STATS: Highest First class scores
Phil Shead
Upto and including 1985 English Season.
499 Hanif Mohammad Karachi v Bahawalpur Karachi 1958-9
452* D.G. Bradman New South Wales v Queensland Sydney 1929-30
443* B.B. Nimbalkar Maharashtra v Kathiawar Poona 1948-9
437 W.H. Ponsford Victoria v Queensland Melbourne 1927-8
429 W.H. Ponsford Victoria v Tasmania Melbourne 1922-3
428 Aftab Baloch Sind v Baluchistan Karachi 1973-4
422 A.C. MacLaren Lancashire v Somerset Taunton 1895
385 B. Sutcliffe Otago v Canterbury Christchurch 1952-3
383 D.W. Gregory New South Wales v Queensland Brisbane 1906-7
369 D.G. Bradman South Australia v Tasmania Adelaide 1935-6
365* C. Hill South Australia v New South Wales Adelaide1900-1
365* G. St. A. Sobers West Indies v Pakistan Kingston 1957-8
364 L Hutton England v Australia Oval 1938
359* V.M. Merchant Bombay v Maharashtra Bombay 1943-4
359 R.B. Simpson New South Wales v Queensland Brisbane 1963-4
357* R. Abel Surrey v Somerset Oval 1899
357 D.G. Bradman South Australia v Victoria Melbourne 1935-6
356 B.A. Richards South Australia v Western Australia Perth 1970-1
355 B. Sutcliffe Otago v Auckland Dunedin 1949-50
352 W.H. Ponsford Victoria v New South Wales Melbourne 1935-6
350 Rashid Israr Habib Bank v National Bank Lahore 1976-7
345 C.G. Macartney Australians v Nottinghamshire Nottingham 1921
344* G.A. Headley Jamaica v Lord Tennyson's XI Kingston 1931-2
344 W.G. Grace MCC v Kent Canterbury 1876
343* P.A. Perrin Essex v Derbyshire Chesterfield 1904
341 G.H. Hirst Yorkshire v Leicestershire Leicester 1905
340* D.G. Bradman New South Wales v Victoria Sydney 1928-9
340 S.M. Gavasker Bombay v Bengal Bombay 1981-2
338* R.C. Blunt Otago v Canterbury Christchurch 1931-2
338 W.W. Read Surrey v Oxford University Oval 1888
337* Pervez Akhtar Railways v Dera Ismail Khan Lahore 1964-5
337 Hanif Mohammad Pakistan v West Indies Bridgetown 1957-8
336* W.R. Hammond England v New Zealand Auckland 1932-3
336 W.H. Ponsford Victoria v South Australia Melbourne 1927-8
334 D.G. Bradman Australia v England Leeds 1930
333 K.S. Duleepsinhji Sussex v Northamptonshire Hove 1930
332 W.H. Ashdown Kent v Essex Brentwood 1934
331* J.D.B. Robertson Middlesex v Worcestershire Worcester 1949
325* H.S.T.L. Hendry Victoria v New Zealanders Melbourne 1925-6
325 A. Sandham England v West Indies Kingston 1929-30
325 C.L. Badcock South Australia v Victoria Adelaide 1935-6
324 J.B. Stollmeyer Trinidad v British Guiana Port-of-Spain 1946-7
324 Waheed Mirza Karachi Whites v Quetta Karachi 1976-7
323 A.L. Wadeka Bombay v Mysore Bombay 1966-7
322 E. Paynter Lancashire v Sussex Hove 1937
322 I.V.A. Richards Somerset v Warwickshire Taunton 1985
321 W.L. Murdoch New South Wales v Victoria Sydney 1881-2
319 Gaul Mahomed Baroda v Holkar Baroda 1946-7
318* W.G. Grace Gloucestershire v Yorkshire Cheltenham 1876
317 W.R. Hammond Gloucestershire v Nott'shire Gloucester 1936
316* J.R. Hobbs Surrey v Middlesex Lord's 1026
316* V.S. Hazare Maharashtra v Baroda Poona 1939-40
316 R.H. Moore Hampshire v Warwickshire Bournemouth 1937
315* T.W. Hayward Surrey v Lancashire Oval 1898
315* P. Holmes Yorkshire v Middlesex Lord's 1925
315* A.F. Kippax New South Wales v Queensland Sydney 1927-8
314* C.L. Walcott Barbados v Trinidad Port-of-Spain 1945-6
313 H. Sutcliffe Yorkshire v Essex Leyton 1932
312* W.W. Keeton Nottinghamshire v Middlesex Oval 1939
311* G.M. Turner Worcestershire v Warwickshire Worcester 1982
311 J.T. Brown Yorkshire v Sussex Sheffield 1897
311 R.B. Simpson Australia v England Manchester 1964
311 Javed Miandad Karachi Whites v National Bank Karachie 1974-5
310 J.H. Edrich England v New Zealand Leeds 1965
310 H. Gimblett Somerset v Sussex Eastbourne 1948
309 V.S. Hazare Rest v Hindus Bombay 1943-4
308* F.M.M. Worrell Barbados v Trinidad Bridgetown 1943-4
307 M.C Cowdrey MCC v South Australia Adelaide 1962-3
307 R.M. Cowper Australia v England Melbourne 1965-6
306* A. Ducat Surrey v Oxford University Oval 1919
306* E.A.B. Rowan Transvaal v Natal Johannesburg 1939-40
305* F.E. Wooley MCC v Tasmania Hobart 1911-2
305* F.R. Foster Warwickshire v Worcestershire Dudley 1914
305* W.H. Ashdown Kent v Derbyshire Dover 1935
304* P.H. Tarilton Barbados v Tinidad Bridgetown 1919-20
304* A.W. Nourse Natal v Transvaal Johannesburg 1919-20
304* E.de C. Weekes West Indians v Cambridge Uni Cambridge 1950
304 R.M. Poore Hampshire v Somerset Taunton 1899
304 D.G. Bradman Australia v England Leeds 1934
303* W.W. Armstrong Australians v Somerset Bath 1905
303* Mushtaq Mohammad Karachi Blues v Karachi Uni Karachi 1967-8
302* P. Holmes Yorkshire v Hampshire Portsmouth 1920
302* W.R. Hammond Gloucestershire v Glamorgan Bristol 1934
302 W.R. Hammond Gloucestershire v Glamorgan Newport 1939
302 L.G. Rowe West Indies v England Bridgetown 1973-4
301* E.H. Hendren Middlesex v Worcestershire Dudley 1933
301 W.G. Grace Gloucestershire v Sussex Bristol 1896
300* V.T. Trumper Australians v Sussex Hove 1899
300* F.B. Watson Lancashire v Surrey Manchester 1928
300* Imtiaz Ahmed PM's XI v Commonwealth Bombay 1950-1
300 J.T. Brown Yorkshire v Derbyshire Chesterfield 1898
300 D.C.S Compton MCC v N.E. Transvaal Benoni 1948-9
300 R. Subba Row Northamptonshire v Surrey Oval 1958
After 1985
405 G. Hick
375 B.C. Lara West Indies v England 1994
355* G.R. Marsh Western Australia v South Australia Perth 1989-90
333 G.A. Gooch England v India 1990
306* D.W. Hookes South Australia v Tasmania Adelaide 1986-7
Most double centuries ---
Three players have more than 20 double centuries they are :
(in order of occurence)
D.G. Bradman : 340*,225,452*,236,252*,254,334,232,205*,258,223,220,226,219
299*,238,200,253,206,304,244,233,357,369,212,270,212,246,258
278,202,225,251*,267,209*,234,201
W.R. Hammond : 250*,238*,205*,218*,244,225,251,200,238*,211*,264,203,227,336*
206,239,231,264,290,217,265*,302*,281*,252,217,317,231*,217
237,240,271,302,207,211*,214,208
The other player I will leave to you to figure out as a quiz but
his scores are :
214,201,232,271,277*,200*,234,240,206*,213,201*,200,209*,223*
211*,205*,254*,232*,203,>300,222*,202
Batting Figures for
Timespan I NO Runs HS Avge 100 1000
J.B. Hobbs 1905-1934 1315 106 61237 316* 50.65 197 24+2
F.E. Woolley 1906-1938 1530 84 58959 305* 40.77 145 28
E.H. Hendren 1907-1938 1300 166 57611 301* 50.80 170 21+4
C.P Mead 1905-1936 1340 185 55061 280* 47.67 153 27
W.G. Grace 1865-1908 1493 105 54896 344 39.55 126 28
W.R. Hammond 1920-1951 1005 104 50551 336* 56.10 167 17+5
H. Sutcliffe 1919-1945 1088 123 50138 313 51.95 149 21+3
T.W. Graveney 1948-1971 1223 159 47793 258 44.91 122 20+2
G. Boycott 1962-1985 994 161 47434 261* 56.94 149 23+3
T.W. Hayward 1893-1914 1138 96 43551 315* 41.79 104 20
.
.
.
D.G. Bradman 1927-1948 338 43 28067 452* 95.14 117 4+12
1000 = 1000 seasons (in England + outside England).
Vishal Misra
Phil> After 1985
Phil> 405 G. Hick 375 B.C. Lara West Indies v England 1994 355*
Phil> G.R. Marsh Western Australia v South Australia Perth 1989-90
Phil> 333 G.A. Gooch England v India 1990 306* D.W. Hookes South
Phil> Australia v Tasmania Adelaide 1986-7
I think Sanjay Manjarekar hit a triple century for Bombay (377) about
three years ago. Anyone confirm this?
-Vishal
Spaceman Spiff
Shead) says:
>
>324 Waheed Mirza Karachi Whites v Quetta Karachi 1976-7
>
a few days back. well, he didn't. but he did share a world record opening
partnership of 561 with the bloke above. mansoor got 224*.
plus, i think phil's post-1985 stats are confined to england/australia/SA and
don't include india.
some 300+ scores in india in the past 5-6 years:
raman lamba got 323(?) in the duleep trophy a few years ago.
sanjay majrekar got 377.
there was that strange ranji trophy match a few years ago when both w.v. raman
(312?) and arjan singh (303*) got triple centuries.
any more that anyone can think of? anyone have a copy of Indian Cricket?
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In article <2pfd4c$g...@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au>, dri...@Deakin.Edu.Au (Phil Shead) writes:
>
> Upto and including 1985 English Season.
>
>499 Hanif Mohammad Karachi v Bahawalpur Karachi 1958-9
>452* D.G. Bradman New South Wales v Queensland Sydney 1929-30
>443* B.B. Nimbalkar Maharashtra v Kathiawar Poona 1948-9
>437 W.H. Ponsford Victoria v Queensland Melbourne 1927-8
>429 W.H. Ponsford Victoria v Tasmania Melbourne 1922-3
>428 Aftab Baloch Sind v Baluchistan Karachi 1973-4
>422 A.C. MacLaren Lancashire v Somerset Taunton 1895
I seem to recall the Don squaring a quad for Australia versus Surrey
(Somerset?) the one time Australia made 700-odd in a single day. Is
my memory fading, am I caught in a time warp, or does that not count
as a first class match?
>300 R. Subba Row Northamptonshire v Surrey Oval 1958
Also, heartbreakingly,
299* D.G. Bradman (ran out of partners just short of his 3rd triple in Tests)
details anyone?
299 M.G. Crowe vs Sri Lanka
How anyone can look at these figures and say that the Don is not the
greatest bat of all time, I can't imagine. His figures dwarf those of
his contemporaries, predecessors, and those who came after him, by
such a high margin, that any comparison between the Don and anyone
else, is ludicrous.
>1000 = 1000 seasons (in England + outside England).
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vmi...@spock.ecs.umass.edu (Vishal Misra) wrote:
How about Darryl Cullinan 337 for Transvaal vs Northern Transvaal 1993
(believe it or not!) and Terence Lazard 307 Border vs Western Province
1993.
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Ian Sanders <i...@concave.cs.wits.ac.za> wrote:
>How about Darryl Cullinan 337 for Transvaal vs Northern Transvaal 1993
>(believe it or not!) and Terence Lazard 307 Border vs Western Province
>1993.
or Neil Fairbrothers 366 against Surrey in 1988?
ochie
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> After 1985
>
> 405 G. Hick
> 375 B.C. Lara West Indies v England 1994
> 333 G.A. Gooch England v India 1990
Jimmy Cook scored a triple centry (313?) for Somerset during
one of his three incredibly successful seasons there (1990-92).
Does anyone have a comprehensive and accurate list of first class
scores over 300 since 1985?
Ros.
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Dinesh Katiyar
Neeran M. Karnik <kar...@cs.umn.edu> wrote:
>Spaceman Spiff <SXK...@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>In the Ranji Trophy:
>Raman, Woorkeri 313 for TamilNadu vs Goa at Panjim, 1988-89
>Arjan Kripal Singh 302* for TamilNadu vs Goa at Panjim, 1988-89
>
>(near misses)
>
>Sugwekar, Shantanu 299* for Maharashtra vs MadhyaPradesh at Pune, 1988-89
>Gurusharan Singh 298* for Punjab vs Bengal at Calcutta, 1988-89
>
>Since 1992, at least one HUGE score has been added to this list. M.V.
>Sridhar scored 366 for Hyderabad vs Andhra Pradesh in the 1993-94
>season (at Hyderabad?).
>
>The 1988-89 season seems to have been even more of a batsman's season
>than usual :-) Apart from the four scores above, Surendra Bhave scored
>274 against Bombay, W.V.Raman got another 238 against Bengal and 200 vs
>Maharashtra, Manoj Prabhakar got a 229* against HimachalPradesh, Amre
>got 214* against Vidarbha (he was still playing for Railways at that
>time), Ashok Malhotra and S. Phadkar (Vidarbha) also got double
>tons..... all in the Ranji Trophy... amazing!
>
>>Spaceman Spiff
>
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I wonder if the ball was JUICED :-)
Raja Jasti
Devadatta Mukutmoni
>
> 211*,205*,254*,232*,203,>300,222*,202
Was it Ken Barrington?
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Neeran M. Karnik
>some 300+ scores in india in the past 5-6 years:
[...]
>any more that anyone can think of? anyone have a copy of Indian Cricket?
Ok, Indian Cricket 1992 edition here. (BTW, I'm told that the 1993
edition is not *yet* available. Howzzat?)
Duleep Trophy:
Player Score for vs Year
Lamba, Raman 320 NZ WZ 1987-88
In the Ranji Trophy:
Manjrekar, Sanjay 377 for Bombay vs Hyderabad at Bombay, 1990-91
Raman, Woorkeri 313 for TamilNadu vs Goa at Panjim, 1988-89
Azeem, Abdul 303* for Hyderabad vs TamilNadu at Hyderabad, 1986-87
Phil Shead
>In article <2pfd4c$g...@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au>, dri...@Deakin.Edu.Au (Phil Shead) writes:
>> Upto and including 1985 English Season.
>>499 Hanif Mohammad Karachi v Bahawalpur Karachi 1958-9
>>452* D.G. Bradman New South Wales v Queensland Sydney 1929-30
>>443* B.B. Nimbalkar Maharashtra v Kathiawar Poona 1948-9
>>437 W.H. Ponsford Victoria v Queensland Melbourne 1927-8
>>429 W.H. Ponsford Victoria v Tasmania Melbourne 1922-3
>>428 Aftab Baloch Sind v Baluchistan Karachi 1973-4
>>422 A.C. MacLaren Lancashire v Somerset Taunton 1895
>I seem to recall the Don squaring a quad for Australia versus Surrey
>(Somerset?) the one time Australia made 700-odd in a single day. Is
>my memory fading, am I caught in a time warp, or does that not count
>as a first class match?
If you mean the time Australia made 721 against Essex in 48 then
the Don even failed to make a double he only made 187, Bill Brown,
Sam Loxton and Ron Saggers all made centuries whilst Syd Barnes chipped
in along with a few others. The tail failed and legend has it Miller
allowed the ball to hit the stumps on his first delivery such was the
carnage.
>>300 R. Subba Row Northamptonshire v Surrey Oval 1958
>Also, heartbreakingly,
>299* D.G. Bradman (ran out of partners just short of his 3rd triple in Tests)
> details anyone?
>299 M.G. Crowe vs Sri Lanka
Of course Crowe only has himself to blame for this
>> Three players have more than 20 double centuries they are :
>>(in order of occurence)
>>D.G. Bradman : 340*,225,452*,236,252*,254,334,232,205*,258,223,220,226,219
>> 299*,238,200,253,206,304,244,233,357,369,212,270,212,246,258
>> 278,202,225,251*,267,209*,234,201
>>W.R. Hammond : 250*,238*,205*,218*,244,225,251,200,238*,211*,264,203,227,336*
>> 206,239,231,264,290,217,265*,302*,281*,252,217,317,231*,217
>> 237,240,271,302,207,211*,214,208
>>The other player I will leave to you to figure out as a quiz but
>>his scores are :
>> 214,201,232,271,277*,200*,234,240,206*,213,201*,200,209*,223*
>> 211*,205*,254*,232*,203,>300,222*,202
Still nobody has given me the answer to this, I'll add that he played well
over fifty tests for his country.
>> Batting Figures for
>> Timespan I NO Runs HS Avge 100 1000
>>J.B. Hobbs 1905-1934 1315 106 61237 316* 50.65 197 24+2
>>F.E. Woolley 1906-1938 1530 84 58959 305* 40.77 145 28
>>E.H. Hendren 1907-1938 1300 166 57611 301* 50.80 170 21+4
>>C.P Mead 1905-1936 1340 185 55061 280* 47.67 153 27
>>W.G. Grace 1865-1908 1493 105 54896 344 39.55 126 28
>>W.R. Hammond 1920-1951 1005 104 50551 336* 56.10 167 17+5
>>H. Sutcliffe 1919-1945 1088 123 50138 313 51.95 149 21+3
>>T.W. Graveney 1948-1971 1223 159 47793 258 44.91 122 20+2
>>G. Boycott 1962-1985 994 161 47434 261* 56.94 149 23+3
>>T.W. Hayward 1893-1914 1138 96 43551 315* 41.79 104 20
>>.
>>.
>>.
>>D.G. Bradman 1927-1948 338 43 28067 452* 95.14 117 4+12
>How anyone can look at these figures and say that the Don is not the
>greatest bat of all time, I can't imagine. His figures dwarf those of
>his contemporaries, predecessors, and those who came after him, by
>such a high margin, that any comparison between the Don and anyone
>else, is ludicrous.
Other notables in the 10000+ list
V.M. Merchant 1929-1951 229 43 13248 359* 71.22 44 2+1
W.H. Ponsford 1920-1934 235 23 13819 437 65.18 47 2+2
W.M. Woodfull 1921-1934 245 39 13388 284 64.99 49 3
G.A.R. Lock 1946-1970 812 161 10342 89 15.88 - -
Lock has the lowest average of any player scoring 10000 runs.
Spaceman Spiff
Shead) says:
>
>>>The other player I will leave to you to figure out as a quiz but
>>>his scores are :
>>> 214,201,232,271,277*,200*,234,240,206*,213,201*,200,209*,223*
>>> 211*,205*,254*,232*,203,>300,222*,202
>
> Still nobody has given me the answer to this, I'll add that he played well
>over fifty tests for his country.
>
len hutton?
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Phil Shead <dri...@Deakin.Edu.Au> wrote:
>>> 214,201,232,271,277*,200*,234,240,206*,213,201*,200,209*,223*
>>> 211*,205*,254*,232*,203,>300,222*,202
> Still nobody has given me the answer to this, I'll add that he played well
>over fifty tests for his country.
>
Ok, seeing as noone else has had a guess I will be brave :)
Miandad????????
regards
Goochie
Satish Balay
>In article <2pn5as$6...@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au>,
>Phil Shead <dri...@Deakin.Edu.Au> wrote:
>>>> 214,201,232,271,277*,200*,234,240,206*,213,201*,200,209*,223*
>>>> 211*,205*,254*,232*,203,>300,222*,202
>> Still nobody has given me the answer to this, I'll add that he played well
>>over fifty tests for his country.
david boon?
satish balay
Spaceman Spiff
Rajan) says:
>
>So the sole 300+ score came relatively late in the player's career. It's not
>Jack Hobbs, since his highest Test score is 211 (out), which isn't listed.
>How about Patsy Hendren? Don't know how many Tests he played, but the late
>300 fits, and with 170 centuries, he's a better bet than most of the others
i think its probably patsy hendren. hobbs had 16 (17?) double centuries in his
career.
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Hiranjith Fonseka) says:
>
>Ponsford? Hobbs? McCabe (he did score a test 232...)? Must be McCabe. But
>Hobbs has the highest number of first class runs *ever*, so if we go by
>probabilities then it must be Hobbs. Can't really think of anyone else.
>
can't be ponsford. he had two 400+ scores which aren't listed.
hobbs, i know for a fact, did not score 20 double hundreds. (i have the
complete list of hobb's centuries).
mccabe? did he play 50+ tests? considering that bradman played 52 tests and
his career both began before and ended after mccabe, its unlikely.
i think the best bet is patsy hendren.
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>Shead) says:
>>
>>>>The other player I will leave to you to figure out as a quiz but
>>>>his scores are :
>>>> 214,201,232,271,277*,200*,234,240,206*,213,201*,200,209*,223*
>>>> 211*,205*,254*,232*,203,>300,222*,202
>>
>> Still nobody has given me the answer to this, I'll add that he played well
>>over fifty tests for his country.
>>
>since noone else seems to be attempting to answer this, let me take a shot.
>len hutton?
>
If these scores are ordered chronologically,
it can't be Hutton ... his 364 precede his other 3 test double
hundreds.
It isn't Glenn Turner --- there's no 259 in the list.
Couldn't be Viv Richards? unless the fourth score on the list
is 291 ... Also he had a 208 sometime later ... so it's
not him ...
It's not Zaheer -- he never scored a three hundred .....
Couldn't be Cyde Walcott ... he scored 220 vs Eng, which isn't on
the list ...
Trumper gets ruled out because he played < 50 tests ......
I give up !!
--Ravi.
Ranbhise, Dinesh R.
It definitely is not Hutton
202* Hutton England v West Indies (OVAL) 1950
HUTTON CARRIED HIS BAT AT OVAL
This score is missing
>300 suggest that it might be Sobers
Remenber Sobers made 254* v Australia in 1970-71
It cannot be Kanhai(256 v. India at Calcutta 1958-9) or Headley(270 v England)
or Compton(208 v SouthAfrica)or Zaheer(215* v India) or Miandad(280 v India)
mu
> Amazing that Hobbs doesn't make it, actually. I remember reading someplace
> that Hobbs (and Trumper before him) often sacrificed his wicket after
> scoring a century (not in Tests, I suppose!). Can someone who knows more
> about Hobbs' career either verify or refute this?
Don't know about Hobbs, but Trumper definitely did this time and again. For
example after scoring his century before lunch on the first day of the Old
Trafford Ashes Test of 1902, he was out soon after lunch. There was a cava-
lier streak to his batting. Also Test Matches lasted 3(?) days, so there
was a need to "get on with it".
Which makes Trumper's 300* (his highest First Class score) v Sussex at Hove
in 1899 even more remarkable. After watching that innings, Joe Darling was
said to have exclaimed, "... and I thought I could bat!" :-) Funny thing is
that Trumper was a last minute addition to the Australian side to tour Eng
in 1899. He was taken on for a flat fee, as opposed to the other players
who got a share of the profits made from each match. By the end of the tour,
all the players decided that he should be a full-fledged member of the side
and get his share of the profits as well. :-)
Murari Venkataraman
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Uday Rajan
Phil Shead <dri...@Deakin.Edu.Au> wrote:
>The other player I will leave to you to figure out as a quiz but
>his scores are :
> 214,201,232,271,277*,200*,234,240,206*,213,201*,200,209*,223*
> 211*,205*,254*,232*,203,>300,222*,202
So the sole 300+ score came relatively late in the player's career. It's not
Jack Hobbs, since his highest Test score is 211 (out), which isn't listed.
How about Patsy Hendren? Don't know how many Tests he played, but the late
300 fits, and with 170 centuries, he's a better bet than most of the others
on that list...Amazing that Hobbs doesn't make it, actually. I remember
Ali Minai
>Phil Shead <dri...@Deakin.Edu.Au> wrote:
>>>> 214,201,232,271,277*,200*,234,240,206*,213,201*,200,209*,223*
>>>> 211*,205*,254*,232*,203,>300,222*,202
>> Still nobody has given me the answer to this, I'll add that he played well
>>over fifty tests for his country.
>>
>
>
>Ok, seeing as noone else has had a guess I will be brave :)
>
>Miandad????????
Nope! Couldn't be Miandad. I don't see the 280* he scored against India. Could
be Sobers, if the scores are not in chronological order. Colin Cowdrey is another
possibility (never scored a test 200). And, if the order doesn't matter, it might
be Hutton. Argh! Who is it, Phil?
Ranbhise, Dinesh R.
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Ponsford? Hobbs? McCabe (he did score a test 232...)? Must be McCabe. But Hobbs has the highest number of first class runs *ever*, so if we go by probabilities, then it must be Hobbs. Can't really think of anyone else.
-Chan
John Hall
precisely 300 in first-class cricket. Of these only 1 played in 50 or more
Tests, so it must be him: Denis Compton.
As to Bradman being the greatest batsman of all time, I'd agree, but
W.G.Grace would run him close when you consider the general poor quality
of pitches in the 1800s.
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Saad Shafqat
>Looking in the 1994 Wisden (is this cheating?), only 3 batsmen have scored
>precisely 300 in first-class cricket. Of these only 1 played in 50 or more
>Tests, so it must be him: Denis Compton.
No, I don't think so. Compton had a 278 against Pakistan in 1954.
Besides, the triple century is >300, not exactly 300.
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Spaceman Spiff
Dinesh R.) says:
>
>>>>The other player I will leave to you to figure out as a quiz but
>>>>his scores are :
>>>> 214,201,232,271,277*,200*,234,240,206*,213,201*,200,209*,223*
>>>> 211*,205*,254*,232*,203,>300,222*,202
>> ^^^ ^^^^^ 365 NOT OUT
> REST OF WORLD V AUSTRALIA
>
>
a) if the above list is in chronological order, it can't be gary sobers because
his 365 came before his 254.
b) i'm pretty sure sobers also had a 226 vs england in the mid-to-late 60's,
a score which doesn't appear on this list.
phil, we give up. who is it?
Stay cool,
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Phil Shead
That's right it is a triple century not necessarily 300. Given the article
I asked this in listed all 300+ scores to 1985, I decided that it would
be a bit easy if I gave his triple century score.
Compton BTW scored 9 doubles.
Players with double figures (but < 20) double centuries Boycott G (10 to 85)
Fry C.B. (16), Gavasker S.M. (10), Grace W.G. (13), Hardstaff J (jr) (10),
Hazare V.S. (10), Hearne J.W. (11), Hobbs J.B. (16), Holmes P. (12)
Hutton L. (11), Mead C.P. (13), Merchant V.M. (11), Ponsford W.H. (13),
Ranjitsinhji K.S. (14), Sandham A (11), Shrewsbruy A (10), Simpson R.B. (12)
Simpson R.T. (10), Sutcliffe H (17), Tyldesley J.T. (13), Abbas Z. (10).
Of the very recent player, Richards had nine in this and scored at least
one more (for Glamorgan last year). Miandad had 7, Gooch 4.
Ranbhise, Dinesh R.
>In article <CozEu...@cnsnews.Colorado.EDU>, tuf...@spot.Colorado.EDU (JD) writes...
>>
>>JD
>>
>>
>I THINK IT IS PAT HENDREN
>
>
>DINESH
>
Ranbhise, Dinesh R.
Muhammad Farooq Hameed
Correct me if I am wrong, but Miandad has 6 double centuries in
test matches. He only scored one more in the rest of his first class career?.
Can someone out there please clarify this?.
Farooq
Phil Shead
We have another winner. E.H. Hendren scored 22 double centuries,
he played well over 50 tests. (51 actually, if a bit is less than one
the 1 is more than a bit so its well over!).
It is surrising I don't much discussion of including him in some
of the England XI's that get selected. His test record is
M I NO High Runs Avge 100 50 ct
E.H. Hendren 51 83 9 205* 3525 47.63 7 21 33
RA...@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu
How many double centuries did the Bradman score? 36? out of 117
hundreds. This is dfrom memory. How many triples 304,334 in tests + that
score of 452* . clarifications will be appreciated....
rajagopalan. S.
Phil Shead
Simple, these figures were to 1985, I think I mentioned that. That is
the period which is covered up to by my book (Still waiting for $89.95
folks!). At that time Javed Miandad had 7 double centuries two of which
were test match doubles.
(206 v New Zealand Karachi 1976-7
280* v India Hyderabad 1982-3)
Phil Shead
>In article <2pfd4c$g...@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au>, dri...@Deakin.Edu.Au (Phil
>Shead) says:
>>324 Waheed Mirza Karachi Whites v Quetta Karachi 1976-7
>some one was inquiring whether mansoor akhtar had scored a quadruple century
>a few days back. well, he didn't. but he did share a world record opening
>partnership of 561 with the bloke above. mansoor got 224*.
Still the third highest partnership in 1985.
>plus, i think phil's post-1985 stats are confined to england/australia/SA and
>don't include india.
My post 1985 triples are confined to scored in Australia, tests or quadruples
(to put a strict definitions, they are in fact the ones I can remember).
Devadatta Mukutmoni
>>>his scores are :
>>> 214,201,232,271,277*,200*,234,240,206*,213,201*,200,209*,223*
>>> 211*,205*,254*,232*,203,>300,222*,202
>
>
> Still nobody has given me the answer to this, I'll add that he played well
>over fifty tests for his country.
That is still a tough one to guess. I would narrow it down to
Herbert Sutcliff, Jack Hobbs or Len Hutton.
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Ranbhise, Dinesh R.
IT IS PAT HENDREN
Parag Wakankar
>In article <2ptt12$5...@panix2.panix.com>, mu...@panix.com (Devadatta Mukutmoni) writes...
>>>>>The other player I will leave to you to figure out as a quiz but
>>>>>his scores are :
>>>>> 214,201,232,271,277*,200*,234,240,206*,213,201*,200,209*,223*
>>>>> 211*,205*,254*,232*,203,>300,222*,202
>>>
>>>
>>> Still nobody has given me the answer to this, I'll add that he played well
>>>over fifty tests for his country.
My guess is Eddie Paynter
I don't know for sure if he played for >50 tests though.
Parag
mu
> M I NO High Runs Avge 100 50 ct
> E.H. Hendren 51 83 9 205* 3525 47.63 7 21 33
>
>A book I have which has biographies of all Test Cricketers begins Hendren's
>entry with "One of the Games immortals".
>Hendren has to be one of the most neglected of cricket's "immortals" and it
>was a great way to draw attention to him.
I've heard/read loads about him. The "E" stands for "Elias". Why was he
called "Patsy" though? He also had an elaborate ritual where he would
touch his pads, the peak of his cap, tap his bat a certain number of times
etc. in a particular sequence before facing each ball. If for some reason
he was interrupted in this routine, everyone would have to wait till he
started at the beginning and completed it. Must have tested the patience
of many a bowler. :-)
Murari Venkataraman
ven...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Howard Silby
In article <...>, dri...@Deakin.Edu.Au (Phil Shead) writes:
|> >>The other player I will leave to you to figure out as a quiz but
|> >>his scores are :
|> >> 214,201,232,271,277*,200*,234,240,206*,213,201*,200,209*,223*
|> >> 211*,205*,254*,232*,203,>300,222*,202
|>
|> he played well over 50 tests. (51 actually, if a bit is less than one
|> the 1 is more than a bit so its well over!).
|> It is surrising I don't much discussion of including him in some
|> of the England XI's that get selected. His test record is
|> M I NO High Runs Avge 100 50 ct
|> E.H. Hendren 51 83 9 205* 3525 47.63 7 21 33
|>
A book I have which has biographies of all Test Cricketers begins Hendren's
entry with "One of the Games immortals".
This was a great thread and given I knew that Hendren had 170 centuries
I immediately thought the chances he had 20+ double centuries were good,
but that "well over 50 Tests" wasn't a very nice clue, was it? ;)
Hendren has to be one of the most neglected of cricket's "immortals" and it
was a great way to draw attention to him. [I also think H. Sutcliffe, 4555
Test runs at 60.73 is neglected].
Howard S.
Spaceman Spiff
says:
>
>I've heard/read loads about him. The "E" stands for "Elias". Why was he
>called "Patsy" though? He also had an elaborate ritual where he would
>touch his pads, the peak of his cap, tap his bat a certain number of times
>etc. in a particular sequence before facing each ball. If for some reason
>he was interrupted in this routine, everyone would have to wait till he
>started at the beginning and completed it. Must have tested the patience
>of many a bowler. :-)
>
mock-doleful countenance, the cap-tugging, foot-tapping routine at the batting
crease, and the broadest bat in the business- 'The Tempered Edge Blade'..."
from "great moments in cricket" by andrew thomas and norman harris- an
absolutely marvellous book.
Stay cool,
Spaceman Spiff
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Uday Rajan
mu <ven...@happy.cc.utexas.edu> wrote:
>Howard Silby <how...@kore.isor.vuw.ac.nz> wrote:
>> M I NO High Runs Avge 100 50 ct
>> E.H. Hendren 51 83 9 205* 3525 47.63 7 21 33
>>A book I have which has biographies of all Test Cricketers begins Hendren's
>>entry with "One of the Games immortals".
>>Hendren has to be one of the most neglected of cricket's "immortals" and it
>>was a great way to draw attention to him.
>
>I've heard/read loads about him. The "E" stands for "Elias". Why was he
>called "Patsy" though?
Don't know about that, but here's an extract from Cardus' essay
"Patsy", from "Good Days" (1934):
" He was baptized Elias and the crowds would have none of it; they were
right, too, for he is Patsy not only by name but also by nature. His smile
says Patsy; sometimes it is so enormous that it hides the little man; ne
fine day he will be given out smile before wicket. He represents democracy
at Lord's in the same way that Lord Aberdare and his forward drive
represented the aristocracy of the pavilion and the Long Room. He is the idol
of the Tavern---that rich part of Lord's where East End is West End and West
End is East...I have seen men leave their drinks at the bar of the Tavern when
Patsy has just come in to bat. I don't know where he played his cricket as a
boy, but I like to think it was on a rough common amongst dirty-faced happy
urchins, the wicket-keeper using a coat, one bat for the lot of them. To this
day Patsy always runs his first run hugging his bat in his two arms as
though afraid to let it go from his possession. To give up your bat was out
when I was very young. And Patsy has never grown up, and never will. "
Hendren's first-class career ran from 1907-38, so he was likely in his early
40s or so when this was written.
mu
It turns out to be C.P.Mead. Sorry folks, serves me right for not
checking my facts.
Spaceman Spiff <SXK...@psuvm.psu.edu> corrects me:
> this ritual actually belonged to george mead, and i quote, "he of the
> leathery, mock-doleful countenance, the cap-tugging, foot-tapping routine
> at the batting crease, and the broadest bat in the business- 'The Tempered
> Edge Blade'..." from "great moments in cricket" by andrew thomas and
> norman harris- an absolutely marvellous book.
By way of covering my behind, here is what I know of Phil Mead ... :-)
Mead was a left-hander and played for Hampshire (what? another one!).
Played a few Tests. Has a Test batting average in the high forties
(47 maybe). Career tragically cut short by the onset of blindness.
Murari Venkataraman
ven...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
mu
>By way of covering my behind, here is what I know of Phil Mead ... :-)
>Mead was a left-hander and played for Hampshire (what? another one!).
>Played a few Tests. Has a Test batting average in the high forties
>(47 maybe). Career tragically cut short by the onset of blindness.
Checking his stats, that's not quite true. He played First Class cricket
till he was 40 or so. He obviously lost some years due to the First
War. He did eventually go completely blind. He just didn't get that many
chances to play for England I guess, due to the amount of batting talent
available during those years.
Murari Venkataraman
ven...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
John Hall
ven...@happy.cc.utexas.edu "mu" writes:
> By way of covering my behind, here is what I know of Phil Mead ... :-)
> Mead was a left-hander and played for Hampshire (what? another one!).
> Played a few Tests. Has a Test batting average in the high forties
> (47 maybe). Career tragically cut short by the onset of blindness.
>
His career can't have been cut that short, since he toured Australia
in 1911-12 and then again in 1928-9. The story goes that on the latter
tour he was greeted by an Aussie as follows: "Hello, mate. I remember
your dad touring in 1911-12."