Size bids
Kohn
Women:
ME
NE
AC
CE
Mens:
ME
GL
AC
NE
Looks like that critical predicted AC finals matchup between Florida &
Georgia will carry a little less importance, but should still be a
great game.
So, now that the # of bids is known, who's going to the Big Dance??
Will D
The UPA is pleased to announce the wildcards and bid allocations for
the 2006 UPA College Championships. Check out the UPA Home Page
www.upa.org or the UPA College Division Page www.upa.org/college for a
link to this information and more.
Good luck to all the players and teams at Regionals!
Will Deaver
UPA Championship Director
Neva Cherniavsky
Ask and you shall receive. I am only talking about the ladies, since
watching men's ultimate is like watching women's ultimate, only with a lot
more stoppages.
NE: Dartmouth and Tufts. MIT would be the spoiler. Tufts and Dartmouth
have dominated the region so far, and split their meetings 2-2.
Interesting to note that though MIT and Tufts are in the same section,
they have yet to face off this year, and Dartmouth hasn't played MIT
either. MIT suffered early losses at Yale Cup and Sectionals, but went on
to win all their games in those tournaments.
ME: This makes me sad because it should be Penn State, and with the
season they've had, they probably would have made some noise at Nationals.
I'm going with Cornell and Delaware. I know Swat is the #1 seed, but
that's based on an early season tourney; their strength of schedule is
quite weak.
AC: UNC, Georgia, Florida. Looks to me like UNC should be the #1 seed
(higher RRI and 1-0 record vs. Georgia, whereas Florida is 1-1) but it
will all wash out in the end. Emory could threaten but those sectional
results were not stellar. 3 bids, nice change from a year ago for the
region.
GL: Michigan. With only one bid, this tournament won't be too
interesting - Michigan has dominated all season. On the up side, they are
likely to do well at Nationals and could earn a strength bid for next
year. Before Sectionals, I would have given Northwestern more of a
chance.
C: Wisconsin and Carleton. Not really any other competition. But where
on earth did Iowa State come from?
NW: Stanford, UBC, Humboldt State. My one dark horse - you have to have
at least one, right? In all seriousness, despite UBC's loss at
Sectionals, they have the home field advantage at Regionals and that
impressive record all season long. It would be reasonable to predict
Davis, Cal, or UW for that third spot, with Davis the safest bet. But
Humboldt State, I just like their chances, a win over UW, super close
losses to the SW powers UCSD, UCLA, and UCSB. What - say what, say what,
anything can happen.
SW: Colorado and UCLA. UCSD and UCSB also in the mix. I think UCLA got
their wakeup call at Sectionals though. Sometimes, for a team that's
winning a lot, losing can be a good thing. (This is why I think Stanford
will win it all despite Centex). Regardless, those 4 teams will be
battling it out in the championship bracket at Regionals.
S: Oh dear, I seriously almost sent this without including the South.
Sorry Texas. You are just too dominant.
Mimmo
> AC: UNC, Georgia, Florida. Looks to me like UNC should be the #1 seed
> (higher RRI and 1-0 record vs. Georgia, whereas Florida is 1-1) but it
> will all wash out in the end.
Really? I'd argue that FUEL should be the one seed. Winners of Queen
City, Finals of Southerns, 4th at Centex, Winners of their section with
a 15-8 victory over the Ho-Dawgs.
Yes Florida is 1-1 vs the UGA, but they've avenged their 10-12
southerns loss with the 15-8 sectional game.
Also, UNC lost in quarters at every tournament they were at until
Sectionals. Florida winning the South Section where 3 of the top 5
teams in the section play is pretty impressive I'd say.
Even using their UGA records as proof of seed, UNC is +1 vs UGA while
Florida is +5
patri...@gmail.com
> Ask and you shall receive. I am only talking about the ladies, since
> watching men's ultimate is like watching women's ultimate, only with a lot
> more stoppages.
You forgot some other minor things about college men's ultimate
compared to college women's: much greater athleticism, a much deeper
talent base, generally more exciting and much more fast-paced
play...you know, lame things like that.
Hey, you know what really slows play down? Double-digit numbers of
turnovers in a single point. Talk about stoppages...why do an
inordinate number of women's college games at windy tournaments end up
with single-digit scores like 9-4 or 8-7? Oh, I know--it must be the
fundamentally sound defense those ladies play. That must be it.
I like college women's ultimate as much as the next guy; I've seen some
pretty exciting, dramatic games just from NW regionals over the last
few years (obviously I'm biased here, but I'm thinking specifically of
the epic Cal victory over an undefeated Stanford team in '03 and the
controversial Cal-UBC game in '04). But it's ridiculous to deny that
(similarly to college basketball, and for similar reasons) there is
still a significant gap between the men's and women's games, and even
more ridiculous to suggest (as some have equally ridiculously suggested
about basketball) that college women's games are in general _more_
watchable.
And don't worry--in five years I'm sure there'll be a lot more
stoppages in college women's ultimate. The secret that fouling on the
mark* is a really effective way to stop an offense's flow has taken
college men's ultimate by storm in the past decade**. So it's only a
matter of time before the revolution reaches the women's game. (Not to
mention the stunning realization that most players travel routinely,
and that it might be a good idea to call it every so often--another
idea that seems more popular among men than women, at least so far.)
*If you're a college player, change to the euphemistic phrase "marking
'physically,' so that contact is inevitable if the thrower pivots or
slouches a little or maybe takes a deep breath." You know, like your
coach, the club player, tells you. Remember the magic words: "That's my
space! You can't come into my space!"
**Adjust dates back a little if you are from Carolina or Santa Barbara.
--Pat.
ps. Back on topic: I don't want to jinx them, and after that rant I'm
not sure they want my support; but, um, for the third bid in the
women's NW region, after Stanford and UBC, I'd put my money on any team
that's made quarters of nationals for the last three years in a row. If
there is any team with those qualifications. I'm not sure. Maybe
someone should check on that.
samth
> NE: MIT suffered early losses at Yale Cup and Sectionals, but went on
> to win all their games in those tournaments.
I'm not sure what you're referring to here. MIT lost to Cornell in the
4th round of pool play at Yale, and then in quarters to Penn State.
They also lost the last game of Saturday at Sectionals.
sam th
Sam Rapson
> on earth did Iowa State come from?
>
to watch this game? I'm driving 4.5 hours with some friends basically
to see this go down (and cheer on Olaf)
CUT has won the region for something like 15 years and has a
head-to-head win over Madison. Madison is the best team in the
country... who wins? If I'm CUT I'd have started praying to the rain
gods a couple months ago.
http://www.weather.com/weather/weekend/52245?from=36hr_topnav_undeclared
Looks like they might have...
Sam
Kohn
But you're right, that game appears to have the biggest drama of the
weekend.
jt
Sam Rapson wrote:
> > C: Wisconsin and Carleton. Not really any other competition. But where
> > on earth did Iowa State come from?
> >
> Ummm... yeah, the Central region only has ONE bid. Anyone else excited
> to watch this game? I'm driving 4.5 hours with some friends basically
> to see this go down (and cheer on Olaf)
>
> CUT has won the region for something like 15 years and has a
> head-to-head win over Madison. Madison is the best team in the
> country... who wins? If I'm CUT I'd have started praying to the rain
> gods a couple months ago.
She was talkin bout womens. But since you are refering to men, here is
my prediction. Call fest in a heated game for the one shot spot.
Worth the 4.5 drive? If that is round trip, yup.
Sam Rapson
lot of the top teams are from the same schools.
Regardless, the CUT v. Hodag game will be fun to watch.
jtal...@yahoo.com
Oberlin took the 3rd bid to nationals that year.
http://www3.upa.org/events/championships/hallofchamps/collegeopen-qualifiers.shtml
Neva Cherniavsky
Neva Cherniavsky
I find MIT hard to predict because they haven't played the two top teams
out of their region. This begs the question - why haven't they played
Dartmouth or Tufts? The answer is they keep losing early. Yes, they lost
twice early at Yale Cup, the second time in the quarters, but they went on
to finish 5th. Yes they lost early at Sectionals, to a Wellesley team
they beat at Yale Cup, but they went on to win the rest of their games.
MIT was at Nationals last year (and for the past few) and though I don't
expect them to get there this year, they may still surprise one of the top
seeds.
Neva Cherniavsky
UNC 1 pt loss to Stanford, 4 pt loss to Colorado, wins over Davis,
Dartmouth, UW, Michigan.
FUEL 11 pt loss to Colorado, wins over Dartmouth, Michigan, UBC.
Looks like the Stanford and Colorado games are the reasons for the RRI
difference. Lindsey already gave FUEL the #1 seed; I just think UNC's
record is a bit stronger.
Mimmo
Neva Cherniavsky wrote:
> Comparing to Nationals-level competition:
>
> UNC 1 pt loss to Stanford, 4 pt loss to Colorado, wins over Davis,
> Dartmouth, UW, Michigan.
>
> FUEL 11 pt loss to Colorado, wins over Dartmouth, Michigan, UBC.
>
> Looks like the Stanford and Colorado games are the reasons for the RRI
> difference. Lindsey already gave FUEL the #1 seed; I just think UNC's
> record is a bit stronger.
A very valid point, Im lookin forward to this weekend for both sides of
the gender line