putting touch on throws
jtau...@gmail.com
put more touch on their throws.
faddy
> i was wondering if anyone had a thought about how to teach players to
> put more touch on their throws.
land it, and keep it, in a hula hoop.
scpo...@hotmail.com
> put more touch on their throws.
tell them to hold their follow through after releasing the disc. will
definitely help with control of the disc flight. also, you should make
sure they are stepping out and keeping that leg bent when throwing so
they will be more balanced on the throw allowing more control of the
disc on a feel throw. while you are at it, you should tell em about
the benefit of breathing out when you throw the disc allowing for a
relaxed body producing a smooth throw. also, it can make you feel like
a ninja or somekind of frisbee guru. good luck with it.
and one more thing, make sure the player's head is not moving around
when throwing the disc. gotta use the core ab/lower back muscles to
keep upper body balanced. moving the head around throws off one's
ability to control a throw and screws up the follow through.
mark...@gmail.com
wrote:
> On Nov 25, 1:07 pm, "jtaube...@gmail.com" <jtaube...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > i was wondering if anyone had a thought about how to teach players to
> > put more touch on their throws.
>
> the benefit of breathing out when you throw the disc allowing for a
> relaxed body producing a smooth throw. also, it can make you feel like
> a ninja or somekind of frisbee guru. good luck with it.
are you serious?
tight grip, early & flat release, and the shorter the throw, the
shorter the arm movement.
make sure they know they're not throwing directly at a person's chest,
but to the space that
the cutter will run to.
T
> definitely help with control of the disc flight. also, you should make
> sure they are stepping out and keeping that leg bent when throwing so
> they will be more balanced on the throw allowing more control of the
> disc on a feel throw. while you are at it, you should tell em about
> the benefit of breathing out when you throw the disc allowing for a
> relaxed body producing a smooth throw. also, it can make you feel like
> a ninja or somekind of frisbee guru. good luck with it.
>
> and one more thing, make sure the player's head is not moving around
> when throwing the disc. gotta use the core ab/lower back muscles to
> keep upper body balanced. moving the head around throws off one's
> ability to control a throw and screws up the follow through.
Poulos' "touch" will be on display at the Ultimax party.
T
faddy
> On Nov 25, 1:54 pm, "scpou...@hotmail.com" <scpou...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 25, 1:07 pm, "jtaube...@gmail.com" <jtaube...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > i was wondering if anyone had a thought about how to teach players to
> > > put more touch on their throws.
>
> > you should tell em about
> > the benefit of breathing out when you throw the disc allowing for a
> > relaxed body producing a smooth throw. also, it can make you feel like
> > a ninja or somekind of frisbee guru. good luck with it.
>
> are you serious?
yes, he is serious. it's the same reason tennis players grunt/scream
when hitting a shot. same with many athletic moves...
Torre
> yes, he is serious. it's the same reason tennis players grunt/scream
> when hitting a shot. same with many athletic moves...
among other things;)
Colin
> put more touch on their throws.
For relatively short passes (5-15 yards), throwing gently outside-in
slowly enough that as the disc falls, it flattens and almost takes an
inside-out tilt at the end. During that transition, it'll slow up and
float a bit. If there's wind, you'll get the same effect starting it
inside-out into the wind and having it gently turn outside-in.
On short backhands, I try to get a lot of grip with my palm as opposed
to my fingers, as it makes for a cleaner release. Do this by
stretching out your hand, placing the disc firmly in the palm and then
relaxing the hand. If it helps to imagine it, you can do the same
thing with a plastic 16 ounce cup. Stretch your hand, place the cup
in it and relax your hand. You'll grip the cup with no effort. No
effort = cleaner release.
jerm...@gmail.com
should teach the players to release the disc at angle or knee height,
angled up. Touch is less about the disc's air speed, than it's speed
relative to the cutter when it meets them. So, for an away cut for
which the throw is 25 yards, the speed out of the throwers hand might
be the same as for a moderate huck, say 50 yards. But started low and
angled up, the disc will use a lot of it's kinetic energy climbing
from one foot high to 6 feet high, slowing down the whole time, until
it is slow enough to be chased down by the receiver. Point is, the
thrower gets to put enough on it, speedwise and rotationwise, that it
isn't a weak, wobbly throw. But it's still a touch throw. That make
any sense?
On Nov 25, 10:07 am, "jtaube...@gmail.com" <jtaube...@gmail.com>
wrote:
jerm...@gmail.com
> to release the disc at ankle or knee height,
^^^^^
Wagenwheel
>
> - Show quoted text -
The key to touch is really quite simple. Wham-o 80E Made in Mexico.
wiggity
and fast, I tend to use quick, powerful movements that produce the
most snap/torque on the disc as possible. When throwing with 'touch' I
tend to slow the movements down while trying to be as fluid as
possible, which results in a softer (not wobbly) throw. It also helps
me to focus on splaying my fingers at the end of my forehand motion,
instead of keeping them in a more pistol-like position that works for
hard and fast throws.
Wiggity
mbma...@gmail.com
wrote:
Balance is definitely important. Keeping the head stable falls under
the umbrella of "balance" in my mind. Those tips go for all throwing,
not just throwing with touch.
For me, I find outside of balance, the most important thing is using
the core actively...instead of allowing my limbs and body to run
unchecked and uncoordinated, I use my core to slow my body's momentum
to the point that I can release the disc at my desired speed.
There's definitely something to be said for a little upwards
trajectory, but that is very situational (wind and the speed/location
of your target come into play too--as somebody alluded to, "touch" is
not always the same thing as "slow").
Get a good grip, brace your core ("exhaling" is really just a means to
bracing, but neither is necessary or sufficent for the other to
occur), and channel control in your motion and release. Touch is a
symptom of control.
There was a great post by Ben Wiggins some years ago that I can no
longer find--he talked about basically playing the ultimate equivalent
of "long toss" for pitchers, where you have to guys stand a set
distance apart--take turns passing to one another--not straight-on
lasers, but focusing on curving the disc or otherwise floating it (you
would systematically work on, for instance, you OI flick) into the
partner's chest. If both of you can successfully hit the other in the
chest, you take a step back. If you miss, you take a step in. In
this way you work on developing touch, and on extending the range at
which you're comfortable putting touch on throws. Eventually you work
up to longer distances and learn to place precision hucks.
Or at least, that's the general idea. Hope that helps.
-Mackey
Formerly #33, Dartmouth
Most commonly known as "Matto-sensei" these days.
MRB
> put more touch on their throws.
all this talk about form and mechanics... inexperienced players
generally spend too much time thinking about the physics and not
enough getting "in touch" with the disc. Throw a ton. Keep a disc in
your hand even when you aren't throwing. Name your disc. Speak to your
disc, and eventually the disc will speak back to you.
matty j
> put more touch on their throws.
Get into freestyle and DDC, watch/learn from the experts in these
sports.
will take your touch throws to a whole different level.
MJ
BJ
ur talking about sex!
jacob
under pressure, despite years of practicing throws. This is partly
because they have been practicing bad mechanics from the begining.
It's just as important to teach new players the right technique as it
is to tell them to practice; which they presumably will do without
being told.
Mark.Grow is right that you must throw touch throws early, as a late-
delivered touch throw is easy for a defender to catch up with.
However, knowing when to throw a touch throw is only have half the
battle- you also need to know how to release it.
Most of the other posts here are offering advice which applies equally
to hard throws as it does to touch throws; be balanced, loose, keep
your head on a swivel.
Jermie comes close by suggesting throwing upwards. It is true that an
upwards throw will lose speed quicker than a flat throw will.
However, it is not realistic to expect a new player to be able to
release a low throw aimed upwards at a cutting receiver being guarded
by a good defender. Such a throw has a very narrow window of
catchability, as do throws which are banked at inside-out or outside-
in angles.
A good touch throw is released on a flat plane (with flat, not upward,
follow through), but with the edge facing the receiver tipped slightly
upwards. This slight upward tilt will slow the throw. Contrary to
what has been stated earlier, a touch throw is the same thing as a
slow throw.
Good luck.
ager...@yahoo.com
> put more touch on their throws.
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---i might not have any idea......but.....
to me the trick is to throw the disc flat with a lot of spin....
and to NOT throw it further than you need....and to keep it in the
air.
flat, in the air, hovering...no further than you have to throw it.
is that touch?
or.....touch might be....NOT breaking someone's ribs....anything less
than that, that's catchable......is, to me....touch.
throw
before taking on plastic's finest form.
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