
second half the intensity levels were switched into a new
gear. Both teams' defenses were working really hard.
Downfield it was becoming more and more difficult to get
open. There were several times for both teams where the
stall count got high. This is where each team took a
different approach. It seemed that the A&M handlers had the
green light for huck blasts while the Texas team was told to
dump which often times resulted in the loss of 25 to 30
yards. The kid with red hair played huge for A&M both for
his D on Driscoll and his catches for scores. If TUFF was
going to battle back into the game someone needed to step
up. #57 for TUFF seemed up to the challenge and was able to
create great separation on all his cuts but just was not
enough. The turning point in the game seemed to be after a
turn over by A&M, TUFF picked up the disc on their own goal
line and attempted a swing which was lay out D'ed by an A&M
defender (pretty sure the A&M guy got concussed). A&M
scored there to make it 12-9 and just put the game out of
reach. The game would go on to end 15-11.

TUFF is as solid as all the hype says. A couple of the deep
shots didn't work out and they got punished for it. Does
Driscoll have what it takes to lead TUFF through an entire
weekend both physically and mentally? Can coach Calvin Lin
get the offense flowing again?

For A&M this weekend may have put them on people's radar.
Watching them play is one of the strangest sights (children
with swagger). They proved they have the legs to win but
also left the question of whether they have the maturity to
win consistently.

Overall it was great weekend of ultimate and it looks like
regionals is shaping up to be a good one.

lemmonderf

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jhockett1 wrote on Mon, 23 April 2012 01:50
> The high school team that had Austin, Matt and Na, as
> well as a few other tremendous girls and guys was eerily
> good and probably the best team in Texas HS history. But
> the anchor to that team and to Texas State currently is
> AW.



I think the best Texas youth team I've seen was the '09 Big
Spring boys, but the 2011 Marcus team is a close second.

Where can I purchase one of those Austin Walker FOTY trucker
hats?

Kevin Christian

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Apr 23, 2012, 10:35:04 PM4/23/12
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Only 3 were made, though if he wins we may get a couple more
made.

BrookDaves

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Marcus was NOT best team in Texas high school history. Big
City Boys - Knights of the Round Frisbee repping Big Spring,
West Texas were the best. Two-time champs and were
challenged only once during those years. The games were so
lopsided, even their spirit was called into question for
routing teams at their 2008 (first) championship.

Jarrod Hockett

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BrookDaves wrote on Mon, 23 April 2012 22:23
> Marcus was NOT best team in Texas high school history.
> Big City Boys - Knights of the Round Frisbee repping Big
> Spring, West Texas were the best. Two-time champs and
> were challenged only once during those years. The games
> were so lopsided, even their spirit was called into
> question for routing teams at their 2008 (first)
> championship.


Let me rephrase, because what I said was a bold claim and it
wasn't meant to be that way. I'm also a bit biased.

Marcus was really damn good.

Don't forget that Marcus played mixed, though. Although it
isn't necessary to do such, and it was a given that they'd
have at least one girl, usually two on the line, it's
impressive how well they did and the players that came off
that team. 3 have been mentioned for FOTY in this thread,
and one is arguably the best freshman softball player in the
NCAA right now. Wrong sport, I know. Just sayin.

Snowman

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Apr 24, 2012, 1:32:36 AM4/24/12
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Do I need to bring up my high school team ?

Matt Hudspith

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Brooks I am not disagreeing with you but do you think that
the Knight of the Round Frisbee were considered to be so
good was because there weren't any other teams that were
playing at the same level as them, or were they just at a
completely different level from everyone else?

Doc

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Apr 24, 2012, 12:10:04 PM4/24/12
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Dalton Smith from A&M "the red head kid" should definitely
be considered as this years FOTY. This is his first year to
ever play ultimate and the kid is a beast. He was covering
Driscoll whenever Yetti wasn't and had something like 5-6
scores vs Texas in the finals. He's still a little too
physical on the mark, but his athleticism is unreal. If
Austin Walker was playing this year I'd say he was the FOTY,
but if you saw Dalton play this past weekend and the impact
he had on the Finals game, I'd say he's atop the list.

theydontthinkitbelikeitis

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Apr 24, 2012, 12:25:34 PM4/24/12
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Stoppp. this is getting ridiculous. I dont really care, but
still, all of our high school teams would get rolled by
northern high school teams anyway.
That red head kid from a&m should get more FOTY talk if hes
guarding will driscoll as a freshman, Walker is good too,
but A&M's kid will be at regionals so we can just judge it
then.
Im more interested in the seedings of regionals anyway,
could be a mess.

Wes Axtell

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Apr 24, 2012, 2:54:35 PM4/24/12
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I was looking at bids and I can only get 13 right now,
someone help me out.
Ozarks-5
Rocky Mountain-3
North Texas-2
South Texas-3
That only adds up to 13, aren't there supposed to be 16?

Paul Utesch

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Apr 24, 2012, 3:05:04 PM4/24/12
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Texas-B will be there from the South Central developmental
conference, and There will be 2 from South Central D-3. NOt
sure who is accepting the bids yet.

Paul Utesch

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I just started looking at seeding possibilities... That's
going to be tough now with A&M over Texas.

A&M might be top seed. Texas beat Colorado at Centex, so
Texas should be seeded above Colorado. So what, 1. A&M, 2.
Texas 3. Colorado 4. Kansas? Kansas is a tough one to seed
too. Mostly strong finishes, not a lot of tougher teams
played. I'm going to put a little thought into this and see
where it goes. Feel free to debate.

1. A&M
2. Texas Rank 10
3. Colorado - Rank 11
4. Kansas - Rank 42
5. Kansas State - No ranking (Wins over Texas-B, Baylor,
Kansas, Wash U, and Arkansas. Losses almost don't matter)
6. Arkansas - Rank 39 (Lost to Tex A&M, North Texas back in
February, lost to Kansas and K-State at cc.)
7. Harding - Rank 47 (Another tough one)
8. Missouri - Rank 51 (a few hot wins would have put them
higher, but they finished behind CC competition)
9. Colorado College Rank 82
10. Wash U - Rank 54 (It's really weird, I want to put them
over Colorado College based on ranking, but my instincts
won't let me.)
11. Colorado State - Rank 66 (Beat Texas Arlington, Baylor,
Wash U 2x, Lost to Arkansas, Harding, K State in Feb,
Colorado and Colorado College at CC)
12 Texas State - Rank 85 ( Based it on ranking)
13. North Texas - Rank 105 (Has split wins with Colorado
College, Beat Arkansas and Tex State in Feb, I left this one
up to rankings. This is a tougher one as I know their
tourney attendance has been spotty.)
14. Baylor - Rank 79
15. Texas B - Rank 113 (Beat Texas Arlington. Lost to North
Texas, Baylor, A&M, and K-State)
16. Texas-Arlington - Rank 214(just found out Hendrix
declined Regionals bid, they are in. 1 win over North Texas
CC pool, lost to them in champ bracket. Lost to Texas B.
Lost to Harding and Colorado State in February.)

bobby

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Apr 24, 2012, 5:35:04 PM4/24/12
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do the 4 top seeds come from the winners of sectionals?

ozarku...@gmail.com

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Apr 24, 2012, 6:08:55 PM4/24/12
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A good first stab at seedings. I think the parity of this year makes it hard to seed and there are going to be upsets no matter where teams get put.

Other things to consider:

1. Harding is most likely going to turn down their bid due to graduation.
2. Colorado State beat Washington University twice at Free State. Both were close, one was due in part to a called timeout in hard-cap.
3. If the Div III bid moves to another conference who gets it (III.B.3.b.2.a.ii and III.B.3.e contradict) Is it the Ozarks/Oklahoma? If they come, they could be a dark horse. Probably get put in somewhere around the #11 seed.
4. How was Texas State's win over North Texas in the lightning shortened Mardi Gras?

BrookDaves

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Apr 24, 2012, 6:35:08 PM4/24/12
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A few things:

1) The level of high school frisbee is now higher, most
notably disc skills. Marcus just didn't have the athletes
that Big City had. It is cool they have some players now
that are mentioned in FOTY talk. Big Spring only has one of
those - Chris Brooks FOTY 1st team 2010.

2) Colorado will probably get top seed. 2-4 ATM, Texas,
Kansas. UNT's rank is atrocious (worst in seven-year
history) but they did beat Ark and split with ColoCollege.
I'm not saying they should be high, but around 7-11.

3) ATM beat UT at Sectionals, that's pretty huge, hasn't
happened in a long time (almost a decade). Last time UT
lost at Sectionals (12-7 to UNT in '08) they came back and
won the region, along with UNT taking the second bid. ATM
better have their minds right to prepare mentally to win the
back-door if something similar happens. Colorado better not
sleep on anyone in the top 5 too.

Jarrod Hockett

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Apr 24, 2012, 7:40:04 PM4/24/12
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Looks like both of the D-3 bids were dropped and probably
will be taken by UTA and OU. now we can accurately predict
seedings.

theydontthinkitbelikeitis

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Apr 24, 2012, 7:41:42 PM4/24/12
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First of endless, thanks for the input and good stuff
knowing about UTA. And i agree with the top three mostly
because its the best way to take Head to head into effect.
since texas beat colorado they should be ahead and then a&m
should be 1st just cuz they are CC champs and they are split
with Texas. A&M beat Harding pretty easy at hendrix and
without a full roster, so they may be overseeded(though i
think they are pretty good). i may actually go as far as to
switch tstate and harding. Tstate will be surprsingly good,
they played tuff 13-11 and have some good height, so they
could be darkhorses, and Harding doesnt have the numbers i
dont think. Other than that, I think that looks pretty
solid.

Paul Utesch

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Apr 24, 2012, 8:15:04 PM4/24/12
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I went A&M, Texas, Colorado at 1,2,3 instead of Colorado,
A&M, Texas because of Texas's win over Colorado at Centex.
I do believe Colorado is the stronger team, but I'm not sure
how the coordinators are going to look at that. For that
same reason, I switched North Texas and Colorado State.
Knowing North Texas, I know that they are much better than
their rankings and results show. If they bring their A game
to regionals, they will be causing some upsets. I also took
into consideration North Texas's higher finish at Big D
little d, and North Texas's one win over Colorado College,
who has beat Colorado State. Revised:

1. A&M
2. Texas Rank 10
3. Colorado - Rank 11
4. Kansas - Rank 42
5. Kansas State - No ranking
6. Arkansas - Rank 39
7. Missouri - Rank 51
8. Wash U - Rank 54
9. Colorado College Rank 82
10. Oklahoma - Not ranked (Wins over North Texas, better
tournament finishes at Big D little d and free state over
Colorado State.)
11. North Texas - Rank 105
12 Texas State - Rank 85
13. Colorado State - Rank 66
14. Baylor - Rank 79
15. Texas B - Rank 113
16. Texas-Arlington - Rank 214

Paul Utesch

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Apr 24, 2012, 8:45:05 PM4/24/12
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South Central has women in it too. True story. 1-5 are
based on Rankings and CC finish. 10-12 based on CC finish.
The 6-8 are a little tricky. Missouri State and Texas A&M
aren't ranked, and the three don't have much for common
opponents. Colorado State did beat Colorado at some
tournament, and Colorado beat Tex A&M at Centex, but I don't
feel easy about trusting that. Number 9. Well, you never
know with number 9. I heard their coach makes them fight
pitbulls for training.

1. Texas
2. Colorado College
3. Washington University
4. Rice
5. Colorado
6. Missouri State (Better finish at Midwest TD than Colorado
State)
7. Texas A&M (Higher RRI than Colorado state)
8. Colorado State
9. North Texas (Recent win over Oklahoma, higher ranking)
10. Oklahoma
11. Kansas
12. St Louis

Paul Utesch

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Apr 24, 2012, 8:50:04 PM4/24/12
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theydontthinkitbelikeitis wrote on Tue, 24 April 2012
16:11
> Tstate will be surprsingly good, they played tuff 13-11
> and have some good height, so they could be darkhorses


I think it's pretty tough figuring out Texas State and North
Texas for sure. North Texas's results aren't very
reflective of their true strength, and Texas State is
without Austin now... I almost think nothing is going to
give as clear of a picture as regionals will. :?

Austin Walker

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Apr 24, 2012, 9:08:02 PM4/24/12
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ozarkultimate wrote on Tue, 24 April 2012 15:08
> 4. How was Texas State's win over North Texas in the
> lightning shortened Mardi Gras?


Texas State never even saw the field against UNT at Mardi
Gras. State lost to UNT on universe at Big D in Little D
15-14. At Mardi Gras a week later we were supposed to play
them on Sunday after the rain had cleared the day before but
I was told that they didn't want to play, so we won by
default. Someone from North Texas, however,later told me
that Texas State had said THEY didn't want to play so UNT
left. I don't know really know what happened there at all so
I'm just gonna say that we never played UNT.

theydontthinkitbelikeitis

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Apr 24, 2012, 9:08:21 PM4/24/12
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OU. time to rise like a phoenix from the ashes

Tim Kefalas

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Apr 24, 2012, 11:45:06 PM4/24/12
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Seedings mostly seem accurate to me. My take with my general
justifications below.

1) Texas A&M
2) Texas
3) Colorado
4) Kansas
5) KState
6) Arkansas
7) Colorado College
8) Missouri
9) Colorado State
10) Wash U
11) North Texas
12) Texas State
13) Oklahoma
14) Baylor
15) Texas-B
16) Texas-Arlington

Let me make this clear, that I do no believe this is in any
way shape or form the way that regionals will end. I believe
that Oklahoma and North Texas could potentially be
dramatically underseeded, but the simple matter is as
follows:

You don't get the benefit of the doubt anymore. We get this
regular season and this regular season ranking system to
make this kind of stuff based on numbers more than on
anything else, and the fact of the matter is, is that those
teams did not perform well enough during the season to
fairly warrant a higher seed. But again let me say, I
wouldn't be surprised to see upsets up and down the board. I
think Oklahoma at a 13 seed is very low, heck Arlington at a
16 seed could be dangerous.

In the end, I'm mostly excited because I think there is a
very high amount of parity, and I think it's going to be a
very competitive weekend in Austin.

dan nonjax

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Apr 25, 2012, 8:40:06 AM4/25/12
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You need 4 more posts to reach 100...

make that 3.

whollymop

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Apr 25, 2012, 10:25:33 AM4/25/12
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endless wrote on Tue, 24 April 2012 13:48
> I just started looking at seeding possibilities...
> That's going to be tough now with A&M over Texas.
>
> A&M might be top seed. Texas beat Colorado at Centex,
> so Texas should be seeded above Colorado. So what, 1.
> A&M, 2. Texas 3. Colorado 4. Kansas?


I agree. The whole purpose of playing the regular season and
going to big tournaments like Centex is to beat good teams
and increase your rank. You can't take away Texas' win over
Colorado just because they lost the finals at CC. They
worked hard to get that win over Colorado and they did it so
they would have a higher seed going into regionals. As
regrettable as it is, A&M beat Texas and the seeding you
have is right.

1. A&M
2. Texas
3. Colorado
4. Kansas

Then you question Kansas? Kansas won when it mattered the
most, regardless of what happened in the regular season.
Maybe they had some people injured and they got it together
right before CC. That's why we have CC, to take all the
guess-work out of where teams should be seeded.

bobby

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Apr 26, 2012, 12:55:04 PM4/26/12
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any thoughts on format? ive seen some regions with 2 bids go
bracket, while other have pool play, I guess it is the
choice of the td.
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