are aussies so hurt and insulted and embarassed
desicricfan
for India!!! Wow!
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,23147508-23212,00.html
may be some of the common sense Aussies can let them know to tone down
the volume a bit, because I fear for the Aussie team when they come to
India (if AGP keeps relating Aussie wins to revenge etc...)
regards
Sam
dechucka
"desicricfan" <spooz...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> this article took my breath away for the amount of hatred that exists
> for India!!! Wow!
What hatred was displayed in this article?
>
> http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,23147508-23212,00.html
>
> may be some of the common sense Aussies can let them know to tone down
> the volume a bit, because I fear for the Aussie team when they come to
> India (if AGP keeps relating Aussie wins to revenge etc...)
What do you think may happen to them?
brijesh.k...@gmail.com
brijesh.k...@gmail.com
> "desicricfan" <spoozhik...@gmail.com> wrote in message
The Mumbai test victory will be seen as Australia's inability to play
on bouncy Perth or spinning Mumbai tracks.
And then they'll have a go at the whiny Ricky Ponting
alvey
> this article took my breath away
I'd rather it took your keyboard away.
Really, are you so blind to the behaviour of the Indian players and Board
that you couldn't forsee a backlash?
alvey
in briz, noting the absence of quoting the ISP.
Andrew Symonds
"desicricfan" <spooz...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0928f16a-2260-4483...@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
Mate,
We Aussies are hardly 30 mil and these third world Indian curry
munchers are 1 billion plus. They control world cricket and there
is nothing We Aussies can do anything about it other than
prostrating infront of these soon to be powerful third world
Indian curry munchers like we did this week.
Money is the most important thing for us Aussies and we will
do anything to make more money.
Infact I will apologize to all Indians for accusing Harbhajan of
calling me a monkey if they give me a contract for $400,000
in IPL.
$400,000 yummy yummy.
great...@fastmail.fm
Speak for yourself. I have been following Aussie news coverage on
http://news.google.ca/news?ned=au (go to sports). The vitriol
displayed by them (except two - Roebuck and Andrew Bolt) is childish
and petty. They're blind to the fact that the incident was sparked off
a friendly gesture, of all the things. They're totally oblivious to
the fact that Symonds turned the norms of human interaction upside
down. If you're trying to be friendly to someone, you don't kick them
back.
They keep harping upon
(a) Harbhajan is lying
(b) BCCI threatened to withdraw
Initially, I complained to Orkut when Indians started creating
communities calling Symonds monkey. But after seeing Australians'
reaction, I don't care any longer.
'Captain' Vijaykanth Naidu
$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:
They too might have one of their own falsely accused of racism.
Wait it wont happen, Indian cricket players are a decent lot ...especially
compared to the pool.
CDK
I think the word you were looking for was not hatred so much as disgust.
I thought it was a very well written article and I imagine the Indians
have given Australia the required fuel to do them over in the ODO's, and
hopefully sufficent to also do them over in India.
CDK
alvey
> They're blind to the fact that the incident was sparked off
> a friendly gesture, of all the things. They're totally oblivious to
> the fact that Symonds turned the norms of human interaction upside
> down. If you're trying to be friendly to someone, you don't kick them
> back.
I'm sure that you know what you meant to say...
alvey
Will_S
"desicricfan" <spooz...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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thats the difference between the two countries
we may be totally pissed off with the Indian Cricket Side and the BCCI but
apart from quite a bit of verbal abuse in the rest of the ODI's Harby and Co
will be safe
actually I think Australia should withdraw from the tour of India due to
safety concerns
bhandava
> Mate,
>
> We Aussies are hardly 30 mil and these third world Indian curry
> munchers are 1 billion plus. They control world cricket and there
> is nothing We Aussies can do anything about it other than
> prostrating infront of these soon to be powerful third world
> Indian curry munchers like we did this week.
>
> Money is the most important thing for us Aussies and we will
> do anything to make more money.
>
> Infact I will apologize to all Indians for accusing Harbhajan of
> calling me a monkey if they give me a contract for $400,000
> in IPL.
>
> $400,000 yummy yummy.
Now that no one believes you're Indian, what makes you think that anyone
will believe you're Australian?
You are American and you can't play cricket. Deal with it, yankee slave.
I piss on you,
piss piss piss
I piss on you,
yes I do
I piss on you.
bhandava
great...@fastmail.fm
> On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 17:43:30 -0800 (PST), greatlor...@fastmail.fm wrote:
> > They're blind to the fact that the incident was sparked off
> > a friendly gesture, of all the things. They're totally oblivious to
> > the fact that Symonds turned the norms of human interaction upside
> > down. If you're trying to be friendly to someone, you don't kick them
> > back.
>
> I'm sure that you know what you meant to say...
>
> alvey
Let me "illustrate."
Scenario 1. In the rest of the world
You're walking in your neighborhood. You see Mr. Smith working in his
lawn. You say "Mr. Smith, you've got a beautiful lawn there. " Mr.
Smith is pleased and invites you for a cup of coffee or a pint of
beer.
In Australia, if a new immigrant, who doesn't yet know Australian
ways, were to say that, Mr. Smith would probably shoot him.
Therefore, in Australia, you're supposed to say "Mr. Smith, that's a
bloddy rotten landfill you got there." Mr. Smith is pleased and
invites you over for a cup of coffee or a pint of beer.
Scenario 2.
Rest of the world.
You hold the door open for someone who has, say, grocery bags in both
hands. He/she thanks you.
In Australia.
You see someone walk towards a closed door with grocery bags in both
hands. You open the door and trip the man. His grocery goes splat on
the sidewalk. There are eggs, bread and milk all over. Another man
passing by slips and hits a ladder leaning against the wall on top of
which a workman is standing and fixing something. The ladder falls.
The workman falls as well and breaks his hips.
The onlookers clap and compliment you for adopting Australian ways.
That would explain why Symonds abused Harby. Complimenting someone in
Australia is just not on.
"Nice set of pimples", an Australian pick up line.
"You're a stinkin' two-day old pile of crap." A student to a teacher
in a Australia.
alvey
> On Feb 1, 10:13 pm, alvey <is...@allinterested.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 17:43:30 -0800 (PST), greatlor...@fastmail.fm wrote:
>>> They're blind to the fact that the incident was sparked off
>>> a friendly gesture, of all the things. They're totally oblivious to
>>> the fact that Symonds turned the norms of human interaction upside
>>> down. If you're trying to be friendly to someone, you don't kick them
>>> back.
>>
>> I'm sure that you know what you meant to say...
>>
>> alvey
>
> Let me "illustrate."
snippo
Yep, that's certainly clarified that you're not worth bothering about.
tft
alvey
in Bucketing Down Briz, wondering how many Aussies would invite someone in
for a "pint of beer".
SportsFan
> "desicricfan" <spoozhik...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Quite presumptuous - was it not just yesterday when the Lankan cricket
party was physically assaulted. That too when just walking on some
streets.
A number of international cricketers were in India as part of the ICL
tournament including Law, Harvey and Bevan - no eggs were thrown at
anyone. For the sake of the true cricket fans in India, hopefully
there is no such withdrawal of the Australian tour.
For the record Australian cricketers like Brett Lee, Steve Waugh (and
many others) are extremely popular and well respected in India. And I
am sure lots of people are eagerly waiting to see Hussey, Jaques who
are going there for the first time.
eusebius
> On Feb 1, 6:58 pm, desicricfan <spoozhik...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > this article took my breath away for the amount of hatred that exists
> > for India!!! Wow!
>
> >http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,23147508-23212,00.html
>
> > may be some of the common sense Aussies can let them know to tone down
> > the volume a bit, because I fear for the Aussie team when they come to
> > India (if AGP keeps relating Aussie wins to revenge etc...)
>
> > regards
> > Sam
>
> displayed by them (except two - Roebuck and Andrew Bolt) is childish
> and petty. They're blind to the fact that the incident was sparked off
> a friendly gesture, of all the things. They're totally oblivious to
> the fact that Symonds turned the norms of human interaction upside
> down. If you're trying to be friendly to someone, you don't kick them
> back.
I don't agree. You don't pat someone on the buttocks unless you are
mates. Not even if you are mates generally, in this country. In fact,
patting on the buttocks is only done by teammates on the cricket field
(or mardi gras). Yes it does appear that Symonds reaction was
excessive. But Harbhajan exceeded what he would normally be expected
to be able to display as a non-friend of Lee.
>
> They keep harping upon
> (a) Harbhajan is lying
> (b) BCCI threatened to withdraw
>
> Initially, I complained to Orkut when Indians started creating
> communities calling Symonds monkey. But after seeing Australians'
> reaction, I don't care any longer.
Odd you don't see the hysterical vitriol emanating from the IGP and
many RSC posters; mind you since they've got what they wanted, the
hysterical vitriol has died back a tad. But only a tad.
eusebius
eusebius
snip stupidity
Actually, courtesy is still valued by just as many in Australia as in
most countries.
However, this may or may not extend to buttock slapping, with a
cricket bat or any other implement or organ. It depends where you take
your buttock slapping jaunts. In certain places it is considered most
welcome, other places not. If you come here, why not experiment with
buttock slapping in different venues? I'm sure you will experience a
rich variety of responses.
Spaceman Spiff
>>
>> Speak for yourself. I have been following Aussie news coverage
>> onhttp://news.google.ca/news?ned=au(go to sports). The vitriol
>> displayed by them (except two - Roebuck and Andrew Bolt) is childish
>> and petty. They're blind to the fact that the incident was sparked
>> off
>> a friendly gesture, of all the things. They're totally oblivious to
>> the fact that Symonds turned the norms of human interaction upside
>> down. If you're trying to be friendly to someone, you don't kick them
>> back.
>
> I don't agree. You don't pat someone on the buttocks unless you are
> mates. Not even if you are mates generally, in this country. In fact,
> patting on the buttocks is only done by teammates on the cricket field
> (or mardi gras). Yes it does appear that Symonds reaction was
> excessive. But Harbhajan exceeded what he would normally be expected
> to be able to display as a non-friend of Lee.
>
whatever- it was none of roy's business since lee didn't seem too concerned
about it.
--
stay cool,
Spaceman Spiff
get your own damn grateful dead lyrics.
http://arts.ucsc.edu/gdead/agdl/
R. Shakey
> I don't agree. You don't pat someone on the buttocks unless you are
> mates. Not even if you are mates generally, in this country. In fact,
> patting on the buttocks is only done by teammates on the cricket field
> (or mardi gras). Yes it does appear that Symonds reaction was
> excessive. But Harbhajan exceeded what he would normally be expected
> to be able to display as a non-friend of Lee.
In complete agreeance. If Harby and Lee are good mates, it's probably
fair enough. They're not though, and he was stepping over the line.
cricbuzz6
> In complete agreeance. If Harby and Lee are good mates, it's probably
> fair enough. They're not though, and he was stepping over the line.
Lee would have shown his displeasure if he thought that Harby was not
at good terms with him. Symond's didn't have to poke his nose in
between.
In the last test, Lee patted Tendulkar on his helmet when the latter
got run out. No one in their right minds would chide Lee for doing
this. It's good that the Indian team didn't have a Symonds like
character batting at the other end.
kipps
Hear hear, well said!
R. Shakey
> On Feb 4, 2:50 pm, "R. Shakey" <dnarmstr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In complete agreeance. If Harby and Lee are good mates, it's probably
> > fair enough. They're not though, and he was stepping over the line.
>
> Lee would have shown his displeasure if he thought that Harby was not
> at good terms with him.
It's still war, and I think anyone is entitled to let Harby know that
they all hate him and want to rip his head off. Nothing wrong with
that when someone you genuinely hate is patronising the entire team.
> In the last test, Lee patted Tendulkar on his helmet when the latter
> got run out. No one in their right minds would chide Lee for doing
> this.
Lee's well-liked by the Indians, Harby isn't liked by the Australians.
If Symonds patted Tendulkar on the head, there'd be effigy burning.
prakmel
Who makes these rules?
prakmel
> On Feb 5, 8:41 am, cricbuzz6 <cricbu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 4, 2:50 pm, "R. Shakey" <dnarmstr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > In complete agreeance. If Harby and Lee are good mates, it's probably
> > > fair enough. They're not though, and he was stepping over the line.
>
> > Lee would have shown his displeasure if he thought that Harby was not
> > at good terms with him.
>
> It's still war, and I think anyone is entitled to let Harby know that
> they all hate him and want to rip his head off.
Hate? Is this really how the Aussies think? Or is it you?
>Nothing wrong with
> that when someone you genuinely hate is patronising the entire team.
The entire team? Really?
>
> > In the last test, Lee patted Tendulkar on his helmet when the latter
> > got run out. No one in their right minds would chide Lee for doing
> > this.
>
> Lee's well-liked by the Indians, Harby isn't liked by the Australians.
> If Symonds patted Tendulkar on the head, there'd be effigy burning.
How do you know?
R. Shakey
Common sense.
cricbuzz6
>
> It's still war, and I think anyone is entitled to let Harby know that
> they all hate him and want to rip his head off. Nothing wrong with
> that when someone you genuinely hate is patronising the entire team.
>
First of all, its not war. And no one is trying to rip off anyone
else's head. Even bodyline edition was much milder than this.
> Lee's well-liked by the Indians, Harby isn't liked by the Australians.
Lee is well liked by Indian players...and Harby is an Indian. Both
Harby and Lee are on good terms.
Symonds' should have minded his own business.
> If Symonds patted Tendulkar on the head, there'd be effigy burning.
First of all, this is your "assumption".
Secondly, Indian players wouldn't have done any such thing...and so
Symond's act seems even more childish now.
I have no problems if the Aus fans boo bhajji for patting lee's back.
R. Shakey
> > they all hate him and want to rip his head off. Nothing wrong with
> > that when someone you genuinely hate is patronising the entire team.
> >
> First of all, its not war. And no one is trying to rip off anyone
> else's head. Even bodyline edition was much milder than this.
We can not imagine the kind of intensity that these blokes take out on
the ground with them. Having listened to blokes like Dean Jones and
Allan Border talk about the way they treated the opposition on the
field, I've got no doubt about how the game is played by the majority
of hard-nosed competitors. It's war.
> > If Symonds patted Tendulkar on the head, there'd be effigy burning.
>
> First of all, this is your "assumption".
It's a logical deduction based on previous events.
> Secondly, Indian players wouldn't have done any such thing...and so
> Symond's act seems even more childish now.
This is your assumption.
> I have no problems if the Aus fans boo bhajji for patting lee's back.
It's the racism they believe he got away with that he's being booed
for.
prakmel
Common to the Aussies I guess
R. Shakey
Would you pat me on the bum in front of everyone if you know all my
mates hate your guts?
great...@fastmail.fm
Thanks.
I hear you and I know that. I usually don't do nor expect it from
others.
Most of what I wrote was exaggeration to make a point.
My basic point still remains - that he was trying to be friends and
that the whole incident was basically created on an incident that was
not only non-hostile but also friendly.
But don't bother answering me. We have established on what we agree
and disagree.