34.2 Bravo to Symonds, no run, what's this now? Bravo slips in another
short one down leg stump, Symonds shapes to half-leave, half-tickle it
fine and the ball clips the inside of his glove before Ramdin takes a
good catch down the leg side, they all ask the question but umpire
Benson is unmoved ... oh ho ho, replays show ball did indeed make
contact with the gloves, and Symonds stands his ground, much to the
crowd's displeasure, so West Indies can feel hard done
Isnt umpire Mark Benson the same idiot who made so many horrendous
decisions against India not to mention taking Pontings ADVICE before
declaring an Indian batsman out in the last India vs Aus test series ?
But our western worshipping resident Indian slaves like Geico Caveman
will only attack a black umpire Steve Bucknor for incompetence as usual.
LoL
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> is it in his contract that the umpires will give him one life in every
> innings? what a way to pad your record. not too much integrity in this
> piece of work.
Look he told them he was an Indian and now he gets lifes
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> yup, same gentleman. symonds's career average should be half of what
> it is as he is out twice at least each time he steps out to bat.
Once again would you like to provide facts to back this statement up or is
just another case of your delusions taking hold once again
ok, sydney: out 3 times in one innings; perth, out twice in once
innings, windies tour, out twice in one inning in the previous 2
matches, yesterday out twice. but, don't watch matches and accuse
others of delusions: after all, that is what playing hard and fair is
all about.
=ok, sydney: out 3 times in one innings; perth, out twice in once
innings, windies tour, out twice in one inning in the previous 2
matches, yesterday out twice. but, don't watch matches and accuse
others of delusions: after all, that is what playing hard and fair is
all about.
I think he was either out only once in each of these innings or maybe not
out. It is impossible to be out more than once in an innings
you have taken a ludicrous and asinine position, and therefore do not
deserve a response.
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SO HOW MANY TESTS HAS HE PLAYED ?
each time
each time
YOU ARE A CRETIN
"but I'll give you one anyway"
surely you can find that info on cricinfo?
>
> each time
>
> each time
>
> YOU ARE A CRETIN
for pointing out that this gent gets enormous benefit of horrendous
umpiring, and that he always gestures that he not out even though
players are not supposed to? i think you will find that the cretin
is ....... YOU
symonds is a cheat, and you are a brainless idiot who revels in
supporting cheats. and please, go back and view EACH innings symonds
has played, and see for yourself. mr integrity is out AT LEAST ONCE
before he is given out.
Supposed to?
Somewhere a Truth Angel just died.
oooh, hard and fair, hard and fair
jzfwedwicks: ozzie ozzie ozzie
dechucka, small willy et al: oi oi oi
australia: the cemetery of the truth angels, symonds the assassin
He does that in the Rugby Union group too when defending Convict drug
cheats. Himself and Willy are almost certainly the same man - both
tolerant of all Ozzie misdemeanours while at the same time gloating
about their ill deserved victories over other nations. So very, very
Ocker.
If you must know, I'm English. I've never heartfully supported Oz in
any sport. If I do, it's because the other team must really, really,
really suck - like they just killed 100 kittens or so.
I do enjoy, however, defending ANYONE against the almost constant crap
posted in RSC. That includes Roy, and it included Murali.
Saying Symonds had an obligation to walk or even tell the truth when
asked is, I believe, simply wrong. It's professional sport, they are
paid to win. On the other hand, I much more enjoy it when a batsmen
CHOOSES to walk.
i have not said he had any obligation to walk. i am saying (very
slowly) a) that he benefits from umpiring bloopers with great
frequency ( see cozier on cricinfo:
http://content-ind.cricinfo.com/wivaus/content/current/story/354618.html)
and b) he gestures to the umpire often that he is not out when he must
know he is and that is pretty poor sportsmanship.
capiche?
And you guys wonder why these people are against using technology in
cricket.
Sanjiv Karmarkar
Y'know the same thing happened in Antigua, again with Benson. There
is no way Benson can be this bad, this has to be deliberate.
Perhaps this is the affirmative action for Symonds?
Sanjiv Karmarkar
>> Sanjiv Karmarkar
Naaah........Mark Benson only cares about Australian wins, NOT Symonds
scores.
SPIN of the week.
cricinfo?
What bullshit. How do you know he knows he is out? Can you read minds? You
can't read posts.
And which batsman has never gestured where he believes the ball may have hit
if he has a belief (whether accurate or not) that he is not out - or trying
to be given not out?
Only Australians do it. You have to remember that in this poor things mind
all the sins of cricket are due to the Australians and that anytime they win
it is due to cheating Umpires
Must be a lot of cheating umpires over the past 150 years. :)
Yep and you must also realise that sledging, aggressive appealing and
Bodyline is also Australia's fault and never undertaken by any other
country. This bloke is a sub continent Huggies
evidently you have never played cricket. it is not possible to glove a
ball like symonds did and not know you have gloved it. but if he your
god, then i don't want to spoil you belief system.
no one has said that. just because you take extreme and stupid
positions doesn't mean that everyone else does too.
if you have to walk when you glove the ball do all players do it or does
this rule only apply to Australians. If given out when they have not touched
the ball are they allowed to stay. Players should take the bad decisions
which benefit them or disadvantage them with the same grace.
did you see the match? symonds gloved it and gestured wildly to the
umpire that his hand and bat were miles from the ball. if have not
been watching, can you actually see the footage before taking a
position? you are coming across as someone who shoots off without a
clue of what is being talked about.
also, i have never said he should walk, so you are raising a red
herring there. see my clarification to another symonds-worshipping
cretin earlier in this thread.
=no one has said that. just because you take extreme and stupid
positions doesn't mean that everyone else does too.
sorry look at your own posts
=did you see the match? symonds gloved it and gestured wildly to the
umpire that his hand and bat were miles from the ball. if have not
been watching, can you actually see the footage before taking a
position? you are coming across as someone who shoots off without a
clue of what is being talked about.
yes I have seen the incident in question. So what? it is no different to a
wicketkeeper appealing for a legside catch that they knew wasn't to try and
deflect the Umpires attention away from the fact that the ball was a wide.
Why pick on Symonds in this situation and accuse the Umpires of being biased
+also, i have never said he should walk, so you are raising a red
herring there. see my clarification to another symonds-worshipping
cretin earlier in this thread.
fine if he didn't need to walk what are you getting your knickers in a knot
about.
about idiots like you who refuse to believe that bad umpiring
systematically favours oz and players like symonds are crooks because
they induce it. this inflates both the team win records and individual
records. pay attention will you? you seem to have a very limited
attention span and need to be told everything twice. your mum should
take you to the child psychiologist.
> Yep and you must also realise that sledging, aggressive appealing and
> Bodyline is also Australia's fault and never undertaken by any other
> country. This bloke is a sub continent Huggies
with your whining and constant stream of shit, you seem to be
incontinent in your huggies.
+about idiots like you who refuse to believe that bad umpiring
systematically favours oz
come on prove it with some analysis or is all down to your memory and the
fact that your team is not as good as Australia and you need an excuse?
+ and players like symonds are crooks because
they induce it. this inflates both the team win records and individual
records. pay attention will you?
Australia wins because it is better in that match and lose because the other
team is better. Your team always seems to lose because of the umpires or
cheating opposition or whatever
+you seem to have a very limited attention span and need to be told
everything twice. your mum should
take you to the child psychiologist.
the problem is that you haven't actually said anything logical or provable.
You screaming the same thing over and over again doesn't make it correct
> > fine if he didn't need to walk what are you getting your knickers in a
> > knot
> > about.
>
> +about idiots like you who refuse to believe that bad umpiring
> systematically favours oz
>
> come on prove it with some analysis or is all down to your memory and the
> fact that your team is not as good as Australia and you need an excuse?
come on, watch some matches before running to a nationalist and
fundamentalist defense.
>
> + and players like symonds are crooks because
> they induce it. this inflates both the team win records and individual
> records. pay attention will you?
>
> Australia wins because it is better in that match and lose because the other
> team is better. Your team always seems to lose because of the umpires or
> cheating opposition or whatever
australia has been the best team in the world over the past decade, in
case you need the obvious to be re-stated. but not as good as the
records will have them because of the bensons, tiffins, bucknors and
oxenfords of the world.
>
> +you seem to have a very limited attention span and need to be told
> everything twice. your mum should
> take you to the child psychiologist.
>
> the problem is that you haven't actually said anything logical or provable.
> You screaming the same thing over and over again doesn't make it correct
the problem is that you will not recognise logic and proof if it bit
you in the ass. your denials and defense of bad umpiring is just
pathetic.
> Yep and you must also realise that sledging, aggressive appealing and
> Bodyline is also Australia's fault and never undertaken by any other
> country. This bloke is a sub continent Huggies
+with your whining and constant stream of shit, you seem to be
incontinent in your huggies.
I don't have Huggies but Huggies is full of shit
> > fine if he didn't need to walk what are you getting your knickers in a
> > knot
> > about.
>
> +about idiots like you who refuse to believe that bad umpiring
> systematically favours oz
>
> come on prove it with some analysis or is all down to your memory and the
> fact that your team is not as good as Australia and you need an excuse?
+come on, watch some matches before running to a nationalist and
fundamentalist defense.
I watch all the Australian matches I can
>
> + and players like symonds are crooks because
> they induce it. this inflates both the team win records and individual
> records. pay attention will you?
>
> Australia wins because it is better in that match and lose because the
> other
> team is better. Your team always seems to lose because of the umpires or
> cheating opposition or whatever
+australia has been the best team in the world over the past decade, in
case you need the obvious to be re-stated. but not as good as the
records will have them because of the bensons, tiffins, bucknors and
oxenfords of the world.
really please back this up with facts not your biases
>
> +you seem to have a very limited attention span and need to be told
> everything twice. your mum should
> take you to the child psychiologist.
>
> the problem is that you haven't actually said anything logical or
> provable.
> You screaming the same thing over and over again doesn't make it correct
+the problem is that you will not recognise logic and proof if it bit
you in the ass. your denials and defense of bad umpiring is just
pathetic.
you supply yhe proof and I will accept it OK
Bodyline is Australia's fault ? Damn theres a distortion of facts. Maybe
because Bradman was the best batsman the world has ever seen...then yes.
But other than that i thought England may have been a little at fault
because of Bodyline .. Mind you when it comes right down to it, Australia
is just that good. An i don't remember us bagging the umpires during
bodyline either.
> On Jun 14, 8:12 am, "dechucka" <dechu...@vomithotmail.com> wrote:
>> "subi...@notmail.com" <subi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:2390e096-ad07-4b9c...@r37g2000prm.googlegroups.com
Unfortunately there are no umpires left ? He has have bagged every umpire
in the world including the Parkdale under 14's umpires. Apparently every
one in teh world is Biased towards Aussies... Er.. and so it should be.
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> On Jun 13, 10:45 am, "will_s" <los...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "subi...@notmail.com" <subi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> > yup, same gentleman. symonds's career average should be half of what
>> > it is as he is .
>>
>> Once again would you like to provide facts to back this statement up or
>> is
>> just another case of your delusions taking hold once again
>
> ok, sydney: out 3 times in one innings; perth, out twice in once
> innings, windies tour, out twice in one inning in the previous 2
> matches, yesterday out twice. but, don't watch matches and accuse
> others of delusions: after all, that is what playing hard and fair is
> all about.
How many tests / innings has he played ?
"out twice at least each time he steps out to bat"
So you mention a couple of innings but you said "each time "
So you are a fucking moron
ok, many times, more often than most? does that satisfy you? sample:
india v aus: 4 let offs in 8 innings. aus v wi: 3 let offs in 5
innings.
>
> So you are a fucking moron
free willy.
Seems like a standard comeback- you have never played cricket so you don't
know. Your logic is amazing.
And amazingly, you didn't (or couldn't) answer the second point.
about idiots like you who refuse to believe that bad umpiring
systematically favours oz and players like symonds are crooks because
they induce it. this inflates both the team win records and individual
records. pay attention will you? you seem to have a very limited
attention span and need to be told everything twice. your mum should
take you to the child psychiologist.
Personal insults always expose your logic.
I think you need to look up 'logic' and 'proof' in the obviously
incomplete dictionary you own
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maybe that has some truth in it but your original post was in error
more often then most ? since we dont know the stats for most that is
another statement that you need to withdraw
batsmen have runs, some get it in their favour , others they go against
them. Symonds is having a run where decisions are favouring him
btw: you left out a couple when he was giving out when not out in those
figures
QED: you did not recognise logic and proof when it bit you in the ass.
Again, this seems to be a 'you say what i've said and add "plus
infinity" to the end'
I've never said that sledging or aggressive appealing is solely
confined to Australian cricketers, plenty of other teams do it too.
But whenever I point out an instance of Australia doing it, you deny
it occured, yet you're always quick to bleat if you feel someone has
done it to Australia.
As for Bodyline, that was a massive beat up
Higgs
thankyou for your backdown. Now off to the Soccer World Cup or whatever is
happening now
Huh?
All I was doing was pointing out to the group (as if they needed
reminding) that you're well known for spreading disinformation and
falsehoods on this and other groups.
If you want to make allegations about me, at least have the decency to
try to provide some proof
Higgs
The problem is that it's this continual blind defence of anything any
Australian player does.
Symonds quite clearly gloved it, and then quite clearly gestured that
he didn't touch.
Then we have the Australian view put forward that there's no way that
Symonds would have known whether he touched it or not, which strikes
me as a load of bulldust. The chances would have to be 90% or more in
favour that he *did* know he touched it.
If you're going to mount arguments in his defence, at least make them
credible.
And as for the 'no different to a wicketkeeper appealing for a legside
catch', well, if that really *is* your view, then perhaps you should
refrain from labelling opponents as cheats when they do this sort of
thing against Australia.
Harby wasn't exactly shy over appealing in the recent series in
Australia, and you and several other Aus posters went into meltdown
over his antics.
If you don't have a problem with players who don't walk/appeal for
catches, why do you only criticise non-Australians for doing it?
Higgs
when provided with logic and proof you say 'provide me with logic and
proof', so this is the response you deserve.
Of course it still is, ask McCullum about Boofhead Lee.
+Huh?
+All I was doing was pointing out to the group (as if they needed
reminding) that you're well known for spreading disinformation and
falsehoods on this and other groups.
your well known for being an anti Australian wanker but so what. One who
cannot back up their arguments with facts as I do
+If you want to make allegations about me, at least have the decency to
try to provide some proof
your posts are proof enough
Higgs
So don't defend the unbelievable statements that there's no way
Symonds would have known he gloved it.
If you're happy to defend the fact that he chose not to walk
a) don't criticise other opposing players when they chose to do the
same
b) don't bring in ridiculous arguments about there being no way
Symonds would have known he gloved it
Higgs
I'd love to hear Chucky's defence for all things Ocker if someone like
Symonds was caught with the contents of his mothers medical cabinet
running through his blood following a post match drugs test.
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=So don't defend the unbelievable statements that there's no way
Symonds would have known he gloved it.
I didn't
snip
WOW you see to keep some interesting freinds
>
It might be difficult to decipher, given his regular mangling of the
English language, but I'd hazard a guess that it would take the form
of something along the lines of:
"roy isnt a cheet its the indeans and english that you have to watch
out for
everyone knows that tendulkar and petersan are one steroids and that
petersen slyped drugs into warneys beer
anyway theres noting wrong with using some drugs roy would have a good
reason for using them and i bet his doctor will give him a
prescription for them now that its open as he suffers from nee
infections so he has to take steroids and cocaine"
snip
=It might be difficult to decipher, given his regular mangling of the
English language, but I'd hazard a guess that it would take the form
of something along the lines of:
good to see you back from your sheep fucking. The people at Lane Cove
library are worried about the stains on the animal section . Now go back to
your soccer ngs
The other/ie yours (probably) and mine (certainly)/ie cricket fans pov
is of course that Symonds is an f***ing cheat!
There's a huge diff between not walking on close bat/pad or close to
ground catch decisions (Ump/3rd Ump are there for those, along with
run out and stumpings) and not walking on clear hit and catch
decisions.
As I said Symonds is an f***ing cheat and this Aussie cannot stand the
prick!!!
That international umps are SO BAD as to let him build up a decent
Test ave is a shame for the game.
(And for Mr ave 34 Katich to have a decent Test series is a shame for
the Windies!)
I agree there's a huge difference, but I don't think it's a fair
comparison. In one example you're expecting the player to do the
umpiring, and in the other you're letting the umpire do the umpiring.
It shouldn't be up to players to umpire. Even if they know they've hit
or missed it.
I don't think a professional player should be expected to walk.
On the other hand, I DO think it's cheating when they say "no, i
didn't hit it" (or gesture as such, as Symonds did in this case). That
is effectively lying, and therefore cheating.
That's refreshing to hear.
I had become conditioned to hear Australian posters here defend
absolutely anything by an Australian player (drug taking, bribery
etc).
I tend to agree with your PoV.
Symonds is probably entitled, in the current climate, to await the
umpires decision. Well, he wouldn't be Robinson Crusoe. But to
actively try to cheat (oh look, I didn't touch it) does evoke comment.
It just becomes irksome when certain posters here defend that sort of
behaviour (and then claim they are not biased!)
Higgs