OT: McCain will win for one simple reason
Crapats (TM)
presented with an option to vote for a black or a white, he will
choose the white man. :-(
J Comfort
"Crapats (TM)" <crapa...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> In the privacy of the polling booth when average American white man is
> presented with an option to vote for a black or a white, he will
> choose the white man. :-(
Are you accusing white men to be liars or racists ?
They call it the "Bradley Effect"
jzfredricks
> They call it the "Bradley Effect"
I think the BE is greatly over-estimated.
If (shudder) McEvil wins it will be because the neo-cons have, again,
stolen the election.
Having said that, I think if Obama was white he'd be polling around
70%.... sad, sad America.
J Comfort
"jzfredricks" <jzfre...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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You explicitly implied with your comments that white American men are
"racist".
What would be your analysis about White British Men if Obama is running for
Prime Minister in your country UK ?
jzfredricks
> You explicitly implied with your comments that white American men are
> "racist".
and women
don't be sexist :)
my opinion of White America is very, very low.
> What would be your analysis about White British Men if Obama is running for
> Prime Minister in your country UK ?
I think the UK is fuckload LESS racist than the US. Obama would win in
a landslide in the UK.
However, I've lived in Aus for too long to say that with any
confidence. In Aus, he'd definitely win in a landslide.
raghu.sa...@gmail.com
> On Nov 5, 7:15 am, "J Comfort" <JComfortpurget...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > You explicitly implied with your comments that white American men are
> > "racist".
>
> and women
>
> don't be sexist :)
>
> my opinion of White America is very, very low.
At least in America Obama has been able to go this far, the doorstep
of the presidency!
>
> > What would be your analysis about White British Men if Obama is running for
> > Prime Minister in your country UK ?
>
> I think the UK is fuckload LESS racist than the US. Obama would win in
> a landslide in the UK.
>
> However, I've lived in Aus for too long to say that with any
> confidence. In Aus, he'd definitely win in a landslide.
If you think a person like Obama would go this far in an election in
Australia, RSA or UK you must be smoking something man.
-Raghu
J Comfort
On Nov 5, 7:15 am, "J Comfort" <JComfortpurget...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You explicitly implied with your comments that white American men are
> "racist".
>>and women
>>don't be sexist :)
It was a typo.
>> my opinion of White America is very, very low.
Why do you think White Americans are more racist than White Australians and
White Britishers ?
> What would be your analysis about White British Men if Obama is running
> for
> Prime Minister in your country UK ?
>>I think the UK is fuckload LESS racist than the US. Obama would win in
>> a landslide in the UK.
>>However, I've lived in Aus for too long to say that with any
>> confidence. In Aus, he'd definitely win in a landslide.
Are you sure Obama will win in a landslide in the land of John Howards and
Pauline Hansons ?
Mad Hamish
OTOH it's likely that there will be a boost in voter turnout in the
non-white population and getting your supporters to vote is what wins
elections in the USA
--
"Hope is replaced by fear and dreams by survival, most of us get by."
Stuart Adamson 1958-2001
Mad Hamish
Hamish Laws
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J Comfort
"Mad Hamish" <newsunsp...@iinet.unspamme.net.au> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:57:59 -0800, "J Comfort"
> <JComfort...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Crapats (TM)" <crapa...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>>news:693f7a01-88ae-4a9e...@f37g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>> In the privacy of the polling booth when average American white man is
>>> presented with an option to vote for a black or a white, he will
>>> choose the white man. :-(
>>
>>
>>Are you accusing white men to be liars or racists ?
>>
>>They call it the "Bradley Effect"
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_effect
>>
> OTOH it's likely that there will be a boost in voter turnout in the
> non-white population and getting your supporters to vote is what wins
> elections in the USA
Do you really have to spin anything and everything ?
Jeeesus Christ.....
Jan Buxton
> "jzfredricks" <jzfre...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:80f3e5d5-3c3b-479f...@o4g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>>> confidence. In Aus, he'd definitely win in a landslide.
>
>
>
> Are you sure Obama will win in a landslide in the land of John Howards and
> Pauline Hansons ?
FWIW a Gallup Poll of sorts is hear. Of course doesn't factor in any
"Bradley effect".
http://www.gallup.com/poll/111253/World-Citizens-Prefer-Obama-McCain-More-Than-3to1.aspx
--
Jan
J Comfort
"Mad Hamish" <newsunsp...@iinet.unspamme.net.au> wrote in message
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> <JComfort...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Crapats (TM)" <crapa...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>>news:693f7a01-88ae-4a9e...@f37g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>> In the privacy of the polling booth when average American white man is
>>> presented with an option to vote for a black or a white, he will
>>> choose the white man. :-(
>>
>>
>>Are you accusing white men to be liars or racists ?
>>
>>They call it the "Bradley Effect"
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_effect
>>
> OTOH it's likely that there will be a boost in voter turnout in the
> non-white population and getting your supporters to vote is what wins
> elections in the USA
Republicans have the best organized machine to get their supporters to vote
in USA, for your information.
J Comfort
<raghu.sa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 4, 1:19 pm, jzfredricks <jzfredri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 5, 7:15 am, "J Comfort" <JComfortpurget...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > You explicitly implied with your comments that white American men are
> > "racist".
>
> and women
>
> don't be sexist :)
>
> my opinion of White America is very, very low.
>>At least in America Obama has been able to go this far, the doorstep
>> of the presidency!
Obama wouldnt have made it that far if not for the 8 yr iraq war, the
current financial crisis and 6.3% unemployment rate.
>
> > What would be your analysis about White British Men if Obama is running
> > for
> > Prime Minister in your country UK ?
>
> I think the UK is fuckload LESS racist than the US. Obama would win in
> a landslide in the UK.
>
> However, I've lived in Aus for too long to say that with any
> confidence. In Aus, he'd definitely win in a landslide.
>>If you think a person like Obama would go this far in an election in
>>Australia, RSA or UK you must be smoking something man.
>> -Raghu
RSA has a black president/prime minister.
I think Obama would have made it that far in UK but definitely not in
Australia.
raghu.sa...@gmail.com
> J Comfort wrote:
> > "jzfredricks" <jzfredri...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:80f3e5d5-3c3b-479f...@o4g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> >>> However, I've lived in Aus for too long to say that with any
> >>> confidence. In Aus, he'd definitely win in a landslide.
>
> > Are you sure Obama will win in a landslide in the land of John Howards and
> > Pauline Hansons ?
>
> FWIW a Gallup Poll of sorts is hear. Of course doesn't factor in any
> "Bradley effect".
>
>
> --
> Jan
Well first of all this is a world poll and not one that is just
restricted to ICC controlling countries like Australia, RSA and UK!
Secondly, it is easier for the folks from these countries to say they
support an Obama when they don't have an Obama like choice on hand in
their own country! Ever stop to think why that we have not heard of a
Obama like candidate in those countries in the first place?
Only in USA would a person like Obama aspire and possibly become the
leader of the country not in Australia, UK or RSA!
-Raghu
jzfredricks
> Why do you think White Americans are more racist than White Australians
We (Aus) don't have a Bible Belt.
Mad Hamish
<JComfort...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>"Mad Hamish" <newsunsp...@iinet.unspamme.net.au> wrote in message
>news:e3g1h415u5nk3q049...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:57:59 -0800, "J Comfort"
>> <JComfort...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Crapats (TM)" <crapa...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>>>news:693f7a01-88ae-4a9e...@f37g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>> In the privacy of the polling booth when average American white man is
>>>> presented with an option to vote for a black or a white, he will
>>>> choose the white man. :-(
>>>
>>>
>>>Are you accusing white men to be liars or racists ?
>>>
>>>They call it the "Bradley Effect"
>>>
>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_effect
>>>
>> OTOH it's likely that there will be a boost in voter turnout in the
>> non-white population and getting your supporters to vote is what wins
>> elections in the USA
>
>
>
>
>Republicans have the best organized machine to get their supporters to vote
>in USA, for your information.
>
Yes, but they got a huge voter turnout from the religious right for
Bush in 04 and Obama is likely to drag in a lot of extra people while
McCain isn't and Palin is likely to lose votes in cities (the country
areas might be interesting there though)
Obama is an african-american with a real chance of winning the
election, that's going to get people excited and will probably result
in them actually bothering to vote.
--
jzfredricks
> Only in USA would a person like Obama aspire and possibly become the
> leader of the country not in Australia, UK or RSA!
A person 'like' Obama? You mean black? Or something else?
You know, it's a real shame that people 'like you' seem to spend all
their time and effort poisoning any discussion like this. You are so
divorced from reality that one can't even look at words and think they
are simply contrary.
ps: RSA's first elected pres, in fully representative democratic
election, was black.
raghu.sa...@gmail.com
> <raghu.saklesh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:de99fc7e-8cc8-41bb...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 4, 1:19 pm, jzfredricks <jzfredri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 5, 7:15 am, "J Comfort" <JComfortpurget...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > You explicitly implied with your comments that white American men are
> > > "racist".
>
> > and women
>
> > don't be sexist :)
>
> > my opinion of White America is very, very low.
> >>At least in America Obama has been able to go this far, the doorstep
> >> of the presidency!
>
> Obama wouldnt have made it that far if not for the 8 yr iraq war, the
> current financial crisis and 6.3% unemployment rate.
>
Thats being disingenuous to Obama's campaign and the candidate
himself! If you have closely followed the election, the campaigning
you would see it was run smartly and I think could have given the run
for the money to its competitors even if the above reasons did not
exist.
By the way the war in Iraq has been on for 5 years.
>
>
> > > What would be your analysis about White British Men if Obama is running
> > > for
> > > Prime Minister in your country UK ?
>
> > I think the UK is fuckload LESS racist than the US. Obama would win in
> > a landslide in the UK.
>
> > However, I've lived in Aus for too long to say that with any
> > confidence. In Aus, he'd definitely win in a landslide.
> >>If you think a person like Obama would go this far in an election in
> >>Australia, RSA or UK you must be smoking something man.
> >> -Raghu
>
> RSA has a black president/prime minister.
>
I stand corrected :)
> I think Obama would have made it that far in UK but definitely not in
> Australia.
-Raghu
J Comfort
<raghu.sa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 4, 1:44 pm, Jan Buxton <j...@eidosnet.co.uk> wrote:
> J Comfort wrote:
> > "jzfredricks" <jzfredri...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:80f3e5d5-3c3b-479f...@o4g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> >>> However, I've lived in Aus for too long to say that with any
> >>> confidence. In Aus, he'd definitely win in a landslide.
>
> > Are you sure Obama will win in a landslide in the land of John Howards
> > and
> > Pauline Hansons ?
>
> FWIW a Gallup Poll of sorts is hear. Of course doesn't factor in any
> "Bradley effect".
>
> http://www.gallup.com/poll/111253/World-Citizens-Prefer-Obama-McCain-...
>
> --
> Jan
>>Well first of all this is a world poll and not one that is just
>>restricted to ICC controlling countries like Australia, RSA and UK!
>>Secondly, it is easier for the folks from these countries to say they
>>support an Obama when they don't have an Obama like choice on hand in
>>their own country!
Very good point. I was gonna post it myself and you beat me to it.
>>Ever stop to think why that we have not heard of a
>>Obama like candidate in those countries in the first place?
>>Only in USA would a person like Obama aspire and possibly become the
>>leader of the country not in Australia, UK or RSA!
>>-Raghu
In this instance, you are plain wrong in your deductions.
Obama wouldnt have made it that far if not for the 8 yr iraq war, the
current financial crisis and 6.3% unemployment rate.
RSA has a black president/prime minister.
I think Obama would have made it that far in UK but definitely not in
Australia.
J Comfort
On Nov 5, 7:35 am, "J Comfort" <JComfortpurget...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Why do you think White Americans are more racist than White Australians
>> We (Aus) don't have a Bible Belt.
One can be completely non-religious and still be racist.
raghu.sa...@gmail.com
Not sure who you are asking this question. But I think the opposite.
The very fact that a white majority country like USA is on the verge
of having its first black president, not some one elected as a token
for affirmative action, but some one who is getting elected because he
IS the best person to win! It is a testimony that not all of USA is
racist. There may be pockets in the country side with racist mentality
but that kind of minorities with extreme views can be found in all
other countries too..
-Raghu
jzfredricks
> Republicans have the best organized machine to get their supporters to vote
> in USA, for your information.
HAD. Last election.
Very different this time around.
jzfredricks
> Obama wouldnt have made it that far if not for the 8 yr iraq war, the
> current financial crisis and 6.3% unemployment rate.
Saying any candidate wouldn't have made it this far without Iraq is
pointless. Iraq HAPPENED. It's history. It's IMPORTANT history. It's a
fact that cannot be changed, and ofc it has a bearing on the
candidates policies.
As for the financial crisis (and I'll lump unemployment in with it)...
I think, rightly, that it has had a negative effect on GOP support.
However, I think there were two bigger factors that aided Obama;
1) The debates
2) Palin
Obama's poll numbers started changing after the FIRST debate. Leading
up to it McCain and Obama were pretty close. After the first debate
people finally realised that Obama was more than ready to be Pres.
Before that there was some doubt due to his age, lack of experience
and short Senate role. Combined with McCain being edgy/grumpy, Obama's
numbers started to swing up.
Palin: Yikes. What a mistake. Elections are won/lost with the swing
voters. The GOP could not have made a bigger mistake than picking
Palin.
J Comfort
<raghu.sa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 4, 1:54 pm, jzfredricks <jzfredri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 5, 7:35 am, "J Comfort" <JComfortpurget...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Why do you think White Americans are more racist than White Australians
>
> We (Aus) don't have a Bible Belt.
>>Not sure who you are asking this question. But I think the opposite.
>>The very fact that a white majority country like USA is on the verge
>>of having its first black president, not some one elected as a token
>>r affirmative action, but some one who is getting elected because he
>> the best person to win! It is a testimony that not all of USA is
>>cist. There may be pockets in the country side with racist mentality
>>t that kind of minorities with extreme views can be found in all
>>her countries too..
>> Raghu
Obama wouldnt have made it that far if not for the 8 yr iraq war, the
current financial crisis and 6.3% unemployment rate.
Most of the blue collar white americans are voting for Obama because they
lost their jobs, homes and their 401k shrunk by 50%.
McCain would have won this election if NOT for those three factors.
J Comfort
> On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:45:12 -0800, "J Comfort"
> <JComfort...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mad Hamish" <newsunsp...@iinet.unspamme.net.au> wrote in message
>>news:e3g1h415u5nk3q049...@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:57:59 -0800, "J Comfort"
>>> <JComfort...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Crapats (TM)" <crapa...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>news:693f7a01-88ae-4a9e...@f37g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> In the privacy of the polling booth when average American white man is
>>>>> presented with an option to vote for a black or a white, he will
>>>>> choose the white man. :-(
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Are you accusing white men to be liars or racists ?
>>>>
>>>>They call it the "Bradley Effect"
>>>>
>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_effect
>>>>
>>> OTOH it's likely that there will be a boost in voter turnout in the
>>> non-white population and getting your supporters to vote is what wins
>>> elections in the USA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Republicans have the best organized machine to get their supporters to
>>vote
>>in USA, for your information.
>>
>
> Yes, but they got a huge voter turnout from the religious right for
> Bush in 04 and Obama is likely to drag in a lot of extra people while
> McCain isn't and Palin is likely to lose votes in cities (the country
> areas might be interesting there though)
How stupid the Americans would be if they consider this woman Palin for the
white house in 2012.
> Obama is an african-american with a real chance of winning the
> election,
Obama is half white - half black.
>that's going to get people excited and will probably result
> in them actually bothering to vote.
Democratic campaign strategists outsmarted the republican campaign
strategists this time around unlike in 2000 and 2004.
jzfredricks
> McCain would have won this election if NOT for those three factors.
They lost their jobs and homes a long time ago, ie before the DNC.
As for the financial crisis, Obama's poll lead happened BEFORE this
crisis.
The polls have barely changed post-crisis.
J Comfort
>>HAD. Last election.
Republicans still have the best organized campaign machine compared to the
Democrats even now.
Its just that republicans can't get majority of the blue collar whites to
vote for McCain this time for various reasons.
Brijesh
Yeah sure :))
In Australia he would be banned for three elections for carrying the
Monkey God (Hanuman) with him and thereby offending Andrew Symonds
PS: Yes he DOES carry Hanuman with him because he believes it gives
him luck
J Comfort
<raghu.sa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 4, 1:49 pm, "J Comfort" <JComfortpurget...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> <raghu.saklesh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:de99fc7e-8cc8-41bb...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 4, 1:19 pm, jzfredricks <jzfredri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 5, 7:15 am, "J Comfort" <JComfortpurget...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > You explicitly implied with your comments that white American men are
> > > "racist".
>
> > and women
>
> > don't be sexist :)
>
> > my opinion of White America is very, very low.
> >>At least in America Obama has been able to go this far, the doorstep
> >> of the presidency!
>
> Obama wouldnt have made it that far if not for the 8 yr iraq war, the
> current financial crisis and 6.3% unemployment rate.
>
>>Thats being disingenuous to Obama's campaign and the candidate
>>himself! If you have closely followed the election, the campaigning
>>you would see it was run smartly and I think could have given the run
>>for the money to its competitors even if the above reasons did not
>>exist.
Nope.
If not for the three reasons I mentioned, Obama would have lost no matter
how smart the democratic campaign strategists are.
>>By the way the war in Iraq has been on for 5 years.
It wont change my argument whether it is 5 yrs or 8 yrs.
Okay its a 7 yr Afghan and Iraq wars combined.
J Comfort
On Nov 5, 7:49 am, "J Comfort" <JComfortpurget...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Obama wouldnt have made it that far if not for the 8 yr iraq war, the
> current financial crisis and 6.3% unemployment rate.
>>Saying any candidate wouldn't have made it this far without Iraq is
>>pointless.
We are NOT talking about "any" candidate. We are talking about Obama who is
half black half white.
>>Iraq HAPPENED. It's history. It's IMPORTANT history. It's a
>>fact that cannot be changed, and ofc it has a bearing on the
>> candidates policies.
Your comment has not proved my argument wrong.
>>As for the financial crisis (and I'll lump unemployment in with it)...
>>I think, rightly, that it has had a negative effect on GOP support.
>>However, I think there were two bigger factors that aided Obama;
>>1) The debates
>>2) Palin
If this is your best argument, you have no clue about politics.
>>Obama's poll numbers started changing after the FIRST debate. Leading
>>up to it McCain and Obama were pretty close. After the first debate
>>people finally realised that Obama was more than ready to be Pres.
>>Before that there was some doubt due to his age, lack of experience
>>and short Senate role. Combined with McCain being edgy/grumpy, Obama's
>>numbers started to swing up.
Debates matter if all other factors are equal/neutral.
>>Palin: Yikes. What a mistake. Elections are won/lost with the swing
>>voters. The GOP could not have made a bigger mistake than picking
>>Palin.
GOP is already talking about Palin in 2012.
The swing voters mostly will vote for Obama this time because of iraq war
mess, financial crisis and 6.3% unemployment rate and not because of Palin.
George Bush Sr would have won in 1992 vs Clinton if NOT for the messy
economy and unemployment rate.
I just heard on MSNBC, 90% of the voters said "economy" is the most
important factor that influenced their vote.
J Comfort
I am begging you to NOT discuss politics anymore. You have absolutely no
clue what you are talking about.
Crapats (TM)
> You explicitly implied with your comments that white American men are
> "racist".
I don't believe it's racism as such as much as fear of the unknown
i.e. the devil you know versus the devil you don't ...
Crapats (TM)
<newsunspammel...@iinet.unspamme.net.au> wrote:
> Obama is an african-american with a real chance of winning the
> election, that's going to get people excited and will probably result
> in them actually bothering to vote.
Obama is not African-American. His father is Kenyan and his other a
white American. The term African-American is used to refer to
Americans who are descendents of the African slaves.
Tariq
> Yes, but they got a huge voter turnout from the religious right for
> Bush in 04 and Obama is likely to drag in a lot of extra people while
> McCain isn't and Palin is likely to lose votes in cities (the country
> areas might be interesting there though)
>
> Obama is an african-american with a real chance of winning the
> election, that's going to get people excited and will probably result
> in them actually bothering to vote.
As per CNN, the Black Voters have increased by 1% & overall new
voters have reduced by 1% as compared to 2004.
However, I still think Obama will will still win on the back of white
liberal guilt. The only person I can think of who was less deserving
to become a president was probably George W Bush.
Tariq
Rove would have been proud of it.
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Steven Davies-Morris
> In the privacy of the polling booth when average American white man
> is presented with an option to vote for a black or a white, he
> will choose the white man. :-(
Nice reverse woof there...McCain on track to a heavy electoral college
defeat, along with a bunch of Senate seats that were Republican going
Democratic. And all of that is without the ultra-Blue California even
yet being a factor. I have the champagne chilling. Sweet.
--
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J Comfort
Your comment explicitly implied White American Men are racist.
Now you are trying to cover it up with an idiotic and illogical statement.
This is what you said in case you forgot:
Crapats (TM)
wrote:
> Nice reverse woof there...McCain on track to a heavy electoral college
> defeat, along with a bunch of Senate seats that were Republican going
> Democratic. And all of that is without the ultra-Blue California even
> yet being a factor. I have the champagne chilling. Sweet.
> --
> Cheers, SDM -- a 21st Century Schizoid Man
> Systems Theory internet music project: <www.systemstheory.net>
> on MySpace: <www.myspace.com/systemstheory>
> on Last FM: <www.last.fm/music/Systems+Theory>
> get "Codetalkers" *free* at <www.mikedickson.org.uk/codetalkers>
> NP: nothing
Reverse woof? I was woofing mate. Woofing good. My faith in the USA
has been restored after that fuckwit George W Bush very nearly
destroyed it all. God Bless Obama and God Bless the USA!
Crapats (TM)
> Your comment explicitly implied White American Men are racist.
>
> Now you are trying to cover it up with an idiotic and illogical statement.
>
> This is what you said in case you forgot:
>
> " In the privacy of the polling booth when average American white man is
> presented with an option to vote for a black or a white, he will
> choose the white man. :-( "
I can't see how this implies racism. It is about a choice between what
you know and what you don't know. Nothing about hating blacks or
whites.
If you think my statement was about racism then you're a fucking
retard.
jzfredricks
> Your comment explicitly implied White American Men are racist.
Just one thing;
when people in Aus talk about 'White America', there's an automatic
implication of racism, as to us* that is PART of the definition of
'White America'.
'Caucasian America' is something entirely different.
* generally speaking, as I obviously don't speak for ALL of Aus.
SultanOfSwing
Technically speaking, Obama is the son of an African immigrant
(his father was Kenyan) and a white American. So that does make
him "African-American" in a sense, though he is obviously, *not*
a descendant of any African slaves brought to America. And he
does command a huge share of the African-American vote, which
is a "no-brainer", anyways. Obama, throughout his campaign,
continually stressed that this election was not about race.
But whether Obama liked it or not, race was a significant
"sub-text" in the battle for the US Presidency.
J Comfort
On Nov 5, 5:59 pm, "J Comfort" <JComfortpurget...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Your comment explicitly implied White American Men are racist.
>
> Now you are trying to cover it up with an idiotic and illogical statement.
>
> This is what you said in case you forgot:
>
> " In the privacy of the polling booth when average American white man is
> presented with an option to vote for a black or a white, he will
> choose the white man. :-( "
>>I can't see how this implies racism.
"Yes you can"......lol...... Thats exactly what you implied.
> It is about a choice between what
>>you know and what you don't know.
What is it that White American Men dont know about Black Men ?
You can spin all you want but the proof is in your comments.
>Nothing about hating blacks or
>> whites.
Ofcourse it is.
>> If you think my statement was about racism then you're a fucking
>> retard.
Its extremely rare criminals plead guilty. Likewise I dont expect you to
plead guilty of your racism.
You never complain about the chucking of Brett Lee, Shaun Tait, Dale Steyn
and Kyle Mills but will obssessively complain about Murali, Razzaq and
Samuels.
Go see a shrink for your obssession of Murali the greatest spinner of all
time.
dechucka
> In the privacy of the polling booth when average American white man is
> presented with an option to vote for a black or a white, he will
> choose the white man. :-(
great call
Straig...@y7mail.com
fooling these western RACIST boreturds.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You fools are born to amuse me
LMAO
Crapats (TM)
Crapats (TM)
> Its extremely rare criminals plead guilty. Likewise I dont expect you to
> plead guilty of your racism.
>
> You never complain about the chucking of Brett Lee, Shaun Tait, Dale Steyn
> and Kyle Mills but will obssessively complain about Murali, Razzaq and
> Samuels.
>
> Go see a shrink for your obssession of Murali the greatest spinner of all
> time.
Damn it. How did you get out of my kill file you little fucking piece
of shit? Back you get in there. Back you get and there you shall rot
you little mother fucker.
J Comfort
<Straig...@y7mail.com> wrote in message
news:d130a6f2-0c9b-423f...@c36g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
They can add my name to CIA, NSA, Secret Service, Interpol, MI-6, MI-5 list
but that wont change my behavior or attitude one iota.
You see I am not a westerner to behave like the nicest guy in the world once
I am put under surveillance or watch list.
AliKB
Where have you been. Just before Lehman Brother collapsed, both were
pretty much even. And at that time Iraq war was the main issue. As
soon as the wall street mess started, McCain's numbers started to go
down. Economy is the only reason he lost. And the fact that he would
have continued to spend billions of dollars on Iraq/Afghan war each
month, when Americans are struggling at home.
jzfredricks
> Economy is the only reason he lost.
I was just trying to point out there are MORE reasons than the
economy.
I think GWB is ANOTHER of the big reasons. He'll go down as the most
hated pres ever, and that equated to a lot of votes.
dechucka
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He didn't get elected because he was black but because the other side of
septic politics were stuffed