Motion Offense Clinics Begin Jan. 8th at Stanford
Frank
Offense clinics at Stanford as well. 10:00 a.m. on the Stock Farm
Road fields near the hospital. Rain or shine.
There is a wealth of information about the Motion Offense at www.z-boyz.org.
For at least 8 weeks, we'll be meeting to learn the basic building
blocks to the offense so that over time we can add the layers of
complexity to make the system work. The key factor we'll be focusing
on is balance. Personal physical balance, personal balance of attack/
distribution, team physical balance (as a structure) and a balanced
team attack. The more balanced we are, the more easier the game
becomes so every drill/scrimmage we'll be doing will emphasize balance
in someway that will probably feel uncomfortable and unnatural to
you. But that's a good thing. No pain, no gain. Right?
If you're intrigued at all with the concept, I encourage you to come
out to the first session to get a taste of what they are like so you
can make an informed decision as to whether you'd like to continue or
not.
All I ask is that you come out with an open mind. The offense if very
fun, dynamic and selfless but at the same time, it runs contrary to
many popularly held beliefs so in order to allow those new ideas to
flow in, you'll have to let go of some old ones (at least for the
duration).
I'm very excited and optimistic about these clinics. The number of
participants is growing everyday and we'll be producing videos after
each session to post online so that others around the country can also
participate.
The format each week will be two drills that emphasize basic
fundamentals to the offense and then we'll scrimmage to implement
those ideas. .
Again, if you're interested at all, please come and find out if its
for you and by all means, spread the word.
Word.
Major Tom
I don't think I'm alone in saying that I can not wait to see those
videos. Good luck, Frank.
Frank
Thank you.
I doubt that there is anyone looking forward to these videos more than
myself.
They've been a long time in coming.
Tricky Nick
participate myself. Good luck!
Frank
> I'm excited to see those. Unfortunately I can't afford to fly out to
> participate myself. Good luck!
Nick,
It's my intention in producing these videos that people will be able
to participate no matter where they are. I already have interest from
people in LA, San Diego and Texas where they will be emulating the
sessions as we go. With this in mind, I'll convey as much as possible
the essence of each session into each production.
There's no reason you can't play along from home. You may lag one
week or two behind us as we go forward but if you incorporate the
building blocks as we go along, by the spring your team will have a
whole new idea of the word Balance.
Reggie Fanelli
> I don't think I'm alone in saying that I can not wait to see those
> videos. Good luck, Frank
--how do you get the oak trees to get into motion???
Frank
Take Mushrooms and stand on your head.
It's easy Mike. You just need to open your mind.
Reggie Fanelli
----lord....THAT explains the origins of that dumbassed, toss to
yourself, activity that you advertize....
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> Take Mushrooms and stand on your head.
> You just need to open your mind.
---and....THAT'S the 'kool-aid' you've been drinking huh?
brien
(with balance) in any direction opposite to where your momentum was.
how do you do this without a travel? maybe i'm not visualizing what
you are trying to communicate here, so help me out. did you mean
"throw" instead of catch in this; i found it in the motion offense
summary section. that's all i read through....
Frank
This is one of the many challenges to commonly held beliefs.
The motion offense says decelerate into the catch so that you can be
balanced asap.
Conventional wisdom says catch the disc running at full speed so that
your defender can't block the throw.
Conventional wisdom is wrong.
The_Diner
> The motion offense says decelerate into the catch so that you can be
> balanced asap.
>
> Conventional wisdom says catch the disc running at full speed so that
> your defender can't block the throw.
>
> Conventional wisdom is wrong.
Its wrong... until you get laid out past and dont get a chance to
catch the disc and run the offense...
Frank
If you could run an offense where you could both decelerate into
catches and NEVER get laid out on, wouldn't you want to know how?
Your thinking is built around unfounded assumptions and if you're
unable to let go of those preconceptions, your mind will not allow new
thoughts to come in.
I offer you gold but you clutch on to straw.
Alex Korb
decelerating before the catch. Perhaps it's true that in your offense
people will be so open they don't need to worry about getting layout
D'd, but it's not necessary to decelerate before the catch in order to
stay balanced for the throw. If you jump to catch the disc then you
can change your body position in the air in order to prepare for rapid
deceleration. If you're conscious of this then you can choose which
foot to land on. If you want to be able to throw quickly without
traveling you have 3 choices of what to do:
(for a right hander who prefers pivoting on their left foot)
1. Land on your left foot and stop (which would be quite difficult if
you're moving fast)
2. Land on your right foot, and land on your left foot and stop
(probably still too difficult)
3. Land on your left, right, left, stop.
Now the rules don't say you have to stop in 3 ground contacts, but if
you want to be able to throw immediately without traveling you need to
do so. And actually if you want to change direction you get an extra
ground contact, with your pivot as the last step (provided the first
three ground contacts are all collinear)
You should be able to decelerate and be balanced on your pivot foot,
even if you didn't decelerate before the catch. And while yes this is
tiring, it's much less tiring than getting layout Dd and having to
play defense.
Frank
> Frank, I think you're confusing the issue when you talk about
> decelerating before the catch. Perhaps it's true that in your offense
> people will be so open they don't need to worry about getting layout
> D'd,
I would say it differently than that. When your point guard is
capable of separation as he releases the disc, he will gain an
awareness of how much room he has to work with. The more he/she is
able to dictate tempo to the defense, the less opportunity the defense
will have at laying out and the less opportunity the D has to lay out,
the more you will be able to dictate tempo. Who's your daddy?
> but it's not necessary to decelerate before the catch in order to
> stay balanced for the throw.
This is somewhat true (although not necessarily). However, it is
necessary to decelerate to catch in order to have enough balance to
immediately alter your course in a meaningfully quick succession so
that you're able to maintain the separation you achieved in your
previous move. It's one thing to run in a line executing a series of
throw and go moves, it's entirely different if at each juncture you
change your direction quick enough to keep your defender at bay (which
is fundamental to running counter or misdirection plays).
> If you jump to catch the disc then you
> can change your body position in the air in order to prepare for rapid
> deceleration. If you're conscious of this then you can choose which
> foot to land on. If you want to be able to throw quickly without
> traveling you have 3 choices of what to do:
Sure, this is where I was maybe 20 years ago. If you just want a
straight give-go move, this works but even the jump up in the air is
compromising your options. If you can seal your defender such that
the only way for him to get the D is to foul you, then there's no need
for the jump and you'll be better off.
Think Snowboarding. Do you want to be the Jackass flying down the
hill out of control or the graceful boarder who's not only balanced on
his board but also balanced in his attack on the hill?
There are many forms of balance (mental, physical, emotional,
individual, team, attack) and when things are all brought into balance
we have harmony.
> You should be able to decelerate and be balanced on your pivot foot,
> even if you didn't decelerate before the catch. And while yes this is
> tiring, it's much less tiring than getting layout Dd and having to
> play defense.
Alex. You're being argumentative.
Your arguments are again based on concepts that you need to let go of
in order to allow new concepts in.
If you could accept that what I'm saying is true (i.e. that within the
framework of the motion you can decelerate before the catch and NEVER
get legally D'd), wouldn't you rather play in a manner that is more in
control?
In other words, if you're being forced to 'Jump catch', are you not
still allowing the Defense to dictate to you on their terms how to
play offense? Who's in control here? You or the defense?
Alex Korb
with what you're saying. I'm saying there are more effective ways of
communicating it to the ultimate community. The things that you
choose to focus on in how you describe the motion offense, and how you
convey that will make a huge difference in whether people accept what
you're saying. It's great to be right, but isn't it better to be
right and have people actually listen to you?
What if you were a math professor? ... and every time a student in an
intro calculus class struggled to solve a simple integral you laughed
at them and said "Ha, I was solving problems like that 20 years ago."
Sure you're right, but how many people would sign up for your class
next semester.
Well ultimate is that intro (or remedial in your eyes) class ... Lead
people in the light, don't just berate them.
But that's just my attempt at public service ... go ahead and yell at
me now :-)
Frank
What's the opposite of a professor?
Torre
seanc
dilettante... dabbler? someone with a superficial knowledge of his/
her subject?
sean
seanc
the
hill out of control or the graceful boarder who's not only balanced on
his board but also balanced in his attack on the hill?"
xxxxxxx
"With 31 World Cup victories, [Bode Miller] is the most successful
American alpine skier of all time."
"Miller is known for his reckless style, often risking crashes to
increase his chances of winning a given race; in his book, Bode: Go
Fast, Be Good, Have Fun, Miller stated that his goal as a skier was
not to win medals, but rather to ski "as fast as the natural universe
will allow."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bode_Miller
all that being said (quoted), i'm looking forward to the videos, too,
and keeping my mind open...
sean
DanD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FA9f-4n2ME&feature=related
check out :32 or so, and at the end they replay it, btw he wins with a
horrible line...
Frank
No, I wouldn't call those opposites, just someone to a lesser degree.
Frank
I'm sorry, correct me if I'm wrong but did you just call Bode Miller a
jackass?