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Smorgass Bored

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Sep 10, 2006, 5:27:03 PM9/10/06
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Anyone having a problem connecting to AZ Billiards Forums ?
They must be overloaded with people getting IPT Finals updates....
Doug

Dhakala

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Sep 10, 2006, 5:32:48 PM9/10/06
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It's not responding from Comcast in Denver, either. You're probably
right.

Jim

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Sep 10, 2006, 6:38:20 PM9/10/06
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Not responding to Earthlink in Florida either.

Jim
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Bob Johnson

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Sep 10, 2006, 6:52:11 PM9/10/06
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Why bother. InsidePool is much more informative, and has never shown open
hatred toward us at RSB.

--
Bob Johnson, Denver/Thornton, Co.
bo...@cris.com

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Tom S.( AKA ..Ratchet )

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Sep 11, 2006, 9:28:50 AM9/11/06
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Bob Johnson wrote:
> Why bother. InsidePool is much more informative, and has never shown open
> hatred toward us at RSB.
>
tap tap tap !

Jack Stein

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Sep 14, 2006, 1:08:56 PM9/14/06
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Bob Johnson wrote:

> Why bother. InsidePool is much more informative, and has never shown open
> hatred toward us at RSB.

I don't generally read either one unless someone points me there for
something particular. What do they do over there to show hatred for a
newsgroup? Not that I doubt you, just really arouses my curiosity?
Particularly since both AZ and RSB are mostly about billiards, seems
strange to hate a whole group where opinions differ on everything.

Is it something we said?:-)

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Jack
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Dhakala

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Sep 14, 2006, 1:16:20 PM9/14/06
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Jack Stein wrote:
> Bob Johnson wrote:
>
> > Why bother. InsidePool is much more informative, and has never shown open
> > hatred toward us at RSB.
>
> I don't generally read either one unless someone points me there for
> something particular. What do they do over there to show hatred for a
> newsgroup?

Same thing we do to ASP - ignore, except for occasional offhand sneers.
:-)

Dhakala

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Sep 14, 2006, 1:22:35 PM9/14/06
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Today, it's "Database Error" when I try to save a post. Somebody
disrupted the feng shui of AZB's server, causing chi to flow
inharmoniously.

Bob Johnson

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Sep 14, 2006, 7:08:22 PM9/14/06
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No Jack, it's something they said. You mean to tell me you didn't know that
by participating in RSB that you're a "bottom feeder"? That's the term
assigned to RSB participants by Mr. Howerton and/or his moderator Mr. Wilson
back in December. It all started when they kicked Faggoty Larry off the AZB
board, and he came to RSB, along with his AZB groupies, to rant.

To quote Mr. Wilson, the official moderator of AZB, on 12/23/2005:

"RSB and for that matter usenet in general, well, somewhere HAS to be the
bottom of the barrel and that is just where it's at. My job is to keep this
place from devolving into that sort of "anything goes" cess pool. Why
someone would take it personally that RSB is the bottom is beyond my
comprehension. If that's your cup of tea, so be it. I doubt it will get much
support."

and

"I truly find it amusing when the bottom feeders (meaning RSB'rs) surface.
Trust me folks, if the crap there (meaning RSB'rs again) tries to surface
here.....it will be flushed back to the sewer (once again, meaning RSB) it
belongs in."

They removed his comments later that day, but the damage had already been
done.

--
Bob Johnson, Denver/Thornton, Co.
bo...@cris.com

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Bob Johnson

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Sep 14, 2006, 8:51:28 PM9/14/06
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I forgot to mention that for a few days after that, I changed my signature
to read as below. I forgot I had changed it, and was surprised when a
business associate asked me what it meant at the bottom of one of my
business emails!

--
Bob Johnson, Denver/Thornton, Co.

Proud RSB Bottom Feeder
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Aunty Dan

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Sep 14, 2006, 9:46:28 PM9/14/06
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Just because a volunteer moderator said something disparaging does that
mean everyone on AZB thinks that way? The site itself doesn't say
anything and has no opinions. It's not like there's a big banner graphic
at the top of the page saying "AZB rules, RSB drools". (Hmm not a bad
idea, have to suggest that one to Mike)

Personally I couldn't care less. The thing I go to AZB for is the same
thing I go to RSB for, or CCB, or InsidePool - reading about Pool and
socializing with people who like Pool. If I enjoy a thread I may join if
I have anything I want to say. If I enjoy a personality I socialize with
them. I've met both from both RSB and AZB, even from CCB, and always
enjoyed myself.

It's not like we have to pay for any of this.

--
Aunty Dan (Remove "X" from "XHotmail.com" to reply directly)
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Hoisted with his own petard."
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Sep 14, 2006, 9:58:51 PM9/14/06
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I THINK MIKE SHOULD STOP BEING A CHUMP AND LETTING YOU FREE LOADERS
HAVE THIS FREE. HE SHOULD CHARGE YOU 29.99 A MONTH TO GO IN THERE,
THEN HE CAN RETIRE TO ALCAPULC O.

Bob Johnson

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Sep 14, 2006, 9:57:56 PM9/14/06
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It left me with a bad taste in my mouth. I felt the "bottom feeder" label
was not needed at all. But then, by choice, I chose not to participate at
AZB due to another incident prior to this happening. I never found AZB to
be "friendly" shall we say, at least not like RSB used to be prior to Larry
and his gang of groupies arriving. My choice.

--
Bob Johnson, Denver/Thornton, Co.
Proud RSB Bottom Feeder
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boomboomboocoor...@yahoo.com

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Sep 14, 2006, 10:57:14 PM9/14/06
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Bob Johnson wrote:
> It left me with a bad taste in my mouth. I felt the "bottom feeder" label
> was not needed at all. But then, by choice, I chose not to participate at
> AZB due to another incident prior to this happening. I never found AZB to
> be "friendly" shall we say, at least not like RSB used to be prior to Larry
> and his gang of groupies arriving. My choice.
> --
> Bob Johnson, Denver/Thornton, Co.
> Proud RSB Bottom Feeder
> bo...@cris.com
>
>
BUT LARRY IS A VERY FRIENDLY GUY, DID YOU EVER ASK HIM A QUESTION, TRY
TO INTERACT WITH HIM, OR DEFEND HIM AGAINST THE SLANDERS AND LIES OF Li
and Hu?

Go into www.poolchat.net, there are 3,000 posts of the guy being
friendly and getting along with every one. He ran all over Ga and Fla,
for 14 days, 2500 miles and got along with 99% of the people he met.
The 1% was a drunk who bumped into him when he was playing and damn
near knocked his bushka out of his hands. If you do not fook with him,
you can get along with him just fine.

Aunty Dan

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Sep 15, 2006, 12:09:12 PM9/15/06
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Bob Johnson wrote:
> It left me with a bad taste in my mouth. I felt the "bottom feeder" label
> was not needed at all. But then, by choice, I chose not to participate at
> AZB due to another incident prior to this happening. I never found AZB to
> be "friendly" shall we say, at least not like RSB used to be prior to Larry
> and his gang of groupies arriving. My choice.

You know you've made me think. How weird it is the way our brains start
sub-dividing and categorizing these virtual communities. I mean we know
that probably 90% of everyone chatting on RSB, AZB, CCB or IPM are
exactly the same people, and yet we see them as different somehow.

Ed McCune

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Sep 15, 2006, 5:28:53 PM9/15/06
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On Sep 15 2006 11:09 AM, Aunty Dan wrote:


> You know you've made me think. How weird it is the way our brains start
> sub-dividing and categorizing these virtual communities. I mean we know
> that probably 90% of everyone chatting on RSB, AZB, CCB or IPM are
> exactly the same people, and yet we see them as different somehow.

I'm not so sure that's totally true, Aunty. Judging from the profiles we
submit every so often, RSB tends to be an older crowd than most and most
are fairly successful in life. Pool is rarely the only thing going in our
lives. AZ seems from the posts, to be more hard core Pro pool followers
and players and wanna-be players. They don't much like RSB because RSBers
won't cater to them and accept their word as pool law without discussion.
I think we are more democratic here as everyone is listened to, even
Hamster, when it comes to pool discussions. Heck, I remember when Hank
didn't even know who KM was and when Duel presented him with the cue he
won (in dubious manner) he wasn't aware of who the young man was. Many
here know nothing of various pro tournaments or players unless someone
else mentions them. At least 2 regulars here didn't know Efren won the KoH
tourney last Dec when it was shown later on tv.

Personally I like that. Being impressed just because someone has spent
their life playing pool seems kind of juvenile. Many on this board have
accomplished much more in life to be impressed by than that.

It's true that many here do post elsewhere too but the the RSB tone is
still different and like Bob, I prefer it to AZ. I do read some of AZ but
I wouldn't dare post. I can't beat most of them at pool so that means my
opinion is worthless, right?

ed

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Sep 15, 2006, 5:41:20 PM9/15/06
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Absolutely, when the chi flow falls out of center, the wa goes out of
balance and it will burn up the flux capacitor in the server every time
and melt the dilithium crystals. I am sure Howie is flying in parts to
fix it now. This never happens to www.poolchat.net because we sit
around all day long hummin
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaajhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhoooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Tom S.( AKA ..Ratchet )

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Sep 15, 2006, 6:37:44 PM9/15/06
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Bob Johnson wrote:
> No Jack, it's something they said. You mean to tell me you didn't know that
> by participating in RSB that you're a "bottom feeder"? That's the term
> assigned to RSB participants by Mr. Howerton and/or his moderator Mr. Wilson
> back in December. It all started when they kicked Faggoty Larry off the AZB
> board, and he came to RSB, along with his AZB groupies, to rant.
>
> To quote Mr. Wilson, the official moderator of AZB, on 12/23/2005:
>
> "RSB and for that matter usenet in general, well, somewhere HAS to be the
> bottom of the barrel and that is just where it's at. My job is to keep this
> place from devolving into that sort of "anything goes" cess pool. Why
> someone would take it personally

That was me , I went off on a post by some deadhead who goes by
Cuetechasauras who was ripping on RSB

Tom S. -

yukiosa...@yahoo.com

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Sep 15, 2006, 6:45:18 PM9/15/06
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*************************************************************************************
Rachet, bob johnson calls FL a faggot, he has porked 2,000 beautiful
women and that makes him a faggot, that makes him a cocksman. That
shit for brains loser johnson is a simple pot and pan salesman who has
a 9 fookin IQ and that is the most complicated piece of equipment that
bozo can deal with. That is the problem with the net, you dont always
know who the bozos are, ie johnson.

RSB'ers do not take offense, take back RSB, first you must drive out
the bottom feeders Debra Li and Eric T Hu, get this scum out of here
and this place cleans up over night. Who needs these two greasy smelly
chinks any way, both are fuckin nuts.

Aunty Dan

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Sep 15, 2006, 8:42:57 PM9/15/06
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Ed McCune wrote:
> Being impressed just because someone has spent
> their life playing pool seems kind of juvenile. Many on this board have
> accomplished much more in life to be impressed by than that.

“To play a good game of billiards is the sign of a well-rounded
education, but to play too good a game of billiards is the sign of a
misspent youth.” -- Lord Chesterfield, in a letter to his son

Dan White

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Sep 15, 2006, 8:58:34 PM9/15/06
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"Aunty Dan" <aunt...@xhotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> “To play a good game of billiards is the sign of a well-rounded
> education, but to play too good a game of billiards is the sign of a
> misspent youth.” -- Lord Chesterfield, in a letter to his son
>

I hear this "misspent youth" phrase every so often. I have to think this
Lord Chesterfield reference was the origin of that. I wonder if this was
19th century?

dwhite


Jack Stein

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Sep 15, 2006, 10:46:52 PM9/15/06
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Bob Johnson wrote:
> No Jack, it's something they said. You mean to tell me you didn't know that
> by participating in RSB that you're a "bottom feeder"? That's the term
> assigned to RSB participants by Mr. Howerton and/or his moderator Mr. Wilson
> back in December. It all started when they kicked Faggoty Larry off the AZB
> board, and he came to RSB, along with his AZB groupies, to rant.

I see said the blind man...

> To quote Mr. Wilson, the official moderator of AZB, on 12/23/2005:
>
> "RSB and for that matter usenet in general, well, somewhere HAS to be the
> bottom of the barrel and that is just where it's at. My job is to keep this
> place from devolving into that sort of "anything goes" cess pool. Why
> someone would take it personally that RSB is the bottom is beyond my
> comprehension. If that's your cup of tea, so be it. I doubt it will get much
> support."

I see, he is jealous of RSB.

> and
> "I truly find it amusing when the bottom feeders (meaning RSB'rs) surface.
> Trust me folks, if the crap there (meaning RSB'rs again) tries to surface
> here.....it will be flushed back to the sewer (once again, meaning RSB) it
> belongs in."

I guess he can't handle uncensored groups. He's not alone, many people
can't handle the truth, and the truth ALWAYS comes out sooner or later
when censorship is null and void.

> They removed his comments later that day, but the damage had already been
> done.

"They" are censoring each other... neato. Sounds like PJ plonking
hisself...

--
Jack
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Bob Johnson

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Sep 15, 2006, 11:06:31 PM9/15/06
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In all honesty, when you have the ability to control your content and who
can post, I don't blame them in the least for booting Larry and his groupies
off the board. (I'm sure Larry will comment on this, but I won't know it!).
The garbage and fighting definitely get in the way of the topical
discussions. If not for the diehard nature of the RSB community, they
probably would have killed it off completely. As you know, if we couldn't
block them, it wouldn't hardly be worth trying to even lurk on RSB. AZB did
what they needed to do to clean up the problem. Unfortunately, they just
migrated here.

--
Bob Johnson, Denver/Thornton, Co.
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Bong Soon

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Bob Johnson wrote:
> In all honesty, when you have the ability to control your content and who
> can post, I don't blame them in the least for booting Larry and his groupies
> off the board. (I'm sure Larry will comment on this, but I won't know it!).
> The garbage and fighting definitely get in the way of the topical
> discussions. If not for the diehard nature of the RSB community, they
> probably would have killed it off completely. As you know, if we couldn't
> block them, it wouldn't hardly be worth trying to even lurk on RSB. AZB did
> what they needed to do to clean up the problem. Unfortunately, they just
> migrated here.
> --
> Bob Johnson, Denver/Thornton, Co.
> bo...@cris.com


Dear pot and pan saleman with da 9 fookin iq, doofus, fook az, there is
another world out side of that cess pool ass hole. Who gives a flying
fuck what those ding dongs have to say, they are all giant fuckin
nobodies who dont know shit.

Once we get by that one, lets get down to business, You are a total
nit com poop, so we dismiss your bull shit. You have it in reverse,
debra Li and Eric T Hu so totally trashed rsb trashing fl, they all
migrated to AZ. I told you this pot and pan guy is dumb.

hello Mcfly, knock knock....

Bob Johnson

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Sep 16, 2006, 12:09:07 AM9/16/06
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BTW, Larry and the gang are all posting together over at InsidePool. It
must be killing them to keep it civil and not unload on each other, but I
think JR has probably warned them. If he boots them off there, look out
RSB! What I don't understand is they seem to just want to rant at each
other, call each other names, and threaten each other. Why not do it in
emails? Are they getting their rocks off carrying out the fight in a public
forum? Do they think anyone else cares what they call each other, or do to
each other for that matter? They must get something out of the bickering in
public that they don't get out of the same fights in private.

--
Bob Johnson, Denver/Thornton, Co.
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Jack Stein

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Sep 16, 2006, 6:50:53 AM9/16/06
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Bob Johnson wrote:

> In all honesty, when you have the ability to control your content and who
> can post, I don't blame them in the least for booting Larry and his groupies
> off the board.

I was just wondering why you would denigrate AZB's pool chat room so
much. You explained it quite well, so no need to argue with yourself.
I don't go there unless someone points me there for some specific
reason. My personal feeling is RSB is wide open, just as I like it and
splinter groups don't particular interest me, not that I dislike them,
just not my cup of tea at this time. They can talk amongst themselves
all they want, and if they have something to say to the world re: pool,
RSB is where they would have to say it, IMO.

> (I'm sure Larry will comment on this, but I won't know it!).

If he says it I'll know it, if someone from Yahoo says it, I won't.

> The garbage and fighting definitely get in the way of the topical
> discussions. If not for the diehard nature of the RSB community, they
> probably would have killed it off completely.

Trolls have operated as teams trying to destroy newsgroups, usually for
the fun of it, for years. Nothing new and not a big deal. It's
annoying unless you consider all the time and effort THEY put into doing
something that no one reads and most have filtered out of their mail any
way. I find it amusing more than anything. Those dumb enough to
actually get involved with them deserve what they get. I really like
the fact that anyone can say any damned thing they want, and I don't
mind spending a few seconds filtering out the trolls or skipping the
dunderheads that say one stupid or uninteresting thing after another. I
read a ton of intelligent posts here, both from people I agree with and
people I wouldn't miss if some terrorist lopped off their head on TV. I
ONLY filter out those I figure are trolls, not real people, ergo, FL is
not filtered, but most of the garbage surrounding him is.

As you know, if we couldn't block them, it wouldn't hardly be worth
trying to even lurk on RSB.

It's a VERY small price to pay for a wide open discussion group
uncensored by anyone other than myself.

> AZB did what they needed to do to clean up the problem. Unfortunately, they just
> migrated here.

Again, it's you that has a problem with AZB, not me. I don't
participate in any other internet pool groups other than RSB. One is
more than enough for me. If their moderator, the guy in charge of
censorship, thinks everyone on RSB is a "bottom feeder" then, I reckon
I'm missing about nothing...

--
Jack
http://jbstein.com

Jack Stein

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Sep 16, 2006, 7:23:05 AM9/16/06
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Bob Johnson wrote:

> BTW, Larry and the gang are all posting together over at InsidePool.

Wow, you read all the little pool chat groups don't you? Not that there
is anything wrong with it mind you, just Wow. I look at it this way.
There is NOTHING that can't be said on RSB, so if it is pool related, it
can and should be said right here. If it isn't said here, I could care
less, it probably will have no effect on my life.

> It
> must be killing them to keep it civil and not unload on each other, but I
> think JR has probably warned them. If he boots them off there, look out
> RSB!

They have little to no effect on RSB. It is just too simple to filter
them out, skip all their messages or whatever floats your boat. Thats
the attraction to a wide open group, you are pretty much in control.
Hell, PJ even filtered his own sorry ass once...

> What I don't understand is they seem to just want to rant at each
> other, call each other names, and threaten each other.

That's the beauty of the trolls, they entertain each other, and everyone
has a right to be entertained, don't they?

> Why not do it in emails? Are they getting their rocks off carrying out the fight in a public
> forum?

You answered your own question.

> Do they think anyone else cares what they call each other, or do to
> each other for that matter? They must get something out of the bickering in
> public that they don't get out of the same fights in private.

It's a game. They try to lure in fools to respond to their silliness.
Since you apparently don't understand how trolls operate let me help you
out. First, one will post semi coherent messages designed to get some
responses. People respond, then a few more semi-sane messages, then
another of the "team" starts to argue, attempting to get more responses
from the group, pretty soon the whole crew is saying unbelievably stupid
things and I the trick is to see how many real life assholes will
actually get involved and fight about this really lame stuff. IF the
group quits responding, they start over again with a few semi-sane
messages, the game here is to see if some really stupid people will
believe they are coming around and the cycle repeats. RSB is not the
first and won't be the last newsgroup to be inflicted with this stuff,
and it is simply something you must learn to control on your own.
Bitching about it won't change a thing, arguing or just responding to
them in any way shape or form will do nothing other than earn points for
the game contestants, and you are not one of the contestants, you are a
game piece. It's why filters were invented.

---
Jack
http://jbstein.com

Don M.

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Sep 16, 2006, 10:35:59 AM9/16/06
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On 15 Sep 2006 21:15:46 -0700, "Bong Soon" <bongsoo...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

STFU STUPID ASS

Ron Shepard

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Sep 16, 2006, 12:10:54 PM9/16/06
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In article <eeftd3$4...@dispatch.concentric.net>,
"Bob Johnson" <bo...@cris.com> wrote:

> BTW, Larry and the gang are all posting together over at InsidePool.

> ...them...each other...them...them...they...each
> other...each other...each other...they...their...they...
> They...they...

Hey Bob, not to nit pick your grammar or anything, but what's up
with all of the plural pronouns? "He" or "him", depending on the
subjective or objective case, would be less confusing.

$.02 -Ron Shepard

Bob Johnson

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Sep 16, 2006, 12:52:37 PM9/16/06
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At one time, most of us posted on RSB and ASP, many times cross posting.
ASP was more open to non pool and billiard discussion, and most tried to
keep RSB on topic. ASP's still there, just not as active as it used to be.
Anymore, I follow RSB and InsidePool. I think JR has done a pretty good job
with the mag, the web site, and now the chat forum.

--
Bob Johnson, Denver/Thornton, Co.
bo...@cris.com

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