I'm talking about dudes here, but feel free to make a women's list if
you know who the best female receivers are/were (I don't).
Factors to be included (in no particular order):
1) speed
2) height
3) disc-reading ability
4) good hands
5) ability to catch the disc while getting fouled
6) jumping ability
7) actually makes/made lots of aggressive deep cuts in big games and
catches/caught clutch goals
8) had more than one or two good seasons
9) usually wide open for very easy-to-hit comeback cuts, as defenders
give/gave them big cushions
Here is my list (not in order), which probably fails to take into
account some of the newer players:
Dennis Warsen AKA Cribber (NYNY in its heyday)
Jeremy Seeger (DOG in its heyday and before)
Mike Grant (Furious)
Brian Linkfield (Wilmington, NC and Portland, in the 90's)
Tom Rigakky (Australian Worlds team, I misspelled his name)
Alex Nord (Sockeye)
Chase S-B (Sockeye)
Beau Kittridge (Johnny Bravo)
Joey Giampino (Chicago in the 80's, and I think Boston in the early
90's)
Dollar (current Callahan nominee for Maryland B team; this mention is
based entirely on his promotional video)
*This list does not take into account great, tall players like Moons,
Andrew Lugsdin, and Damien Scott, who can/could sky most players
silly, but spend/spent most of their time around the disc*
notable "under 6'2" mentions:
Fortunat Mueller (DOG)
Corky Corcoran (DOG in its heyday)
Jason Seidler (Condors, Revolver)
Josh Weisman (Revolver)
Brian Morris AKA Biscuit (Double Happiness/Jam)
Roscoe Dicko back in his "hayday"
Jenna Jameson has to be up there.
Bagger vs. Joey used to worth the price of admission. There a lot of guys
you could put on this list.
Under 6'
Rob Delgado (Davis, Austin)
Jason "Pony" Calvi (Hounds)
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Scott Johnston(Stanford/Jam)
Eric Lonsdorf(Carleton/SubZero)
Brandon Steets(RPI)
Zip, have you seen the college videos of him of him in championships
toasting Bart repeatedly? The guy isn't big but he has HUGE grabs
(anyone else remember that one where he got way up and landed on his
back? Wiggins was commentary guy and lost it when he made that grab)
and is ridiculously, ridiculously fast.
BTW, same Steets from Jam/Condors
Under 6'
Brendan Smith (Philly Rage, 90s)
Walter van der Schraaf (NYNY)
that has to be one of the most hilarious comments i've seen on RSD in
some time, nice work!
Johnny Sky (Condors)
Keough ? (Condors)
Tom Barnouw (Tucson, Sockeye)
Big Dave Smith (Zontals, Ultitudes, Double Happiness, Toxic
Resinators)
For their size, none tougher to stop, came down with everything thrown
to them:
Bagger (Austin, Dallas)
Dee Rambeau (Tunas)
John Babin (Burbank)
Guy Martin (Burbank, Toxic Resinators)
Under 6 feet
Jimmy Price (Toxic Resinators, Condors, Bulge)
Newer Player
Jeff Grobe (Monsoon, Barrio)
Sammy
Thanks for the insight, Jeremy. By the way, I don't think anyone on
this post was bitching, just chirping.
Dave Boardman from Z and SubZero
Ben Usadi, while a great player was not a primary deep threat for
NYNY. It just wasn't his role.
Our deep threats were Cribber, of course, and David Blau (probably our
two best deep receivers and fairly equal in ability to come down with
hucks).
Notable great deep receivers with great ups on the team also included
Walter and Ken but deep hucks to them wer not a primary weapon and
deep receiver was not a primary role for them.
Rick Geyer from Tsunami was impressive.
All others I could think of have been mentioned, except maybe Corey
Sanford in his young Westchester Summer League days. ;-)
MJ
You can't adequately come up with this list over so long a time frame.
There aren't enough people who have played with/against or seen play
everyone over a 20 year period. I suggest you have at most 10 year
increments (maybe even 5-7 year increments would be better). So ask
your question for:
2000-2008
1990-1999
1980-1989
1970-1979
When you're done, for fun, you can then pick the top 3 from each time
period and compare them to each other. However, this will be a rather
useless (albeit fun) exercise.
I think it's cool that the sport continues to grow and its history
allows for discussions like this. I'm glad to see Johnny Sky get
mentioned, and John Keough! I wasn't much of a deep thrower, but I'll
bet I completed more passes to Keough -- and he to me -- than any
other teammate I ever had.
Other SB standouts going long in the '80s: don't forget JK and Aengus;
Mike Buchi and Garrett Headley. Andy Petroff started out in SB, but he
wore #80 for Double and he was a great deep man for them.
Jacob - you missed it. Chirp is the only verb in that sentence.
Bitch is a noun. Jeremy might have placed his commas wrong but
otherwise, solid reference.
Oops. My fault. An understandable mistake, as I never got to do the
bitching, I just threw it to the guys who did ... and had it done to
me by some guys on this list.
C'mon Jim, let's not let our biases make us go crazy. These guys
aren't even top 10 southern California receivers of all time.
This lists are never adequate, Joe. That's part of the fun.
no mike. but are you taking rhett russ deep? or working the handle
underneath and favoring your strengths? question is, who do you like
taking it deep to the other team, and who do you trust when you've
exhausted all opportunities, and it's stall 9, and the dump is shut
down, and it's fuck it time. who do you like deep. I think that's
jacob's questions. in my limited experience, and nsho,
i like, in order of how closely i know them personally, not where they
are on the list from top to bottom
john hammond (cuz i've thrown him a bunch)
stu downs (always clutch)
brian harriford (he got in SI for a reason. it was a highlight of my
college career getting a layout on him)
nord (seen him not on his game though, but I've seen him ON his game)
cribber (sickest catch i ever saw, diving layout hammer catch in
chicago)
chase sprawling last name
mike grant
shank (if you don't know, then he's underrrated, but i'm starting to
move towards category 2, players who set it up, rather than huck and
hope bail me out)
category 2. win when they shouldn't
brit attack. sockeye. ridiculous abl type athlete. won so many he
shouldn't have i lost count
mark stone. only 6'1. to this day, probably the least heralded
player in the history of nw ultimate, ever. always won the air, never
turned it over, made tons of d's.
augie (old as dirt, always beat the best athlete i ever saw playing
(robbye brooks) at everything including chutes and ladders
aaron switzer. might should put him into category 1, but won most
battles with speed, and not so tall...
some kind of sort ofs.
tommy santabarbara
jim schoettler
serags
lippy
---sure....especially if i can also throw to myself.
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question is, who do you like
taking it deep to the other team, and who do you trust when you've
exhausted all opportunities, and it's stall 9, and the dump is shut
down, and it's fuck it time. who do you like deep.
---who would i like deep...?
....anyone beating their man!
no prejudice!!!
i'd pick the 1994 Irates over everyone....Sean, AJ, Curtis, Nat, Chad,
Tommy, etc......
Just havin' fun remembering some good times, bro!
He sounds like a dick.
"He sounds like a dick."
No, everyone loved the Goose (not to be confused with the Goose who
played for UC Berkeley recently). He was a great guy. For the record,
Enver, the Goose started playing in the mid-80s. I believe he also
yelled "EXPLOSION" when he threw a goal, which was quite often. I
should have put him on my original list.
I totally remember that guy, he was definitely a two way threat though
there were a couple of times that he seemed to have reading issues on
deep hucks, but still that guy was THE man in the mid 80's...
Supposedly, at a Cal States tourney in Santa Cruz back in '88 or '89
the teams playing on the upper fields could actually hear "EXPLOSION"
all the way from lower fields as Goose would throw one of his patented
blading flicks for a score...
and not sure if Biscuit made the list, but that guy definitely owned
most deep catches for Double back in the day...
dk
>notable "under 6'2" mentions:
>Fortunat Mueller (DOG)
>Corky Corcoran (DOG in its heyday)
>Jason Seidler (Condors, Revolver)
>Josh Weisman (Revolver)
>Brian Morris AKA Biscuit (Double Happiness/Jam)
(east coast-centric perspective here...)
I would think that Jim Parinella belongs in this list, but not with
the list above it. Kid from Chain (and Condors one year) definitely
does. Dylan Tunnell? Danny Clark? Steve Kolthammer, the bearded guy
from Boston Ultimate, #50...he could stamp his name in this category
before too long. If he stays healthy, I'd expect to see Thomas Ward
from Ring justify a place among the notable under 6'2" mentions soon.
Augie is/was more of a possessor of the disc rather than a deep
receiver, although he did that well too. There's a pretty oft-used
photo from '98 Nationals from the Ring/Condors semis game where you
see the hands of Augie, Hollywood, and various others all going for
the disc, but Ray Parrish's is about 6 inches above everyone else's.
Ray is a very good deep receiver, for sure.
Awww, you are sweet to incule me, matty. but i made in name in
ultimate more COVERING these guys, not being one of them.
i've covered at least 25 guys mentioned on this thread, from Linwood
to Nord.
the top guys are the ones that were on NYNY, DoG, Condors, Furious and
Sockeye. That's why they won all those titles.
With some special shout outs to Tom Barnouw, Biscuit, and Linkfield.
Those guys were uncoverable anywhere.
CS
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As a guy who always guarded the other teams deep threats & who skied a
lot of people (including Mr. Ward) in my college years, Dylan is one I
can admit got the best of me. Burns in my memory: at the back of the
endzone in January 07 at FWC, thinking we were gonna slam into a
soccer goal. That was one time I can remember being just about as high
as I could go and seeing him have that extra inch or 2 more. Didn't
happen often, why am I not on the list? (JOKE)
But seriously Dylan was (and I'm sure still is) a beast deep and a
bitch to guard, and a pretty class act for what it worth on the deep
receivers rankings.
What can we say, Corey? You're a textbook over-acheiver. Must have
been all that experience at Suny New Paltz.
Hey - leave New Paltz out of this. I love my cherished alma mater,
thank you. Makes me want to get high right now just thinking about
it.
Now up to covering over 40 of these players. God, I really wasted my
life, didn't I?
See ya this weekend I hope, jake!
yes.