Tendulkar declines Test captaincy
Jack of all trades
why the sudden U-turn? may be they will give captaincy to dinesh kaarthick
now :-)
J
Jayen
> http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/318623.html
>
> why the sudden U-turn?
Where is the U-turn? When did he accept it in the first place? Also, I
don't believe that SRT was actually offered the captaincy. The
selectors would have checked with all probable candidates about their
willingness to take on the job, should it be offered. It appears that
SRT thought it over and declined to allow his name to be considered
for the job.
Saves trouble all around.
> may be they will give captaincy to dinesh kaarthick
> now :-)
>
They would pick the other keeper in the team.
Regards,
Jayen
Ravi
Yawn. Good news for India though - his track record as captain was
poor anyway,.
Ravi
Jack of all trades
"Jayen" <rsc_p...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 6, 8:04 pm, "Jack of all trades" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/318623.html
>>
>> why the sudden U-turn?
>
> Where is the U-turn? When did he accept it in the first place? Also, I
> don't believe that SRT was actually offered the captaincy. The
> selectors would have checked with all probable candidates about their
> willingness to take on the job, should it be offered. It appears that
> SRT thought it over and declined to allow his name to be considered
> for the job.
>
> Saves trouble all around.
interviews. I guess he was disappointed
that he was not chosen to lead the ODI team(which would have been his had
dhoni not won the 20-20 worldcup).
Suddenly he does not want it anymore. Thinking of retirement after Pak
series, May be?
horse
bring out the retirement question. Have you guys not read his recent
interview? Tendulkar is neither thinking about retirement at this time
nor should he based upon his form vs alternatives. Other times in the
past he has clearly indicated that he wants to help India win the next
world-cup. So keep on dreaming, Tendulkar is here at least until 2011.
Rodney Ulyate
> http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/318623.html
> why the sudden U-turn? may be they will give captaincy to dinesh kaarthick
> now :-)
See, Steven? Perfectly normal.
--
Rodney Ulyate
"Village cricketers are too kindly to drop you with abruptness at the
end of your career."
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Sanjiv Karmarkar
> It was clear that SRT wanted captaincy. He indicated that in few of his
> interviews.
I doubt that. Provide references or retract! :-)
SK
Sanjiv Karmarkar
> On Nov 6, 8:04 pm, "Jack of all trades" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/318623.html
>
> > why the sudden U-turn?
>
> Where is the U-turn? When did he accept it in the first place? Also, I
> don't believe that SRT was actually offered the captaincy. The
> selectors would have checked with all probable candidates about their
> willingness to take on the job, should it be offered. It appears that
> SRT thought it over and declined to allow his name to be considered
> for the job.
This is the 2nd time in the last 5 years he has declined the
captaincy. If you were given Noel David, Bharadwaj, Ganesh et al
during your first stint, you would not want to repeat the experience
either!
Sanjiv Karmarkar
Sanjiv Karmarkar
> They would pick the other keeper in the team.
Based on insider information; Dhoni is certain to be the captain for
the test team as well. This will be made official after the BCCI
meeting in Mohali on Thursday.
Sanjiv Karmarkar
CricketLeague
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Tendulkar is WISE enough NOT to take test captaincy vs Pak, Indias enemy and
Australia, the world champion.
d.ram...@gmail.com
When Dravid had chucked it, I'd suggested in jest that Kumble should
be given a go. Reconsidering, given that he's senior enough, has the
teammates' respect and mentally has what it takes to soak up two high-
pressure back-to-back Test series, he might in seriousness not be such
a bad option after all. Dhoni could be the long-term option but for
the immediate future, where two bad losses could count indelibly
against him, I'd plump for Kumble rather than Dhoni for skipper.
Ramapriya
Diggler
their own captaincy suitability based on who they are about to play
and whether they have a good chance of winning. the best interests of
the team don't come into account. idiot.
CricketLeague
Tendulkar already SUFFERED a lot as captain in the late 90s with BCCI not
giving him the team he wanted. He hardly has two years left in is
international career AT BEST.
Why dont you WORK FOR FREE in the BEST INTEREST OF YOUR COMPANY ??
LOW IQ DUMB CUNT.
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>
> When Dravid had chucked it, I'd suggested in jest that Kumble should
> be given a go. Reconsidering, given that he's senior enough, has the
> teammates' respect and mentally has what it takes to soak up two high-
> pressure back-to-back Test series, he might in seriousness not be such
> a bad option after all. Dhoni could be the long-term option but for
> the immediate future, where two bad losses could count indelibly
> against him, I'd plump for Kumble rather than Dhoni for skipper.
>
> Ramapriya
I hope you are not saying this in jest, for the reasoning doesn't
sound logical at all. For one Kumble has had no captaincy experience
leading internationally and he has not been groomed or prepped for the
task. What use would the experiment be anyway? Dhoni and the younger
squad that is ready to rally around him will be frustrated. The senior
members will continue to be aloof. Kumble will not be able to focus on
his bowling and the entire tour will end in disaster!
Captaincy is not something that should be given defacto to the senior
most or most experienced player. Not everyone can become a leader or a
captain.
For better or for worse Dhoni looks to be the only correct choice
available and the selectors should just stick with him. Select and
give him a team that he can win with.
Raghu
d.ram...@gmail.com
> On Nov 6, 6:39 pm, d.ramapr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > When Dravid had chucked it, I'd suggested in jest that Kumble should
> > be given a go. Reconsidering, given that he's senior enough, has the
> > teammates' respect and mentally has what it takes to soak up two high-
> > pressure back-to-back Test series, he might in seriousness not be such
> > a bad option after all. Dhoni could be the long-term option but for
> > the immediate future, where two bad losses could count indelibly
> > against him, I'd plump for Kumble rather than Dhoni for skipper.
>
> > Ramapriya
>
> I hope you are not saying this in jest, for the reasoning doesn't
> sound logical at all. For one Kumble has had no captaincy experience
> leading internationally and he has not been groomed or prepped for the task.
Being as senior as he is, the lack of prior international captaincy
experience shouldn't be much of a disadvantage. He was vice-skip ages
ago, so he was groomed for at least a little while.
> What use would the experiment be anyway?
A slightly easier initiation into the job rather than the two most
difficult series that an Indian can imagine.
> Dhoni and the younger
> squad that is ready to rally around him will be frustrated. The senior
> members will continue to be aloof.
Oh no, he's much respected within the team. I know that for a fact.
> Kumble will not be able to focus on
> his bowling and the entire tour will end in disaster!
That's one worry, yes. He hasn't exactly performed well when
captaining Karnataka. Moreover, Aus doesn't have spinner-friendly
environs which makes him a naturally less effective bowler there than
at home.
> Captaincy is not something that should be given defacto to the senior
> most or most experienced player. Not everyone can become a leader or a
> captain.
But then he's displayed enough tactical nous whenever he's led
Karnataka.
> For better or for worse Dhoni looks to be the only correct choice
> available and the selectors should just stick with him. Select and
> give him a team that he can win with.
We've seen nothing of the tactical qualities required in a Test skip
in Dhoni yet - and captaining longer games is quite different to the
shorter variety. I don't know how many FC games he has led in. His
time would come and it's best if that happened after the Aus tour when
Kumble would be pretty much at retirement stage anyway. Captaincy
would also be a recognition in parting for Kumble, something that I
think not many fellow teammates would begrudge.
Ramapriya
Diggler
despite the fact they actually make sense. well done mate, you finally
said something made sense but in this case it was too late.. you're
still wrong and have proved yourself to be a fool.
>
> Tendulkar already SUFFERED a lot as captain in the late 90s with BCCI not
> giving him the team he wanted. He hardly has two years left in is
> international career AT BEST.
>
> Why dont you WORK FOR FREE in the BEST INTEREST OF YOUR COMPANY ??
>
> LOW IQ DUMB CUNT.
>
> "Diggler" <dnarmstr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Tendulkar had bad experiences with BCCI and the selectors in the past with
team selections. They apply the current series vs Pak and Aus if Tendulkar
accepts captaincy.
You should stick with some celebrity gossip and leave cricket.
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raghu.sa...@gmail.com
> On Nov 8, 1:38 am, raghu.saklesh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Nov 6, 6:39 pm, d.ramapr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > When Dravid had chucked it, I'd suggested in jest that Kumble should
> > > be given a go. Reconsidering, given that he's senior enough, has the
> > > teammates' respect and mentally has what it takes to soak up two high-
> > > pressure back-to-back Test series, he might in seriousness not be such
> > > a bad option after all. Dhoni could be the long-term option but for
> > > the immediate future, where two bad losses could count indelibly
> > > against him, I'd plump for Kumble rather than Dhoni for skipper.
>
> > > Ramapriya
>
> > I hope you are not saying this in jest, for the reasoning doesn't
> > sound logical at all. For one Kumble has had no captaincy experience
> > leading internationally and he has not been groomed or prepped for the task.
>
> Being as senior as he is, the lack of prior international captaincy
> experience shouldn't be much of a disadvantage. He was vice-skip ages
> ago, so he was groomed for at least a little while.
>
There is a reason why he was overlooked later on for captaincy and it
would be pointless going down
that road now.
> > What use would the experiment be anyway?
>
> A slightly easier initiation into the job rather than the two most
> difficult series that an Indian can imagine.
This I agree. However we got to look at the cost here too. I think
India stands better chance with Dhoni as the captain than Kumble in
the next 2 series.
>
> > Dhoni and the younger
> > squad that is ready to rally around him will be frustrated. The senior
> > members will continue to be aloof.
>
> Oh no, he's much respected within the team. I know that for a fact.
>
> > Kumble will not be able to focus on
> > his bowling and the entire tour will end in disaster!
>
> That's one worry, yes. He hasn't exactly performed well when
> captaining Karnataka. Moreover, Aus doesn't have spinner-friendly
> environs which makes him a naturally less effective bowler there than
> at home.
>
> > Captaincy is not something that should be given defacto to the senior
> > most or most experienced player. Not everyone can become a leader or a
> > captain.
>
> But then he's displayed enough tactical nous whenever he's led
> Karnataka.
>
Like how Karnataka played against Mumbai in the recently concluded
game?
> > For better or for worse Dhoni looks to be the only correct choice
> > available and the selectors should just stick with him. Select and
> > give him a team that he can win with.
>
> We've seen nothing of the tactical qualities required in a Test skip
> in Dhoni yet - and captaining longer games is quite different to the
> shorter variety. I don't know how many FC games he has led in. His
> time would come and it's best if that happened after the Aus tour when
> Kumble would be pretty much at retirement stage anyway. Captaincy
> would also be a recognition in parting for Kumble, something that I
> think not many fellow teammates would begrudge.
>
Dhoni has displayed enough captaincy acumen. There should not be any
doubts on his abilities to lead be it ODI or tests. Captaincy should
not be used as a "retirement wrist watch". Kumble's achievements can
be recognized in many other ways.
> Ramapriya
Raghu
Diggler
support properly earlier. I know Tendulkar shouldn't be captain, it is
unbelievable that the BCCI would offer it to him at his age (if that
report is actually true), but this doesn't change the fact that your
english is way below average if you're an adult.
d.ram...@gmail.com
> On Nov 7, 5:46 pm, d.ramapr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > Captaincy is not something that should be given defacto to the senior
> > > most or most experienced player. Not everyone can become a leader or a
> > > captain.
>
> > But then he's displayed enough tactical nous whenever he's led
> > Karnataka.
>
> Like how Karnataka played against Mumbai in the recently concluded game?
Unless there was something specific that was reported that I failed to
read, I think we lost to Mumbai because of our first innings batting,
not because of a tactical trick or two missed.
Ramapriya
Ravi
> Sanjiv Karmarkar
Sanjiv Karmarkar
> Are you suggesting that he was/can be a good captain?
Nope.
SK
CricketLeague
This is a cricket newsgroup, NOT english language newsgroup.
If you want to read shakespearean english, read some alt.english or some
shit like that.
EFF OFF.....
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It just gets difficult to actually decipher what you're trying to say
with your poor english sometimes. That's all.
CricketLeague
Alternatively learn to DEAL WITH my poor english. Its YOUR PROBLEM if you
have difficulty deciphering it.
"Diggler" <dnarm...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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i'm just trying to let you know where you can improve, not necessarily
having a go at you 'cricketleague'
it's not just me that can't decipher your poor english - so it's your
problem too because you're wasting your time if you're trying to make
sense or improve your sentence structures. why learn it if you're
always going to be shit?
CricketLeague
I dont need any advice from a low IQ racist dickhead like you.
You are neither good in cricket nor in english comprehension.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/msg/123d34c40c666ccf
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Diggler
i am good with both my english comprehension AND my cricket. You need
all the advice you can get, fuckwit.
> Stupid moron Diggler,
>
> I dont need any advice from a low IQ racist dickhead like you.
>
> You are neither good in cricket nor in english comprehension.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/msg/123d34c40c666ccf
>
> "Diggler" <dnarmstr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
CricketLeague
I dont need any advice from a low IQ racist dickhead like you.
You are neither good in cricket nor in english comprehension.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/msg/123d34c40c666ccf
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CricketLeague
You learn HINDI like I learned English and then we discuss cricket in Hindi.
Alternatively learn to DEAL WITH my poor english. Its YOUR PROBLEM if you
have difficulty deciphering it.
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Does ' ' make any sense? I have
written a few phrases to stick on my bedroom walls but obviously it'll
take a while, so for now i'll just tell you how much of a racist
fuckwit you are in english :)
> Speak for yourself RACIST moron.
>
> You learn HINDI like I learned English and then we discuss cricket in Hindi.
>
> Alternatively learn to DEAL WITH my poor english. Its YOUR PROBLEM if you
> have difficulty deciphering it.
>
> "Diggler" <dnarmstr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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about as usual
like your fellow RACISTS Andrew Dunford, Rodney Ulyate, alvey, will_s,
Erchie, Ernest_the_sheep,
Phil, Mike Holmans, Fish Womper, Mango, Dave Turner, dechuka etc.
You did NOT condemn all these RACIST INCIDENTS even once.
Australian players RACIALLY ABUSE Indians to be "NIGGERS"
Duane Chapman RACIALLY ABUSES his sons girl friend to be a "NIGGER"
SIX RACISTS forced a black woman to EAT RAT DROPPINGS in November, 2007 ie
21st Century.
RACIST DUMBCUNT Diggler........EFF OFF......
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Diggler
reply to i assumed you hadn't read it.
> You did NOT condemn all these RACIST INCIDENTS even once.
>
> Australian players RACIALLY ABUSE Indians to be "NIGGERS"
i'm not sure what these particular links have anything to do with
cricket though:
> Duane Chapman RACIALLY ABUSES his sons girl friend to be a "NIGGER"
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/browse_frm/thread/1b...
>
> SIX RACISTS forced a black woman to EAT RAT DROPPINGS in November, 2007 ie
> 21st Century.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/browse_frm/thread/6d...
once again most of your ramblings are either irrelevant or incorrect
CricketLeague
You already LOST the argument. You dont know what the fuck you are talking
about as usual like your fellow RACISTS Andrew Dunford, Rodney Ulyate,
alvey, will_s,
Erchie, Ernest_the_sheep, Phil, Mike Holmans, Fish Womper, Mango, Dave
Turner, dechuka etc.
You did NOT condemn all these RACIST INCIDENTS even once.
Australian players RACIALLY ABUSED Indians to be "NIGGERS"
Duane Chapman RACIALLY ABUSED his sons girl friend to be a "NIGGER"
SIX RACISTS forced a black woman to EAT RAT DROPPINGS in November, 2007 ie
21st Century.
RACIST DUMBCUNT Diggler........EFF OFF......
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Sanjiv Karmarkar wrote:
to allow his name to be considered
> > for the job.
>
> This is the 2nd time in the last 5 years he has declined the
> captaincy. If you were given Noel David, Bharadwaj, Ganesh et al
> during your first stint, you would not want to repeat the experience
> either!
>
BTW, Tendulkar had said in a couple of interviews in the past year or
two that he would not be averse to considering the captaincy again,
that he had not ruled it out. This is what was seen always as an
indication
that he wanted the captaincy.
It is also now 3 times in 7 years that he has turned down catpaincy,
BTW.
Kiran More came out and publicly said a couple of days ago that he
had personally offered Tendulkar the captaincy when he was Chairman
of Selectors and Ganguly was dropped... that he had offered Tendulkar
the captaincy *before* it was offered to Dravid. But that Tendulkar
had
turned it down at that time too.
FWIW, I wish none of this had happened.. I wish Dravid had remained
captain, at least for test matches. Failing that, I wish Tendulkar had
agreed to take it over at least for a couple of years. Given neither,
I think I agree that we're probably down to Kumble (he hasnt captained
that much before, and I was very disappointed in his captaincy against
Bombay last week... Bombay were assured of 3 points, the onus was on
Karnataka to force the game after Bombay had the first-innings lead,
and yet Karnataka scored at 2/over for large stretches and never even
tried to push it along and declare or anything. They should have been
closer to a 100 ahead with a day to go (instead of 50 odd), but even
then, I figured theyd declare 250 ahead with 50 overs to play, maybe,
all theyd have to do was score near 5/over with 9 wickets in hand. But
they still kept going at 2-3/over, and finally declared when there was
no
chance of a result. I wish more aggression had been shown in terms
of captaincy here).
Anyway. Its still probably better to go with Kumble than Dhoni as test
captain right now IMHO - I havent seen anything impressive in Dhoni's
captaincy myself, so far, despite all the praise, even in ODIs. In
fact
I thought he did a poorish job at various times, especially in the
last
game. At the very least a couple series of Kumble may give Dhoni
time to get some badly-needed seasoning.
Sadiq [ hopefully Kumble can bowl well vs Pak at least, tho ] Yusuf
> Sanjiv Karmarkar
Cricketwallah
raghu.saklesh...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Nov 7, 5:46 pm, d.ramapr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Nov 8, 1:38 am, raghu.saklesh...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > Being as senior as he is, the lack of prior international captaincy
> > experience shouldn't be much of a disadvantage. He was vice-skip ages
> > ago, so he was groomed for at least a little while.
> >
>
> There is a reason why he was overlooked later on for captaincy and it
> would be pointless going down
> that road now.
>
Why not? There were better options available then, there arent now,
theyve
all taken themselves out of the running :-) And "grooming" shouldnt be
a problem for Kumble at least - he's led Karnataka and South Zone etc
before, and he's been around a long time, grooming wouldnt change
anything with him now.
> > > What use would the experiment be anyway?
> >
> > A slightly easier initiation into the job rather than the two most
> > difficult series that an Indian can imagine.
>
> This I agree. However we got to look at the cost here too. I think
> India stands better chance with Dhoni as the captain than Kumble in
> the next 2 series.
>
Why do you think that, BTW? I dont really think that myself, so am
curious. I think we'll beat Pakistan and lose to Australia whether
Dhoni or Kumble is captain :-)
> >
> > > Dhoni and the younger
> > > squad that is ready to rally around him will be frustrated. The senior
> > > members will continue to be aloof.
> >
> > Oh no, he's much respected within the team. I know that for a fact.
> >
> > > Kumble will not be able to focus on
> > > his bowling and the entire tour will end in disaster!
> >
> > That's one worry, yes. He hasn't exactly performed well when
> > captaining Karnataka. Moreover, Aus doesn't have spinner-friendly
> > environs which makes him a naturally less effective bowler there than
> > at home.
> >
This is kind of the worry, to me - Kumble's bowling has not been quite
the same anyway, with age etc. The young Kumble would have finished
off England with hours to spare at the Oval, he wasnt very good
against
the top-order in England in general IMHO. He's had a break since, and
then was ineffective against Bombay last week. I believe Dravid when
he said that another game next week for Karnataka would fix him, and
he'd be ready for Pakistan (as Dravid said post-Karnataka game, and
pre-Kumble-is-King news breaking :-) But if he doesnt do great against
Pakistan... then do we want him as captain (and defacto only spinner)
in Australia? That might be the concern. But thats why the selectors
have cleverly appointed him captain only for Pakistan, so they arent
neccesarily stuck with him for Australia if he doesnt perform at
home :-)
But hopefully he will, and that eventuality wont arise.
> > > Captaincy is not something that should be given defacto to the senior
> > > most or most experienced player. Not everyone can become a leader or a
> > > captain.
> >
This I agree with, it certainly should not be given to every
experienced
player, or as a retirement-gift to anyone.
> > But then he's displayed enough tactical nous whenever he's led
> > Karnataka.
> >
>
> Like how Karnataka played against Mumbai in the recently concluded
> game?
>
Yes. As I pointed out ebfore, I was disappointed witht he lack of
aggression shown by the decisions in this game. But still , its only
one
game.
> >
> > We've seen nothing of the tactical qualities required in a Test skip
> > in Dhoni yet - and captaining longer games is quite different to the
> > shorter variety. I don't know how many FC games he has led in. His
> > time would come and it's best if that happened after the Aus tour when
> > Kumble would be pretty much at retirement stage anyway. Captaincy
> > would also be a recognition in parting for Kumble, something that I
> > think not many fellow teammates would begrudge.
> >
>
> Dhoni has displayed enough captaincy acumen. There should not be any
> doubts on his abilities to lead be it ODI or tests. Captaincy should
> not be used as a "retirement wrist watch". Kumble's achievements can
> be recognized in many other ways.
>
While I agree with the latter, I dont with the former... where exactly
has
Dhoni displayed enough catpaincy acumen, so that there should be
no doubts about hiis abilities to lead ODIs or tests? He has captained
in basically 8 ODIs so far, all at home, with a 3-5 record, included
amongst
them giving up the biggest successful chase to our biggest rival in
that
rivalry's history. I dont know what he's done that is particularly
good
tactically, and I can think of more than a few ordinary things. (And
no,
I dont count the 20/20 WC as having demonstrated tactical acumen :-)
Not giving Sehwag a single ball yesterday, for example, was pretty
stupid, as was dropping the field back and allowing singles at a time
Pakistan had struggled to the extent of getting 13 runs in the
previous
5 overs!
Neither do I agree above with the line about "the younger squad taht
is
ready to rally around him will be frustrated"... what younger squad,
and
which of them is so good that they oughta get frustrated if they dont
get
their captain choice? :-) Most of the younger guys aint that good
anyway
(20/20 notwithstanding), and they shouldnt be in the test side.. that
is
still going to be Dravid, SRT, Gangs, VVSL.
Lets just play Pakistan with an experienced guy at captain, beat them
senseless, then go and lose in Australia, and then we can honorably
let Kumble go as captain and turn to Dhoni, hoping that the 47 ODIs
we've played in the meantime have honed his tactical acumen to the
point that he wont do anything horribly stupid in the test matches
immediately after he takes over :-)
Sadiq [ or just talk to Dravid and get him to reconsider ] Yusuf
> > Ramapriya
>
> Raghu
Diggler
that's factual as much as you like, it doesn't change the problem that
you're an idiot with a massive chip on your shoulder, seemingly
because you're an Indian prick who can't hack being called a sleazy
degenerate.
Reply to the following, which you earlier ignored:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/browse_thread/thread/6895170e1eabb82d/193ac23a0d3b502a?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=polite+AND+receptive#193ac23a0d3b502a
The other links are the definition of irrelevant - post them on a
group that's trying to bring together black and white people. This is
for people talking about cricket
>
> >> You did NOT condemn all these RACIST INCIDENTS even once.
>
> >> Australian players RACIALLY ABUSE Indians to be "NIGGERS"
>
> > i'm not sure what these particular links have anything to do with
> > cricket though:
>
> >> Duane Chapman RACIALLY ABUSES his sons girl friend to be a "NIGGER"
>
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/browse_frm/thread/1b...
>
> >> SIX RACISTS forced a black woman to EAT RAT DROPPINGS in November, 2007
> >> ie
> >> 21st Century.
>
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/browse_frm/thread/6d...
>
> > once again most of your ramblings are either irrelevant or incorrect
>
> You already LOST the argument. You dont know what the fuck you are talking
> about as usual like your fellow RACISTS Andrew Dunford, Rodney Ulyate,
> alvey, will_s,
> Erchie, Ernest_the_sheep, Phil, Mike Holmans, Fish Womper, Mango, Dave
> Turner, dechuka etc.
>
> You did NOT condemn all these RACIST INCIDENTS even once.
>
> Australian players RACIALLY ABUSED Indians to be "NIGGERS"
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/browse_frm/thread/80...
>
> Duane Chapman RACIALLY ABUSED his sons girl friend to be a "NIGGER"
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/browse_frm/thread/1b...
>
> SIX RACISTS forced a black woman to EAT RAT DROPPINGS in November, 2007 ie
> 21st Century.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/browse_frm/thread/6d...
>
raghu.sa...@gmail.com
> Why not? There were better options available then, there arent now,
> theyve
> all taken themselves out of the running :-) And "grooming" shouldnt be
> a problem for Kumble at least - he's led Karnataka and South Zone etc
> before, and he's been around a long time, grooming wouldnt change
> anything with him now.
>
There are better options available even now too.. Grooming Kumble to
captaincy should be the last thing on the Selctor's mind as it makes
little sense!
> > > > What use would the experiment be anyway?
>
> > > A slightly easier initiation into the job rather than the two most
> > > difficult series that an Indian can imagine.
>
> > This I agree. However we got to look at the cost here too. I think
> > India stands better chance with Dhoni as the captain than Kumble in
> > the next 2 series.
>
> Why do you think that, BTW? I dont really think that myself, so am
> curious. I think we'll beat Pakistan and lose to Australia whether
> Dhoni or Kumble is captain :-)
>
I'd rather have a Kumble focused on bowling 100% rather than all the
distractions of captaining the team. I agree India stands a good
chance of beating Pakistan than Australia. But as a selector I should
put forth a team combination that has the best chance of winning!
My concern is that Kumble may loose his spot in the team as a bowler
and captain in one swoop! Espescially if he struggles as a bowler when
captaining! Even if he stinks as a captain I'd like to see him
continue to be the chief wicket taker.
OK his record is 4-5 against arguably the best 2(3) ODI teams. He has
shown qualities to be fearless in taking risks. Does not mean that he
will make mistakes. My gut feel tells me if he is persisted he will
definitely deliver. Like th 20/20 WC. It may be too soon to start to
comparing him with his predecessors Dravid and Ganguly but I like his
captaincy persona better than the other 2.
> Neither do I agree above with the line about "the younger squad taht
> is
> ready to rally around him will be frustrated"... what younger squad,
> and
> which of them is so good that they oughta get frustrated if they dont
> get
> their captain choice? :-) Most of the younger guys aint that good
> anyway
> (20/20 notwithstanding), and they shouldnt be in the test side.. that
> is
> still going to be Dravid, SRT, Gangs, VVSL.
Well we need to start thinking for the future. The big four will start
to fade away and we need to have a strong bench that will start to
pick up as soon as these guys start to recede. In that sense a younger
captain herding these old goats will be ideal. Also a younger captain
will be able to rally the youngsters better than an older guy at the
helm.
>
> Lets just play Pakistan with an experienced guy at captain, beat them
> senseless, then go and lose in Australia, and then we can honorably
> let Kumble go as captain and turn to Dhoni, hoping that the 47 ODIs
> we've played in the meantime have honed his tactical acumen to the
> point that he wont do anything horribly stupid in the test matches
> immediately after he takes over :-)
>
:)
> Sadiq [ or just talk to Dravid and get him to reconsider ] Yusuf
>
> > > Ramapriya
>
> > Raghu
Raghu
CricketLeague
> You can try to conveniently ignore someone when they write something
> that's factual as much as you like, it doesn't change the problem that
> you're an idiot with a massive chip on your shoulder, seemingly
> because you're an Indian prick who can't hack being called a sleazy
> degenerate.
Ignorant DUMBCUNT PERVERTED RACIST Diggler,
Your cricket knowledge is as good as Bush's mastery of English language.
> Reply to the following, which you earlier ignored:
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/browse_thread/thread/6895170e1eabb82d/193ac23a0d3b502a?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=polite+AND+receptive#193ac23a0d3b502a
That thread was posted on Oct 29th, 2007 and you responded to it on Nov 5th,
2007.
You ignored that thread like CUNNING AUSTRALIAN RACISTS alvey, will_s, Wog
George, dechuka, Fish Womper, Ernest_the_sheep while posting comments on
almost all days between Oct 29th and Nov 5th, 2007.
Its NOT my job to keep track of every fucking comment from CRICKET IGNORANT
CUNNING RACIST fucks like you.
EFF OFF and dont come back with more garbage.
CricketLeague
> You can try to conveniently ignore someone when they write something
> that's factual as much as you like, it doesn't change the problem that
> you're an idiot with a massive chip on your shoulder, seemingly
> because you're an Indian prick who can't hack being called a sleazy
> degenerate.
Ignorant DUMBCUNT PERVERTED RACIST Diggler,
Your cricket knowledge is as good as Bush's mastery of English language.
> Reply to the following, which you earlier ignored:
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/browse_thread/thread/6895170e1eabb82d/193ac23a0d3b502a?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=polite+AND+receptive#193ac23a0d3b502a
That thread was posted on Oct 29th, 2007 and you responded to it on Nov 5th,
2007.
You ignored that thread like CUNNING AUSTRALIAN RACISTS alvey, will_s, Wog
George, dechuka, Fish Womper, Ernest_the_sheep while posting comments on
almost all days between Oct 29th and Nov 5th, 2007.
Its NOT my job to keep track of every fucking comment from CRICKET IGNORANT
CUNNING RACIST fucks like you.
EFF OFF and dont come back with more garbage.
>
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