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Dave

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Apr 15, 2009, 4:38:28 PM4/15/09
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I've seen very few of the Metro East team's this year. Who are the
players to watch for at Regional's in two weeks?

I assume that Chris Brenenborg from Pitt is still there and worthy of
some chatter. Sean Keegan is a fun player to watch with his
athelticism, but Delaware won't be at regionals. Sam "Rico" Burnim
from Maryland is certainly an essential cog in the UMD machine. Who
makes Cornell go? Do Maryland or Pitt have any other names we need to
know? Anyone of note play for UPenn or Georgetown? How about Queen's
(has anyone made All-Region from a team that didn't get their roster
in on time?)? GW had a few players that looked very solid with the
disc this year when I saw them play, but like Delaware, didn't make
Regionals.

Metro East Regionals will have a different look this year: Drexel and
Georgetown making Regionals for the first time ever? Towson for the
first time since 2004 and American for the first time in recent
memory, if not ever. (American took the bid vacated when West Penn
dropped two teams prior to this weekend's sectionals, thus costing
their Section a bid to Regionals)

If Pittsburgh wins their section, who gets the #1 seed at Regionals:
Pitt or Cornell? Cornell has wins over Brown, Virginia, Middlebury
and Central Florida, and Pittsburgh has W's over Harvard, Illinois,
UCSB, and Stanford. Toss in that Pitt's qualified for national's the
past 4(?) seasons, and that's edge Pittsburgh, me thinks.

BJones

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Apr 15, 2009, 4:53:39 PM4/15/09
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I didn't see any particular player that made Cornell "tick" at
sectionals. This could easily be because of the easy time they had at
sectionals.

Vatz

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Apr 15, 2009, 5:37:44 PM4/15/09
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On Apr 15, 4:38 pm, Dave <TUFris...@aol.com> wrote:
> If Pittsburgh wins their section, who gets the #1 seed at Regionals:
> Pitt or Cornell?  Cornell has wins over Brown, Virginia, Middlebury
> and Central Florida, and Pittsburgh has W's over Harvard, Illinois,
> UCSB, and Stanford.  Toss in that Pitt's qualified for national's the
> past 4(?) seasons, and that's edge Pittsburgh, me thinks.

Pitt also has a win over Brown.

keg

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Apr 15, 2009, 6:44:16 PM4/15/09
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it is in fact Drexel's first trip to regionals. I'm curious to see
how the remaining regionals spots are filled out. any
prognostications?

- keg
Drexel Co-Captain

BJones

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Apr 15, 2009, 6:52:31 PM4/15/09
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I'm guessing Pitt and Bucknell take the two spots at West Penn. I was
impressed with NYU's team, and then I think the other two spots could
be up for grabs within the next four seeds in metro NJ/NY.

Geb

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Apr 15, 2009, 6:57:05 PM4/15/09
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I'm sticking by my thought of Metro NY being the most competitive
section in the series. There is no outstanding team that I would say
is a definite "lock" to go to regionals. I think every team from
seeds 1-7 have a legit chance to advance.

JephB

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Apr 15, 2009, 7:07:57 PM4/15/09
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because they are all terrible is the end of that sentence.

-JB

dsto...@gmail.com

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Apr 15, 2009, 8:16:47 PM4/15/09
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On Apr 15, 7:07 pm, JephB <FreeRonArt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> because they are all terrible is the end of that sentence.
>
> -JB

I will absolutely agree that MNY is probably the only section where
there are no nationals contenders, but the statement that all of the
teams are terrible is kind of harsh. I think East Penn is a much
worse section overall. Nice punchline though, Jeph. The only teams
in this thread worth talking about are Cornell, Pitt, Maryland, and
maybe one or two others.

3jane.

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Apr 15, 2009, 8:34:22 PM4/15/09
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On Apr 15, 7:07 pm, JephB <FreeRonArt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> because they are all terrible is the end of that sentence.

So I'm curious, which teams in the ME did you play against this year
that were terrible? Care to name any players who really sucked?

courtn...@gmail.com

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Apr 15, 2009, 8:45:27 PM4/15/09
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As an avid prognosticator (awesome word, btw) of the college series,
by virtue of having no life, I'm agreeing with the statement about
West Penn (Pitt and Bucknell) and making some further predicitions for
Metro NY... I say NYU, TCNJ (they're looking super strong this year),
and Princeton with the upset.

Court.

JephB

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Apr 15, 2009, 9:02:14 PM4/15/09
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Well ok, you got me

That Greg Owens kid is pretty awesome.

I was just trying to cover it up, so no one would see him coming, but
now i have reviled the secret.

-JB

dsto...@gmail.com

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Apr 15, 2009, 9:09:11 PM4/15/09
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Greg who? I have no idea who you're talking about. Must be a PADA
kid. Certainly not the type of player you build your team around.

Johnny Chimpo

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Apr 15, 2009, 9:34:11 PM4/15/09
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His vert is pretty nasty...for someone lugging a grand piano on his
back. Seriously though it's gonna be NYU vs. TCNJ in the finals.
Revolution pulls off the upset if we get inside of NYU's coach's
head. Rumor has it he can't take the heckling.

Tyler McGinnis

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Apr 15, 2009, 10:00:38 PM4/15/09
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I'll contribute to this by saying that it's rough (but fair by the
system) that the West Penn only gets two bids. Obviously we're not
banging out nationals contenders (except for Pitt) but we do have
solid teams that can hang at Regionals and it's definitely going to be
a dog fight (that I'm pretty excited to watch) for that second bid to
get there. I guess we'll see who has peaked at the right time.

Tyler
Penn State-B

P.S. #26 on Penn State-B is just scary. Sick puts, makes catches (and
cuts) he has no business making, and has no regard for his body. I
also heard he's an avid disc golfer. J.Shpil for All-Everything.

bill b

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Apr 15, 2009, 10:08:20 PM4/15/09
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This is the first year American has made it to regionals.

#42, tall kid, yellow hat. His name is John Geraghty.

-Bill
American #7

chrisn...@gmail.com

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Apr 15, 2009, 10:14:13 PM4/15/09
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Back to the original topic. Maryland looked really solid at
sectionals, didnt have much of a challenge though. I didnt watch any
of their "close" games but im sure along with Sam Burnim, Reuban,
Freddy, and the other Rubin will be holding it down and will be in the
competition for that second spot to regionals. I played club with one
of the cornell guys, kantor, and he's a hell of an athlete, not sure
about any of the others on that team. I predict Pitt takes the 1st bid
and Cornell and UMD fighting it out for the 2nd bid with Cornell
taking it. As far as seeding goes, here's my take:
1. Pitt
2. Cornell
3. UMD
4. Edinboro (they take the second bid from the west penn)
5. Penn
6. Carleton University (could switch with Penn)
7. Georgetown
8. NYU
9. Towson
10. Lehigh
11. RPI
12. American
13. Princeton (2nd bid from ny/nj)
14. Drexel
15. Hofstra (3rd bid from ny/nj)
16. SUNY- Buffalo

Those are only my thoughts though. I admit that im wrong a lot.

Chris
Towson Pandamonium

dsto...@gmail.com

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Apr 15, 2009, 10:23:45 PM4/15/09
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The seeding has to be reflective of finish at sectionals. Carleton
cannot be seeded above RPI and Lehigh cannot be seeded above Drexel.
Also, I think the whole idea of even trying to seed regionals with
only 11 of the 16 teams receiving bids so far is stupid. No one has
any idea how the five remaining bids are going to play out and as
stated before, finish at sectionals is the most important factor in
determining seeding.

chrisn...@gmail.com

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Apr 15, 2009, 10:31:29 PM4/15/09
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thank you for your input. i didnt even bother checking the placement,
but its not like the RC will take my thoughts or even your thoughts
into account when doing seeding.

dsto...@gmail.com

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Apr 15, 2009, 10:34:55 PM4/15/09
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Haha of course not. But if we're going to have discussions about
hypothetical seedings, they should at least be plausible.

BJones

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Apr 15, 2009, 10:47:45 PM4/15/09
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RPI is a solid team with a couple of key guys but they really do it
with team defense. It's Buffalo second year at Regionals (this and
2007), and we are trying change the culture. There's no doubt we have
a lot of work to do, but we've got some athletes coming up.

chrisn...@gmail.com

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Apr 15, 2009, 10:50:26 PM4/15/09
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yeah but in reality, the top 3 are pretty ahead of everyone else. they
are the only ones that matter, in my opinion, which was just proven to
be faulty haha.

Train Wreck

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Apr 15, 2009, 11:04:03 PM4/15/09
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I definitely think that the top three seeds (and maybe fourth and
fifth seeds) are going to be the most important, and I am definitely
looking forward to watching some games when I'm given the time. I
would not rule out a team like RPI though, they may have been out of
sight in the past, but I think they will be a high level regionals
team soon.

-Zack Smith
SUNY-Buffalo Co-Captain

Eddie Peters

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Apr 16, 2009, 12:13:10 AM4/16/09
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Good, a thread I've been waiting for all season, Metro East hype. Let
me say, nice intro dude.

Now, seeing as here at Pitt we've got a limit for posting on r.s.d. at
2, I can't go spreading myself all thin and such posting here and
everywhere, so I usually reserve myself for the All Region topics and
I usually make 'em good and long.

To begin, I'd like to close the distance between the Pitt and the rest
of the ME. It really pains me seeing our team getting so little love;
I know we've only played two Metro East teams this season (Penn State
and Rutgers), but I'd like for anyone that reads this thread to know
who we are, a little bit more than just the names on the roster. Some
face time on the following link, compliments of our blogging sophomore
Andrej:

http://iplayultimate.blogspot.com/2009/04/face-of-pitt-ultimate.html

On to other things:

I love how quickly these threads blow up.

As far as I know, Keegan has never lost a game at any Regionals, club
or college. Way to keep the streak alive, buddy!

I believe as far as predictions and strength go, hardly enough games
were played this season by anyone. Quite a few teams got messed up by
the weather. The remainder of Sectionals and especially Regionals
will be hosted in Upset City because of this.

For my section, I won't predict anything. Two bids is pretty rough
for what I think is a competitive section. I will say there is a
sweet bet riding on Penn State, and they "bagged" our game at
Terminus. And also, Bucknell beat Edinboro once it's true, but I
blame myself as I got Taft too drunk the night before to play more
than two points. Missing Kurtis (my bad, really, a problem I have
with listening, best wishes) and Dick (who's playing through his
injury I hear), and Tad working on two hours sleep didn't help matters
either. We'll see if they can do it again, they looked solid, if
totally reliant on Dash + Thrower Guy counts as solid, when they were
coming back on Penn State at Spring Phling, and not so solid when they
were losing big to Penn State. For them, depends on which side shows
up I guess. But seriously, I'm rooting for Edinboro.

Seeds should go,
Pitt
Cornell
Maryland
Penn
Others TBA

I think Art Shull is one cog that makes Cornell tick a little, but...
sometimes his hands cost his team in big situations. Whoever said
that last year is plain dumb. If he's healthy, and I hope he is, look
for Art to lead his team. Other than that, I don't know much, I think
they run pretty deep with a few transfers and a lot of small club
experience. They seem to have an overly tall team with a propensity
for hucking and getting injured. I hear they also asked specifically
not to play us at Roll Call; that is, before they bailed entirely.
Lame.

I wouldn't count out Penn either, but maybe that's because I'll have
to play them by this seeding.

Now that you've gotten some face time (above), names to look out for
on Pitt:

All Region Candidates:
# 41 Pat Hammonds
O line cutter, Senior, nordic beast, man's man

# 11 Nick Kaczmerak
D line cutter, Grad, Captain, the brain, like glue

# 2 Chris Brenenborg
O line starter (don't matter where), Junior, Captain, All Region
2008, 'nuff said

# 6 Chowder Baynes
O line hander,Junior, reminiscent of an Ewok, nasty disc skill

# 35 Jake Christian
D line handler, 5th year Senior, insane breaks, in your face
attitude, D runs through him or he runs through you (probably at the
same time)

Freshman of the Year Candidates:
Alex Thorne #21
Collin Connor #5
Tyler Degirolamo #81

A word about our Freshman, because I hate splitting FOTY votes between
our many studlettes. In terms of name recognition and skill, Alex
Thorne takes the cake. Deservedly so, he should be a lock for FOTY at
this point, starting O handler, Junior Worlds player, huge impact,
baller as hell. The only people that can take it away from him are
his own teammates. CC is a starting O cutter. He is a consistent and
mature presence out on the field. Works perfectly within our offense,
outworks almost everyone on our team, which is saying something. His
backhand break is so butter smooth. This kid has been ready to win
since the day he came to Pitt, and it shows. Tyler will start either
way, or just come in and dominate at any point. A true Freshman,
unlike Collin or Alex, he picked up the game scary fast. Don't throw
it up when he's around, a warning. He'll score all of our goals,
probably.

To the entire Metro East; as far as All Region goes, anyone else feel
Rob Dulabon not getting All Region was a TRAVESTY? If there was one
player on Pitt every player on Pitt would've given that award to
(including the players that got awarded, even in place of their own
award), it was him. Honestly, is there some way we can put his name
on a ballot this year?

Also, I still don't see the Freddy Tsai thing, maybe that's just me.
Maybe I'm just biased because I've seen the players Plunkett and
Julian grew into. Maybe I'm just mean to Freddy Tsai for no good
reason, who I've got nothing against besides his being on Maryland
instead of Pitt. Maybe I should've stopped talking about this a year
ago, but hey, I back my teammates.

Geb

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Apr 16, 2009, 12:37:19 AM4/16/09
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Like I said earlier, there is no outstanding team in our
section...meaning they're mostly of equal caliber......also meaning
competitive. But thanks for trying to shit on our teams.

DanD.-TRUDGE #7 (RPI)

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Apr 16, 2009, 2:32:54 AM4/16/09
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On Apr 15, 6:52 pm, BJones <Alyan...@gmail.com> wrote:

It would be a shame if Edinboro wasn't at regionals, West Penn
probably deserves another bid or two, but I think Bucknell is going to
get shafted. Bucknell's probably a better team then at least three or
four teams that are already qualified but Edinboro is a really good
team and I don't think Bucknell will be able to beat them again.

My seeds (assuming Pitt, Edinboro, NYU, CNJ, and I'm going to go out
on a limb and say Rutgers make it)


1. Pitt
2. Cornell
3. UMD

4. Georgetown
5. Penn
6. Edinboro
7. NYU
8.RPI
9. Carleton University
10. Towson
11. American
12. Drexel
13. Lehigh
14. College of New Jersey
15. Rutgers
16. SUNY- Buffalo

Oh and are we seriously doing pools at regionals?

Geb

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Apr 16, 2009, 5:15:11 PM4/16/09
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So looks as if SUNY-Purchase has dropped and Metro NY only gets 2 bids
now. Going to make it more interesting

keg

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Apr 16, 2009, 5:36:15 PM4/16/09
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> So looks as if SUNY-Purchase has dropped and Metro NY only gets 2 bids
> now.  Going to make it more interesting

so who picks up the freshly vacated bid?

Message has been deleted

dsto...@gmail.com

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Apr 16, 2009, 7:51:40 PM4/16/09
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West Penn

Adam Dyer

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Apr 16, 2009, 8:00:59 PM4/16/09
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On Apr 16, 2:32 am, "DanD.-TRUDGE #7 (RPI)" <don...@rpi.edu> wrote:

It should be noted that Carleton U beat RPI in a game to go at
Sectionals (for the right to play Cornell in the title game). After
having both qualified, RPI then beat Carleton U in a grudge match for
2nd place. RPI has not played Cornell since last year at Sectionals
(which I have been told was a fairly competitive game).

As an RPI alum, it's nice to see them make it to Regionals and get a
modicum of respect.

Adam Dyer
RPI '05

Fantusta

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Apr 16, 2009, 8:51:21 PM4/16/09
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It should be noted that one of the three best teams in this region
isn't going to be at regionals.
</bitterness directed at no one in particular>

dsto...@gmail.com

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Apr 16, 2009, 9:12:02 PM4/16/09
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I never heard the whole story behind that. What was the reason behind
Queens' ineligibility?

MRB

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Apr 16, 2009, 9:21:30 PM4/16/09
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On Apr 16, 2:32 am, "DanD.-TRUDGE #7 (RPI)" <don...@rpi.edu> wrote:

Unfortunately, SUNY-Lameass dropped out of Metro-NY Sectionals,
leaving us with just two bids to regionals instead the three we had
this morning.

BJones

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Apr 16, 2009, 9:39:22 PM4/16/09
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Queen didn't get their rosters in on time... The registrar said it
wasn't their fault, meaning they didn't have a leg to stand on in
their appeal.

Melissa May

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Apr 16, 2009, 11:07:43 PM4/16/09
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So with the Metro-NY team dropping West Penn is back up to 3 bids?

scott kinney

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Apr 17, 2009, 2:03:40 AM4/17/09
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On Apr 16, 11:07 pm, Melissa May <mkm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So with the Metro-NY team dropping West Penn is back up to 3 bids?

Yes, West Penn now has 3 bids again. Bucknell also pulled together a B
team getting us back up to 15 teams

Alex Laws

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Apr 17, 2009, 9:49:47 AM4/17/09
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Was bucknell B one of the teams that dropped in the first place?

I don't really care, but i'm curious how you go about pulling a team
together after the roster deadline.

jeff.w...@gmail.com

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Apr 17, 2009, 10:02:41 AM4/17/09
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Bucknell B was originally on the team list and was only taken off
because of a miscommunication.

pearl...@gmail.com

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Apr 17, 2009, 10:05:00 AM4/17/09
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Wodatch smash!

Dave Branick (ME-O)

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Apr 17, 2009, 10:05:02 AM4/17/09
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> > Yes, West Penn now has 3 bids again. Bucknell also pulled together a B
> > team getting us back up to 15 teams
>
> Was bucknell B one of the teams that dropped in the first place?
>
> I don't really care, but i'm curious how you go about pulling a team
> together after the roster deadline.

Before this gets out of hand:

Earlier this week, West Penn had two teams say they weren't coming to
Sectionals: Bucknell-B and Gettysburg-B. Both were properly
registered by the roster deadline. Yesterday Bucknell-B contacted the
SC (who in turn contacted the RC, who then contacted UPA HQ) to say
that it turns out they would be able to field a team. Also yesterday,
Metro NY SC was contacted by SUNY-Purchase and told that they would
not be participating in Sectionals.

This took Metro NY down to 2 bids, and kept West Penn at 3 bids, with
the extra bid allocated to Colonial. Of course, if teams do not post
at Sectionals this weekend, the bid allocation will be adjusted, so
nothing is quite set in stone yet.

Dave Branick
ME Open CRC

Alex Laws

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Apr 17, 2009, 10:44:52 AM4/17/09
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On Apr 17, 10:02 am, jeff.woda...@gmail.com wrote:

figured it was something like that.

Andrew MacEwan

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Apr 17, 2009, 12:51:48 PM4/17/09
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Hypothetically can a team loose it's bid to regionals after it has
been awarded one? If SUNY Purchase or Vassar B were to somehow go to
Metro NY sectionals could American loose out? I know that a section
can't loose a bid to regionals after they have completed sectionals if
a team drops from another section, but is the same true for a team
adding at the last minute also true?

Andrew RPI #4

Jonesey

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Apr 17, 2009, 1:53:19 PM4/17/09
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Queen's didn't get the rosters in on time but there were a few reasons
behind it. Our exam period is all of April (since Canadian schools
end earlier) and many players' exams were at the same time as
Sectionals. Right up until the day before the rostering deadline, we
only had 6 people that could attend because of conflicts. As well,
it's school policy that exams cannot be moved due to Athletic reasons,
so we were begging professors to help us out. Finally, on the day
before, we convinced a final prof and we had enough players. We then
quickly, by the deadline, did all online stuff and UPA received all
documentation the following week. We did not submit everything
earlier because it looked like we couldn't play. Foolish error now
that we look back at it.

We applied for an extension (on time) on the basis that school policy
on athletics and exams gave us issues with fielding a team. We
thought this was enough, until a week later we received more
information from the UPA that it could only be granted if it's the
Registrar's fault. Obviously, this was not the case and it was
rejected.

So it was not a simple case of missing the deadline. There were some
extenuating circumstances that should have been considered but weren't.

Rufus.K...@gmail.com

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Apr 17, 2009, 11:49:03 PM4/17/09
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> So it was not a simple case of missing the deadline.  There were some
> extenuating circumstances that should have been considered but weren't.

Unfortunately stupidity does not count as an "extenuating
circumstance". On the bright side you can now claim to be in the
region's top three.

Kirby

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Apr 18, 2009, 2:59:18 AM4/18/09
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Thats not stupidity. I would consider Canadian schools ending earlier
as an extenuating circumstance that should be considered.

Delaney
SUNY Oneonta #8

BJones

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Apr 18, 2009, 3:31:09 AM4/18/09
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Not if they did not have the foresight to at least try to make sure
their players were eligible. The schedule was not preventing them from
submitting a roster on time.

MRB

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Apr 18, 2009, 7:13:18 AM4/18/09
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Well, they could have submitted a roster then decided not to play if
they couldn't field a team.

Jay

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Apr 18, 2009, 11:03:09 AM4/18/09
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On Apr 16, 2:32 am, "DanD.-TRUDGE #7 (RPI)" <don...@rpi.edu> wrote:
With only 2 bids out of NY/NJ, TCNJ as the two seed is far from a sure
thing to regionals. But if they make it, weather is going to be sooo
critical at regionals. Towson and TCNJ have similar styles:
"patient" (like molasses) smart O and a very consistent and focused
zone D. Towson knocked out GW a couple weeks ago, and it is not like
GW can't move the disc. At Roll Call, TCNJ was able to edge out
Towson... so I think if weather conditions inhibit the run-and-gun,
there will be some broken hearts in the Garden State.

Also, I agree with this "Bill" person from American. "The man in the
yellow hat" from American is one to watch and not guard.

All-Region Freshman- #81, Dan "Danger" Gerew

Any updates on NY/NJ?

Jay, Stall11

MRB

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Apr 18, 2009, 8:31:02 PM4/18/09
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Pool play finishes sunday.

Hofstra (B2, 3rd overall) was DQ'd for using an ineligible player

A2 Hofstra comes back from something like 9-4 to win 11-10 (all games
to 11) against #1 overall NYU. Hofstra went undefeated on the day and
is locked into the #1 seed.

Rutgers and NYU (both 4-1) play tomorrow for 2nd/3rd in A Pool; TCNJ
undefeated in B pool, it sounds like A3 Princeton and A4 Columbia are
locked into the 2/3 slots in B-Pool.

So, It will be TCNJ vs Hofstra for the championships;

Rutgers, NYU, Columbia and Princeton will play out to go up against
the loser of that game for the second big to Regionals.

Johnny Chimpo

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Apr 18, 2009, 8:49:03 PM4/18/09
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Pool A:
1. Vassar (5-0)
2-3. NYU/Rutgers (4-1) (play first thing tomorrow)

Pool B:
1. TCNJ/Columbia (4-0) (first thing tomorrow)
3. Princeton (2-2)

Hofstra was dq'd because their captains name wasn't on their roster
somehow. Sounds like it was just some sort of crazy mistake.

Vassar came back from 9-4ish to knock off NYU 11-10.

-Jack Frenchu
TCNJ #22

dsto...@gmail.com

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Apr 18, 2009, 9:21:05 PM4/18/09
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Princeton is 3-2 after today. The whole Hofstra thing was just
stupid. No one was happy with the decision. We all really would have
liked to play our games against Hofstra. They had a real shot at
regionals and were not intentionally cheating. The whole thing sounds
kind of weird. Oh well. Rules are rules I guess.

In the West Penn, looks like Dickinson over Penn State was the only
upset. They probably don't have a shot at stealing a bid, but they
are a very good team.

MRB

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Apr 19, 2009, 1:03:17 AM4/19/09
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On Apr 18, 8:31 pm, MRB <manz...@reaxion.org> wrote:

er, replace everything I said about Hofstra playing with Vassar.

Geb

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Apr 19, 2009, 1:56:18 AM4/19/09
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Even after this mess I'm still 99% sure I added myself to the roster
as the first person on the list. Why wouldn't I? I don't really know
where the error happened along the way or how I ended up not on the
roster, but rules are rules I guess. Just a shame for all the seniors
on the team as having that as their way of going out. Still had a big
moral win though over Princeton and it would have been interesting to
see what would have happened if we were able/allowed to continue
playing

Anyway.......Greg Owens (TCNJ #15) for All region! You heard it here

Donnie

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Apr 20, 2009, 12:32:48 AM4/20/09
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Official list up: Maryland, Georgetown, Towson, American, Penn,
Drexel, Lehigh, Cornell, RPI, Carleton U, SUNY-Buffalo, Pitt,
Bucknell, Edinboro, Vassar, Columbia.

I see the top four, in order, as Pitt, Cornell, UMD, Penn, with
Georgetown in the 5th spot. I think the GTown vs. Penn is interesting,
but Penn had some signature wins, including NC State & a Harvard win
at (muddy ass) Roll Call. Georgetown's signature wins are, I think, UM-
Duluth, Vermont, and Bucknell. So I say Penn has the edge here. As for
after that, things get a bit messier. Start your prognosticating.

-Donnie
#23, American

Matt

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shut the fuck up donnie.

dsto...@gmail.com

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I'll second that. Greg Owens has transformed TCNJ into the team that
it is today. If it weren't for SUNY-Purchase dropping, you would all
see him dominating next weekend at regionals. He's only a sophomore,
but the entire offense runs through him, and he seems to be able to
score points at will. Absolutely unguardable. Anyone who has ever
seen him play will agree. Believe the hype. Greg Owens is the real
deal.

Sonny

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I liked that guy from TCNJ in the bandanna better. Too bad TCNJ could
not get out of their section... cool bunch of guys.

MRB

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#24. I thought he was a good player, too... especially the layout D
and then game winning catch against Princeton to get to the game to go
against Columbia.

The Bird

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Apr 21, 2009, 11:43:30 AM4/21/09
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Alright not enough talk about pittsburgh. Has your FOTY candidate
played for the us junior national team? A. Thorne did. He plays for
pitt. Has your FOTY candidate killed a man? The Coroner has. also
pitt.

All region, pitt deserves at least three like usual. murderzmarek is
probably good, same with peters, chowder, hambone. I've heard good
things about pannone, any truth to that? I've hyped christo enough, a
bit obvious. The one lock from last year's ME all-region roster was
dulabon, who didn't get it, despite being our best player. This year
the lock is Jake Christian, #35.

Jake's story is analagous to the one of Jason Statham. Statham's
acting career started when a director needed a guy who looked tough,
had a sweet voice, and looked like he wanted to hurt people. The guy
didn't need to act. When Jake joined pitt ultimate, he didn't really
look tough or have a sweet voice, but it was clear he liked hurting
people. He also had little if any frisbee skills. He was simply on
the field to hurt dudes. At pitt, he enjoyed a successful damaging
career. But as pitt improved, Jake's skills needed improve if he was
to stay on the roster. Hurting dudes alone was simply not going to be
enough. So, just like Statham decided to study acting, Jake decided
to improve his frisbee skills. He's pretty good now. And despite
droppin bombs left and right, he has not abondoned his bruising ways.
At roll call he thunderclapped a dude so hard, it could be heard
twelve timezones away. I can personally assure you that that is a
fact. For a more accurate, less hyperbole-ridden summary of jake's
frisbee career, consult here: http://www.pitt.edu/~sorc/frisbee/roster/players/Christian_Jake.html

Oh and not on the topic of pitt; edinboro has a dude named "The
Sauce", #71, all-region, lock it up.

Johnny Chimpo

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#24 is Dave Stoddard, one of our captains this year. He's graduating
this spring a year early to clean aquariums i think. Sounds like a
poor choice on his part but he seems set on it. On a more serious
note. although Greg is hands down our most talented player Dave is
unquestionably the heart and soul of the team. Replacing him next
year will be a tall order. Good season buddy.

-Jack Frenchu
TCNJ Revolution #22

DanD.-TRUDGE #8 (RPI)

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I remember him from the Hofstra tournament and yeah he was good and
the entire offense ran through him but I don't think he was
significantly different then Fat Zac is to our team. Plus from what I
have heard, your team has to do well at regionals for you to have a
shot at making all region.

JephB

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its not called all section....

-JB

dusty rhodes

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On Apr 20, 4:40 pm, Matt <mattdingerdis...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > -Donnie


>
>
> shut the fuck up donnie.

I thought this was the funniest post in this thread.
I then recalled "Assuming [...] NYU [...] make[s] it."

NJ-MNY Section (aka "The Birthplace of Ultimate"):
14 teams, 2 bids and a lifetime of bad ultimate in 1 fantastic
weekend!

music on tap: frank zappa, make a jazz noise here

dusty.rhodes
at gmail.com

dsto...@gmail.com

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Please don't ever compare Greg Owens to Fat Zac again. That is
absurd. Ridiculous. I can't even believe I just read that.

Sonny

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I was going to make an all-section joke, but I thought it was too
mean... Zack Hilton of RPI is a lock for FOTY... if that F stands for
Fatty

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Greg O.

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I was going to try to reclaim my dignity but it seems as if Dave
already did that for me. Thanks, Dave.

Also, I declare shenanigans on ME only getting 2 bids to Regionals. I
feel that the quality of the teams in each Section should decide how
many bids are given. SUNY-Buffalo in Regionals?? No disrespect but
come on, they're not even going to put up a good fight let alone a
good game to watch. TCNJ should have been at Regionals, we would've
played hard, won some and lost some but it would have been exciting
for teams to watch us and learn about who we are.

Also, Watch out for Columbia. They're a bit of a sleeper team this
year seeing as they sucked balls in the Fall, didn't play in any UPA
validated tourneys this Spring and raped face at Sectionals. They
have a decent deep game, but mainly quick handles/in-cuts. Poach them
in.

Geb

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Greg Owens......OVER-RATED!

He still has my vote even though they didn't make it to regionals.
Nothing is changing that. Columbia made it over them and he would
absolutely be the best player on Columbia.

Greg Owens at Sectionals absolutely >>> Greg Owens at the Hofstra
tournament ...........just ask Princeton.

Dasky

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Dear Greg O, Suny Buffalo got to regionals by beating teams. So saying
we aren't going to put up a fight or a good game is slightly not
valid. I know we kind of suck and might not be the best team which is
why we're ranked 16th, but we do deserve to be there and the comment
is slightly douchy dude.
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drew.s....@gmail.com

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Apr 21, 2009, 6:20:46 PM4/21/09
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Greg Owens uses steroids.
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Greg O.

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I prefaced my Buffalo statement with "No Disrespect" so by calling me
a douchebag, you're really just insulting me for no reason.

The teams in your section (besides Cornell/Carleton U/RPI...I guess)
weren't nearly as tough as the teams in
other sections, again, no disrespect, congratulations on making it to
Regionals. Hey, you might put up a good fight against Drexel or
Lehigh, but chances are that you won't play them unless it's for 11th
place or something. You're going to be playing like Georgetown &
Edinboro/Towson early on; again no offense, they're just much better
teams.

I guess I am just frustrated with the way things turned out for us; 4
bids for Upstate NY sectionals because your section could muster 20
teams and only 2 bids for ours because we couldn't get more than 15.

keg

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On Apr 21, 6:34 pm, "Greg O." <ultimate5me...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 21, 5:56 pm, Dasky <Daskachopo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Greg O, Suny Buffalo got to regionals by beating teams. So saying
> > we aren't going to put up a fight or a good game is slightly not
> > valid. I know we kind of suck and might not be the best team which is
> > why we're ranked 16th, but we do deserve to be there and the comment
> > is slightly douchy dude.
>
> I prefaced my Buffalo statement with "No Disrespect" so by calling me
> a douchebag, you're really just insulting me for no reason.
>
> The teams in your section weren't nearly as tough as the teams in

> other sections, again, no disrespect, congratulations on making it to
> Regionals.  Hey, you might put up a good fight against Drexel or
> Lehigh, but chances are that you won't play them unless it's for 11th
> place or something.  You're going to be playing like Georgetown &
> Edinboro/Towson early on; again no offense, they're just much better
> teams.
>
> I guess I am just frustrated with the way things turned out for us; 4
> bids for Upstate NY sectionals because your section could muster 20
> teams and only 2 bids for ours because we couldn't get more than 15.

you may have said 'no disrespect' but then proceeded to disrespect
their section

drew.s....@gmail.com

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Apr 21, 2009, 7:10:50 PM4/21/09
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that's how it works Keg, its in the Geneva Convention, look it up ..

dsto...@gmail.com

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On Apr 21, 6:44 pm, keg <kgolr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Disrespect. Disrespect to Upstate New York. Disrespect to East
Penn. West Penn and Colonial should have gotten all of the bids. I
guess save one for Cornell.

keg

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Apr 21, 2009, 7:20:52 PM4/21/09
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I'm totally gonna play the disrespect card this weekend. Thank you
for dealing it.

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courtn...@gmail.com

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Apr 21, 2009, 7:59:41 PM4/21/09
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Dear Greg O,
You clearly do not know the definition of the phrase "No disrespect".

I love posting in letter format,
Court
GEH fanatic
I'm actually on the Drexel roster but refuse to be the only woman
cleated up at open regionals

Kirby

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On Apr 21, 5:56 pm, Dasky <Daskachopo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dasky, but he said no disrespect

No disrespect Greg but I think you're an overrated asshole.

No disrespect.

BJones

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" TCNJ should have been at Regionals, we would've
played hard, won some and lost some but it would have been exciting
for teams to watch us and learn about who we are"

SUNY-Buffalo is at Regionals because they played hard and won the
games they had to. We will play hard, probably lose a bunch and
hopefully break seed, but it will be exciting for teams to watch us
learn about who we are and some of our young talent.

TCNJ is not at regionals because they did not win enough games in
their section, hate the system, not the team.

dsto...@gmail.com

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On the bright side, you can't do worse than seed. Now that you guys
have made regionals, perhaps a change of team name is in order? I
just don't know if Green Eggs and Ham is going to strike fear into the
hearts of your opponents.

On a more serious note though, this kid Milo Snyder on Columbia is the
real deal. He puts Greg Owens to shame. Keep an eye out for him.
He's the single reason for Columbia's success.

Donnie

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On Apr 21, 8:57 pm, BJones <Alyan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Am I witnessing someone's All-Region hopes go in up in RSD flames?

But seriously, all drama aside, it has been a bit of a wacky series in
the ME so far, but I'm fairly confident every team there is ready to
work their asses off and put forth some good competition. While the
difference between 1 seed and 16 seed might be sizable, in what region
isn't it? The ME gets enough hate from OUTSIDE our region, let's not
throw it around within.

Side note: I'm really excited to see Pitt play. I think I've seen them
once before, and this is my 5th year in the region. Always known they
are good, but now I get to see 'em with my own eyes.

-Donnie
#23 American

Johnny Chimpo

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On Apr 21, 8:57 pm, BJones <Alyan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Our "hate" is clearly directed at the system and I think people are
overreacting to what Greg originally said. It's only natural though
after missing regionals by one spot for the second straight year to
look at some of the teams going and feel a little frustration. West
Penn came within an inch of only being awarded two bids, which would
have been a travesty. The upa needs to get their shit together and
get this "more meaningful regular season" off the ground so they can
more accurately judge the quality of each section to ensure that the
16 teams at regionals are pretty damn close to the best 16 teams in
the region. I think we all can agree on how messed up the system is
right now, whether or not we benefit from it.


Geb

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Watch out for the 1/16 seed upset! We (Hofstra) gave them a good
scare and opened up their eyes last year (at least in the first
half....until they remembered they were Pitt). Represent that 16 seed
well for us Buffalo haha

Godstorm/Dr. Manhattan

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I am extremely proud of the way Buffalo played this year to make
regionals. We had considerably more tournament experience against
pretty good teams for the most part all spring and had some tough
losses. We have a lot of young and learning players who are really
beginning to step up as well as some guys who are maturing as
sophomores and juniors. Give props to #69 (Dasky) on our team because
in his final year he definitely took a big part of our success. This
is only our second trip to regionals and we're working really hard to
build a more competitive program. Say what you want but our section
had four bids and we beat all the teams we needed to and made it in.

To address Greg O's comment, I can certainly understand the
frustration, but defending your disrespect by saying "no disrespect"
is pretty much just a contradiction. I think any time you hear the
phrase "no disrespect" you can be ready to hear some disrespect :)

But seriously, if you're basing our team's performance on when you saw
us at Hoefstra, we were missing a few key players (actually I, myself
was not there) that played big roles in sectionals and the guys that
were there really stepped up their game for sectionals as well.
Actually, I can't make it to regionals as sad as it makes me because
I'm getting married this weekend :), but I'm real pumped for all our
guys to get regionals experience and I look forward to the future of
GEH ultimate!

-TJ (Godstorm)
#28 Buffalo GEH

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On Apr 21, 9:40 pm, drew.s.shel...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hate the system and the team. You're worse than us. Real talk.
>
> Hearty amount of disrespect to you Buffalo.

Please ignore our resident asshole. He only means about 90% of what
he says.

SeanM...@gmail.com

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>
> Side note: I'm really excited to see Pitt play. I think I've seen them
> once before, and this is my 5th year in the region. Always known they
> are good, but now I get to see 'em with my own eyes.
>
> -Donnie
> #23 American

Donnie--if you had been around much longer, than you would remember
the days when American was kickin Pitt's ass in the B-bracket of
Layout Pigout. http://www.pitt.edu/~sorc/frisbee/history/season/2001-2002.html#pig

Now studs like Brenenborg, Eddie Peters and Kaczmarek are dominating
the scene and junior STUDS like A-thorne and Colin Connor are walking
on to campus ready to dominate.

The Metro East is nuts!

dsto...@gmail.com

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Apr 21, 2009, 9:55:10 PM4/21/09
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"Johnny Chimpo" over here makes a good point. Buffalo may be a good
team, worthy of regionals, but your spring season (before sectionals)
does not indicate that. The UPA really needs to make tournaments or
games before the series more meaningful. I remember not too long ago
a bunch of Green Egg and Hammers complaining because they got the 13
seed while St. Lawrence got the 5 seed at UNY Sectionals even though
Buffalo had played a bunch of tournaments and St. Lawrence had played
none. Well, now you're turning it around and saying that your pre-
series record is no indicator of your actual team skill and
potential. The UPA really needs to change the way the system is set
up. Number of teams attending your sectionals should not control how
many teams go to regionals. Make the spring season more meaningful!
This way, SUNY-Purchase will never again be able to control the fate
of 8 regional hopefuls from MNY.

SeanM...@gmail.com

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Dave

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> The upa needs to get their shit together and
> get this "more meaningful regular season" off the ground so they can
> more accurately judge the quality of each section to ensure that the
> 16 teams at regionals are pretty damn close to the best 16 teams in
> the region.  I think we all can agree on how messed up the system is
> right now, whether or not we benefit from it.

Any chance you've visited the UPA's blog on the two plans under
consideration for next season? Both allow for a more meaningful
regular season as well as separation of D1 and D2 nationals (possibly
D3 as well). Perhaps providing feedback on the plans instead of
telling an organization to "get their shit together" might do some
more good. A lot of people spent a good number of hours creating
those plans that will be the shape of college Ultimate for years to
come, but you have the opportunity to decide which changes are
enacted. Time to put that "hate" to good use.

Restructure Plans: http://www.upa.org/college/2008_restructure/plan/
Blog: http://uparestructuring.blogspot.com/

Greg O.

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Haha wow. Everyone needs to chill out.

Now I know why everyone told me to stay away from RSD, I'm out.

Donnie

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On Apr 21, 10:07 pm, SeanMcC...@gmail.com wrote:

Year before I arrived, Sean. Fall of '04 was my first experience.
Kinda cool to see that stuff though, I know American was known for the
4 man cup they used to throw (and the alums still do, often as Stall
12). Interesting to see how things have changed in the past 5 years.
Thanks for a little view into the past.

-Donnie

chrisn...@gmail.com

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On Apr 21, 9:07 pm, Donnie <KRDon...@gmail.com> wrote:

I get to see pitt 3rd game saturday, as long as the seeds remain the
same. See you in princeton donnie

Chris
#2 Towson

Otto

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Apr 21, 2009, 11:04:38 PM4/21/09
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Please, lets move past complaining about teams getting in and others
not. Thats like bitching that the Chargers got in the playoffs at 8-8
and the Patriots at 11-5 didn't. Whatever, it happened, grow a pair
and deal with it. GEH sucked it up at some tournaments, did well at
others when they had all their players. When it came down to it at
sectionals they took care of business and went from 13th to 4th and
got in Regionals. They beat who they had to. It has nothing to do
with TCNJ or anyone else that just missed regionals. So stop phrasing
disrespectful statements with 'no disrespect' and have some class and
congratulate everyone that made it. Who cares if they won't make a
push at regionals and challenge Cornell, Pitt, Maryland? Neither would
any other team that didn't make regionals or half of the teams that
did make regionals. It is what it is. Blame the UPA, other teams
dropping out, your father not hugging you enough as a child, not
enough milk, whatever makes you feel better. I'll stop ranting cuz I
know I'm a little late on that anyway, so I'll just leave with
this...

http://www.imeem.com/ike/music/22aK6ggh/moxy-fruvous-green-eggs-and-ham/

word

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Kirby

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On Apr 21, 10:22 pm, "Greg O." <ultimate5me...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > The Metro East is nuts!
>
> > Actually Donnie--where were you for this:
>
> >http://www.pitt.edu/~sorc/frisbee/history/season/2003-2004.html#blood3
>
> Haha wow.  Everyone needs to chill out.
>
> Now I know why everyone told me to stay away from RSD, I'm out

Just like you're out of the running for All Region.

Oh and the college series.

..No disrespect

dsto...@gmail.com

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Apr 21, 2009, 11:33:24 PM4/21/09
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Dave,

Not sure if I've voted on the most recent stuff, I'll have to check it
out if I haven't. But I did provide feedback a few months ago on a
number of issues including the regular season issue. Regardless, I
think the system has been screwed up for long enough for me to use the
term "get their shit together." I didn't even mean it to come off as
that disrespectful or anything. I forgot that rsd is serious
business. And boner checks.

Johnny Chimpo

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